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I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair
I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a
brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away
on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA
doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a
youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as
you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you
unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes
I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back
now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so
could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue
than yes something needs to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new jaws that
came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix
this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that
jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is
not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an
issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time
to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to
jaws can do about this.is
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Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how
far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to
be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a
processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand
new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure
it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I
don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I
bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced
it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially
comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always
assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue.
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On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
Well yes.
But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and
to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I
do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this
is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know.
I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be
fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I
don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana
jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this.
But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you
hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and
stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked
videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all
kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus
thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be
fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the
PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes
something needs to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new jaws that
came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to
fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure
that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If
this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is
not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I
believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and
ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue. On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know. I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it
happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't
done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again
always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was
wrong than.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
For more
than 9 years.
Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem
how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just
wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it
was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with
a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can
be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is
doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small
laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda
strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I
have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or
shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is
kinda confused kinda issue.
On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
Well yes.
But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current
and to let you know. This has always been a problem with
jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now
if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know.
I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be
fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I
don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't
wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly
do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like
when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all
talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to
liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid.
There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this
lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now.
Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so
could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS
issue than yes something needs to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new jaws
that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is
going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a
problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than
NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it?
NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if
this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope
someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about
this.is
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If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than. On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: For more than 9 years. Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue. On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know. I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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Yeah that's real bad. I've seen it that bad but see it's been on
a PC that's from 2007. So to be expected I always thought. Also on
a laptop from 2011. So again I thought to be expected. But if your
machine isn't that old than something is dephinetly wrong. Now I
should later try NVDA on that old 2007 Enspiron 530S and see. I
have used NVDA on it before but not much. I don't like that robot
E Speak voice. But I should try and see what happens.
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On 8/14/2019 10:34 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
If I am
doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a
while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am
using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC
on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to
use windows M to go back.
Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen
it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they
haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because
I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened.
Guess I was wrong than.
On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
For more
than 9 years.
Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem
how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just
wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured
it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone
with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then
1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things
JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the
small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being
kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again
though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of
folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a
the PC is kinda confused kinda issue.
On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
Well
yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10
current and to let you know. This has always been a
problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not
be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need
to let us know.
I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To
be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most
on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I
don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't
exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of
things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube
video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as
you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if
you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that.
But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but
for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a
brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old.
But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs
to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new jaws
that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is
going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a
problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than
NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it
it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws
and if this a problem, I believe is time to address
this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws
can do about this.is
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I upgrated my PC. It has a TV/monitor for my PC. When I am not using the TV, I can change it to a flat screen. Nice side. Also my PC was updated 3 years ago.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 9:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus Yeah that's real bad. I've seen it that bad but see it's been on a PC that's from 2007. So to be expected I always thought. Also on a laptop from 2011. So again I thought to be expected. But if your machine isn't that old than something is dephinetly wrong. Now I should later try NVDA on that old 2007 Enspiron 530S and see. I have used NVDA on it before but not much. I don't like that robot E Speak voice. But I should try and see what happens. On 8/14/2019 10:34 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back. Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than. On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: For more than 9 years. Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue. On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know. I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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if by updated you mean new hardware or you completely blew
Windows away than yeah something's up with JFW than. Especially if
that HDD or SSD is new. I don't know man. Have you told FS about
this? Because again especially if this is fresh hardware this
shouldn't be. I've seen this as bad as you describe but like I
said on an old Enspiron 530 S from 2007. Which at the moment has
Windows 8 on it by the way.I had put Windows 7 on it before.
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On 8/14/2019 10:56 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I upgrated my PC. It has a TV/monitor
for my PC. When I am not using the TV, I can change it to a
flat screen. Nice side. Also my PC was updated 3 years ago.
Yeah that's real bad. I've seen it that bad but see it's been
on a PC that's from 2007. So to be expected I always thought.
Also on a laptop from 2011. So again I thought to be expected.
But if your machine isn't that old than something is
dephinetly wrong. Now I should later try NVDA on that old 2007
Enspiron 530S and see. I have used NVDA on it before but not
much. I don't like that robot E Speak voice. But I should try
and see what happens.
On 8/14/2019 10:34 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
If I am doing something and I open
a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t
tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to
go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come
back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go
back.
Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've
seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised
they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick
because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it
happened. Guess I was wrong than.
On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
For more than 9 years.
Understood. Now when you say this has always been a
problem how far back do you remmember this happening?
Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly
new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm
wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let
us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's
lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana
judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought
in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not
convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this
issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down
software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda
confused kinda issue.
On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
Well yes. But I am paying for
jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you
know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do
not understand why this can not be address. Now if
this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know.
I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS.
To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this
most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC
so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA
doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do
lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a
youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says
space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says
nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of
stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing
more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be
fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be
that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue
than yes something needs to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new
jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When
jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was
not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more
resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a
jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an
issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe
is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask
questions to jaws can do about this.is
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HI Holger,
It sounds like you have something going on in
the background that's causing the focus loss issue. I don't have this
problem with any version of Jaws I have installed on my Windows 7 or 10
computers.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go
dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason
is that somebody screwed up.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus
If I am doing something and I
open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost
focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC
on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go
back.
Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but
here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never
meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when
it happened. Guess I was wrong than.
On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
For more than 9 years.
Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do
you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't
exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If
someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be
dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I
don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016
is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again
though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting
down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda
issue.
On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
Well yes. But I am paying
for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always
been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address.
Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us
know.
I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm
trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand
spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true
NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things.
like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and
stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says
nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But
yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now.
Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that
the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs
to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost
focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA
this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than
NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and
this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is
time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can
do about this.is
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New hardware even a new wireless keyboard.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus if by updated you mean new hardware or you completely blew Windows away than yeah something's up with JFW than. Especially if that HDD or SSD is new. I don't know man. Have you told FS about this? Because again especially if this is fresh hardware this shouldn't be. I've seen this as bad as you describe but like I said on an old Enspiron 530 S from 2007. Which at the moment has Windows 8 on it by the way.I had put Windows 7 on it before. On 8/14/2019 10:56 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I upgrated my PC. It has a TV/monitor for my PC. When I am not using the TV, I can change it to a flat screen. Nice side. Also my PC was updated 3 years ago. Yeah that's real bad. I've seen it that bad but see it's been on a PC that's from 2007. So to be expected I always thought. Also on a laptop from 2011. So again I thought to be expected. But if your machine isn't that old than something is dephinetly wrong. Now I should later try NVDA on that old 2007 Enspiron 530S and see. I have used NVDA on it before but not much. I don't like that robot E Speak voice. But I should try and see what happens. On 8/14/2019 10:34 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back. Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than. On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: For more than 9 years. Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue. On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know. I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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This has always been a problem with windows seven and now 10.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus It sounds like you have something going on in the background that's causing the focus loss issue. I don't have this problem with any version of Jaws I have installed on my Windows 7 or 10 computers.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back. Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than. On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: For more than 9 years. Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue. On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know. I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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Alright yeah this is real serious than. I mean this than is
practicaly a new PC. I'd call FX.
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On 8/14/2019 12:10 PM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
This has
always been a problem with windows seven and now 10.
It sounds like you
have something going on in the background that's causing
the focus loss issue. I don't have this problem with any
version of Jaws I have installed on my Windows 7 or 10
computers.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually,
the reason is that somebody screwed up.
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM
Subject:
Re: [jaws-users] lost focus
If I am
doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a
while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am
using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC
on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to
use windows M to go back.
Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen
it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they
haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because
I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened.
Guess I was wrong than.
On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
For more
than 9 years.
Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem
how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just
wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured
it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone
with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then
1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things
JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the
small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being
kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again
though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of
folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a
the PC is kinda confused kinda issue.
On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
Well
yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10
current and to let you know. This has always been a
problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not
be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need
to let us know.
I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To
be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most
on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I
don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't
exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of
things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube
video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as
you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if
you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that.
But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but
for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a
brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old.
But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs
to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new jaws
that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is
going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a
problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than
NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it
it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws
and if this a problem, I believe is time to address
this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws
can do about this.is
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I have this issue with the latest win 10 pro, and latest jaws. And it has been doing this for several versions of jaws and windows
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: August 14, 2019 9:10
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus This has always been a problem with windows seven and now 10. From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus It sounds like you have something going on in the background that's causing the focus loss issue. I don't have this problem with any version of Jaws I have installed on my Windows 7 or 10 computers.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back. Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than. On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: For more than 9 years. Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue. On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know. I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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I agree that FS should devote more resource to fixing long-standing issues with points where JFW fumbles.
That being said, there is such a wide variety of ways pc configurations may differ, there is probably not just one fix to be made. Maybe it’s as bad analogy, but it’s a bit like
in dividualized medicine.
Plus, I understand that Microsoft began in Windows 10 to use a different method for writing information to the screen. I don’t know how tight the communication is between MS &
FS, but I’d would think FS would have made the needed updates already!
Which is all academic if you’re dealing with a pc that isn’t performing as well as it did in the past, despite paying for new HW and/or SW.
Just my 2 cents.
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Dale E. Heltzer
deheltzer@...
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] lost focus
I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem.
I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions
to jaws can do about this.is
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True this too. As for the new hard ware thing interesting you
meantion this because I'd thought that this would practically
would make the PC new again. Maybe not then I guess. I also wander
how the talks between FS and Google are cause of the talkyness of
JAWS and lack of saying important things. Interesting if you do
use IE on youtube all is pretty much business as usual. Which
makes me ask is there perhaps code in JAWS that is still 90s code
than? Could it perhaps be time for a total make over for JAWS?
Maybe this is for a new thread but JAWS does seem to still for my
youtube experience at least does seem to favor IE. So maybe theere
is still favoritism for older versions of Windows. I don't know. I
never thought to ask Eric. This year on top of my not thinking of
these things this way I couldn't make it to NFB convention.
On 8/14/2019 3:34 PM, Dale Heltzer
wrote:
I agree that FS should devote
more resource to fixing long-standing issues with points
where JFW fumbles.
That being said, there is such a
wide variety of ways pc configurations may differ, there
is probably not just one fix to be made. Maybe it’s as bad
analogy, but it’s a bit like in dividualized medicine.
Plus, I understand that Microsoft
began in Windows 10 to use a different method for writing
information to the screen. I don’t know how tight the
communication is between MS & FS, but I’d would think
FS would have made the needed updates already!
Which is all academic if you’re
dealing with a pc that isn’t performing as well as it did
in the past, despite paying for new HW and/or SW.
Just my 2 cents.
I am noticing
that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more
regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA
this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more
resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws
issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I
pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to
address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to
jaws can do about this.is
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A quick google search on which is better for viewing youtube, IE or chrome, suggests chrome is better.
Youtube has been a subsidiary company of Google for over a decade. IE will still work, but why not seek to minimize irritants? Try Chrome. Just
a thought, and only a thought.
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Dale E. Heltzer
deheltzer@...
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
<jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus
True this too. As for the new hard ware thing interesting you meantion this because I'd thought that this would practically would make the PC new again. Maybe
not then I guess. I also wander how the talks between FS and Google are cause of the talkyness of JAWS and lack of saying important things. Interesting if you do use IE on youtube all is pretty much business as usual. Which makes me ask is there perhaps code
in JAWS that is still 90s code than? Could it perhaps be time for a total make over for JAWS? Maybe this is for a new thread but JAWS does seem to still for my youtube experience at least does seem to favor IE. So maybe theere is still favoritism for older
versions of Windows. I don't know. I never thought to ask Eric. This year on top of my not thinking of these things this way I couldn't make it to NFB convention.
On 8/14/2019 3:34 PM, Dale Heltzer wrote:
I agree that FS should devote more resource to fixing long-standing issues with points where JFW fumbles.
That being said, there is such a wide variety of ways pc configurations may differ, there is probably not just one fix to be made. Maybe
it’s as bad analogy, but it’s a bit like in dividualized medicine.
Plus, I understand that Microsoft began in Windows 10 to use a different method for writing information to the screen. I don’t know how
tight the communication is between MS & FS, but I’d would think FS would have made the needed updates already!
Which is all academic if you’re dealing with a pc that isn’t performing as well as it did in the past, despite paying for new HW and/or
SW.
Just my 2 cents.
I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was
not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and
ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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I think I have had the “lost focus” issue ever since coming from Window-eyes to Jaws last year. Without exception, when I open Outlook every single time I am told “lost focus” and have to alt tab to regain focus. It isn’t a disaster, but it is irritating. Alison
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: 14 August 2019 17:16
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus Alright yeah this is real serious than. I mean this than is practicaly a new PC. I'd call FX. On 8/14/2019 12:10 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote: This has always been a problem with windows seven and now 10. It sounds like you have something going on in the background that's causing the focus loss issue. I don't have this problem with any version of Jaws I have installed on my Windows 7 or 10 computers.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back. Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than. On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: For more than 9 years. Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue. On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know. I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done. On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote: I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is
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It does not happen here hardly ever. It might possibly
be something else that is the cause.
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From: CJ
&AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus
I think I have had the
“lost focus” issue ever since coming from Window-eyes to Jaws last year. Without
exception, when I open Outlook every single time I am told “lost focus” and have
to alt tab to regain focus. It isn’t a disaster, but it is
irritating.
Alison
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
<jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 14 August 2019 17:16
To:
jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost
focus
Alright yeah this is real serious than. I mean this than is practicaly a new
PC. I'd call FX.
On 8/14/2019 12:10 PM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
This has always been a
problem with windows seven and now 10.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io On Behalf Of Mike
B
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:58 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost
focus
It sounds
like you have something going on in the background that's causing the focus
loss issue. I don't have this problem with any version of Jaws I have
installed on my Windows 7 or 10 computers.
Take care.
Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that
everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed
up.
-----
Original Message -----
To:
jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent:
Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM
Subject:
Re: [jaws-users] lost focus
If I am doing something and
I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost
focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my
PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to
go back.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
<jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:39 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost
focus
Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but
here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never
meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused
when it happened. Guess I was wrong than.
On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
For more than 9 years.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:24 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost
focus
Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back
do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs
aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm
wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because
then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing
but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I
bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is
truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of
folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda
confused kinda issue.
On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
Well yes. But I am
paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This
has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not
be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us
know.
From:
jaws-users-list@groups.io mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io
On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14,
2019 7:50 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost
focus
I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm
trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand
spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's
true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of
things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all
talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos
or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like
that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a
while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC
so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than
yes something needs to be done.
On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo
wrote:
I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out
lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used
NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources
than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA
free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I
believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions
to jaws can do about this.is
David
Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife
would have preferred.
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