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Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

If you come across a situation where the PC cursor, in other words, tabbing around is not giving you enough information with which to make an informed decision regarding your next move, then trying to use your Jaws cursor to obtain the necessary information does not hurt.  Using your mouse cursor to investigate the screen will not effect the screen at all, unless you press one of the mouse click keys, in other words, the star and slash at the top of your number pad, but moving the mouse cursor around the screen will not hurt your situation any, so you can feel free to experiment with the Jaws cursor all you want, as long as you do not press the star and slash keys.
 
Since the PC cursor only gives you information about the section of the window you are in now, for example, if you are using the PC cursor in Internet Explorer, you will see everything that is on the webpage with your PC cursor, in other words, by using your arrow keys and tabbing around.  At the same time, there are sections of the Internet Explorer window that you have to access using a different method or keystroke.
 
Pressing the alt key, or alt+a letter key will get you to the menu bar, or a menu on the menu bar.  Where a sighted person would simply move the mouse arrow to that part of the window to activate the menu bar or it’s menu, you have to press a keystroke to get to that area.
 
The Jaws cursor, in many cases, does what the mouse arrow does, including the left and right mouse button click.  It’s sort of like a seamless transition from one area of the window to another, like a sighted person has, the only difference is that you have to press a key or two to have that effect.
 
Hope that makes sense.
 
Victor
 

From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Adrian Spratt
 

Mike posted FS’s review of all the cursors the other day. However, you’ll get a good idea just by turning it on and moving around with your navigation keys.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Is there something like some keystrokes or a tutorial on the touch cursor?

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

CJ &AA MAY
 

How nifty!

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Private Email
Sent: 23 April 2019 13:47
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

It’s a layered keystroke,  first press insert and space bar at the same time, listen for a little click sound then press the letter H.  JAWS will bring up a screen with the past 400 words?  (not sure how many word)  that JAWS last spoke.  It’s a great little tool to know. 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of james f hooper
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

How does one use jaws speech history?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Private Email
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

Another way to handle this issue of not understanding the email address after hitting Alt 1, is to just pull up JAWS speech history and copy it from there. 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

JAWS key+3 on the number row above the letters.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 4:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

If these are Microsoft shortcuts, perhaps I could try the Jaws bypass key first. Could someone remind me please what this is?

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 20 April 2019 23:13
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

Alison,

The curious thing is that these are Microsoft shortcuts, not JAWS. The numbers refer to the number row above the letters. Perhaps you’re using the numpad.

Apologies if this point has already been made. I’m not following the thread closely.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 5:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

Sorry! I am using Jaws 18 with Windows 10 and Outlook 365.

For me, the alt 1, alt 2 etc. keys do not read the various information fields. Jaws just says “not available”.

Is there something I should be enabling?

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 20 April 2019 13:46
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

Hi Alison,

 

What version of Jaws, operating system, & email client?

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 1:59 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

This is a really useful tip.

Any suggestions why the Jaws shortcuts keep telling me “unavailable” when I press alt 1, alt 2 etc.? Is there something I need to enable/disable?

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 March 2019 06:01
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

Didn’t realise that, very useful, thank you very much for this!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 25 March 2019 12:12
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

Hi Michael,

 

With the email open hold down the, Alt key, and tap the, 1 key, on the number row twice quickly, then press, control + C, to copy it to the clipboard.  Now paste it into a text file to read it character by character.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:33 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Reading an e-mail address using Jaws

 

Hi.  I am using Windows 10 pro and home editions and I am using the latest update of Jaws 2019.  When I press the alt-1 key combo to find out the sender’s e-mail address, I can hear the e-mail address of the sender, but when it is read, I am not able to understand the address.  How do I arrow through the from address character by character?  Thanks. 



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Re: jaws cursor

JM Casey
 

Good explanation.

 

I think it’s worth reminding that most of the time, on the web, if we are JAWS users, we are using the “virtual PC cursor”, which behaves a little differently than the standard PC cursor that’s used in non-web applications. But aside from web content being delivered in a “buffer” and keys defaulting to quick nvagiation (iE, typing is very much restricted), the principle’s very similar.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 23, 2019 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

If you come across a situation where the PC cursor, in other words, tabbing around is not giving you enough information with which to make an informed decision regarding your next move, then trying to use your Jaws cursor to obtain the necessary information does not hurt.  Using your mouse cursor to investigate the screen will not effect the screen at all, unless you press one of the mouse click keys, in other words, the star and slash at the top of your number pad, but moving the mouse cursor around the screen will not hurt your situation any, so you can feel free to experiment with the Jaws cursor all you want, as long as you do not press the star and slash keys.

 

Since the PC cursor only gives you information about the section of the window you are in now, for example, if you are using the PC cursor in Internet Explorer, you will see everything that is on the webpage with your PC cursor, in other words, by using your arrow keys and tabbing around.  At the same time, there are sections of the Internet Explorer window that you have to access using a different method or keystroke.

 

Pressing the alt key, or alt+a letter key will get you to the menu bar, or a menu on the menu bar.  Where a sighted person would simply move the mouse arrow to that part of the window to activate the menu bar or it’s menu, you have to press a keystroke to get to that area.

 

The Jaws cursor, in many cases, does what the mouse arrow does, including the left and right mouse button click.  It’s sort of like a seamless transition from one area of the window to another, like a sighted person has, the only difference is that you have to press a key or two to have that effect.

 

Hope that makes sense.

 

Victor

 

From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:56 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Jaws and Stascom

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Vicky,
 
Different people will get various uses from this program.  Below  is a list of its features.  So far I like the, Reminders, feature but, I'm sure the more I use it there will be more that I'll like.
 
 
What to know before installing the program
 
Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for installation instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the program
familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.
 
SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable
list of 5 items
• Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute status and low volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5 and 100 percent;
• day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume levels and time slots customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title exceptions;
• time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the quarter hour, chime with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option to
specify user preferred chime sounds;
• all automated functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed configuration options available to suit individual needs.
list end
 
Individual hot keys for the following features
list of 10 items
• Open user guide in default browser;
• generate summary report of user settings;
• configuration window to specify user specific preferences for all features;
• temporarily unload program from memory;
• audio mixer input and output details;
• password generator, unique 10 character very strong password with each keystroke;
• calculation of word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and applications;
• Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5 percent increments, ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end
 
General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired. Manual check for updates option available;
• support for multiple user profiles on one system;
• status messages and time announcements via user preferred SAPI5 engine;
• user-friendly interface for changing SAPI5 voice parameters;
• support for same SAPI5 engine used with screen reader and program messages;
• optimised for NVDA screen reader;
• included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji symbols;
• small footprint;
• comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end    

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would have destroyed civilization.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

Hi Mike, What is the Stascom program supposed to do and what about it particularly intrigues you?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:37 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi All,

 

I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:

 

Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."

 

The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.


Virus-free. www.avg.com

Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Annette Carr
 

Hello,

 

I am running JAWS2019 on a Windows10 computer and using Outlook 365 Enterprise for e-mail.  When messages arrive in my inbox, the body of the message is read by JAWS.  Both the Reading Pane and the Preview lines are turned off from the ribbon.  If anyone has any idea how to stop this, I would appreciate any recommendations.

 

Annette

 

 

looking for good backup software

JOHN RIEHL
 

I just got a new computer and want a good backup program – both to back up files and to be able to backup and restore my hard disks. A friend strongly recommends macrium reflect. I downloaded the trial and find it inaccessible. Has anyone else used this program and can anyone recommend a good backup program?

Also, can anyone recommend a good, accessible

Thanks.  cloud backup storage service

Re: looking for good backup software

Glenn / Lenny
 

Both drop box and Open Drive are good cloud services.
With Open Drive you can synchronize any of your important folders to an encrypted folder on the site and it will keep a mirror image of that folder at all times.
So if you lose your system or drive or something, you can resync the folder and get your files back.
I get unlimited storage on Open Drive for 99 dollars a year.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:12 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] looking for good backup software

I just got a new computer and want a good backup program – both to back up files and to be able to backup and restore my hard disks. A friend strongly recommends macrium reflect. I downloaded the trial and find it inaccessible. Has anyone else used this program and can anyone recommend a good backup program?

Also, can anyone recommend a good, accessible

Thanks.  cloud backup storage service

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

touch cursor?
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 

From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


And all computers using the latest Jaws.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


Hi Sandy,
Smart phones have touch screens and we can use them.
Some tablets have touch screens and we can use those too.
And the Amazon Echo devices with a touch screen  along with iPads and other tablets all have touch screens that we can use.
With the latest Jaws, you can use the touch screen feature without a touch screen connected, which gives us more access than we had without this feature.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

That’s funny.  LOL.
 
That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.
 
Victor
 

From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Jaws and Stascom

BB <Berniece1910@...>
 

Does this program in any way enhance Jaws?
 
 

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hence forth the voice it uses. I have been using the program for quite some time already and it has served me well.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi David,
 
I only have Microsoft Anna on my Windows 7 desktop.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

It uses your default SAPII speech engine. Mine uses David since that is my default.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi All,
 
I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:
 
Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."
 
The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: Jaws and Stascom

Glenn / Lenny
 

Only in if your audio gets muted or turned down, you have built-in hotkeys to get the volume back.
Also, it maximizes all windows, which often makes Jaws work better.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: BB
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

Does this program in any way enhance Jaws?
 
 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hence forth the voice it uses. I have been using the program for quite some time already and it has served me well.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi David,
 
I only have Microsoft Anna on my Windows 7 desktop.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

It uses your default SAPII speech engine. Mine uses David since that is my default.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi All,
 
I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:
 
Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."
 
The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

I’m sorry, I just didn’t know blind people used them
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
That’s funny.  LOL.
 
That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Jaws and Stascom

chris judge
 

I love the program. The only thing I’m finding is that some of the keystrokes conflict with outlook. If I have outlook opened, for instance, and attempt to move to the calendar with control 2, the contact manager in stascom is launched. Does anyone know if the keystrokes can be reassigned?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: April 23, 2019 7:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi Vicky,

 

Different people will get various uses from this program.  Below  is a list of its features.  So far I like the, Reminders, feature but, I'm sure the more I use it there will be more that I'll like.

 

 

What to know before installing the program

 

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for installation instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the program
familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

 

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable
list of 5 items
• Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute status and low volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5 and 100 percent;
• day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume levels and time slots customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title exceptions;
• time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the quarter hour, chime with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option to
specify user preferred chime sounds;
• all automated functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed configuration options available to suit individual needs.
list end

 

Individual hot keys for the following features
list of 10 items
• Open user guide in default browser;
• generate summary report of user settings;
• configuration window to specify user specific preferences for all features;
• temporarily unload program from memory;
• audio mixer input and output details;
• password generator, unique 10 character very strong password with each keystroke;
• calculation of word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and applications;
• Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5 percent increments, ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

 

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired. Manual check for updates option available;
• support for multiple user profiles on one system;
• status messages and time announcements via user preferred SAPI5 engine;
• user-friendly interface for changing SAPI5 voice parameters;
• support for same SAPI5 engine used with screen reader and program messages;
• optimised for NVDA screen reader;
• included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji symbols;
• small footprint;
• comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end    


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would have destroyed civilization.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:46 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi Mike, What is the Stascom program supposed to do and what about it particularly intrigues you?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:37 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi All,

 

I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:

 

Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."

 

The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

 

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Re: Jaws and Stascom

chris judge
 

I haven’t played with a lot. BTW, please disregard my last comment regarding this matter. I figured out how to reassign the stascome modifier key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of BB
Sent: April 23, 2019 10:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Does this program in any way enhance Jaws?

 

 

From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:37 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hence forth the voice it uses. I have been using the program for quite some time already and it has served me well.

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi David,

 

I only have Microsoft Anna on my Windows 7 desktop.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:16 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

It uses your default SAPII speech engine. Mine uses David since that is my default.

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:36 PM

To: Jaws-Users-List

Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi All,

 

I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:

 

Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."

 

The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: jaws cursor

Sharon S
 

Hi, I found out by accerdent that the computer at the place I volunteer is a touch screen. It is one of these computers that are all in the screen. One day I was reaching over to put something into the USB port and bumped the screen and Jaws started talking to me. I haven’t spent any time playing with Jaws and the touch screen because I normally have work to do and no time just to play.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’m sorry, I just didn’t know blind people used them

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

That’s funny.  LOL.

 

That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019