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Re: Jaws and Stascom

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

Only in if your audio gets muted or turned down, you have built-in
hotkeys to get the volume back.
Also, it maximizes all windows, which often makes Jaws work better.

I love Stascom's conveniences, but I looked forward to using hotkeys to insert accents and other special characters and can find none. Neither the hotkey reference nor any other program documentation actually list these hotkeys.

How to get to options in chrome

Loy
 

How can I get to the   options, the vertical 3 dots in upper right corner.

Re: How to get to options in chrome

Glenn / Lenny
 

I don't know why alt + F works for me, but I do that and press S for settings.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:41 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] How to get to options in chrome

How can I get to the   options, the vertical 3 dots in upper right corner.

Re: Google Chrome 74 is now available

Dave...
 

Yep. Checked, and it's already updated.

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy" <wq6r@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 18:36
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome 74 is now available


When you launch Google Chrome, it should update to the latest version
automatically.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gassman" <johngassman@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Google Chrome 74 is now available


Hi,
Here's Eric's message about the Chrome update.

All,

In the March update of JAWS, there were changes made to prepare for the
release of Chrome build 74 and higher. If you have Chrome installed, and
go to the about box, you should get that update installed now. Here is
what was posted in the release notes and I think a great reason to move to
Chrome if you have not already.
Improvements With Selecting and Copying Content in Chrome
After working closely with developers at Google, we are pleased to
announce that starting with Chrome version 74.0.3717, an update scheduled
for release by April 2019, selecting and copying text using the keyboard
will now include the HTML markup as we have done in Internet Explorer for
years. The functionality is included for all users of JAWS and Fusion
2019, providing the ability to copy live links, lists of items, and even
tables from the Chrome browser and pasting them into Email messages or
Documents without losing the formatting.
Regards,
Eric

*** The next JAWS monthly update should be out by the end of April.
John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification




Jaws Message, Use Jaws Key Plus Alt R to read Descriptive text

Jim Fettgather
 

Hello to the list.
Often, when filling out some forms, Jaws will utter this message, and using the hotkey suggested never seems to offer any descriptive text of any kind.
I would really like to find a way to suppress this message, as it is highly irritating.
I have set web/html verbosity to low, but the message still persists, especially when filling out forms.
So, any hints as to how to get rid of this annoying verbeage would be great.
Thanks.
 
 

Re: jaws cursor

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Adrian-all,

And how about with laptop keybord which I mostly use?

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi, Takis. The PC key is the numpad button for “plus” when the numlock is turned off. Another way of explaining it is that it’s the long key above the long enter key on the far right of the numpad.

I just checked JAWS’ keyboard help. The key doesn’t have a well-defined name.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to?

                                                            Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Thanks Mike, but how about when using a laptop keyboard?

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Takis,

 

If you have a Numpad the right side of the Numpad has 3 keys, and from top to bottom the keys are  layed out this way:

Right side top:  Numpad Minus, activates the Jaws cursor.

 

Right side middle:  Numpad Plus, activates the PC cursor.

 

Right side bottom:  Enter key.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:30 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to?

                                                            Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: How to get to options in chrome

chris judge
 

It’s called settings. Press altF, then arrow up a few times. Press enter on settings. If you are using jaws you will automatically drop in to forms mode. If you get out of forms mode with the escape key you can use the h key to move through the different headings.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: April 24, 2019 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to get to options in chrome

 

How can I get to the   options, the vertical 3 dots in upper right corner.

Re: How to get to options in chrome

chris judge
 

Works for me too, cool, didn’t even think to try that, thanks for the tip.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: April 24, 2019 11:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get to options in chrome

 

I don't know why alt + F works for me, but I do that and press S for settings.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:41 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] How to get to options in chrome

 

How can I get to the   options, the vertical 3 dots in upper right corner.

Restoration

cheez
 

Where do I go to restore my system back to a previous day whent things were working fine?
Running latest JAWS with Win 10.  Thanks.
Vince

Re: Restoration

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Howdy Mild Cheddah,
 
See if the steps below help:
From: Jim
Good afternoon Jaws users list.
How to do a System Restore in W-10 with Jaws.

1. Press the Windows key, to bring up the search edit box.
2. Type System, press Enter on, System control panel.
3. Tab several times to, System Protection, press Enter.
4. You will be put in, the System properties multi page dialog, On The first page of this dialog called, System protection tab
5. Tab one time to, System restore..., press Enter.
6. Wait a few seconds for the page to open, Jaws speaks a lot of information to you, you are on the Next button.
7. Press Enter on the Next button.
8. You are in a list of the dates of different Restore points, down arrow and highlight or select the date you wish to Restore your computer to.
9. Now Tab to the Next button, press Enter.
10. Now you will hear, confirm your Restore point, followed by the date you highlighted on the previous page.
11. Tab to the Finish button, Press Enter.
12. You will hear a warning dialog saying, when System restore is started, it cannot be interrupted, press the spacebar or Enter to continue with System restore, or something like that.
13. press the appropriate control, either the Spacebar or the Enter key.
14. Now in about 25 to 50 minutes, your computer will boot up to your Log-in screen.
15. Type in your password or your pin, you are now done and Restored to the date you chose in the System restore list.
Jim
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: cheez
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 3:13 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Restoration

Where do I go to restore my system back to a previous day whent things were working fine?
Running latest JAWS with Win 10.  Thanks.
Vince

Re: jaws cursor

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Howdy Takis,
 
See if this helps:
Laptop Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
Description Command
PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON (press twice quickly if the Touch Cursor is currently active)
JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+P
Invisible Cursor CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly
Touch Cursor SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON
Route Touch Cursor to Focus Location CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET
Restrict JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+R
Left Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+8
Right Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+9
Left Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8
Right Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9
Drag and Drop CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8
Say Active Cursor ALT+DELETE
Mouse Down ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Mouse Left ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW
Mouse Right ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
Mouse Up ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW
 
Additional Notes on Laptop Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
Route Touch Cursor to Focus Location (CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE)
This command moves the Touch Cursor to the location of the object that currently has focus. It is only available if the Touch Cursor is the currently active cursor.
 
Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor (CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE)
This keystroke moves the PC Cursor to the location of the JAWS Cursor. This keystroke has no effect if the JAWS Cursor is in a part of the application that will not support the PC Cursor.
 
Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor (CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET)
This keystroke moves the JAWS Cursor to the location of the PC Cursor. If the Invisible Cursor is active when this keystroke is used, the Invisible Cursor is moved to the location of the PC Cursor.
 
Left Mouse Button (CAPS LOCK+8)
This keystroke simulates a single left mouse button click. Press the keystroke twice quickly to simulate a left mouse button double click.
 
Right Mouse Button (CAPS LOCK+9)
This keystroke simulates a single right mouse button click. Press the keystroke twice quickly to simulate a right mouse button double click.
 
Left Mouse Button Lock (CTRL+8)
This keystroke simulates pressing down the left mouse button and holding it. Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the ARROW keys. JAWS will not speak until CTRL+8 is pressed again to unlock the left mouse button. This keystroke can be used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
 
Right Mouse Button Lock (CTRL+9)
This keystroke simulates pressing down the right mouse button and holding it. Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the ARROW keys. JAWS will not speak until CTRL+9 is pressed again to unlock the right mouse button. This keystroke can be used to drag items from one location and drop them in another. When the keystroke is pressed a second time to unlock the right mouse button, a menu may appear with options such as Copy Here, Move Here, and Create Shortcut Here.
 
Drag and Drop (CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8)
This keystroke is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another. Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8 . You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS keeps speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the item, press CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8 again, and the item is moved to the position of the active cursor.
 
Note: The original position of what you are dragging, and the location to which you are moving it must both be visible on the screen when you press CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8 the second time or the drag and drop will not work.
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

Thanks Mike, but how about when using a laptop keyboard?

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Takis,

 

If you have a Numpad the right side of the Numpad has 3 keys, and from top to bottom the keys are  layed out this way:

Right side top:  Numpad Minus, activates the Jaws cursor.

 

Right side middle:  Numpad Plus, activates the PC cursor.

 

Right side bottom:  Enter key.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:30 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to?

                                                            Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Many thanks Mike, yes, the explanations are very full. I think I find the use of various cursors, especially the touch cursor, complicated for two reasons. First, because I am primarily a brailist, and try to take advantage of keys on my Handytec Active Braille, secondly, because my work and use is very much document or application orientated, with little need to know what sort of pictures, frames, layouts etc, most WebPages have. This doesn’t mean I despise the importance of such info, quite the contrary. But, and I hope others will agree, those of us working extensively with documents and texts, find it more difficult, or perhaps, somewhat irrelevant to get to the descriptive details of windows or pages, provided we can read what we want.

                                                            Anyway, thanks a lot for this info,

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Howdy Takis,

 

See if this helps:

Laptop Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
Description Command
PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON (press twice quickly if the Touch Cursor is currently active)
JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+P
Invisible Cursor CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly
Touch Cursor SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON
Route Touch Cursor to Focus Location CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET
Restrict JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+R
Left Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+8
Right Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+9
Left Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8
Right Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9
Drag and Drop CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8
Say Active Cursor ALT+DELETE
Mouse Down ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Mouse Left ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW
Mouse Right ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
Mouse Up ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW

 

Additional Notes on Laptop Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
Route Touch Cursor to Focus Location (CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE)
This command moves the Touch Cursor to the location of the object that currently has focus. It is only available if the Touch Cursor is the currently active cursor.

 

Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor (CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE)
This keystroke moves the PC Cursor to the location of the JAWS Cursor. This keystroke has no effect if the JAWS Cursor is in a part of the application that will not support the PC Cursor.

 

Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor (CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET)
This keystroke moves the JAWS Cursor to the location of the PC Cursor. If the Invisible Cursor is active when this keystroke is used, the Invisible Cursor is moved to the location of the PC Cursor.

 

Left Mouse Button (CAPS LOCK+8)
This keystroke simulates a single left mouse button click. Press the keystroke twice quickly to simulate a left mouse button double click.

 

Right Mouse Button (CAPS LOCK+9)
This keystroke simulates a single right mouse button click. Press the keystroke twice quickly to simulate a right mouse button double click.

 

Left Mouse Button Lock (CTRL+8)
This keystroke simulates pressing down the left mouse button and holding it. Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the ARROW keys. JAWS will not speak until CTRL+8 is pressed again to unlock the left mouse button. This keystroke can be used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.

 

Right Mouse Button Lock (CTRL+9)
This keystroke simulates pressing down the right mouse button and holding it. Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the ARROW keys. JAWS will not speak until CTRL+9 is pressed again to unlock the right mouse button. This keystroke can be used to drag items from one location and drop them in another. When the keystroke is pressed a second time to unlock the right mouse button, a menu may appear with options such as Copy Here, Move Here, and Create Shortcut Here.

 

Drag and Drop (CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8)
This keystroke is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another. Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8 . You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS keeps speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the item, press CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8 again, and the item is moved to the position of the active cursor.

 

Note: The original position of what you are dragging, and the location to which you are moving it must both be visible on the screen when you press CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8 the second time or the drag and drop will not work.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 12:37 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Thanks Mike, but how about when using a laptop keyboard?

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Takis,

 

If you have a Numpad the right side of the Numpad has 3 keys, and from top to bottom the keys are  layed out this way:

Right side top:  Numpad Minus, activates the Jaws cursor.

 

Right side middle:  Numpad Plus, activates the PC cursor.

 

Right side bottom:  Enter key.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:30 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to?

                                                            Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Restoration

Tom Behler
 

Mike:

 

Thanks for sending these steps for doing a system restore in Windows 10.

 

I have been looking for something like this for quite a while!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Restoration

 

Howdy Mild Cheddah,

 

See if the steps below help:

From: Jim

Good afternoon Jaws users list.
How to do a System Restore in W-10 with Jaws.

1. Press the Windows key, to bring up the search edit box.
2. Type System, press Enter on, System control panel.
3. Tab several times to, System Protection, press Enter.
4. You will be put in, the System properties multi page dialog, On The first page of this dialog called, System protection tab
5. Tab one time to, System restore..., press Enter.
6. Wait a few seconds for the page to open, Jaws speaks a lot of information to you, you are on the Next button.
7. Press Enter on the Next button.
8. You are in a list of the dates of different Restore points, down arrow and highlight or select the date you wish to Restore your computer to.
9. Now Tab to the Next button, press Enter.
10. Now you will hear, confirm your Restore point, followed by the date you highlighted on the previous page.
11. Tab to the Finish button, Press Enter.
12. You will hear a warning dialog saying, when System restore is started, it cannot be interrupted, press the spacebar or Enter to continue with System restore, or something like that.
13. press the appropriate control, either the Spacebar or the Enter key.
14. Now in about 25 to 50 minutes, your computer will boot up to your Log-in screen.
15. Type in your password or your pin, you are now done and Restored to the date you chose in the System restore list.

Jim

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: cheez

Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 3:13 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Restoration

 

Where do I go to restore my system back to a previous day whent things were working fine?

Running latest JAWS with Win 10.  Thanks.

Vince

Re: Restoration

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Mike,
Are you making fun of Vince?
You know he's really a gouda guy.
LOL
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Restoration

Howdy Mild Cheddah,
 
See if the steps below help:
From: Jim
Good afternoon Jaws users list.
How to do a System Restore in W-10 with Jaws.

1. Press the Windows key, to bring up the search edit box.
2. Type System, press Enter on, System control panel.
3. Tab several times to, System Protection, press Enter.
4. You will be put in, the System properties multi page dialog, On The first page of this dialog called, System protection tab
5. Tab one time to, System restore..., press Enter.
6. Wait a few seconds for the page to open, Jaws speaks a lot of information to you, you are on the Next button.
7. Press Enter on the Next button.
8. You are in a list of the dates of different Restore points, down arrow and highlight or select the date you wish to Restore your computer to.
9. Now Tab to the Next button, press Enter.
10. Now you will hear, confirm your Restore point, followed by the date you highlighted on the previous page.
11. Tab to the Finish button, Press Enter.
12. You will hear a warning dialog saying, when System restore is started, it cannot be interrupted, press the spacebar or Enter to continue with System restore, or something like that.
13. press the appropriate control, either the Spacebar or the Enter key.
14. Now in about 25 to 50 minutes, your computer will boot up to your Log-in screen.
15. Type in your password or your pin, you are now done and Restored to the date you chose in the System restore list.
Jim
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: cheez
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 3:13 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Restoration

Where do I go to restore my system back to a previous day whent things were working fine?
Running latest JAWS with Win 10.  Thanks.
Vince

Re: Google Chrome 74 is now available

Vicki W
 

I also had to go into about to get the update.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome 74 is now available


Mine didn't, I had to go into about to start the update.
It hangs on checking for updates for a while, but eventually it reads a
percentage.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy" <wq6r@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome 74 is now available


When you launch Google Chrome, it should update to the latest version
automatically.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gassman" <johngassman@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Google Chrome 74 is now available


Hi,
Here's Eric's message about the Chrome update.

All,

In the March update of JAWS, there were changes made to prepare for the
release of Chrome build 74 and higher. If you have Chrome installed, and
go to the about box, you should get that update installed now. Here is
what was posted in the release notes and I think a great reason to move to
Chrome if you have not already.
Improvements With Selecting and Copying Content in Chrome
After working closely with developers at Google, we are pleased to
announce that starting with Chrome version 74.0.3717, an update scheduled
for release by April 2019, selecting and copying text using the keyboard
will now include the HTML markup as we have done in Internet Explorer for
years. The functionality is included for all users of JAWS and Fusion
2019, providing the ability to copy live links, lists of items, and even
tables from the Chrome browser and pasting them into Email messages or
Documents without losing the formatting.
Regards,
Eric

*** The next JAWS monthly update should be out by the end of April.
John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification








Re: Touch Cursor Information

LeDon
 

I find that there is a jaws curser, a PC curser and a touch curser but when I press the jaws key and the P key twice quickly, I see an invisible curser.  So what is this?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I think we just have to play with all three cursors sometimes to see what will work.  I’ve been on web pages where nothing will activate a “clickable” and where nothing can see the “play” button the website says is there on the top left of the screen.

And the print button on the Southwest Airlines webpage certainly did not work either.

When I scan a file or folder with Eset, the JAWS cursor will read the results, as will insert b.

I played with the touch cursor just now.  When I press control-home with the touch coursor activated, JAWS says Eset Antivirus Window.  But I could not read the contents of the window.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:36 PM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

Thank you for this Becca.

 

The only question I have then is if the touch cursor will see things the Jaws cursor won’t.

 

For example, when you get a dialog box where Jaws just lands on the button and so you have to perform an insert+B command to read the entire dialog box, so, to avoid doing this, I’ll try the Jaws cursor to simply move up a line or two instead of having to listen to a whole bunch of text.  In this instance, the Jaws cursor will simply say blank, no matter where you go.  Will the touch cursor read this types of things instead of the Jaws cursor.

 

I would think this a very useful cursor to use in place of the Jaws cursor, but again, Jaws has to be able to see this stuff, and if it’s only as good as the Jaws cursor, then it isn’t much use, save for apps such as the ones listed.

 

Victor

 

From: Rebecca Lineberger

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:15 AM

To: JAWS Users List

Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Touch Cursor Information

Dave...
 


LeDon,
 
A good question. I've never been able to see it, so have not investigated it. What does the JAWS help system tell you about the invisible cursor?
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 08:01
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

I find that there is a jaws curser, a PC curser and a touch curser but when I press the jaws key and the P key twice quickly, I see an invisible curser.  So what is this?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I think we just have to play with all three cursors sometimes to see what will work.  I’ve been on web pages where nothing will activate a “clickable” and where nothing can see the “play” button the website says is there on the top left of the screen.

And the print button on the Southwest Airlines webpage certainly did not work either.

When I scan a file or folder with Eset, the JAWS cursor will read the results, as will insert b.

I played with the touch cursor just now.  When I press control-home with the touch coursor activated, JAWS says Eset Antivirus Window.  But I could not read the contents of the window.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:36 PM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

Thank you for this Becca.

 

The only question I have then is if the touch cursor will see things the Jaws cursor won’t.

 

For example, when you get a dialog box where Jaws just lands on the button and so you have to perform an insert+B command to read the entire dialog box, so, to avoid doing this, I’ll try the Jaws cursor to simply move up a line or two instead of having to listen to a whole bunch of text.  In this instance, the Jaws cursor will simply say blank, no matter where you go.  Will the touch cursor read this types of things instead of the Jaws cursor.

 

I would think this a very useful cursor to use in place of the Jaws cursor, but again, Jaws has to be able to see this stuff, and if it’s only as good as the Jaws cursor, then it isn’t much use, save for apps such as the ones listed.

 

Victor

 

From: Rebecca Lineberger

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:15 AM

To: JAWS Users List

Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Invisible Cursor: What it Is

Dave...
 


LeDon,
 
Looked up on the FS web site and here is what it says about the Invisible Cursor:
 
6.4 Invisible Cursor
 
The Invisible cursor was created for the sole purpose of accessing information on the screen. You have probably not used the Invisible cursor during your
daily use of JAWS. The Invisible cursor is identical to the JAWS cursor. You can move it anywhere on the screen, but you cannot perform any mouse actions
such as a left mouse click.
 
You use the same navigation keystrokes as you do when other cursors are active. You can activate the Invisible cursor from your keyboard by pressing NUM
PAD MINUS twice in succession. When you only need to read information on the screen, then the Invisible cursor is the best cursor to use.
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave...
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 08:14
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

LeDon,
 
A good question. I've never been able to see it, so have not investigated it. What does the JAWS help system tell you about the invisible cursor?
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 08:01
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

I find that there is a jaws curser, a PC curser and a touch curser but when I press the jaws key and the P key twice quickly, I see an invisible curser.  So what is this?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I think we just have to play with all three cursors sometimes to see what will work.  I’ve been on web pages where nothing will activate a “clickable” and where nothing can see the “play” button the website says is there on the top left of the screen.

And the print button on the Southwest Airlines webpage certainly did not work either.

When I scan a file or folder with Eset, the JAWS cursor will read the results, as will insert b.

I played with the touch cursor just now.  When I press control-home with the touch coursor activated, JAWS says Eset Antivirus Window.  But I could not read the contents of the window.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:36 PM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

Thank you for this Becca.

 

The only question I have then is if the touch cursor will see things the Jaws cursor won’t.

 

For example, when you get a dialog box where Jaws just lands on the button and so you have to perform an insert+B command to read the entire dialog box, so, to avoid doing this, I’ll try the Jaws cursor to simply move up a line or two instead of having to listen to a whole bunch of text.  In this instance, the Jaws cursor will simply say blank, no matter where you go.  Will the touch cursor read this types of things instead of the Jaws cursor.

 

I would think this a very useful cursor to use in place of the Jaws cursor, but again, Jaws has to be able to see this stuff, and if it’s only as good as the Jaws cursor, then it isn’t much use, save for apps such as the ones listed.

 

Victor

 

From: Rebecca Lineberger

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:15 AM

To: JAWS Users List

Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Danny Park
 

I am seeing the same problem on occasions with W L M so I am wondering if there is the same kind of solution for this.
 
Thanks,
Danny
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox
 
Hi Gary,
 
See if these 2 notes I got elsewhere will help.
From: Mario
In TB, do you have the message pane turned off? to check, press alt,
then v (for view) and l (for layout), and up arrow once. if it is
checked, press enter to uncheck it and return to TB.
Mario
 
how do I turn off email notifications in Thunderbird 45.1.1
2 years ago.
how do I turn off email notifications in Thunderbird 45.1.1? I'm referring to the popup notifications of new email messages. An old thread recommended
going to edit>preferences> to do so. This version does not have a preferences option under the edit menu or elsewhere that I can find. This is thunderbird
on windows 10. Seems an obvious problem, I'm probably missing something simple. Just trying to have a more distraction free world...  
 
Chosen solution
 
1. By default, Thunderbird will notify you of new mail via a pop-up box, as shown here.
 
2. If you don't want to be notified in this way, click Tools > Options > General. Uncheck either or both boxes for Show an alert or Play a sound. Then
click OK.
 
Note: Even if you uncheck both boxes, Thunderbird will still display the small envelope icon in the lower right of your screen.
 
3. If you do want to show alerts, but want to limit the kind of information displayed, click Customize and check only what you want to see. Click OK, then
exit Options. 
 
The above info

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Jackson
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox
 

The same thing happens to me sometimes in thunderbird. Of course I'm not finding the same options  as the ones in outlook.

 

Gary

 


On 4/24/2019 2:10 PM, Mike B wrote:
Below is a note from someone with the same problem and their fix.
Hello, a month or so ago, I asked for assistance in stopping jaws from automatically reading new incoming messages in outlook.
No matter where I was in windows. whether it was ms word, the documents folder, etc,  jaws would begin reading new messages as they came in.
 
In case anyone has this issue, the fix is,
 
While in outlook, press, Alt + F, then the letter, T.
 
Arrow down once to the mail option.
 
Then tab several times to desktop alerts. Uncheck this option and then tab to ok button.
 
This should take care of the issue.
 
 
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox
 

Someone else asked about this recently.  I gave the suggestion to be sure that Desktop Notifications are turned off in the Outlook Options under the Mail heading.  Go to Alt F, T, then arrow down to mail and Shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons.  The list of Mail options is really long, so I think it’s faster to get to the one you need by going backward.  I’m not positive if this will solve your issue, but I think it will help.

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io On Behalf Of Annette Carr via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Hello,

I am running JAWS2019 on a Windows10 computer and using Outlook 365 Enterprise for e-mail.  When messages arrive in my inbox, the body of the message is read by JAWS.  Both the Reading Pane and the Preview lines are turned off from the ribbon.  If anyone has any idea how to stop this, I would appreciate any recommendations.

Annette



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