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[External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

Cook, Steve
 

I am not able to install NVDA on my work computer due to it is open source. 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

hi, forgot to mention,

if you use NVDA, and access the input help, inser+#1, all the keys you mentioned are announce, even, left alt right alt, left windows, left and right ctrl.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Well, if you've used the keylearn feature in jaws, insert+#1,

you will have discovered, the only two keys that will give some information when they're pressed are, the tab key, and the capslock key.

the, alt, ctrl, and windows keys no info,

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Hi All,

 

When turning keyboard help on.  Is their a way to have JAWS announce the below keys?  I perform keyboard assessments with people and during my assessment I would like to make sure they are pressing the correct key.  Using JAWS 2019 and Windows 10. 

 

Tab

Caps lock

Alt key

Spacebar

Control

Windows key

david
 

you could always use narrator.

 

 

Explore your keyboard

Input learning tells you what keys you're pressing on your keyboard, and the Narrator command associated with them. Turn on input learning by pressing

Narrator + 1 (the number 1 key). Turn it off by pressing Narrator + 1 twice.May 21, 2019

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

I am not able to install NVDA on my work computer due to it is open source. 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

hi, forgot to mention,

if you use NVDA, and access the input help, inser+#1, all the keys you mentioned are announce, even, left alt right alt, left windows, left and right ctrl.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Well, if you've used the keylearn feature in jaws, insert+#1,

you will have discovered, the only two keys that will give some information when they're pressed are, the tab key, and the capslock key.

the, alt, ctrl, and windows keys no info,

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Hi All,

 

When turning keyboard help on.  Is their a way to have JAWS announce the below keys?  I perform keyboard assessments with people and during my assessment I would like to make sure they are pressing the correct key.  Using JAWS 2019 and Windows 10. 

 

Tab

Caps lock

Alt key

Spacebar

Control

Windows key

Glenn / Lenny
 

Can you run the portable version on a thumb drive?
 

Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

I am not able to install NVDA on my work computer due to it is open source. 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

hi, forgot to mention,

if you use NVDA, and access the input help, inser+#1, all the keys you mentioned are announce, even, left alt right alt, left windows, left and right ctrl.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Well, if you've used the keylearn feature in jaws, insert+#1,

you will have discovered, the only two keys that will give some information when they're pressed are, the tab key, and the capslock key.

the, alt, ctrl, and windows keys no info,

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Hi All,

 

When turning keyboard help on.  Is their a way to have JAWS announce the below keys?  I perform keyboard assessments with people and during my assessment I would like to make sure they are pressing the correct key.  Using JAWS 2019 and Windows 10. 

 

Tab

Caps lock

Alt key

Spacebar

Control

Windows key

Robin
 

Excuse Me, Which "Key" on the Querty KeyBoard is Microsoft's Narrator "Key"?

At 06:37 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:
you could always use narrator.
 
 
Explore your keyboard
Input learning tells you what keys you're pressing on your keyboard, and the Narrator command associated with them. Turn on input learning by pressing
Narrator + 1 (the number 1 key). Turn it off by pressing Narrator + 1 twice.May 21, 2019
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
I am not able to install NVDA on my work computer due to it is open source. 
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
hi, forgot to mention,
if you use NVDA, and access the input help, inser+#1, all the keys you mentioned are announce, even, left alt right alt, left windows, left and right ctrl.
 
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Well, if you've used the keylearn feature in jaws, insert+#1,
you will have discovered, the only two keys that will give some information when they're pressed are, the tab key, and the capslock key.
the, alt, ctrl, and windows keys no info,
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Hi All,
 
When turning keyboard help on.  Is their a way to have JAWS announce the below keys?  I perform keyboard assessments with people and during my assessment I would like to make sure they are pressing the correct key.  Using JAWS 2019 and Windows 10. 
 
Tab
Caps lock
Alt key
Spacebar
Control
Windows key

Richard Turner
 

Insert key is the Narrator key, NVDA key and the Jaws key.
They all should just call it the insert key instead of pretending it is their key.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Robin <robin-melvin@...> wrote:

 Excuse Me, Which "Key" on the Querty KeyBoard is Microsoft's Narrator "Key"?
At 06:37 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:
you could always use narrator.
 
 
Explore your keyboard
Input learning tells you what keys you're pressing on your keyboard, and the Narrator command associated with them. Turn on input learning by pressing
Narrator + 1 (the number 1 key). Turn it off by pressing Narrator + 1 twice.May 21, 2019
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
I am not able to install NVDA on my work computer due to it is open source. 
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
hi, forgot to mention,
if you use NVDA, and access the input help, inser+#1, all the keys you mentioned are announce, even, left alt right alt, left windows, left and right ctrl.
 
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Well, if you've used the keylearn feature in jaws, insert+#1,
you will have discovered, the only two keys that will give some information when they're pressed are, the tab key, and the capslock key.
the, alt, ctrl, and windows keys no info,
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Hi All,
 
When turning keyboard help on.  Is their a way to have JAWS announce the below keys?  I perform keyboard assessments with people and during my assessment I would like to make sure they are pressing the correct key.  Using JAWS 2019 and Windows 10. 
 
Tab
Caps lock
Alt key
Spacebar
Control
Windows key

JM Casey
 

I’d agree with you, except the “whatever” key is not always the insert key, depending on the layout you choose. Some prefer the capslock key, and I think it is even possible to map it to something else if you want to. Hence, whatever key you have assigned is the “screen-reader” key, and using that terminology avoids the confusion of discussing what would be the wrong key for some users.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: August 1, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Insert key is the Narrator key, NVDA key and the Jaws key.

They all should just call it the insert key instead of pretending it is their key.

 

Richard

 

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 

(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)

 



On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Robin <robin-melvin@...> wrote:

 Excuse Me, Which "Key" on the Querty KeyBoard is Microsoft's Narrator "Key"?
At 06:37 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:

you could always use narrator.
 
 
Explore your keyboard
Input learning tells you what keys you're pressing on your keyboard, and the Narrator command associated with them. Turn on input learning by pressing
Narrator + 1 (the number 1 key). Turn it off by pressing Narrator + 1 twice.May 21, 2019
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
I am not able to install NVDA on my work computer due to it is open source. 
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
hi, forgot to mention,
if you use NVDA, and access the input help, inser+#1, all the keys you mentioned are announce, even, left alt right alt, left windows, left and right ctrl.
 
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Well, if you've used the keylearn feature in jaws, insert+#1,
you will have discovered, the only two keys that will give some information when they're pressed are, the tab key, and the capslock key.
the, alt, ctrl, and windows keys no info,
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Hi All,
 
When turning keyboard help on.  Is their a way to have JAWS announce the below keys?  I perform keyboard assessments with people and during my assessment I would like to make sure they are pressing the correct key.  Using JAWS 2019 and Windows 10. 
 
Tab
Caps lock
Alt key
Spacebar
Control
Windows key

Richard Turner
 

For what it is worth, if they changed it, they would know which one it is, right?
So I was addressing the generic question about the default.
Now if someone changed it and forgot what they did, that is another story.
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

On Aug 1, 2019, at 10:32 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:



I’d agree with you, except the “whatever” key is not always the insert key, depending on the layout you choose. Some prefer the capslock key, and I think it is even possible to map it to something else if you want to. Hence, whatever key you have assigned is the “screen-reader” key, and using that terminology avoids the confusion of discussing what would be the wrong key for some users.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: August 1, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help

 

Insert key is the Narrator key, NVDA key and the Jaws key.

They all should just call it the insert key instead of pretending it is their key.

 

Richard

 

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 

(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)

 



On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Robin <robin-melvin@...> wrote:

 Excuse Me, Which "Key" on the Querty KeyBoard is Microsoft's Narrator "Key"?
At 06:37 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:

you could always use narrator.
 
 
Explore your keyboard
Input learning tells you what keys you're pressing on your keyboard, and the Narrator command associated with them. Turn on input learning by pressing
Narrator + 1 (the number 1 key). Turn it off by pressing Narrator + 1 twice.May 21, 2019
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
I am not able to install NVDA on my work computer due to it is open source. 
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
hi, forgot to mention,
if you use NVDA, and access the input help, inser+#1, all the keys you mentioned are announce, even, left alt right alt, left windows, left and right ctrl.
 
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Well, if you've used the keylearn feature in jaws, insert+#1,
you will have discovered, the only two keys that will give some information when they're pressed are, the tab key, and the capslock key.
the, alt, ctrl, and windows keys no info,
 
       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.
 
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io < jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Keyboard Help
 
Hi All,
 
When turning keyboard help on.  Is their a way to have JAWS announce the below keys?  I perform keyboard assessments with people and during my assessment I would like to make sure they are pressing the correct key.  Using JAWS 2019 and Windows 10. 
 
Tab
Caps lock
Alt key
Spacebar
Control
Windows key