Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.

Hi Mike

Same thing happen. When I down arrow, JAWS says:

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS fails to say "user" which is the first item.



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.

On 29 May 2019, at 7:31 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Is your window maximized?  Press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize or, press, Alt + spacebar, to open the system menu then press the letter, X, to maximize.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

Same thing happen. When I down arrow, JAWS says:

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS fails to say "user" which is the first item.

On 29/5/2019 7:08 AM, Mike B wrote:



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.

I try everything i know:

I try everything i know:

On 29 May 2019, at 7:56 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

I just tried minimizing and i could still read everything just fine as well.  This is really weird!  So, when you down arrow does Jaws read any of the 25 folders or just not the Users folder?  Try pressing the, F6 key to see if the behavior changes.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

I try everything i know:

1.  Maximize the window

2. Restart JAWS

3. Restart computer

4. Using NVDA which can read the items. 

Any other ideas? Thanks

John 14:6

On 29 May 2019, at 7:31 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Is your window maximized?  Press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize or, press, Alt + spacebar, to open the system menu then press the letter, X, to maximize.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

Same thing happen. When I down arrow, JAWS says:

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS fails to say "user" which is the first item.

On 29/5/2019 7:08 AM, Mike B wrote:



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.



Hi again Sim Ka,

 

Let's see if it's a Jaws setting.  Try the following:

 

Hold down the, Insert key, then press the, spacebar, to activate the layered keystroke feature then press the letter, Z.  This will temporarily bypass your settings and put Jaws into it's factory default settings mode.  

 

If Jaws reads the Settings Center and default all applications correctly while in the factory default settings then it's one of your settings that's causing the weird behavior and now the trick is finding which setting.

This keystroke sequence is a toggle so, press the key combination to go back to your personal settings.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

I try everything i know:

1.  Maximize the window

2. Restart JAWS

3. Restart computer

4. Using NVDA which can read the items. 

Any other ideas? Thanks

John 14:6

On 29 May 2019, at 7:31 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Is your window maximized?  Press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize or, press, Alt + spacebar, to open the system menu then press the letter, X, to maximize.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

Same thing happen. When I down arrow, JAWS says:

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS fails to say "user" which is the first item.

On 29/5/2019 7:08 AM, Mike B wrote:



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.



Hi again Sim Ka,

 

Let's see if it's a Jaws setting.  Try the following:

 

Hold down the, Insert key, then press the, spacebar, to activate the layered keystroke feature then press the letter, Z.  This will temporarily bypass your settings and put Jaws into it's factory default settings mode.  

 

If Jaws reads the Settings Center and default all applications correctly while in the factory default settings then it's one of your settings that's causing the weird behavior and now the trick is finding which setting.

This keystroke sequence is a toggle so, press the key combination to go back to your personal settings.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

I try everything i know:

1.  Maximize the window

2. Restart JAWS

3. Restart computer

4. Using NVDA which can read the items. 

Any other ideas? Thanks

John 14:6

On 29 May 2019, at 7:31 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Is your window maximized?  Press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize or, press, Alt + spacebar, to open the system menu then press the letter, X, to maximize.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

Same thing happen. When I down arrow, JAWS says:

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS fails to say "user" which is the first item.

On 29/5/2019 7:08 AM, Mike B wrote:



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.

Hi Mike

Thank you for all your suggestions. I finally find out what is the problem. I have accidentally set my screen echo to "highlighted" instead of "all". JAWS key + S is the hotkey to switch screen echo. Hope this helps someone else. Thanks.



Hi Sim Kah,

 

Okay then it's a J2019 issue.  You can try repairing J2019, reinstalling it or, if you're located somewhere that allows you to call FS tech support call them to see what they say to do.  Maybe they can tandem with your computer and find the reason for this type of behavior.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:45 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

I tried what you suggested, but no go. The problem persist.

I try JAWS 2018 and encounter no such problem.

Any more ideas? Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 8:26 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi again Sim Ka,

 

Let's see if it's a Jaws setting.  Try the following:

 

Hold down the, Insert key, then press the, spacebar, to activate the layered keystroke feature then press the letter, Z.  This will temporarily bypass your settings and put Jaws into it's factory default settings mode.  

 

If Jaws reads the Settings Center and default all applications correctly while in the factory default settings then it's one of your settings that's causing the weird behavior and now the trick is finding which setting.

This keystroke sequence is a toggle so, press the key combination to go back to your personal settings.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

I try everything i know:

1.  Maximize the window

2. Restart JAWS

3. Restart computer

4. Using NVDA which can read the items. 

Any other ideas? Thanks

John 14:6

On 29 May 2019, at 7:31 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Is your window maximized?  Press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize or, press, Alt + spacebar, to open the system menu then press the letter, X, to maximize.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

Same thing happen. When I down arrow, JAWS says:

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS fails to say "user" which is the first item.

On 29/5/2019 7:08 AM, Mike B wrote:



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.

-- 
John 14:6



Hi Sim Kah,

 

Good deal, glad you got it figured out.  A quick note, with both my Windows 7 & 10 desktop computers running J2019 all the folders in the Settings Center read the same no matter which screen echo is selected.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 12:25 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

Thank you for all your suggestions. I finally find out what is the problem. I have accidentally set my screen echo to "highlighted" instead of "all". JAWS key + S is the hotkey to switch screen echo. Hope this helps someone else. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 11:57 PM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah,

 

Okay then it's a J2019 issue.  You can try repairing J2019, reinstalling it or, if you're located somewhere that allows you to call FS tech support call them to see what they say to do.  Maybe they can tandem with your computer and find the reason for this type of behavior.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:45 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

I tried what you suggested, but no go. The problem persist.

I try JAWS 2018 and encounter no such problem.

Any more ideas? Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 8:26 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi again Sim Ka,

 

Let's see if it's a Jaws setting.  Try the following:

 

Hold down the, Insert key, then press the, spacebar, to activate the layered keystroke feature then press the letter, Z.  This will temporarily bypass your settings and put Jaws into it's factory default settings mode.  

 

If Jaws reads the Settings Center and default all applications correctly while in the factory default settings then it's one of your settings that's causing the weird behavior and now the trick is finding which setting.

This keystroke sequence is a toggle so, press the key combination to go back to your personal settings.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

I try everything i know:

1.  Maximize the window

2. Restart JAWS

3. Restart computer

4. Using NVDA which can read the items. 

Any other ideas? Thanks

John 14:6

On 29 May 2019, at 7:31 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Is your window maximized?  Press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize or, press, Alt + spacebar, to open the system menu then press the letter, X, to maximize.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi Mike

Same thing happen. When I down arrow, JAWS says:

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS fails to say "user" which is the first item.

On 29/5/2019 7:08 AM, Mike B wrote:



Don't press the tab key, just down arrow after you open the Settings Centor or Settings Center default all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Thank you for responding.

I tried what you suggested, but no help.

When I go to settings center, and after presseing control shift D, tab once, JAWS only says

Tree view
1 of 25
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.

JAWS does not say "User" which is the first item.

When I arrow down, JAWS is silent.

Please help. Thanks.

On 29/5/2019 1:16 AM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Sim Kah Young,

 

Try the following:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard and then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the default all applications.

2. Down arrow to, Speech Verboscity, and press right arrow to open then, down arrow 1 time and notice which level of verboscity you're using.

3. Down arrow to, Configure verboscity levels, right arrow to open and down arrow to your level of verboscity... and press the spacebar to open.  Note:  Do not press enter on your level of verboscity, only press the spacebar because pressing enter will close the Settings Center.

4. I use the Beginner verboscity so if you use the same level make sure everything is checked except for, Control Description.

5. If you make any changes tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

If this is not what you need or doesn't fix the problem please write back and give more descriptive details of the problem you're having.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sim Kah Yong

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:45 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS is silent when moving up and down the item in JAWS settings center

Hi all,

With the latest version of JAWS, I encounter the above problem. However,
JAWS will only read when there is no other item to open with right
arrow. Does anyone encounter this and is there a solution? Thanks.

I am using windows 8.1 with the latest JAWS version.

-- 
John 14:6