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pinteresrrt

KMD <kmd823@...>
 

wondering if other jaws users find pinterest less than blind user friendly.


Re: low battery warning

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I don’t know about an announcement, but you should be able to configure a system sound for this if one isn’t there already.

Try looking in sound themes.

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dwight Johnson
Sent: July 28, 2018 5:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] low battery warning

 

Hello:

 

 

I have an HP Envy with jaws 14 and windows 7.  Before I replaced the battery when power was down to 15% I would get an announcement.  Now that I have a new battery I get no warning and everything goes off before I realize that I need the power cord.    Can someone please tell me how to get the announcement back?

Thanks,

 

Dwight Johnson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Editing cells in Excel 2016

Annette Carr
 

Hi Al,

 

Yes, I have seen this exact thing that you have described.  It always happens when the formula is long, and intermittent with all other cells.  When it happens, I do the following:

 

  1. F2 to edit the cell
  2. Control home to get to begin of the cell contents.
  3. Shift+Control+End to select all of the cell content.  Note, you can try Control+A instead of steps 2 and 3, but I have found inconsistencies with its use.
  4. Paste the contents into a NotePad file.
  5. Edit the information.
  6. Copy the informtion from the NotePad.
  7. Delete the contents of the cell from within the cell or outside the edit mode.
  8. Make sure you  are inside the blank cell.  Use F2 if necessary.
  9. Paste the contents from the NotePad file into the cell.

 

Lengthy process, but you can get the job done.

 

HTH,

Annette

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:27 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List <jaws-users-list@groups.IO>
Subject: [jaws-users] Editing cells in Excel 2016

 

Hello,

 

Using Win 1803 and latest Jaws 2018 I run into a strange situation when trying to edit cell contents in excel within MS Office 2016

Whether the cell contains text or a formula, some cells can be edited by dressing F2 and then arrowing back and forth making necessary corrections. However, other cells doing the same only reads the entire cell contents when arrowing either way. No pattern or consistency to this behavior. Have others experienced this too? Any work arounds?

 

Best,

Al

 

 


low battery warning

Dwight Johnson
 

Hello:

 

 

I have an HP Envy with jaws 14 and windows 7.  Before I replaced the battery when power was down to 15% I would get an announcement.  Now that I have a new battery I get no warning and everything goes off before I realize that I need the power cord.    Can someone please tell me how to get the announcement back?

Thanks,

 

Dwight Johnson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi James,
 
Dude, I'll tell you, there's not an easy or consistent way of assigning TXT files to be opened with HJ Pad!  Here's the file path of where the HJ Pad executable is, if you want to navigate to it using the, Open With, option from the context menu.
 
C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\16.0\HJPAD.EXE
 
Good luck!
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

Hi Mike,
 
Yes.  I want to get HJPad to open all text files.  I like its spell-checker.
 
I am using Jaws 16 and 17 with Windows 7.
 
Man! This is eating my lunch. *smile
 
James B
 
 
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?
 
Hi James,
 
Are you wanting to open all .TXT files with HJ Pad instead of Notepad?  Also, what operating system and version of Jaws are you running?

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:50 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

Hi all,
 
The subject line kind of got it all.
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 


Re: How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

James Bentley
 

Hi Mike,
 
Yes.  I want to get HJPad to open all text files.  I like its spell-checker.
 
I am using Jaws 16 and 17 with Windows 7.
 
Man! This is eating my lunch. *smile
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?
 
Hi James,
 
Are you wanting to open all .TXT files with HJ Pad instead of Notepad?  Also, what operating system and version of Jaws are you running?

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:50 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

Hi all,
 
The subject line kind of got it all.
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 


About the New Skype

Dan Kerstetter
 

Hi all.

 

Is anyone else having trouble getting shortcut keys to work using the new skype with Windows 7 64 bit?  Is there a fix or is this just a quirk?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dan K

 

 

For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio.

 

http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio

 

 


Re: How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi James,
 
Are you wanting to open all .TXT files with HJ Pad instead of Notepad?  Also, what operating system and version of Jaws are you running?

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:50 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

Hi all,
 
The subject line kind of got it all.
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 


Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

Steve
 

They've done that for several years, on many of their laptop models. 
 
You circumvented it by using a separate keyboard. 
Otherwise, as mentioned, there is a way to go into the bias and change the function key to their normal functions, and use the function key modifier to do the ancillary things like turn display brightness up and down, increase and decrease volume, turn on a secdond monitor, etc.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

When did HP do that?  I had an HP pc and that wasn’t the case.  I did, however, use a regular keyboard pluged into the labpto, though.  There is no way I’d be holding the function key everytime I needed to close a document.

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

That can easily be change by going in to bios, choosing set-up, choosing action keys and changing it so the function keys behave as we need them to as screen reader users. You will require sighted assistance as there is no speech support in the bios, but I’ve talked many people who claim to be computer illiterate through the process, and it’s quite simple. I could not tolerate having to hold the FN key every time I needed to execute a command with function keys, it would drive me batty.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of lyacks@...
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hi,

 

You might also try the “FN” key plus the alt plus f4. I have to use the fn key on all of my function keys because, in their infinant wisdom, HP assigned all the function keys, when pressed by themselves, to other commands. HTH. Linda Yacks

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle


facebook question and are my messages getting to the list

anna vimini <annav@...>
 

Thanks Rick

Re: [jaws-users] Facebook question and are my messages getting to the list
Yes, Anna, your messages are making it.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "anna vimini"
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To:
<jaws-users-list@groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:11 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Facebook question and are my messages getting to the
list


Hi all,

are my messages getting to the list

I have a face book question How can I delete read notifications on face
book that I do not want any more

Thanks in advance


Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

chris judge
 

It doesn’t work with lanovo either. Dell seems to be the only one that has this option.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of lyacks@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 5:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

I tried that and it didn’t work for hp. Thanks anyway. I know someone with a del that I can share this with.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 10:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Most of the HP laptops I’ve seen in many years are set this way. I know dell does it as well, but with dell laptops you can toggle the function key setting by holding the FN key and pressing escape. Not sure if this works for HP.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 11:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

When did HP do that?  I had an HP pc and that wasn’t the case.  I did, however, use a regular keyboard pluged into the labpto, though.  There is no way I’d be holding the function key everytime I needed to close a document.

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

That can easily be change by going in to bios, choosing set-up, choosing action keys and changing it so the function keys behave as we need them to as screen reader users. You will require sighted assistance as there is no speech support in the bios, but I’ve talked many people who claim to be computer illiterate through the process, and it’s quite simple. I could not tolerate having to hold the FN key every time I needed to execute a command with function keys, it would drive me batty.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of lyacks@...
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hi,

 

You might also try the “FN” key plus the alt plus f4. I have to use the fn key on all of my function keys because, in their infinant wisdom, HP assigned all the function keys, when pressed by themselves, to other commands. HTH. Linda Yacks

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle


Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

chris judge
 

Yes, it’s quite simple to do with a bit of sighted help.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: July 27, 2018 2:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

There should be some way, possibly in bios, which would require sighted assistance, to fix the function keys so that they always have the function of – function keys. You should investigate this to make your life easier.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: July 27, 2018 11:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Oh, and I will add that there are many times where the FN key isn’t required, but I can’t figure out the rhyme or reason.  For example, I can be in some situations where Shift F10 opens the context menu and other on the same laptop where it will require me to add the FN key to invoke the context menu.   What’s most challenging for me is that I often forget the FN key when I do a particular JAWS command and end up turning off my wireless connection,  

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

It’s not only when closing a document. Say, for instance, you want to invoke the links list command, insert f7. You would have to hold the fn key, then press insert f7. Not too difficult if the good lord had had the insight to give us three hands, but such is not the case lol.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 11:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

When did HP do that?  I had an HP pc and that wasn’t the case.  I did, however, use a regular keyboard pluged into the labpto, though.  There is no way I’d be holding the function key everytime I needed to close a document.

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

That can easily be change by going in to bios, choosing set-up, choosing action keys and changing it so the function keys behave as we need them to as screen reader users. You will require sighted assistance as there is no speech support in the bios, but I’ve talked many people who claim to be computer illiterate through the process, and it’s quite simple. I could not tolerate having to hold the FN key every time I needed to execute a command with function keys, it would drive me batty.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of lyacks@...
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hi,

 

You might also try the “FN” key plus the alt plus f4. I have to use the fn key on all of my function keys because, in their infinant wisdom, HP assigned all the function keys, when pressed by themselves, to other commands. HTH. Linda Yacks

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle



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JAWS keeps stopping during "say all"

Adrian Spratt
 

Windows 10, Office 2016, IE11 and Chrome. Can anyone suggest why JAWS stops after each sentence when I have “say all” set to sentence or after a line or two when I have “say all” set to “line without pauses”?

This problem has been building up all week, beginning with JAWS stopping reading by character and word in MS Word 2016 after a period of time and also preventing me from setting up replies to email. These problems I could overcome by closing the relevant program and JAWS and reopening them, but I was having to do so with increasing frequency.

I spoke to VFO tech support several times yesterday. In fact, the “say all” problem began only after they looked at my system. However, as far as I can tell, all they did was disable certain programs that they were right to stop running in the background.

“Say all” now malfunctions in the same way in MS Word, IE11, Chrome and Outlook messages.

I constantly refresh with JAWS key+escape.

I’ve done two JAWS repairs.

I have 16 gigs of RAM. My system is new as of last Friday.

My tech expert will be available in half an hour and then not for the rest of the weekend. However, he isn’t a JAWS expert.

I’d appreciate any pointers you could give me or that I could give him.

Thanks.


How do I associate all text files with HJ Pad?

James Bentley
 

Hi all,
 
The subject line kind of got it all.
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 


Windows 10 Narrator Latest Guide

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 



Get started with Narrator

Content provided by Microsoft

Applies to: Windows 10


Narrator is a screen-reading app built into Windows 10. This guide describes how to use Narrator with the Windows 10 April 2018 Update on desktop PC’s, providing you with enough info to start exploring Windows, using apps, and browsing the web. It’s written for those who use a screen reader regularly.

 

To use this guide, choose a link from the following table of contents. When you’re done reading a chapter or appendix, select the Back button in your browser to return to this page and select another chapter. There are also links at the end of each chapter and appendix to go to the next chapter or return to this table of contents.

 

Following the table of contents on this page, there is a section about what's new in Narrator in the Windows 10 April 2018 Update.

 

Note

This content is available online. This document was up to date as of July 17, 2018. You can also download a previous version in braille (US English non-UEB grade 2 braille). To obtain additional languages or grades, contact the Disability Answer Desk.

 

Table of contents


Chapter

What's in it

Chapter 1: Introducing Narrator

An overview of Narrator including how to start and stop it.

Chapter 2: Learning Narrator basics

How to get around the screen, find and open apps, change what Narrator reads, and adjust speech rate and volume.

Chapter 3: Using scan mode

How to use scan mode to navigate apps, email, and the web.

Chapter 4: Reading text

How to read and get info about text, such as font, text color, and punctuation.

Chapter 5: Using Narrator with touch

How to use Narrator with touch, including basic gestures.

Chapter 6: Customizing Narrator

How to change how Narrator starts, determine how much feedback you hear when typing, change Narrator commands, and use third-party text-to-speech (TTS) software.

Chapter 7: Using Narrator with braille

How to use Narrator with a refreshable braille display.

Appendix A: Supported languages

A list of supported languages in Narrator.

Appendix B: Narrator keyboard commands and touch gestures

A list of Narrator keyboard commands and touch gestures.

Appendix C: TTS voices

A list of the text-to-speech (TTS) voices available in Narrator.

Appendix D: Supported braille displays

A list of braille displays supported by Narrator.

 

What's new

We've made several improvements to Narrator in the Windows 10 April 2018 Update.

 

A fresh look for settings

Ease of Access settings in Windows are now easier to discover, learn and use. Settings are grouped by ability (vision, hearing, and interaction), with the most frequently used settings listed first. To get directly to Narrator settings, press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N.

 

To learn more about customizing Narrator, see Chapter 6: Customizing Narrator.

 

Easier navigation in Windows apps

Heading and landmark navigation is available in some Windows 10 apps, such as the Settings app and the Weather app, with more apps coming soon.

 

For more info about heading and landmark navigation, see Chapter 2: Learning Narrator basics and Chapter 3: Using scan mode.

 

Better reading by character

When reading by character, Narrator now includes the ICAO phonetic alphabet pronunciation to help differentiate between letter such as “b” and “p” by saying words like “bravo” and “papa.”

 

For more info about reading text, see Chapter 4: Reading text.

 

New audio settings

You can now choose your audio output device with Narrator. Press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings, and then choose your device under Select Narrator audio output device.

 

To learn more about customizing Narrator, see Chapter 6: Customizing Narrator.

 

Improved responsiveness

Narrator is more responsive in the latest update. When you press any key on your keyboard, Narrator will now immediately silence speech. Narrator also no longer announces navigational keys as you type, but only announces alphanumeric keys and punctuation.

 

To learn more about customizing Narrator, see Chapter 6: Customizing Narrator.

 

Braille improvements

It’s now easier to switch between different braille drivers if you use more than one screen reader. To do this, press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings, and select an option under Change your braille display driver.

 

You can now also use your serial braille display before you sign in to your PC. To do this, select the Use current settings before sign-in option in Narrator settings after you’ve installed braille and selected your preferred settings.

 

For more info, see Chapter 7: Using Narrator with braille.

 

Safe mode and Narrator cursor support

Narrator now works when in safe mode. For additional assistance working in safe mode, contact the Disability Answer Desk.

 

The Narrator cursor and system focus are now synced by default.


 

Chapter 1: Introducing Narrator

 

This chapter provides an overview of Narrator and how to start and stop it.

 

Narrator lets you use your PC without a display or mouse to complete common tasks if you’re blind or have low vision. It reads and interacts with things on the screen, like text and buttons. Use Narrator to read and write email, browse the internet, and work with documents.

 

Specific commands let you navigate Windows, the web, and apps, as well as get info about the area of the PC you're in. Navigation is available using headings, links, landmarks, and more. You can read text (including punctuation) by page, paragraph, line, word, and character as well as determine characteristics like font and text color. Efficiently review tables with row and column navigation.

 

Narrator also has a navigation and reading mode called Scan Mode. Use it to get around Windows 10 using just the up and down arrows on your keyboard. You can also use a braille display to navigate your PC and read text.

 

Finally, you can adjust the speaking rate, pitch, and volume of the voice that Narrator uses as well as install some third-party text-to-speech voices.

 

Three ways to start and stop Narrator

·         Press Windows logo key + Ctrl + Enter together to start Narrator. Press these keys again to stop Narrator. If you're using a previous version of Windows, press Windows logo key + Enter together to start and stop Narrator. On many keyboards, the Windows logo key is located on the bottom row of keys, to the left or right of the Alt key.

·         Press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings, and then use the toggle under Narrator to turn it on.

·         On the lower-right corner of the sign-in screen, select the Ease of Access button (or press Windows logo key U) and then choose Narrator.

 

Customize Narrator to start automatically before or after you sign in to your PC

1.       Press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings.

2.       To start Narrator automatically after you sign in, select Start Narrator after sign-in.

To start Narrator automatically before sign in for all users, select Start Narrator before sign-in for everyone.

Chapter 2: Learning Narrator basics

This chapter explains Narrator keyboard navigation. This includes how to get around the screen, find and open apps, and change what Narrator reads. It also explains the basic details of adjusting Narrator speech rate, volume, and how to stop speech.

 

Basic keyboard navigation in Windows

Tab, cursor, and function keys

In Windows, use the Tab key or the cursor keys (also known as arrow keys) to move around apps and web pages. Some keyboards also have function keys located above the number keys at the top of the keyboard. Function keys can be used for navigation in some apps. On certain keyboards, some function keys are programmed to do hardware-related actions such as adjusting volume. If your keyboard has an Fn (function) key, you must press the Fn key and the function key together to use the function key for other actions.

 

Input learning

To hear the command for each key on the keyboard, press Caps lock + 1 to turn on input learning. When Input learning is turned on, Narrator tells you the name of the key and the associated command when you press it. To turn off input learning, press Caps lock + 1 twice. Input learning also works with braille and touch input.

 

Caps lock key

When Narrator is turned on, press the Caps lock key (also known as the Narrator key) together with other keys to navigate and interact with things on the screen.

 

You can lock the Narrator key in Narrator settings so you don’t have to press the Caps lock key for each command. With Narrator turned on, open Narrator settings on the taskbar, select General, and then select Lock the Narrator key so you don’t have to press them for each command (Caps Lock). You can also press Caps lock + Z to lock the Narrator key.

 

Stop Narrator from reading

To stop Narrator from reading at any time, press the Ctrl key or choose another command.

 

Windows keyboard shortcuts

Windows and Windows apps have keyboard shortcuts that you can use alongside Narrator commands. For example, press the Windows logo key to open the Start menu, or, to open action center, press the Windows logo keyA.

 

For a list of the keyboard shortcuts you can use in Windows, see Keyboard shortcuts in Windows.

For a list of keyboard shortcuts in Windows apps, see Keyboard shortcuts in apps.

 

For a list of keyboard shortcuts in other Windows assistive technologies, see Windows keyboard shortcuts for accessibility.

 

Narrator views

To go beyond basic keyboard commands using the Tab, cursor, and function keys, use Narrator views.

 

Narrator views let you to change how Narrator navigates apps and webpages, and includes the following: items, characters, words, lines, paragraphs, links, headings, tables, landmarks, suggestions, and form fields.

 

Items is the default view when you start Narrator. An item can be anything from a button in an app, a link, or text in a webpage. To move by item, press Caps lock + Left arrow or Caps lock + Right arrow. When you find an item that you want to activate, press Caps lock + Enter. To have Narrator read the current item press Caps lock + D. To have Narrator repeat the last phrase spoken, press Caps lock + V.

 

To change Narrator views, press Caps lock + Up arrow or Caps lock + Down arrow.

 

Note

Not all views are always available. For example, views such as lines, paragraphs, and tables are typically available only when text is available to read, such as in webpages or emails.

 

Suggestions

Suggestions are available when you enter information in a text box in some apps and parts of Windows. For example, when you enter text in the search box after pressing the Windows logo key, suggestions are provided as you type. When a suggestion is available, Narrator indicates it by playing a sound and voice message.

 

When a suggestion is available, press Caps lock + Down arrow to change to Suggestions view, and then Caps lock + Left arrow or Caps lock + Right arrow to move to the suggestion, and then Caps Lock + Enter to select it. Or, press the Up arrow key and Down arrow key to move through suggestions and press Enter to select one.

 

Landmarks

Landmarks are groups of items that are available in some apps and webpages. In Windows 10, Microsoft Store and Weather apps also have landmarks. Some Windows features like the Start menu also have landmarks. To see if a landmark is available, press Caps lock + Up arrow to switch to landmarks view, and then use Caps lock + Left arrow or Caps lock + Right arrow to move through landmarks.

 

Get around apps and web pages

Find and open apps

To quickly find an app in Windows 10, press the Windows logo key on your keyboard to open the Start menu and place focus in the search box. Type the name of the app that you’re looking for and press the Enter key to open it.

 

Switch between apps

To switch between open apps on your PC, hold down the Alt key and then press the Tab key. Narrator will speak the name of open apps as you cycle through them. When you find the app that you want to use, release both keys.

 

If at any time you need to know which app or Window has focus, press Caps lock + T to read the title of the window that has focus. To read the title and contents of the window that has focus, press Caps lock + W.

 

Quickly explore content with scan mode

When you open an app or webpage, get a quick overview using scan mode, a reading and navigation mode in Narrator. To turn on scan mode, press Caps lock + Spacebar. Then use the following commands to move by heading, landmark, or link.

 

 Press this key

 To do this

 H or Shift + H

 Move to the next or previous heading

 D or Shift + D

 Move to the next or previous landmark

 K or Shift + K

 Move to the next or previous link

 

To read content in more detail, use Up arrow key and the Down arrow key to move to the next or previous paragraph of text. Or, press Caps lock + R and Narrator will begin reading continuously from your current location.

 

For more info about how to use scan mode, including a list of additional commands, see Chapter 3: Using scan mode.

 

For more info on reading text, see Chapter 4: Reading text.

 

Change speech rate and volume

You can change the volume or how fast or slow Narrator speaks. To change Narrator volume, press Caps lock + Page up to increase the volume, or Caps lock + Page down to decrease the volume.

 

To change the rate at which Narrator speaks, press Caps lock + Plus (+) and Caps lock + Minus (-).

 

Give feedback

Your feedback helps make Narrator better. When Narrator is turned on, press Caps lock + E to open the Feedback Hub to provide feedback about Narrator. You can also leave comments on the Microsoft Accessibility User Voice website. Additionally, for technical support for Narrator or other Microsoft assistive technology, contact the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk.

 

If you want to provide Microsoft with additional diagnostic and performance data when you press Caps lock + E, press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings, and then select the toggle under Help make Narrator better and then restart Narrator.

Chapter 3: Using scan mode

This chapter describes a navigation and reading mode called scan mode. Scan mode lets you navigate apps, email, and webpages using the arrow keys along with common keyboard shortcuts to read text and jump directly to headings, links, tables, and landmarks.

 

Scan mode basics

To turn scan mode on and off, press Caps lock + Spacebar.

 

When turned on, use the Up arrow key and Down arrow key to navigate apps and webpages. Press the spacebar to activate an item that you want to use, such as a button in an app, a link in a webpage, or a text box.

 

Scan mode turns on automatically when you use Microsoft Edge to browse the web. It also turns on automatically when you open any Windows app where you turned it on before.

 

If you turn scan mode off for an app, it will remain off for that app until you turn it on again.

 

Navigation

When scan mode is turned on, use the following keys to navigate apps and webpages.

 

Press this key

To do this

Up arrow and Down arrow

Move to the next or previous paragraph of text or control in an app or webpage

Note

Scan mode automatically turns off in edit fields so you can enter text. Press up or down arrow again to leave the edit field and resume scan mode.

 

Right arrow and Left arrow

Move to the next or previous character in an app or webpage

Spacebar

Activate an item that you want to use, such as a button or text box

Enter

If supported, do secondary action on an item

Home and End

Move to the start or end of a line of text in an app or webpage

Ctrl + Home and Ctrl + End

Move to the beginning or end of text

Ctrl + Left arrow and Ctrl + Right arrow

Move to the next or previous word

Ctrl + Up arrow and Ctrl + Down arrow

Move to the next or previous line

B or Shift + B

Move to the next or previous button

C or Shift + C

Move to the next or previous combo box

D or Shift + D

Move to the next or previous landmark

E or Shift + E

Move to the next or previous edit field

 

Note

Scan mode won’t turn off automatically when navigating by edit field. Narrator will tell you to press space to edit if you want into type into the edit field.

 

F or Shift + F

Move to the next or previous form field

H or Shift + H

Move to the next or previous heading

I or Shift + I

Move to the next or previous item

K or Shift + K

Move to the next or previous link

R or Shift + R

Move to the next or previous radio button

X or Shift + X

Move to the next or previous check box

T or Shift + T

Move to the next or previous table

P or Shift + P

Move to the next of previous paragraph

Number keys 1 to 9 or Shift + number keys 1 to 9

Move to the next or previous heading level 1 through 9

 

Scan mode will turn off when you switch to a different app. You'll hear a sound from your PC indicating that scan mode is turned off. Press Caps lock + Spacebar to turn it on again.

 

Working with tables

Scan mode can help make moving through tables easier and supports common keys found in other screen readers for table navigation. Press T or Shift + T to locate a table using scan mode and then use the following keys to interact with the table.


 

 

Press this key

To do this

Ctrl+ Alt + Right arrow or Left arrow

Move to the next or previous cell in a row

Ctrl+ Alt + Up arrow or Down arrow

Move to the next or previous cell in a column

Caps Lock + F5

Announce location in table

Caps Lock + F9

Announce column header

Caps Lock + F10

Announce row header

Caps Lock + F7

Read the current table column from start to finish

Caps Lock + F8

Read the current table row from start to finish

 

You can also use these keys to interact with tables when scan mode is turned off.


 

Chapter 4: Reading text

This chapter explains how to read text with Narrator and how to get info about text, such as font, text color, and punctuation.

 

There are several ways to read text using Narrator. The first and simplest way is to use the arrow keys to navigate text if you’re interacting with a document in a word processor, such as Microsoft Word.

 

You can also use Scan Mode to read text. To turn on Scan Mode, press Caps lock + Spacebar. Then use the up and down arrow keys to read by paragraph and the left and right arrow keys to read by character. To learn more about Scan Mode, see Chapter 3: Using Scan Mode.

 

When you want more control over what text you read, Narrator provides a series of text reading commands to help navigate and read text.

  • To read a complete document or webpage from the beginning, press Caps lock + H.
  • To read a document from the beginning to the current cursor position, press Caps lock + Right bracket (]).
  • To read continuously from the current location in a document or webpage, press Caps lock + M.
  • To move the Narrator cursor and text insertion point to the beginning of a document or webpage, press Caps lock + Y.
  • To move the Narrator cursor and text insertion point to the end of a document, press Caps lock + B.

 

Narrator also provides commands to help navigate and read text in apps.

  • To read everything in an app, press Caps lock + W.
  • To read continuously from the current location, press Caps lock + R.
  • To move the cursor to the beginning of an app, press Caps lock + Home.
  • To move the cursor to the end of an app, press Caps lock + End.

 

Work with paragraphs, lines, words, and characters

Narrator provides ways to read text by page, paragraph, line, word, and character.

 


 

To read by page

  • To read the current page, press Caps lock + Ctrl + U.
  • To read the next page, press Caps lock + U.
  • To read the previous page, press Caps lock + Shift + U.

 

To read by paragraph

  • To read the current paragraph, press Caps lock + Ctrl + I.
  • To read the next paragraph, press Caps lock + I.
  • To read the previous paragraph, press Caps lock + Shift + I.

 

To read by line of text

  • To read the current line, press Caps lock + Ctrl + O.
  • To read the next line, Caps lock + O.
  • To read the previous line, Caps lock + Shift + O.

 

To read by word

  • To read the current word, press Caps lock + Ctrl + P.
  • To read the next word, press Caps lock + P.
  • To read the previous word, press Caps lock + Shift + P.

 

To read by character

  • To read the current character, press Caps lock + Ctrl + Left bracket ([).
  • To read the next character, press Caps lock + Left bracket ([).
  • To read the previous character, press Caps lock + Shift + Left bracket ([).

 

Tips

  • As a best practice, use these text reading commands and Scan Mode together. For example, turn on Scan Mode and use the up and down arrow keys to read by paragraph and Caps lock + O or Caps lock + Shift + O to read by line. If you want to reread the current line, press Caps lock + Ctrl + O. To reread the current paragraph, press Caps lock + Ctrl + I.
  • If an app doesn’t support text reading commands, Narrator will say “not on explorable text.” In this case, use Scan Mode to navigate and read text.

 

Get more detail on text

Narrator provides different levels of detail about the characteristics of text, known as verbosity. To change the level of verbosity, press Caps lock + A until you hear the level that you want.

  • Verbosity level 0. Hear only text.
  • Verbosity level 1. Hear basics such as heading levels, and errors in documents such as spelling and grammar. This is the default level.
  • Verbosity level 2. Hear formatting frequently found on webpages and in email, such as bullet styles, text bold, underline, italic, subscript, superscript, and color.
  • Verbosity level 3. Hear additional annotations, such as document headers and footers.
  • Verbosity level 4. Hear extended formatting, such as font name, size, and other list styles.
  • Verbosity level 5. Hear layout and animation information, such as the type of animation, whether a paragraph starts with an indent or not, and more.

Notes

  • You can also press Caps lock + Ctrl + Plus sign (+) or Caps lock + Ctrl + Minus sign (-) to select different verbosity levels.
  • To check advanced information about text at any time, press Caps lock + 0 (Zero).

 

Get details on formatting

Narrator provides details about formatting, such as font name, font size, and text alignment. To hear formatting attributes, press Caps lock + F. To hear the next group of formatting attributes, press Caps lock + F again. To hear the previous group of formatting attributes, press Shift + Caps lock + F.

 

Formatting information is separated into the following groups:

  • Font information. Font name, weight, size, italic, underline, underline color, strikethrough, background color, foreground color.
  • Advanced font information. Hyperlink, style, bullet style, subscript, superscript, capitalization style, outline style, overline color, language.
  • Object color and outline information. Fill type (none, color, gradient, picture, or pattern), fill color, outline color, outline thickness.
  • Paragraph spacing Information. Line spacing, before paragraph spacing, after paragraph spacing.
  • Page margin information. Top margin, bottom margin, leading margin, trailing margin.
  • Alignment information Horizontal text alignment, text flow direction, indentation first line, indentation leading, indentation trailing.
  • Visual effects information. Animation style, visual effects (reflection, glow, soft edges, and bevel).
  • Object layout information. Center point, size, rotation.
  • Annotation information. Annotations such as spelling and grammar suggestions and comments.

 

Hear punctuation

Narrator gives you control over how much punctuation you hear when reading text. Press Caps lock+ Alt + Plus sign (+) or Caps lock+ Alt + Minus sign (-) until you hear the punctuation mode you want to use: Default, Math, Some, Most, or All.

  • Default. Hear little to no punctuation. Natural pauses will indicate items such as commas and periods.
  • Math. Hear most mathematical symbols.
  • Some. Hear most conversational punctuation, such as commas and periods.
  • Most. Hear additional symbols, such as parentheses.
  • All. Hear all punctuation, including all special symbols.

 

Read text in other languages

When reading text in a different language, Narrator will automatically select the text-to-speech (TTS) voice for that language if it's installed. To learn more about installing additional TTS voices, see Appendix C: TTS voices.

 

If the TTS voice for a language isn’t installed, Narrator will state the name of the language and read the text using the default TTS voice.


 

Chapter 5: Using Narrator with touch

This chapter provides details about how to use Narrator with touch on supported desktop Windows PCs, and describes some basic Windows touch gestures.

 

Starting and stopping Narrator

To start Narrator on a Windows device that doesn’t have a keyboard, press the Start button and the Volume Up button together on your device. Press these buttons again to stop Narrator.

 

Touch gestures

You can use gestures to interact with Narrator and your device.

 

To explore and hear items on a screen, drag one finger around the screen. When you hear an item that you want to use, double-tap the screen with one finger to activate it. To move through items on the screen, flick left and right with one finger.

 

If you want to move by characters, words, lines, or links, flick up or down to change the Narrator view. For example, to hear an item spelled out, flick up until you hear Narrator say “characters”. Then flick left and right to move through that item a letter at a time.

 

The following are important gestures to help you get started:

  • To change Narrator views, flick up and down with one finger.
  • To scroll, flick up, down, left or right with two fingers.
  • To show context menus, double-tap with two fingers.
  • To change verbosity, tap once with three fingers.
  • To read continuously from the current position, swipe down with three fingers. 
  • To tab forward or backward, flick left or right with three fingers.
  • To show the Narrator command list, triple tap with four fingers.

For a complete list of touch gestures, see Appendix B: Narrator keyboard commands and touch gestures.

 

Additional touch gestures for Windows

The following gestures are also available in Windows 10:

  • To open Action Center, swipe in from the right side of the screen.
  • To open Task View to switch between apps and multiple desktops, swipe in from the left side of the screen.

 

Typing by touch

When in an editing area, such as a text box, a touch keyboard will appear in the lower part of the screen and Narrator will play a sound to indicate that a keyboard has appeared. To enter text, double-tap the characters you want to enter.

 

To enter text more quickly, change a Narrator setting to enter characters as soon as you lift your finger off the character. To turn on this option, select the Start button, then select Settings, select Ease of Access, and then select Narrator. Use the toggle under Activate keys on touch keyboard when I lift my finger off the keyboard to turn on the setting.


 

Chapter 6: Customizing Narrator

This chapter outlines how to customize Narrator to best meet your needs, including changing how Narrator starts, how much feedback you hear when typing, whether the audio from other apps is decreased when Narrator is running, and changing Narrator commands to keyboard shortcuts of your choice. The chapter also provides details about how to use third-party text-to-speech (TTS) software to add more voices to Narrator.

 

Most options are in Narrator settings. To find them, open Narrator settings on the taskbar when Narrator is turned on.

 

Settings are separated into four categories: general settings, navigation settings, voice settings, and command settings.

 

Note

  • Some settings are also available in Windows 10 Settings—press the Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to see them.
  • If you want everyone to use your settings before sign-in, press the Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings and then select Use current settings before sign-in. This is recommended if you want to use a serial braille display before sign-in.

 

General settings

  • Turn on the shortcut to launch Narrator. Start and stop Narrator using the Windows logo key + CtrlEnter on a keyboard, or the Windows button + Volume up button on a touch device.
  • Lock the Narrator key (Caps lock). You don’t have to press the Narrator key (Caps lock) to enter a command. For example, to move to the next link, press L instead of Caps lock + L.
  • Hear characters as you type. Characters are announced immediately after you type them. This setting can be toggled by pressing Caps lock + F12.
  • Hear words you type. Typed words are announced immediately after you type them.
  • Read out voiced Narrator errors. Narrator announces errors such as “no next landmark” or “no next item.”
  • Highlight cursor. The Narrator cursor is highlighted with a blue focus box.
  • Play audio cues. Narrator plays a sound when you do things like perform a Narrator command or when suggestions are available.
  • Read UI hints. Narrator announces how to interact with items.
  • Lower the volume of other apps. The audio volume from other apps is lowered so that you can hear Narrator.
  • Retain notifications. Notifications can be retained from 30 seconds to 10 minutes.

 

Navigation settings

  • Read and interact with the screen using the mouse. When this is turned on, Narrator reads what is under the mouse cursor. Use Numeric keypad to move the mouse.
  • Activate keys on the touch keyboard when you lift your finger. Characters are entered as soon as you lift your finger off the touch keyboard.
  • Narrator cursor follows keyboard focus. When this is turned on, the Narrator cursor and the system cursor will be synchronized when possible.
  • Enable the text insertion point to follow the Narrator cursor. When this is turned on, Narrator will move the text insertion point when navigating by views such as characters and words.
  • Select the Narrator cursor movement mode. Two modes are available: normal and advanced. Normal mode allows Narrator to move between various items such as links, tables, and other elements. Advanced mode lets you use the four arrow keys to move the Narrator cursor through a programmatic representation of an application.

 

Voice settings

  • Speed. Control the speed at which Narrator speaks.
  • Volume. Adjust the volume at which Narrator speaks.
  • Pitch. Adjust the pitch of Narrator voice.
  • Select a different voice. Choose from different available Narrator voices in your language.

 

Faster voices

Narrator voices average a maximum of approximately 400 words per minute. However, the following voices offer a rate of approximately 800 words per minute:

  • Microsoft David
  • Microsoft Zira
  • Microsoft Mark

 

Additional voices

Narrator can be used with SAPI 5-based speech synthesizers. Once installed, voices will appear in the list of voices for you to choose.

Here are some available options from third-party providers:

Note

These options are provided for informational purposes only. Microsoft does not endorse any particular third-party software, nor can it offer any support for their installation and use. For help with any of these products, please contact the original manufacturer.

 

Audio settings

Narrator also lets you choose your audio output device. Press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings, and then choose your device under Select Narrator audio output device.

 

Command settings

Customize Narrator keyboard shortcuts to allow for improved control and usability:

 

Customize a Narrator keyboard shortcut

  1. Choose the command to customize.
  2. Select Change command keyboard shortcut.
  3. In the Type a keyboard shortcut window, type the keyboard shortcut you want to use on your keyboard. Use any combination of modifier keys (Control, Shift, Alt, Caps lock, or the Windows logo key) together with a non-modifier key. Use function and numeric keypad keys without any modifiers.

Select Restore default to return all commands back to their default settings.

 

Hear different levels of context

Narrator can provide different levels of context as you navigate your PC. You control how much context is heard, and if context is read before or after the current item.

 

To change the amount of context you hear, and whether context is heard before or after the current item, select the Start button, then select Settings, select Ease of Access, and select Narrator. Under Amount of contextual reading for controls and buttons, choose from the following options:

  • No context reading
  • Play sounds only
  • Read only immediate context
  • Read immediate context name and type
  • Read full context of new control
  • Read full context of both the old control and the new control

Under Order of contextual reading for controls and buttons, choose whether you want to hear context before or after the current item.

 

You can also use the following keyboard shortcuts:

  • To hear the current context at any time, press Caps lock + forward slash (/).
  • To change the level of context that’s read, press Caps lock + Alt + forward slash (/).
  • To change whether context is read before or after the current item, press Caps lock + Ctrl + forward slash (/).

 

Chapter 7: Using Narrator with braille

This chapter provides information about how to use a braille display with Narrator. It includes info about how to install braille on your PC, navigate your PC, and read text.

Narrator supports braille displays from several manufacturers. To learn more about what braille displays are supported, including specific key commands for each display, see Appendix D: Supported Braille Displays.

 

Note

Narrator braille is currently in beta, and your feedback can help make it better. When Narrator is running, press Caps lock + E to open the Feedback Hub. You can also leave comments on the Microsoft Accessibility User Voice website. For help with Narrator braille, contact the Disability Answer Desk.

 

Install braille

Narrator works with braille displays that use a USB or serial port. To use your braille display with Narrator, download and install braille:

  1. Press the Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings.
  2. Under Braille (beta), select Download and install braille. (This will take some time. Windows will also ask if you’re sure that you want to allow Windows to make changes to your PC.)
  3. When download and installation is complete, select Enable braille.
  4. Next, add your braille display. Select Add a braille display and then choose your braille display manufacturer and connection type (USB or serial port).

Using your braille display with other screen readers

If you already use your braille display with another screen reader, or Narrator doesn’t work immediately with your braille display, you may need to change the driver Windows uses to communicate with your display. To do this, press Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings, and select an option under Change your braille display driver. The driver used by Narrator is preceded by "(Narrator)."

 

Note

You only need to change your driver if a different driver is installed for your braille display. If you’re not sure, contact your braille display manufacturer.

 

Uninstalling braille

To remove Narrator braille from your PC:

  1. Press Windows logo key + I to open Settings.
  2. Select Apps, choose Apps & features, and then select Manage optional features.
  3. Select Accessibility – Braille support, and then choose Uninstall.

 

Change braille settings

Different settings let you customize how you use braille with Narrator. To get to them, press the Windows logo key + Ctrl + N to open Narrator settings. Then, under Braille (beta) choose from the following options:

  • Language for input and output
  • Table type for input and output (grade 1, grade 2, or 8 dot computer braille)
  • Notification timeout
  • How the cursor is displayed and if you want the cursor to blink on your braille display

If you want to use a serial braille display before you sign-in to your PC, select Use current settings before sign-in after choosing your preferred settings.

 

Braille keyboard commands

If your braille display has a braille keyboard, you can use it to enter text or do the following commands. The command to toggle the keyboard is Space + Dots 1-3.

 

Braille Dots

Narrator command

1-2-3-4 or 1-2-3-4-7

Go to the next or previous paragraph

1-2-5 or 1-2-5-7

Go to the next or previous heading

2-3-4-5 or 2-3-4-5-7

Go to the next or previous table

1-3 or 1-3-7

Go to the next or previous link

2-4 or 2-4-7

Go to the next or previous item

1-4-5 or 1-4-5-7

Go to the next or previous landmark

1-2-4 or 1-2-4-7

Go to the next or previous form field

1-2 or 1-2-7

Go to the next or previous button

1-4 or 1-4-7

Go to the next or previous combo box

1-5 or 1-5-7

Go to the next or previous edit field

1-2-3-5 or 1-2-3-5-7

Go to the next or previous radio button

1-3-4-6 or 1-3-4-6-7

Go to the next or previous check box

1-6 or 1-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 1

1-2-6 or 1-2-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 2

1-4-6 or 1-4-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 3

1-4-5-6 or 1-4-5-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 4

1-5-6 or 1-5-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 5

1-2-4-6 or 1-2-4-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 6

1-2-4-5-6 or 1-2-4-5-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 7

1-2-5-6 or 1-2-5-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 8

2-4-6 or 2-4-6-7

Go to the next or previous heading level 9

Space + 1-2-3

Turn on input learning, press twice to turn off

 

 

Use the following commands for keyboard input.

 

Braille Dots

Keyboard input

Space + 4-5

Tab key

Space + 1-2

Shift + Tab key

Space + 2-3-4-5

Alt + Tab key

Space + 2-4-5-6

Windows logo key 

Space + 1-2-3-5

Windows logo key + Tab key

Space + Routing Key 1 through 12

F1 through F12 keys

7

Backspace key

8

Enter key

Space + 2-6

Escape key

Space + 3

Cursor left key

Space + 6

Cursor right key

Space + 1

Cursor up key

Space + 4

Cursor down key

Space + 2-3

Page up key

Space + 5-6

Page down key

Space + 2

Home key

Space + 5

End key

Space + 3-5

Insert key

Space + 2-5-6

Delete key

 

The following commands allow you to enter and hold a modifier key followed by another letter or key.

 

Braille Dots

Keyboard input

Space + 1-8

Hold Windows logo key 

Space + 2-8

Hold Alt key

Space + 3-8

Hold Ctrl key

Space + 4-8

Hold Shift key

Space + 5-8

Hold AltGr key

Space + 6-8

Hold Caps lock key

Space + 7-8

Release all modifier keys

Using touch cursors on your braille display

If your braille display has touch cursors you can use them to do certain actions.

 

Working with interactive elements

When the displayed content is an interactive element, tap any touch cursor above that content to do its primary action. Tap two adjacent touch cursors above the content to do its secondary action if one is available.

 

When the displayed content displayed isn’t text, tap two nonadjacent touch cursors above the content to display a context menu if one is available.

 

Editing text

Use the following touch cursor commands when editing text:

  • To move the text insertion point to a specific character, tap the touch cursor above the corresponding cell. You can also tap the touch cursor above a cell representing a character or its preceding modifier (such as a capital or a number) to do this as well. Caret representation will be on the cell after the modifier.
  • To move the text insertion point to the last character on the display, tap the touch cursor above a blank cell at the end of the display.
  • To do a secondary action, tap on two adjacent touch cursors on a corresponding character.
  • To show a context menu, tap two nonadjacent touch cursors above the character closest to the center of the two nonadjacent touch cursors.

Note

Some displays don’t support simultaneous pressing of two touch cursors. Therefore, there are additional commands for each display. To learn more about specific key commands for each display, see Appendix D: Supported Braille Displays.


 

Appendix A: Supported languages

Narrator supports the following languages in the Windows 10 April 2018 Update:

  • Arabic (Egypt, Saudi Arabia)
  • Bulgarian
  • Catalan 
  • Cantonese (Traditional)
  • Chinese (Simplified and Traditional)
  • Croatian
  • Czech
  • Danish (Denmark)
  • Dutch (Netherlands and Belgium)
  • English (United States, United Kingdom, India, and Ireland)
  • Finnish (Finland)
  • French (France, Canada, Switzerland)
  • Italian
  • German (Germany, Austria, and Switzerland)
  • Greek
  • Hebrew
  • Hindi
  • Hungarian
  • Indonesian
  • Japanese
  • Korean
  • Malay
  • Norwegian (Norway)
  • Polish
  • Portuguese (Brazil, Portugal)
  • Romanian
  • Russian
  • Slovak
  • Slovenian
  • Spanish (Spain and Mexico)
  • Swedish (Sweden)
  • Tamil
  • Thai
  • Turkish (Turkey)
  • Vietnamese

 

Appendix B: Narrator keyboard commands and touch gestures

This appendix lists all keyboard commands and touch gestures supported by Narrator in the Windows 10 Creators Update.

 

To see a list of all other keyboard shortcuts in Windows, see Keyboard shortcuts in Windows.

 

To see a list of keyboard shortcuts in Windows apps, see Keyboard shortcuts in apps.

 

Narrator keyboard shortcuts

Press this key

To do this

Windows logo key + Ctrl + Enter

Start or exit Narrator

Caps lock + Esc

Exit Narrator

Windows logo key + Ctrl + N

Open Narrator settings

Caps lock + 1

Turn on input learning

Caps lock + M

Start reading document

Ctrl

Stop reading

Caps lock + Spacebar

Start or exit scan mode

Caps lock + Right arrow

Move to next item

Caps lock + Left arrow

Move to previous item

Caps lock + Up or Down arrow

Change view

Caps lock + F1

Show Narrator commands list

Caps lock + F2

Show commands for current item

Caps lock + Enter

Do primary action

Caps lock + Shift + Enter

Open search mode

Caps lock + A

Change verbosity mode

Caps lock + Ctrl + Plus (+)

Increase verbosity

Caps lock + Ctrl + Minus (-)

Decrease verbosity

Caps lock + Alt + Plus (+) or Minus (-)

Change punctuation mode

Caps lock + Z

Lock the Narrator key (Caps Lock) so you don't have to press it for every keyboard shortcut

Caps lock + X

Have Narrator ignore the next keyboard shortcut you use

Caps lock + F12

Turn keystroke reading off or on

Caps lock + Shift + F12

Turn on developer mode

Caps lock + V

Repeat phrase

Caps lock + Page up or Page down

Increase or decrease voice volume

Caps lock + Plus (+) or Minus (-)

Increase or decrease voice speed

Caps lock + D

Read item

Caps lock + Shift + D

Describe an image using an online service

Caps lock + F or Caps lock + Shift + F

Read next or previous group of formatting info

Caps lock + S

Read item spelled out

Caps lock + W

Read window

Caps lock + R

Start reading

Caps lock + Num lock

Turn mouse mode on or off

Caps lock + Q

Move to last item in the containing area

Caps lock + G

Move Narrator cursor to system cursor

Caps lock + T

Read current window title

Caps lock + tilde (~)

Set focus to item

Caps lock + Backspace

Go back one item

Caps lock + Insert

Jump to linked item

Caps lock + F10

Read current row header

Caps lock + F9

Read current column header

Caps lock + F8

Read current row

Caps lock + F7

Read current column

Caps lock + F5

Read current row and column location

Caps lock + F6

Jump to table cell

Caps lock + Shift + F6

Jump to cell contents

Caps lock + F3

Jump to next cell in current row

Caps lock + Shift + F3

Jump to previous cell in current row

Caps lock + F4

Jump to next cell in current column

Caps lock + Shift + F4

Jump to previous cell in current column

Caps lock + Close square bracket (])

Read text from start to cursor

Caps lock + zero (0)

Get advanced info about text

Caps lock + H

Read document

Caps lock + Ctrl + U

Read current page

Caps lock + U

Read next page

Caps lock + Shift + U

Read previous page

Caps lock + Ctrl + I

Read current paragraph

Caps lock + I

Read next paragraph

Caps lock + Shift + I

Read previous paragraph

Caps lock + Ctrl + O

Read current line

Caps lock + O

Read next line

Caps lock + Shift + O

Read previous line

Caps lock + Ctrl + P

Read current word

Caps lock + P

Read next word

Caps lock + Shift + P

Read previous word

Caps lock + Ctrl + Open square bracket ([)

Read current character

Caps lock + Open square bracket ([)

Read next character

Caps lock + Shift + Open square bracket ([)

Read previous character

Caps lock + Y

Move to beginning of text

Caps lock + B

Move to end of text

Caps lock + J

Jump to next heading

Caps lock + Shift + J

Jump to previous heading

Caps lock + K

Jump to next table

Caps lock + Shift + K

Jump to previous table

Caps lock + L

Jump to next link

Caps lock + Shift + L

Jump to previous link

Caps lock + C

Read current date and time

Press Caps lock twice in quick succession

Turn Caps lock on or off

Caps lock + E

Give feedback

Caps lock + Ctrl + Up arrow

Go to parent (only when Structural Navigation is provided by the app)

Caps lock + Ctrl + Right arrow

Go to next sibling (only when Structural Navigation is provided by the app)

Caps lock + Ctrl + Left arrow

Go to previous sibling (only when Structural Navigation is provided by the app)

Caps lock + Ctrl + Down arrow

Go to first child (only when Structural Navigation is provided by the app)

Caps lock + N

Move to main landmark

 Caps lock + Forward slash (/)

Read context

 Caps lock + Ctrl + Forward slash (/)

Change whether context is read before or after the current item

 Caps lock + Alt + Forward slash (/)

Change how much context is read

Caps lock + Home

Move to the first item in a window

Caps lock + End

Move to the last item in a window

 

Scan mode keyboard commands

To turn scan mode on and off, press Caps lock + Spacebar. For a full list of scan mode keyboard shortcuts, see Chapter 3: Using Scan Mode.

 

Narrator touch gestures

Use this gesture

 To do this

Touch or drag a single finger

Read what’s under your finger

Double-tap or hold with one finger and then tap anywhere on the screen with a second finger

Activate primary action

Triple-tap or hold with one finger and then double-tap anywhere on the screen with a second finger

Activate secondary action

Hold with one finger and then tap anywhere on the screen with two fingers

Start dragging or extra key options

Flick left or right with one finger

Move to next or previous item

Flick up or down with one finger

Change view

Tap once with two fingers

Stop Narrator from reading

Tap once with three fingers

Change verbosity mode

Tap once with four fingers

Show Narrator commands for the current item

Double-tap with two fingers

Show context menu

Double-tap with three fingers

Read text attributes

Double-tap with four fingers

Open search mode

Tap three times with four fingers

Show all Narrator commands

Swipe left, right, up, or down with two fingers

Scroll

Swipe left or right with three fingers

Tab forward or backward

Swipe up with three fingers

Read current window

Swipe down with three fingers

Start reading on explorable text

Swipe up or down with four fingers

Turn semantic zoom on or off where supported

Swipe left or right with four fingers

Move Narrator cursor to beginning or end of unit

 


 

Appendix C: TTS voices

The following text-to-speech (TTS) voices are available in the Windows 10 April 2018 Update.

 

Add a TTS voice to your PC

To use one of these voices, add it to your PC:

  1. Select the Start button, then select Settings, choose Time & language, and then select Region & language.
  2. Select Add a language and search for the language you want to add. Choose the language you want to add from the list of search results. When you choose a language, you’ll be taken back to the Region & language settings page.
  3. Select the language you just added, and select Options.
  4. Under Download language pack, select Download. Then, under Speech, select Download.

When both downloads are done, go to Settings , choose Ease of Access, and select Narrator. Under Choose a voice, select the voice you want to use.

 

TTS voices in the Windows 10 April 2018 Update

Language, country, or region

Male voice name

Female voice name

Arabic

Not applicable

Hoda

Arabic (Saudi Arabia)

Naayf

Not applicable

Bulgarian

Ivan

Not applicable

Catalan

Not applicable

Herena

Chinese (Simplified)

Kangkang

Huihui, Yaoyao

Cantonese (Traditional, Hong Kong SAR)

Danny

Tracy

Chinese (Traditional, Taiwan)

Zhiwei

Yating, Hanhan

Croatian

Matej

Not applicable

Czech (Czech Republic)

Vit

Not applicable

Danish

Not applicable

Helle

Dutch

Frank

Not applicable

English (Australia)

James

Catherine

English (Canada)

Richard

Linda

English (Great Britain)

George

Hazel, Susan

English (India)

Ravi

Heera

English (Ireland)

Shaun

Not applicable

English (United States)

David, Mark

Zira

Finnish

Not applicable

Heidi

Flemish (Belgian Dutch)

Bart

Not applicable

French (Canada)

Claude

Caroline

French (France)

Paul

Hortence, Julie

German (Germany)

Stefan

Hedda, Katja

German (Switzerland)

Karsten

Not applicable

Greek

Stefanos

Not applicable

Hebrew

Asaf

Not applicable

Hindi (India)

Hemant

Kalpana

Hungarian (Hungary)

Szabolcs

Not applicable

Indonesian (Indonesia)

Andika

Not applicable

Italian

Cosimo

Elsa

Japanese

Ichiro

Ayumi, Haruka

Malay

Rizwan

Not applicable

Norwegian

Jon

Not applicable

Polish (Poland)

Adam

Paulina

Portuguese (Brazil)

Daniel

Maria

Portuguese (Portugal)

Not applicable

Helia

Romanian (Romania)

Andrei

Not applicable

Russian (Russia)

Pavel

Irina

Slovak (Slovakia)

Filip

Not applicable

Slovenian

Lado

Not applicable

Korean

Not applicable

Heami

Spanish (Spain)

Pablo

Helena, Laura

Spanish (Mexico)

Raul

Sabina

Swedish

Bengt

Not applicable

Tamil

Valluvar

Not applicable

Thai (Thailand)

Pattara

Not applicable

Turkish

Tolga

Not applicable

Vietnamese

An

Not applicable

 


 

Appendix D: Supported braille displays

Narrator supports the following braille displays. To learn more about braille support in Narrator, see Chapter 7: Using Narrator with braille.

 

Choose a link in the table below to see supported commands for supported displays.

 

Manufacturer

Supported displays

Albatross

  • All models

Alva

  • ABT [3nn] and Delphi [4nn] (large)
  • ABT [3nn] and Delphi [4nn] (small)
  • BC640, BC624
  • Optelec Easylink 12 Touch
  • Satellite [5nn] (large)
  • Satellite [5nn] (small)
  • Voyager Protocol Converter

B2G

  • All models

Baum

  • All models (default)
  • All models (with Vario keys)
  • VarioConnect / HWG BrailleConnect
  • Conny
  • DM 80 Plus
  • Inka
  • Orbit Reader
  • Vario Pro
  • Pronto!
  • PocketVario
  • APH Refreshabraille
  • SuperVario / HWG Brailliant
  • VarioUltra
  • Vario 40
  • Vario 80

BrailleLite

  • BrailleLite 18
  • BrailleLite 40, M20, and M40

BrailleMemo

  • BrailleMemo Pocket
  • BrailleMemo Smart

BrailleNote

  • All models

Cebra

  • All models

CombiBraille

  • All models

EcoBraille

  • All models

EuroBraille

  • AzerBraille, Clio, NoteBraille, PupiBraille, Scriba
  • Esys 80
  • Esys 40, 64
  • Esys 12, 24
  • Esytime
  • Iris

Freedom Scientific

  • Focus 1 and Focus 2 40
  • Focus 2 80
  • Focus Blue
  • PAC Mate

HandyTech

  • Active Braille 40
  • Actilino
  • Active Star 40
  • Basic Braille
  • Bookworm
  • Braillino
  • Braille Star 40
  • Braille Star 80
  • Connect Braille 40
  • Easy Braille
  • Modular Connect 88
  • Modular
  • Modular Evolution 64
  • Modular Evolution 88
  • Braille Wave

Hedo

  • MobiLine
  • ProfiLine

HIMS

  • Smart Beetle
  • Braille Edge
  • Braille Sense with Two Scroll Keys
  • Braille Sense with QWERTY keyboard
  • Braille Sense with Four Scroll Keys
  • SyncBraille

HumanWare

  • Brailliant BI (32, 40)
  • Brailliant B 80

Iris

  • With braille keyboard
  • With PC keyboard

MDV

  • Unrecognized Model (all keys defined)
  • Models with Function Keys
  • Models with Function Keys and Status Cells
  • Models with a Keyboard

Metec

  • All models
  • BD I with 3 Keys and Status Cells
  • BD I with 6 Keys
  • BD I with 6 Keys and Status Cells

MiniBraille

  • All models

MultiBraille

  • All models

NinePoint

  • All models

Papenmeier

  • BrailleX 2D Lite (plus)
  • BrailleX 2D Screen Soft
  • BrailleX Compact 486
  • BrailleX Compact/Tiny
  • BrailleX EL2D-40
  • BrailleX EL2D-66
  • BrailleX EL2D-80
  • BrailleX EL2D-80s
  • BrailleX EL40c
  • BrailleX EL40 P
  • BrailleX EL40s
  • BrailleX EL60c
  • BrailleX EL66s
  • BrailleX EL70s
  • BrailleX EL80c
  • BrailleX EL80-II
  • BrailleX EL 80
  • BrailleX EL80s
  • BrailleX Elba 20
  • BrailleX Elba 32
  • BrailleX Elba (Trio 20)
  • BrailleX Elba (Trio 32)
  • BrailleX IB 80 CR Soft
  • BrailleX Live
  • BrailleX Trio

Pegasus

  • All models

Seika

  • Braille Displays
  • Note Takers

TSI

  • Navigator 20
  • Navigator 40
  • Navigator 80
  • Power Braille 40
  • Power Braille 65
  • Power Braille 80

Voyager

  • All models
  • Braille Pen 2

 


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Re: External Hard Drive Formatting

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Yeah. But that would be for setting protected mode for the document, which is a feature within Microsoft Office. You need to alter the properties of the drive within windows (file explorer or command prompt).

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 8:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Just for confirmations sake, I opened one of these documents on my external drive, went to file, then options. The checkbox for opening in an uneditable format was not checked. As you said, WEIRD!

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:53 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

That’s certainly odd. You’re seeing every tab in the box except for the one that you need to do this. lol

You could use the context menu to run as administrator. Just arrow down until you hear the option. But you’ll have to do this every time until a better solution is found, probably.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Using the control tab keys, there is the shortcut, security, details, previous versions and general tabs.

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Are you sure?

It should be just to the right of the shortcut tab.

 

It’s probably better though to have your user account take ownership of the drive.

It’s a little bit complicated and I don’t have time to give instructions right now. I’ve only done this a few times and it’s a little tricky.

But I might be able to come back later if noone else chimes in.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Okay. I did as you suggested, and upon opening the properties, there is no compatibility tab. So... what next? Thanks for your help.

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:26 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Interesting. Well it doesn’t sound like protected mode, but something more connected with the operating system.

There are two factors that might be involved. File attributes or permissions. Essentially you need to take “ownership” of the drive, so you can modify the files on it.

 

You can try this. It might not be a permanent solution because it could potentially open you up to vulnerabilities. But if you don’t open a lot of macro enabled files from the Internet, you should be ok. There is probably a better way to solve this problem but it’s complicated and without looking at your system and heavy recourse to google it’d just be too much to explain over the list.

So try:

Go to your word shortcut, assuming you have one.

Hit alt-enter to open the properties.

Go to the compatibility tab.

Check the box that says “run this programme as an administrator”.

 

Now, every time you start Word, the “user account control” box will probbably open. But you can hit alt-y to say yes, and Word will open, and likely your documents will no longer say “read only”.

 

No guarantee that this will work, but try it.

There’s definitely a way around this that doesn’t involve formatting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

JM:

I am not sure. I have gone through all of the aspects for saving the documents, and none of them are set to read only. I can use the applications key, and there is an option to open the documents in read only. It is a real aggravation; because I can copy the file from the external to my documents folder on my lptop, edit it, and send it back. then upon opening the specific file, it will have the changes on it. Thanks for the reply.

 

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

When you say “read only”, do you mean the protected view in Word, or the file attributes themselves are set to read only?

 

You don’t need to keep anything on the drive. In fact when you format, everything will be deleted. Everything. You will be starting with a clean slate, as it were.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Afternoon all.

 

I have an IOmega External hard drive, and I have a question regarding it.

 

I have been having a problem with some of my documents. I can, using Word 13, create a document, save it to my documents folder, then copy it to my external. As soon as I do, it gets converted to a read only file. I spoke with Microsoft accessibility, and they thought the problem was solved, but not so. I spoke with a computer expert, and I was told to transfer all of the files/folders to another device, format the external, then re-transfer all materials back to the external, and that should solve the problem.

 

So, here is my question. Is there anything I need to keep on there before I format it? I never formatted the device; I just started using it out of the box. I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

 

Jerry


Re: External Hard Drive Formatting

JERRY MARTIN
 

Just for confirmations sake, I opened one of these documents on my external drive, went to file, then options. The checkbox for opening in an uneditable format was not checked. As you said, WEIRD!
 
 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting
 

That’s certainly odd. You’re seeing every tab in the box except for the one that you need to do this. lol

You could use the context menu to run as administrator. Just arrow down until you hear the option. But you’ll have to do this every time until a better solution is found, probably.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Using the control tab keys, there is the shortcut, security, details, previous versions and general tabs.

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:45 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Are you sure?

It should be just to the right of the shortcut tab.

 

It’s probably better though to have your user account take ownership of the drive.

It’s a little bit complicated and I don’t have time to give instructions right now. I’ve only done this a few times and it’s a little tricky.

But I might be able to come back later if noone else chimes in.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Okay. I did as you suggested, and upon opening the properties, there is no compatibility tab. So... what next? Thanks for your help.

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:26 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Interesting. Well it doesn’t sound like protected mode, but something more connected with the operating system.

There are two factors that might be involved. File attributes or permissions. Essentially you need to take “ownership” of the drive, so you can modify the files on it.

 

You can try this. It might not be a permanent solution because it could potentially open you up to vulnerabilities. But if you don’t open a lot of macro enabled files from the Internet, you should be ok. There is probably a better way to solve this problem but it’s complicated and without looking at your system and heavy recourse to google it’d just be too much to explain over the list.

So try:

Go to your word shortcut, assuming you have one.

Hit alt-enter to open the properties.

Go to the compatibility tab.

Check the box that says “run this programme as an administrator”.

 

Now, every time you start Word, the “user account control” box will probbably open. But you can hit alt-y to say yes, and Word will open, and likely your documents will no longer say “read only”.

 

No guarantee that this will work, but try it.

There’s definitely a way around this that doesn’t involve formatting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

JM:

I am not sure. I have gone through all of the aspects for saving the documents, and none of them are set to read only. I can use the applications key, and there is an option to open the documents in read only. It is a real aggravation; because I can copy the file from the external to my documents folder on my lptop, edit it, and send it back. then upon opening the specific file, it will have the changes on it. Thanks for the reply.

 

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:06 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

When you say “read only”, do you mean the protected view in Word, or the file attributes themselves are set to read only?

 

You don’t need to keep anything on the drive. In fact when you format, everything will be deleted. Everything. You will be starting with a clean slate, as it were.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Afternoon all.

 

I have an IOmega External hard drive, and I have a question regarding it.

 

I have been having a problem with some of my documents. I can, using Word 13, create a document, save it to my documents folder, then copy it to my external. As soon as I do, it gets converted to a read only file. I spoke with Microsoft accessibility, and they thought the problem was solved, but not so. I spoke with a computer expert, and I was told to transfer all of the files/folders to another device, format the external, then re-transfer all materials back to the external, and that should solve the problem.

 

So, here is my question. Is there anything I need to keep on there before I format it? I never formatted the device; I just started using it out of the box. I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

 

Jerry


Re: External Hard Drive Formatting

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That’s certainly odd. You’re seeing every tab in the box except for the one that you need to do this. lol

You could use the context menu to run as administrator. Just arrow down until you hear the option. But you’ll have to do this every time until a better solution is found, probably.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Using the control tab keys, there is the shortcut, security, details, previous versions and general tabs.

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Are you sure?

It should be just to the right of the shortcut tab.

 

It’s probably better though to have your user account take ownership of the drive.

It’s a little bit complicated and I don’t have time to give instructions right now. I’ve only done this a few times and it’s a little tricky.

But I might be able to come back later if noone else chimes in.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Okay. I did as you suggested, and upon opening the properties, there is no compatibility tab. So... what next? Thanks for your help.

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:26 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Interesting. Well it doesn’t sound like protected mode, but something more connected with the operating system.

There are two factors that might be involved. File attributes or permissions. Essentially you need to take “ownership” of the drive, so you can modify the files on it.

 

You can try this. It might not be a permanent solution because it could potentially open you up to vulnerabilities. But if you don’t open a lot of macro enabled files from the Internet, you should be ok. There is probably a better way to solve this problem but it’s complicated and without looking at your system and heavy recourse to google it’d just be too much to explain over the list.

So try:

Go to your word shortcut, assuming you have one.

Hit alt-enter to open the properties.

Go to the compatibility tab.

Check the box that says “run this programme as an administrator”.

 

Now, every time you start Word, the “user account control” box will probbably open. But you can hit alt-y to say yes, and Word will open, and likely your documents will no longer say “read only”.

 

No guarantee that this will work, but try it.

There’s definitely a way around this that doesn’t involve formatting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

JM:

I am not sure. I have gone through all of the aspects for saving the documents, and none of them are set to read only. I can use the applications key, and there is an option to open the documents in read only. It is a real aggravation; because I can copy the file from the external to my documents folder on my lptop, edit it, and send it back. then upon opening the specific file, it will have the changes on it. Thanks for the reply.

 

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

When you say “read only”, do you mean the protected view in Word, or the file attributes themselves are set to read only?

 

You don’t need to keep anything on the drive. In fact when you format, everything will be deleted. Everything. You will be starting with a clean slate, as it were.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Afternoon all.

 

I have an IOmega External hard drive, and I have a question regarding it.

 

I have been having a problem with some of my documents. I can, using Word 13, create a document, save it to my documents folder, then copy it to my external. As soon as I do, it gets converted to a read only file. I spoke with Microsoft accessibility, and they thought the problem was solved, but not so. I spoke with a computer expert, and I was told to transfer all of the files/folders to another device, format the external, then re-transfer all materials back to the external, and that should solve the problem.

 

So, here is my question. Is there anything I need to keep on there before I format it? I never formatted the device; I just started using it out of the box. I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

 

Jerry


Re: External Hard Drive Formatting

JERRY MARTIN
 

Using the control tab keys, there is the shortcut, security, details, previous versions and general tabs.
 
 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting
 

Are you sure?

It should be just to the right of the shortcut tab.

 

It’s probably better though to have your user account take ownership of the drive.

It’s a little bit complicated and I don’t have time to give instructions right now. I’ve only done this a few times and it’s a little tricky.

But I might be able to come back later if noone else chimes in.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Okay. I did as you suggested, and upon opening the properties, there is no compatibility tab. So... what next? Thanks for your help.

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:26 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Interesting. Well it doesn’t sound like protected mode, but something more connected with the operating system.

There are two factors that might be involved. File attributes or permissions. Essentially you need to take “ownership” of the drive, so you can modify the files on it.

 

You can try this. It might not be a permanent solution because it could potentially open you up to vulnerabilities. But if you don’t open a lot of macro enabled files from the Internet, you should be ok. There is probably a better way to solve this problem but it’s complicated and without looking at your system and heavy recourse to google it’d just be too much to explain over the list.

So try:

Go to your word shortcut, assuming you have one.

Hit alt-enter to open the properties.

Go to the compatibility tab.

Check the box that says “run this programme as an administrator”.

 

Now, every time you start Word, the “user account control” box will probbably open. But you can hit alt-y to say yes, and Word will open, and likely your documents will no longer say “read only”.

 

No guarantee that this will work, but try it.

There’s definitely a way around this that doesn’t involve formatting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

JM:

I am not sure. I have gone through all of the aspects for saving the documents, and none of them are set to read only. I can use the applications key, and there is an option to open the documents in read only. It is a real aggravation; because I can copy the file from the external to my documents folder on my lptop, edit it, and send it back. then upon opening the specific file, it will have the changes on it. Thanks for the reply.

 

 

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:06 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

When you say “read only”, do you mean the protected view in Word, or the file attributes themselves are set to read only?

 

You don’t need to keep anything on the drive. In fact when you format, everything will be deleted. Everything. You will be starting with a clean slate, as it were.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: July 27, 2018 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] External Hard Drive Formatting

 

Afternoon all.

 

I have an IOmega External hard drive, and I have a question regarding it.

 

I have been having a problem with some of my documents. I can, using Word 13, create a document, save it to my documents folder, then copy it to my external. As soon as I do, it gets converted to a read only file. I spoke with Microsoft accessibility, and they thought the problem was solved, but not so. I spoke with a computer expert, and I was told to transfer all of the files/folders to another device, format the external, then re-transfer all materials back to the external, and that should solve the problem.

 

So, here is my question. Is there anything I need to keep on there before I format it? I never formatted the device; I just started using it out of the box. I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

 

Jerry

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