Date   
how to export chrome book marks

Dennis L
 

Hi, how do I export chrome bookmarks?  Thanks.

Re: jaws cursor

t
 

friend, for those of us who don’t have feelings in our finger tips due to pricking our fingers to check our blood, using a touch screen is extremely difficult, so it’s not funny to us
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
That’s funny.  LOL.
 
That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

Hi Douglas,
 
How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.
 
Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?
 
Victor
 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

george b
 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Adrian Spratt
 

Actually, George, shift+the PC cursor key starts the touch cursor. I’m sure you knew that and responded on auto pilot, as almost all of  us have been known to do from time to time.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

I know how to get into touch cursor mode, but how does one use it as though one were using a touch screen.
 
Believe me, there are several times that a Jaws cursor or PC cursor will not interact with a window and a touch cursor does.
 
So, if there is an ability to mimic the touch cursor in any way, I would love to know this.
 
Victor
 

From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Justin Williams
 

I’ve been looking for that as well.

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I know how to get into touch cursor mode, but how does one use it as though one were using a touch screen.

 

Believe me, there are several times that a Jaws cursor or PC cursor will not interact with a window and a touch cursor does.

 

So, if there is an ability to mimic the touch cursor in any way, I would love to know this.

 

Victor

 

From: george b

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Justin Williams
 

Whne I get the time, I’ll go hunting for a tutorial.

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I know how to get into touch cursor mode, but how does one use it as though one were using a touch screen.

 

Believe me, there are several times that a Jaws cursor or PC cursor will not interact with a window and a touch cursor does.

 

So, if there is an ability to mimic the touch cursor in any way, I would love to know this.

 

Victor

 

From: george b

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


I think that Mike's recent post of all the cursor functions went on to describe the uses of the touch cursor as well.
I think it was Mike who posted that, if not, whoever posted it sent a keeper to the list, and thanks.
Not that much in that message was news to me, but I like keeping a reference in my inbox.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

I’ve been looking for that as well.

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I know how to get into touch cursor mode, but how does one use it as though one were using a touch screen.

 

Believe me, there are several times that a Jaws cursor or PC cursor will not interact with a window and a touch cursor does.

 

So, if there is an ability to mimic the touch cursor in any way, I would love to know this.

 

Victor

 

From: george b

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Justin Williams
 

I saw that, but didn’t see keystrokes.  I could have missed it, though, that’s on me if I did. 

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I think that Mike's recent post of all the cursor functions went on to describe the uses of the touch cursor as well.

I think it was Mike who posted that, if not, whoever posted it sent a keeper to the list, and thanks.

Not that much in that message was news to me, but I like keeping a reference in my inbox.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve been looking for that as well.

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I know how to get into touch cursor mode, but how does one use it as though one were using a touch screen.

 

Believe me, there are several times that a Jaws cursor or PC cursor will not interact with a window and a touch cursor does.

 

So, if there is an ability to mimic the touch cursor in any way, I would love to know this.

 

Victor

 

From: george b

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Touch Cursor Information

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: jaws cursor

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to?

                                                            Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: top posting

LeDon
 

So, I have heard that there is no dumb question. Therefore , here goes, what is top posting?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sherry Wells
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

I agree with Alan. My sighted work colleagues preferred top posting too. In fact, there were many complaints whenever anyone did a bottom post. Sighted people too like the ease of just finding what they need at the top of the email.

Sherry Wells

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

Glenn,

I beg to differ with your statement that many if not most sighted folks prefer bottom posting. Back in my sighted work days, I certainly preferred top posting as did the majority of my co-workers. I'm sort of scratching my head wondering where you drew that conclusion since most want to get to a response as quickly as possible whether sighted or not and top posting yields the quickest response.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] top posting

Hi,
Many, if not most sighted folk prefer bottom posting.
To them, it makes sense.
Sighted folk can simply look past all the past info and glance down to the new information.
I think some Blind folk like to do this because they may feel that it normalizes them to some degree because most sighted users do this.
I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a screenreader user who prefers bottom-posting, because we are forced to reread the non-relevant information at the top.
Usually when we read a message of a particular thread, we have been following the thread and we just want to read the next reply and that is why I call that non-relevant.
And if we come into a thread late, it is no big deal to arrow down to discover what the above message was referring to.
I'm bringing this topic up because I have read some bottom-posted messages on this list in the past and the moderators prefer that we top-post.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjustice@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


That may be so, but I am not in the habit of searching for a reply which should be at the top of the message, and nor should anyone else!
Refer to the list guidelines for proper posting practices.


Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon S" <koala@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


Hi, there was a message however it was right near the bottom.

Larry was commenting on the cost for his jaws compared to the price quoted for the other person.

Larry, the $90 offer is only available in US at the moment but they are hoping to at some stage open it up to all countries.

Hope this helps.
From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws

If you have something constructive to say, then say it, do not re-post what has already been said.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Volk" <notseeman@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


On 4/21/19, John Gassman <johngassman@...> wrote:
If she lives in the United States, she can move from JAWS 14 to 2019
for just $90.00.
She'll be able to authorize it legally.
If she doesn't live here, she'll have to wait until the home annual
license is released world wide.
I hope that will be in the near future but so far no date has been
released.

John
At 07:37 AM 4/21/2019, you wrote:
I do not believe this is a question to be discussed on here as it goes
to copyright violation.

From: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] activating jaws

I have a friend who is running windows 7 with jaws 14 installed.
Currently jaws 14 is set to startup when the computer does.
I gave her my old cd of jaws 17 with a valid authorization.
She has got jaws 17 installed but not
authorized so she is still using 14 and 17 is sitting on her computer.
My question is how can she authorize 17. She gets like oh no I have
no speech what do I do!
Basically because she doesn’


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife
would have preferred.

JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification





Wow! Here in Canada it cost me more than $600.00 to go from JAWS 14 to 2019.

Re: Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Van Lant, Robin
 

Someone else asked about this recently.  I gave the suggestion to be sure that Desktop Notifications are turned off in the Outlook Options under the Mail heading.  Go to Alt F, T, then arrow down to mail and Shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons.  The list of Mail options is really long, so I think it’s faster to get to the one you need by going backward.  I’m not positive if this will solve your issue, but I think it will help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Carr via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

Hello,

 

I am running JAWS2019 on a Windows10 computer and using Outlook 365 Enterprise for e-mail.  When messages arrive in my inbox, the body of the message is read by JAWS.  Both the Reading Pane and the Preview lines are turned off from the ribbon.  If anyone has any idea how to stop this, I would appreciate any recommendations.

 

Annette

 

 



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Re: jaws cursor

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

It certainly makes sense Victor and I am most grateful to both Adrian and yourself.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

If you come across a situation where the PC cursor, in other words, tabbing around is not giving you enough information with which to make an informed decision regarding your next move, then trying to use your Jaws cursor to obtain the necessary information does not hurt.  Using your mouse cursor to investigate the screen will not effect the screen at all, unless you press one of the mouse click keys, in other words, the star and slash at the top of your number pad, but moving the mouse cursor around the screen will not hurt your situation any, so you can feel free to experiment with the Jaws cursor all you want, as long as you do not press the star and slash keys.

 

Since the PC cursor only gives you information about the section of the window you are in now, for example, if you are using the PC cursor in Internet Explorer, you will see everything that is on the webpage with your PC cursor, in other words, by using your arrow keys and tabbing around.  At the same time, there are sections of the Internet Explorer window that you have to access using a different method or keystroke.

 

Pressing the alt key, or alt+a letter key will get you to the menu bar, or a menu on the menu bar.  Where a sighted person would simply move the mouse arrow to that part of the window to activate the menu bar or it’s menu, you have to press a keystroke to get to that area.

 

The Jaws cursor, in many cases, does what the mouse arrow does, including the left and right mouse button click.  It’s sort of like a seamless transition from one area of the window to another, like a sighted person has, the only difference is that you have to press a key or two to have that effect.

 

Hope that makes sense.

 

Victor

 

From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:56 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: how to export chrome book marks

Reed Poynter
 

Hello Dennis,

 

Here is how I exported my Chrome bookmarks.

When in Chrome, I pressed Control-Shift-o to get into Bookmark Manager.

I landed in a search field and JAWS said, "Search bookmarks Edit".

I pressed Escape.

I pressed down-arrow and JAWS said, "Bookmark folder tree".

I pressed up-arrow and JAWS said, "Organize button menu".

Now, I think when you are on that edit field and you press down-arrow, you are supposed to land directly on that Organize button menu.  I think you shouldn't have to do this down-arrow, up-arrow thing.

On the Organize button menu button, I pressed Enter.

I down-arrowed through the list,

Sort by name

Add new bookmark

Add new folder

Import bookmarks

Export bookmarks

 

and pressed enter.

Chrome asked me to specify a file name for the exported bookmarks.

 

Reed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: April 24, 2019 5:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] how to export chrome book marks

 

Hi, how do I export chrome bookmarks?  Thanks.

Re: top posting

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi LeDon,
Top posting is like this message, where your reply is the first part of the
message and what you are replying to comes after that.
Bottom posting is mostly used by sighted folk, and done properly, if there
are multiple questions they are replying to, they will show the question
they are replying to first and their responses below each question asked.
Most replies have bullets in front of the original message, the eMail
program does this on reply.
But screenreader users usually dislike having to hear all the old
information before they get to the response.
If the original message is more than two or three lines, I escape out and
don't even read it, as I don't want to hear all that old information again.
HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "LeDon" <ledonb@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting


So, I have heard that there is no dumb question. Therefore , here goes, what
is top posting?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Sherry Wells
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

I agree with Alan. My sighted work colleagues preferred top posting too.
In fact, there were many complaints whenever anyone did a bottom post.
Sighted people too like the ease of just finding what they need at the top
of the email.

Sherry Wells

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

Glenn,

I beg to differ with your statement that many if not most sighted folks
prefer bottom posting. Back in my sighted work days, I certainly preferred
top posting as did the majority of my co-workers. I'm sort of scratching my
head wondering where you drew that conclusion since most want to get to a
response as quickly as possible whether sighted or not and top posting
yields the quickest response.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] top posting

Hi,
Many, if not most sighted folk prefer bottom posting.
To them, it makes sense.
Sighted folk can simply look past all the past info and glance down to the
new information.
I think some Blind folk like to do this because they may feel that it
normalizes them to some degree because most sighted users do this.
I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a screenreader user who prefers
bottom-posting, because we are forced to reread the non-relevant information
at the top.
Usually when we read a message of a particular thread, we have been
following the thread and we just want to read the next reply and that is why
I call that non-relevant.
And if we come into a thread late, it is no big deal to arrow down to
discover what the above message was referring to.
I'm bringing this topic up because I have read some bottom-posted messages
on this list in the past and the moderators prefer that we top-post.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjustice@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


That may be so, but I am not in the habit of searching for a reply which
should be at the top of the message, and nor should anyone else!
Refer to the list guidelines for proper posting practices.


Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon S" <koala@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


Hi, there was a message however it was right near the bottom.

Larry was commenting on the cost for his jaws compared to the price quoted
for the other person.

Larry, the $90 offer is only available in US at the moment but they are
hoping to at some stage open it up to all countries.

Hope this helps.
From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws

If you have something constructive to say, then say it, do not re-post what
has already been said.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Volk" <notseeman@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


On 4/21/19, John Gassman <johngassman@...> wrote:
If she lives in the United States, she can move from JAWS 14 to 2019
for just $90.00.
She'll be able to authorize it legally.
If she doesn't live here, she'll have to wait until the home annual
license is released world wide.
I hope that will be in the near future but so far no date has been
released.

John
At 07:37 AM 4/21/2019, you wrote:
I do not believe this is a question to be discussed on here as it goes
to copyright violation.

From: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] activating jaws

I have a friend who is running windows 7 with jaws 14 installed.
Currently jaws 14 is set to startup when the computer does.
I gave her my old cd of jaws 17 with a valid authorization.
She has got jaws 17 installed but not
authorized so she is still using 14 and 17 is sitting on her computer.
My question is how can she authorize 17. She gets like oh no I have
no speech what do I do!
Basically because she doesn’


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife
would have preferred.

JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification





Wow! Here in Canada it cost me more than $600.00 to go from JAWS 14 to 2019.

Re: top posting

JM Casey
 

It refers to the location of your reply ina thread, either on an e-mail list like this one, a forum or internet newsgroup. If it's at the top of the message, iE, before a possibly-long series of quoted messages going backwards, then it's top-posted.

Again, I'd like to reiterate that I always saw the whole point of doing things the other way, or so called "bottom-posting", being so you can quote and reply to individual parts of a person's message, but it seems like since the 1990s, most people stopped bothering with this. I did kind of like this and so when I reply to facebook posts I will sometimes actually copy and paste parts of a comment or post and then reply to each bit with my own poitns or rebuttals.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: April 24, 2019 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

So, I have heard that there is no dumb question. Therefore , here goes, what is top posting?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sherry Wells
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

I agree with Alan. My sighted work colleagues preferred top posting too. In fact, there were many complaints whenever anyone did a bottom post. Sighted people too like the ease of just finding what they need at the top of the email.

Sherry Wells

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

Glenn,

I beg to differ with your statement that many if not most sighted folks prefer bottom posting. Back in my sighted work days, I certainly preferred top posting as did the majority of my co-workers. I'm sort of scratching my head wondering where you drew that conclusion since most want to get to a response as quickly as possible whether sighted or not and top posting yields the quickest response.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] top posting

Hi,
Many, if not most sighted folk prefer bottom posting.
To them, it makes sense.
Sighted folk can simply look past all the past info and glance down to the new information.
I think some Blind folk like to do this because they may feel that it normalizes them to some degree because most sighted users do this.
I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a screenreader user who prefers bottom-posting, because we are forced to reread the non-relevant information at the top.
Usually when we read a message of a particular thread, we have been following the thread and we just want to read the next reply and that is why I call that non-relevant.
And if we come into a thread late, it is no big deal to arrow down to discover what the above message was referring to.
I'm bringing this topic up because I have read some bottom-posted messages on this list in the past and the moderators prefer that we top-post.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjustice@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


That may be so, but I am not in the habit of searching for a reply which should be at the top of the message, and nor should anyone else!
Refer to the list guidelines for proper posting practices.


Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon S" <koala@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


Hi, there was a message however it was right near the bottom.

Larry was commenting on the cost for his jaws compared to the price quoted for the other person.

Larry, the $90 offer is only available in US at the moment but they are hoping to at some stage open it up to all countries.

Hope this helps.
From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws

If you have something constructive to say, then say it, do not re-post what has already been said.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Volk" <notseeman@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


On 4/21/19, John Gassman <johngassman@...> wrote:
If she lives in the United States, she can move from JAWS 14 to 2019
for just $90.00.
She'll be able to authorize it legally.
If she doesn't live here, she'll have to wait until the home annual
license is released world wide.
I hope that will be in the near future but so far no date has been
released.

John
At 07:37 AM 4/21/2019, you wrote:
I do not believe this is a question to be discussed on here as it goes
to copyright violation.

From: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] activating jaws

I have a friend who is running windows 7 with jaws 14 installed.
Currently jaws 14 is set to startup when the computer does.
I gave her my old cd of jaws 17 with a valid authorization.
She has got jaws 17 installed but not
authorized so she is still using 14 and 17 is sitting on her computer.
My question is how can she authorize 17. She gets like oh no I have
no speech what do I do!
Basically because she doesn’


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife
would have preferred.

JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification





Wow! Here in Canada it cost me more than $600.00 to go from JAWS 14 to 2019.

Re: jaws cursor

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Takis. The PC key is the numpad button for “plus” when the numlock is turned off. Another way of explaining it is that it’s the long key above the long enter key on the far right of the numpad.

I just checked JAWS’ keyboard help. The key doesn’t have a well-defined name.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to?

                                                            Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019