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Re: Emoji

Glenn / Lenny
 

You turn on the number pad and use alt plus the numbers.
Smiley face is alt + 1.
You will get a character conflict message when sending one.
Just enter on
send it as is.
HTH.
Glenn

Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2019 1:18 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Emoji

Using jaws 2019 current, Windows 10 current, office 365 and outlook. How do I use emoji in outlook? I would like to add emoji when I send a mail. How do I do so?

Emoji

Holger Fiallo
 

Using jaws 2019 current, Windows 10 current, office 365 and outlook. How do I use emoji in outlook? I would like to add emoji when I send a mail. How do I do so?

Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

JM Casey
 

Hey.

 

I did not think of that, but it’s a good idea.  This might be something I should invoke more often. It is pretty useful.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: August 17, 2019 8:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Hi.

When you receive a prompt and all you hear are the corresponding buttons does virtualizing the current window with insert-alt-W help with reading the other text?

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 8/17/2019 3:55 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hi David.

 

Yes, I do use tab and shift-tab a lot in th is programme. It’s far from my favourite way to go about things, but it *mostly* works. Sometimes, though, pressing the various buttons seems to give no feedback at all. For example, yesterday I did a scan and found several items to be quarantined. I wanted to export the report to a file so I could read it more thoroughly, but the expected dialogue box simply did not appear, or, more probably, simply wasn’t read. When I did quarantine the items, I was presented with a dialogue with “yes” and “no” options, but nothing I was able to do showed me what else was in the dialogue, IE “click yes to restart your pC now” / “malwarebytes has made changes that require a restart”. I had to guess that that’s what it was, since, you know, it’s the logical next step after making the changes to the registry. But it was a frustrating moment, not being able to read that text, either by using insert-b, the jaws or touch cursor, etc.

 

Still, I wouldn’t give up this programme; malwarebytes is totally invaluable.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: August 17, 2019 11:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

When using MalwareBytes the tab and shift-tab keys are your friends. Navigating with tab moves from one item to the next. Normally, the tab key is used to move to what we call actionable items, meaning that you move to things that you can interact with, such as a button, edit field, combo box, etc. MalwareBytes does this but it also uses the tab and shift-tab keys to move to text which is informational only. On a Web site this is something that I would normally flag as a violation because it could prove to be frustrating for keyboard-only users, even those users who aren't using screen readers. However, with MalwareBytes it seems to work and pressing tab or shift-tab is the secret to successfully navigate the program. As an example, while you are performing a scan the tab key moves to items, such as the number of items which have been scanned, the number of threats which were detected, etc.

The tab which is currently selected no longer identifies its state, an issue which I reported to them a while back. As an example, if the Scan tab has been selected you should, ideally, hear JAWS say "scan tab, selected" but the word "selected" is not announced.

 

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 8/16/2019 3:15 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I recommend persevering with malwarebytes despite a somewhat annoying interface. It’s certainly usable, if not the most accessible thing out there. The thing is, it is a really good programme and the people behind it really know their stuff. It has saved my butt on at least three or four occasions, or at least helped me deal with obnoxious unwanted crap on my system.

Only thing is, like many programmes of its type, you should always make sure you understand a little of what you are getting rid of, when it flags stuff. Sometimes it will flag something like a change you made to the registry (either manually or through some other programme) that you actually want to keep/is actually wanted. You have to understand what kind of stuff MB flags and why. For instance, I replaced my task manager with Process Explorer some time back. Malwarebytes thinks this is a potential hack and so offers to remove the registry change.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: August 16, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

What about for windows 7? Malware Bites doesn't seem real accessible but I do need a good spyware program.

 

 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:24 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.

Stanley


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Clickables

michele thredgold
 

Somebody please remind me how to manage clickable!  I did save the message a while back but can’t seem to find it.  Using latest JAWS 19 update with latest W10 update and Google Chrome.

 

Have tried pressing enter, both once and twice, and space bar, but am not sure this is correct.  Sometimes links don’t respond.; and with my cognitive issue, I don’t always remember whether certain links are clickable  or not. I know JAWS tells us.  It’s just when trying to describe it to someone else, I don’t remember which actions I used for what links.  Sorry I can’t be more accurate.

 

Thanks heaps.

 

Michele

Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

David Goldfield
 

Hi.

When you receive a prompt and all you hear are the corresponding buttons does virtualizing the current window with insert-alt-W help with reading the other text?


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 8/17/2019 3:55 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hi David.

 

Yes, I do use tab and shift-tab a lot in th is programme. It’s far from my favourite way to go about things, but it *mostly* works. Sometimes, though, pressing the various buttons seems to give no feedback at all. For example, yesterday I did a scan and found several items to be quarantined. I wanted to export the report to a file so I could read it more thoroughly, but the expected dialogue box simply did not appear, or, more probably, simply wasn’t read. When I did quarantine the items, I was presented with a dialogue with “yes” and “no” options, but nothing I was able to do showed me what else was in the dialogue, IE “click yes to restart your pC now” / “malwarebytes has made changes that require a restart”. I had to guess that that’s what it was, since, you know, it’s the logical next step after making the changes to the registry. But it was a frustrating moment, not being able to read that text, either by using insert-b, the jaws or touch cursor, etc.

 

Still, I wouldn’t give up this programme; malwarebytes is totally invaluable.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: August 17, 2019 11:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

When using MalwareBytes the tab and shift-tab keys are your friends. Navigating with tab moves from one item to the next. Normally, the tab key is used to move to what we call actionable items, meaning that you move to things that you can interact with, such as a button, edit field, combo box, etc. MalwareBytes does this but it also uses the tab and shift-tab keys to move to text which is informational only. On a Web site this is something that I would normally flag as a violation because it could prove to be frustrating for keyboard-only users, even those users who aren't using screen readers. However, with MalwareBytes it seems to work and pressing tab or shift-tab is the secret to successfully navigate the program. As an example, while you are performing a scan the tab key moves to items, such as the number of items which have been scanned, the number of threats which were detected, etc.

The tab which is currently selected no longer identifies its state, an issue which I reported to them a while back. As an example, if the Scan tab has been selected you should, ideally, hear JAWS say "scan tab, selected" but the word "selected" is not announced.

 

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 8/16/2019 3:15 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I recommend persevering with malwarebytes despite a somewhat annoying interface. It’s certainly usable, if not the most accessible thing out there. The thing is, it is a really good programme and the people behind it really know their stuff. It has saved my butt on at least three or four occasions, or at least helped me deal with obnoxious unwanted crap on my system.

Only thing is, like many programmes of its type, you should always make sure you understand a little of what you are getting rid of, when it flags stuff. Sometimes it will flag something like a change you made to the registry (either manually or through some other programme) that you actually want to keep/is actually wanted. You have to understand what kind of stuff MB flags and why. For instance, I replaced my task manager with Process Explorer some time back. Malwarebytes thinks this is a potential hack and so offers to remove the registry change.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: August 16, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

What about for windows 7? Malware Bites doesn't seem real accessible but I do need a good spyware program.

 

 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:24 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.

Stanley


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Re: Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Judy Jones
 

Hi, Glenn,

 

You’re right, I am in Windows 10.  What you are describing is the way Internet Explorer has tocreate a shortcut.

 

What I finally have done is change my default browser back to Internet Explorer and redone the affected shortcuts.

 

What I believe happened is that, when I reset my Chrome browser settings, it defaulted my previously-created shortcuts to the Google Chrome main page.  This should not have happened, as far as I am concerned.

 

Once I recreated them all in Internet Explorer, and switched back to Chrome, all my shortcuts are back intact.

 

I just now tried and succeeded in creating another desktop shortcut in Chrome.

 

 

In retrospect, once resetting Chrome settings, if I had switched my default browser to something else, then switched back to Chrome again as my default browser, that may have been what cleared up the problem.  Not sure, but that is all I can come up with.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

If you are using W10, it may be different.

You may need to go to send to, and find desktop, create shortcut.

 

 

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 5:53 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Hi, Glenn,

 

I proceeded to try the same way you are suggesting, but did not see the shortcut option in the context menu.  The closest thing I saw is the Save Page As option, when on the page itself.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

The way I do it is to copy the link in a browser, by doing alt + D and copy.

Then I make a copy of the chrome shortcut via the applications key, it will have the same name but with (2) with it.

Then I do alt + enter on that new shortcut, and in the path field, I press the end key and a space and paste

So this puts the path to chrome a space and the URL.

Then I exit and on the shortcut, I press F2 and rename it.

It was much more to explain it than it really takes to do all this.

Maybe there is a shorter way, but this is the steps Google used to offer a few years back.

Glenn

 

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 5:10 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Would you please give the steps you used in Chrome to create a web page desktop icon?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Good morning;

perhaps you can give the steps you take to create a web desktop shortcut. I just created one in chrome, and had no problem using the shortcut to get to the web page.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Hello, All,

 

I’ve recently updated to Jaws 19, although my issue may not have anything to do with that.

 

I also had problems with Google Chrome crashing, so I restored the settings, as had been suggested in a help forum.

 

Now, however, any of the shortcuts on my desktop to sites just take me to the main Google Chrome page.

 

I have tried deleting and creating new shortcuts, but no changes.  I also tried checking the checkbox on the shortcut creation dialogue that says to open in a window, still no changes.

 

I’ve tried the various On Startup checkboxes, still no changes.

 

Does anyone have ideas for me?  As it is now, I have to type in the total url and can no longer use shortcuts.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Glenn / Lenny
 

If you are using W10, it may be different.
You may need to go to send to, and find desktop, create shortcut.
 

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Hi, Glenn,

 

I proceeded to try the same way you are suggesting, but did not see the shortcut option in the context menu.  The closest thing I saw is the Save Page As option, when on the page itself.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

The way I do it is to copy the link in a browser, by doing alt + D and copy.

Then I make a copy of the chrome shortcut via the applications key, it will have the same name but with (2) with it.

Then I do alt + enter on that new shortcut, and in the path field, I press the end key and a space and paste

So this puts the path to chrome a space and the URL.

Then I exit and on the shortcut, I press F2 and rename it.

It was much more to explain it than it really takes to do all this.

Maybe there is a shorter way, but this is the steps Google used to offer a few years back.

Glenn

 

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 5:10 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Would you please give the steps you used in Chrome to create a web page desktop icon?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Good morning;

perhaps you can give the steps you take to create a web desktop shortcut. I just created one in chrome, and had no problem using the shortcut to get to the web page.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Hello, All,

 

I’ve recently updated to Jaws 19, although my issue may not have anything to do with that.

 

I also had problems with Google Chrome crashing, so I restored the settings, as had been suggested in a help forum.

 

Now, however, any of the shortcuts on my desktop to sites just take me to the main Google Chrome page.

 

I have tried deleting and creating new shortcuts, but no changes.  I also tried checking the checkbox on the shortcut creation dialogue that says to open in a window, still no changes.

 

I’ve tried the various On Startup checkboxes, still no changes.

 

Does anyone have ideas for me?  As it is now, I have to type in the total url and can no longer use shortcuts.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Judy Jones
 

Hi, Glenn,

 

I proceeded to try the same way you are suggesting, but did not see the shortcut option in the context menu.  The closest thing I saw is the Save Page As option, when on the page itself.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

The way I do it is to copy the link in a browser, by doing alt + D and copy.

Then I make a copy of the chrome shortcut via the applications key, it will have the same name but with (2) with it.

Then I do alt + enter on that new shortcut, and in the path field, I press the end key and a space and paste

So this puts the path to chrome a space and the URL.

Then I exit and on the shortcut, I press F2 and rename it.

It was much more to explain it than it really takes to do all this.

Maybe there is a shorter way, but this is the steps Google used to offer a few years back.

Glenn

 

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 5:10 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Would you please give the steps you used in Chrome to create a web page desktop icon?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Good morning;

perhaps you can give the steps you take to create a web desktop shortcut. I just created one in chrome, and had no problem using the shortcut to get to the web page.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Hello, All,

 

I’ve recently updated to Jaws 19, although my issue may not have anything to do with that.

 

I also had problems with Google Chrome crashing, so I restored the settings, as had been suggested in a help forum.

 

Now, however, any of the shortcuts on my desktop to sites just take me to the main Google Chrome page.

 

I have tried deleting and creating new shortcuts, but no changes.  I also tried checking the checkbox on the shortcut creation dialogue that says to open in a window, still no changes.

 

I’ve tried the various On Startup checkboxes, still no changes.

 

Does anyone have ideas for me?  As it is now, I have to type in the total url and can no longer use shortcuts.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Glenn / Lenny
 

The way I do it is to copy the link in a browser, by doing alt + D and copy.
Then I make a copy of the chrome shortcut via the applications key, it will have the same name but with (2) with it.
Then I do alt + enter on that new shortcut, and in the path field, I press the end key and a space and paste
So this puts the path to chrome a space and the URL.
Then I exit and on the shortcut, I press F2 and rename it.
It was much more to explain it than it really takes to do all this.
Maybe there is a shorter way, but this is the steps Google used to offer a few years back.
Glenn

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Would you please give the steps you used in Chrome to create a web page desktop icon?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Good morning;

perhaps you can give the steps you take to create a web desktop shortcut. I just created one in chrome, and had no problem using the shortcut to get to the web page.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Hello, All,

 

I’ve recently updated to Jaws 19, although my issue may not have anything to do with that.

 

I also had problems with Google Chrome crashing, so I restored the settings, as had been suggested in a help forum.

 

Now, however, any of the shortcuts on my desktop to sites just take me to the main Google Chrome page.

 

I have tried deleting and creating new shortcuts, but no changes.  I also tried checking the checkbox on the shortcut creation dialogue that says to open in a window, still no changes.

 

I’ve tried the various On Startup checkboxes, still no changes.

 

Does anyone have ideas for me?  As it is now, I have to type in the total url and can no longer use shortcuts.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Judy Jones
 

Hi, Vicky,

 

While on the web page for which I want to make the shortcut, I went into Settings, then More Tools, then entered on Add Shortcut.  I entered again to send it to the desktop.

 

This is what I usually do.  Some of my shortcuts were already there from the days when I was using Internet Explorer, and I had created some new ones with Google Chrome before.  However, this problem arose after resetting mhy Chrome settings.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Would you please give the steps you used in Chrome to create a web page desktop icon?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Good morning;

perhaps you can give the steps you take to create a web desktop shortcut. I just created one in chrome, and had no problem using the shortcut to get to the web page.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Hello, All,

 

I’ve recently updated to Jaws 19, although my issue may not have anything to do with that.

 

I also had problems with Google Chrome crashing, so I restored the settings, as had been suggested in a help forum.

 

Now, however, any of the shortcuts on my desktop to sites just take me to the main Google Chrome page.

 

I have tried deleting and creating new shortcuts, but no changes.  I also tried checking the checkbox on the shortcut creation dialogue that says to open in a window, still no changes.

 

I’ve tried the various On Startup checkboxes, still no changes.

 

Does anyone have ideas for me?  As it is now, I have to type in the total url and can no longer use shortcuts.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Vicky Vaughan
 

Would you please give the steps you used in Chrome to create a web page desktop icon?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Good morning;

perhaps you can give the steps you take to create a web desktop shortcut. I just created one in chrome, and had no problem using the shortcut to get to the web page.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Web site shortcuts on desktop.

 

Hello, All,

 

I’ve recently updated to Jaws 19, although my issue may not have anything to do with that.

 

I also had problems with Google Chrome crashing, so I restored the settings, as had been suggested in a help forum.

 

Now, however, any of the shortcuts on my desktop to sites just take me to the main Google Chrome page.

 

I have tried deleting and creating new shortcuts, but no changes.  I also tried checking the checkbox on the shortcut creation dialogue that says to open in a window, still no changes.

 

I’ve tried the various On Startup checkboxes, still no changes.

 

Does anyone have ideas for me?  As it is now, I have to type in the total url and can no longer use shortcuts.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

JM Casey
 

Yeah, that’s unfortunate – I really don’t know and don’t think I’ve ever experienced this. I’m only an occasional Chrome user, still.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: August 16, 2019 10:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

It occurs only in ‘say all.” Unfortunately, since the problem occurs only in “say all,” I can’t copy a line to demonstrate. But the example I gave of a number followed by the five letters in “space” should give you an idea.

 

The guy I spoke to at FS on Tuesday said he would escalate the issue, but when I called this afternoon, there was no record of his having done so. It got worse at FS today, as I’ll detail in a post tomorrow.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

Not me, so far, but I wonder, is this only happening with ‘say all”?

Say all is something I hardly ever use unless I walk away from the computer and just have my bluetooth headphones on. It may seem anitquated or slow but I normally just arrow through. Now that I have my braille display I just advance at leisure. Anyway, not suggesting you do this, but I was just wondering if, when you focus on individual lines, the extra stuff is still read. Maybe you could copy out some of these lines so we can see what the gibberish actually looks like? That might help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: August 13, 2019 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I’ve made no changes overnight to my system, and yet this morning, all of a sudden, JAWS has started interrupting “say all” with frequent bursts of gibberish. For example, it just now verbalized “617 s p a c e” before resuming reading regular text. When I quote a phrase like that, it might not seem like much, but these interruptions are very distracting, in part because it takes me several listens to interpret what’s being said.

 

I first experienced it today on the New York Times website and figured the Times had made yet one more accessibility-challenging website update. However, it’s happening on the second website I’ve visited, one that requires a password to enter.

 

I’m using the latest release of JAWS 2019 along with Windows 10 and, again, Chrome. I’ve rebooted twice to make sure all applications are in synch.

 

My workaround is to copy Website text to Notepad, but I don’t want to have to take this extra step every time.

 

Anyone else encountering this annoyance?

Re: Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

JM Casey
 

I don’t know about a fascination, but it’s good for removing the clutter from articles, particularly on certain sites. Yes, it’s for passive reading, not clicking around on the  web – I don’t think it was ever intended to be used constantly.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: August 16, 2019 10:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I don’t really understand the fascination with reader mode. It gets grumpy when you interrupt to check you’ve heard something right, you can’t go back and forth between windows, and clicking on a link within an article disrupts it. Reader mode is for sitting back and passively listening.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

Apparently, chrome is *getting* a reader mode, at least according to an article I found from April of this year. Until then though, you may be able to find an extension to do this. Someone who uses Chrome more than I do (I’m 90% a firefox user still) might want to chime in.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 13, 2019 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I haven't, but you could try using the sites with FireFox and use F9 to put it in reader mode.

If Chrome has a reader mode, I would like to know how to invoke it.

Glenn

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 8:03 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I’ve made no changes overnight to my system, and yet this morning, all of a sudden, JAWS has started interrupting “say all” with frequent bursts of gibberish. For example, it just now verbalized “617 s p a c e” before resuming reading regular text. When I quote a phrase like that, it might not seem like much, but these interruptions are very distracting, in part because it takes me several listens to interpret what’s being said.

 

I first experienced it today on the New York Times website and figured the Times had made yet one more accessibility-challenging website update. However, it’s happening on the second website I’ve visited, one that requires a password to enter.

 

I’m using the latest release of JAWS 2019 along with Windows 10 and, again, Chrome. I’ve rebooted twice to make sure all applications are in synch.

 

My workaround is to copy Website text to Notepad, but I don’t want to have to take this extra step every time.

 

Anyone else encountering this annoyance?

Re: Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

JM Casey
 

F9 in firefox.

Unless I’m mistaken, Chrome doesn’t have one built-in, yet, at least not in the desktop version, but it’s coming. I believe there’s at least one extension for it though that I’ve seen people talka bout here or elsewhere.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: August 16, 2019 10:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

How do you turn this new reader mode on even? This is the first I hear of it.

On 8/16/2019 10:31 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I don’t really understand the fascination with reader mode. It gets grumpy when you interrupt to check you’ve heard something right, you can’t go back and forth between windows, and clicking on a link within an article disrupts it. Reader mode is for sitting back and passively listening.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

Apparently, chrome is *getting* a reader mode, at least according to an article I found from April of this year. Until then though, you may be able to find an extension to do this. Someone who uses Chrome more than I do (I’m 90% a firefox user still) might want to chime in.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 13, 2019 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I haven't, but you could try using the sites with FireFox and use F9 to put it in reader mode.

If Chrome has a reader mode, I would like to know how to invoke it.

Glenn

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 8:03 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I’ve made no changes overnight to my system, and yet this morning, all of a sudden, JAWS has started interrupting “say all” with frequent bursts of gibberish. For example, it just now verbalized “617 s p a c e” before resuming reading regular text. When I quote a phrase like that, it might not seem like much, but these interruptions are very distracting, in part because it takes me several listens to interpret what’s being said.

 

I first experienced it today on the New York Times website and figured the Times had made yet one more accessibility-challenging website update. However, it’s happening on the second website I’ve visited, one that requires a password to enter.

 

I’m using the latest release of JAWS 2019 along with Windows 10 and, again, Chrome. I’ve rebooted twice to make sure all applications are in synch.

 

My workaround is to copy Website text to Notepad, but I don’t want to have to take this extra step every time.

 

Anyone else encountering this annoyance?

 

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Re: JAWS randomly adding 't' at the end of words

Ann Byrne
 

Thanks. It isn't very important. I made no changes to the computer after the JAWS update on Wednesday, but the extra 't' appeared then. it isn't in the text, just in the voice. And I know how to ignore it. I figure either I will reinstall JAWS and hope that fixes it, or wait a while and see waht happens next. I was just curious if I were the only one to have this particular enhancement. (LOL)

At 01:28 PM 8/17/2019, you wrote:
No, but let us try and narrow down the problem a bit.
You say JAWS adds these letters. DO you mean that the letters are not
actually present, but JAWS is making the hard "t" sound? If you look at
individual words, I take it, going character by character, there are no
extra letters.
What about synth? Could the synth be responsible for this? Try changing to a
different one and see if the problem persists.
Does this happen in all programmes? Only in documents you create? On web
pages?




-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: August 17, 2019 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS randomly adding 't' at the end of words

JAWS randomly adds 't' following the final 's' of most words. Thus 'words"
becomes "wordst", "thus" becomes "thust", and "becomes" turns into
"becomest". Has anyone else experienced this?





Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

JM Casey
 

Hi David.

 

Yes, I do use tab and shift-tab a lot in th is programme. It’s far from my favourite way to go about things, but it *mostly* works. Sometimes, though, pressing the various buttons seems to give no feedback at all. For example, yesterday I did a scan and found several items to be quarantined. I wanted to export the report to a file so I could read it more thoroughly, but the expected dialogue box simply did not appear, or, more probably, simply wasn’t read. When I did quarantine the items, I was presented with a dialogue with “yes” and “no” options, but nothing I was able to do showed me what else was in the dialogue, IE “click yes to restart your pC now” / “malwarebytes has made changes that require a restart”. I had to guess that that’s what it was, since, you know, it’s the logical next step after making the changes to the registry. But it was a frustrating moment, not being able to read that text, either by using insert-b, the jaws or touch cursor, etc.

 

Still, I wouldn’t give up this programme; malwarebytes is totally invaluable.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: August 17, 2019 11:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

When using MalwareBytes the tab and shift-tab keys are your friends. Navigating with tab moves from one item to the next. Normally, the tab key is used to move to what we call actionable items, meaning that you move to things that you can interact with, such as a button, edit field, combo box, etc. MalwareBytes does this but it also uses the tab and shift-tab keys to move to text which is informational only. On a Web site this is something that I would normally flag as a violation because it could prove to be frustrating for keyboard-only users, even those users who aren't using screen readers. However, with MalwareBytes it seems to work and pressing tab or shift-tab is the secret to successfully navigate the program. As an example, while you are performing a scan the tab key moves to items, such as the number of items which have been scanned, the number of threats which were detected, etc.

The tab which is currently selected no longer identifies its state, an issue which I reported to them a while back. As an example, if the Scan tab has been selected you should, ideally, hear JAWS say "scan tab, selected" but the word "selected" is not announced.

 

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified: 2019 WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 8/16/2019 3:15 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I recommend persevering with malwarebytes despite a somewhat annoying interface. It’s certainly usable, if not the most accessible thing out there. The thing is, it is a really good programme and the people behind it really know their stuff. It has saved my butt on at least three or four occasions, or at least helped me deal with obnoxious unwanted crap on my system.

Only thing is, like many programmes of its type, you should always make sure you understand a little of what you are getting rid of, when it flags stuff. Sometimes it will flag something like a change you made to the registry (either manually or through some other programme) that you actually want to keep/is actually wanted. You have to understand what kind of stuff MB flags and why. For instance, I replaced my task manager with Process Explorer some time back. Malwarebytes thinks this is a potential hack and so offers to remove the registry change.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: August 16, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

What about for windows 7? Malware Bites doesn't seem real accessible but I do need a good spyware program.

 

 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:24 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.

Stanley


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Re: JAWS randomly adding 't' at the end of words

Glenn / Lenny
 

I've noticed this in the "to:" field of WLM when I am putting in a cell number for sending a text, if I stop filling it out hoping it will auto-fill the rest of the contact, it does not put the rest in, and there is a character like a P or T that I cannot find, so I delete it all and type out the entire thing.
Glenn

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From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:28 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS randomly adding 't' at the end of words

No, but let us try and narrow down the problem a bit.
You say JAWS adds these letters. DO you mean that the letters are not
actually present, but JAWS is making the hard "t" sound? If you look at
individual words, I take it, going character by character, there are no
extra letters.
What about synth? Could the synth be responsible for this? Try changing to a
different one and see if the problem persists.
Does this happen in all programmes? Only in documents you create? On web
pages?




-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: August 17, 2019 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS randomly adding 't' at the end of words

JAWS randomly adds 't' following the final 's' of most words. Thus 'words"
becomes "wordst", "thus" becomes "thust", and "becomes" turns into
"becomest". Has anyone else experienced this?





Re: admin notice

David Ferrin
 

Please in the future be mindful as to who or where your message is being directed.

-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] admin notice

sorry. its easy to go off the deep end. many times i respond to messages but
forget which blog i am on before i send them.
or i was going to send the message to the sender but forgot to change the email
address.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] admin notice


Obviously some members believe that no complaining about FS or whatever the
current company name is right now does not apply to them, only to other people.

I am instituting a new policy that people who start such threads will be kicked
the first time and if they return and do it again then they will be gone.

This is no longer enjoyable to run this list and see people learning and
helping each other out because there is the constant threat of somebody getting
a bug in their shorts and the bashing starts all over.

Adrian has been removed, if anybody wants to join him feel free to leave.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have
preferred.

Re: JAWS randomly adding 't' at the end of words

JM Casey
 

No, but let us try and narrow down the problem a bit.
You say JAWS adds these letters. DO you mean that the letters are not
actually present, but JAWS is making the hard "t" sound? If you look at
individual words, I take it, going character by character, there are no
extra letters.
What about synth? Could the synth be responsible for this? Try changing to a
different one and see if the problem persists.
Does this happen in all programmes? Only in documents you create? On web
pages?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: August 17, 2019 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS randomly adding 't' at the end of words

JAWS randomly adds 't' following the final 's' of most words. Thus 'words"
becomes "wordst", "thus" becomes "thust", and "becomes" turns into
"becomest". Has anyone else experienced this?

Re: admin notice

netbat66
 

sorry. its easy to go off the deep end. many times i respond to messages but forget which blog i am on before i send them.
or i was going to send the message to the sender but forgot to change the email address.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] admin notice


Obviously some members believe that no complaining about FS or whatever the current company name is right now does not apply to them, only to other people.

I am instituting a new policy that people who start such threads will be kicked the first time and if they return and do it again then they will be gone.

This is no longer enjoyable to run this list and see people learning and helping each other out because there is the constant threat of somebody getting a bug in their shorts and the bashing starts all over.

Adrian has been removed, if anybody wants to join him feel free to leave.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.