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Re: how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

ratshtron <northstarr1950@...>
 

hmmm, kind-of tough! lol!


Legend has it that on Saturday 10/13/2018 05:37 PM, Rick Justice said:
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How did it taste? lol

----- Original Message -----
From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?


ooops and double oops, insert plus f3 is jaws find, face with foot in mouth!


Legend has it that on Saturday 10/13/2018 01:12 PM, Rick Justice said:
----------------------------------------
Hi Joanne,
The insert F3 keystroke is for the Jaws find, not the passthru.
The pass thru keystroke is insert plus 3, on the number row.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "joanne" <grandma1323@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:13 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?


I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have
links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I
thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you
do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I
go
to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3
after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link
work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key
after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo
effectively I'd appreciate it.

Joanne





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Re: how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

How did it taste? lol

----- Original Message -----
From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?


ooops and double oops, insert plus f3 is jaws find, face with foot in mouth!


Legend has it that on Saturday 10/13/2018 01:12 PM, Rick Justice said:
----------------------------------------
Hi Joanne,
The insert F3 keystroke is for the Jaws find, not the passthru.
The pass thru keystroke is insert plus 3, on the number row.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "joanne" <grandma1323@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:13 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?


I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have
links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I
thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you
do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I
go
to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3
after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link
work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key
after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo
effectively I'd appreciate it.

Joanne





----------------------------------------


Re: How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Jorge,
 
Okay, this is where I got the, Shift Tab, idea from what you said.

You said, "I thought, if you remove jaws from the system tray, you will gain that extra shift tab back, that you got rid of it in the first place, when you chose
to add jaws to the system tray."
 
Regardless, the only way anyone will know if one way works better than the other is to give them both a try.  Personally, I've found pluses & minuses using either setting.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

Hi Mister B. ,

Ok, have you tried alt escape to cycle around like alt tab in Win10?

 

Just to clear the air, I never mention using shift tab anytime LOL!  And is a perfference

I agree the classic theme is better in my case.

 

Adios big brother B.

 

 

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Jorge,

 

The difference I'm finding after switching to the classic style is you get the desktop back.  What I mean is let's say you have Notepad, Word, Firefox, & Dropbox all open, and you close all the mentioned windows.  With the default setting you land on an empty screen, so you have to invoke the Windows key + D, or M, keystroke to get back to the desktop.  Using the classic mode, after you close the previously mentioned windows you Alt + Tab and you're back on the desktop.  Depending on individual settings this could be different, but this is the difference on my personal computer.  Now, I'm not going to debate whether one is better than the other because whether I choose the Windows 10 default or the classic mode is  entirely my choice and noone elses.  Like I said in the original post, the tweak was only mentioned because I've read many people wanting the Alt + Tab back to the desktop option back, and this gives them that option.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: TheHangMan

Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Mike,

I been running W10, since MS offered the free download from W7 to W10 almost 4  years ago and I never had a problem with the alt tab cycle.

 

Most likely I miss understood the problem some people were having? Or they got a bad download.

Back in the beginning of W10, I had to download the media creation tool from FS and remove the jaws mirror drivers, so jaws would work better in W10, but now it’s smooth sailing!

I got rid of an extra alt tab, when I added jaws to the system tray, what I was trying to explain.

 

Take care, well back to scanning.

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Jorge,

 

We're talking about, Alt + Tab between running / open windows, not Shift + tab.  Anyways having Jaws in the system tray has nothing to do with the default way of, Alt + Tabbing, as opposed to the older way.  I know this all matter of personal preference, so the only reason I posted what i did was because I've read a lot of posts' of people from not only this list, but others, complaining that Alt + Tab didn't work very well in Windows 10 and were advised to use the Windows key + Tab  keystroke instead.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: TheHangMan

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Mike,

If, my memory is there:

I thought, if you remove jaws from the system tray, you will gain that extra shift tab back, that you got rid of it in the first place, when you chose to add jaws to the system tray.

 

And in your other inquery about removing the action center from the system tray, well if you can add you must be able to remove too.

 

putting the Jaws icon or  any icon on the notification area.

Windows key+I, for settings, tab one time.

Right arrow to, personalization, press enter, tab one time.

Down arrow to, Taskbar, press enter.

Tab until you hear to, Choose what icons appear on the taskbar link, press enter.

Tab across and select what icons you want on the system tray / notification bar, by selecting and checking it.

Close the window.

Now, go to the system tray and check all your system tray icons are there.

HTH,

 

,

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 10 Pro and Jaws latest.  Rick a fellow moderator told me about this quite some time back and it works great!  I came across this, tried it and it works as advertised.  I didn't do the registry hack personally, but downloaded the program and made the change with their program.  Here's the website to hear how it works and the download link & steps are below the website URL.

 

 

To download the program click on the link below, press the letter, B for button, then up arrow a few times to the download link.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Joanne.

 

I use the pass-through key to make a control work that has some kind of conflict with JAWS. Note that as Rick has posted, we’re talking about insert-3 above the letters, not insert-F3.

For example, in YouTube you can control play, pause, etc., with the j, k and l letters. However, JAWS would normally treat letters as navigation quick keys. To get around that conflict, press insert-3, then the letter for the control you want, such as j.

Insert-3 passes through only the keystroke pressed immediately after. So to get the k to work, you’d have to press insert-3 again before hitting k.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

 

I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I go to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3 after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo effectively I'd appreciate it.

 

Joanne

 


Re: How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

TheHangMan
 

Hi Mister B. ,

Ok, have you tried alt escape to cycle around like alt tab in Win10?

 

Just to clear the air, I never mention using shift tab anytime LOL!  And is a perfference

I agree the classic theme is better in my case.

 

Adios big brother B.

 

 

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Jorge,

 

The difference I'm finding after switching to the classic style is you get the desktop back.  What I mean is let's say you have Notepad, Word, Firefox, & Dropbox all open, and you close all the mentioned windows.  With the default setting you land on an empty screen, so you have to invoke the Windows key + D, or M, keystroke to get back to the desktop.  Using the classic mode, after you close the previously mentioned windows you Alt + Tab and you're back on the desktop.  Depending on individual settings this could be different, but this is the difference on my personal computer.  Now, I'm not going to debate whether one is better than the other because whether I choose the Windows 10 default or the classic mode is  entirely my choice and noone elses.  Like I said in the original post, the tweak was only mentioned because I've read many people wanting the Alt + Tab back to the desktop option back, and this gives them that option.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: TheHangMan

Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Mike,

I been running W10, since MS offered the free download from W7 to W10 almost 4  years ago and I never had a problem with the alt tab cycle.

 

Most likely I miss understood the problem some people were having? Or they got a bad download.

Back in the beginning of W10, I had to download the media creation tool from FS and remove the jaws mirror drivers, so jaws would work better in W10, but now it’s smooth sailing!

I got rid of an extra alt tab, when I added jaws to the system tray, what I was trying to explain.

 

Take care, well back to scanning.

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Jorge,

 

We're talking about, Alt + Tab between running / open windows, not Shift + tab.  Anyways having Jaws in the system tray has nothing to do with the default way of, Alt + Tabbing, as opposed to the older way.  I know this all matter of personal preference, so the only reason I posted what i did was because I've read a lot of posts' of people from not only this list, but others, complaining that Alt + Tab didn't work very well in Windows 10 and were advised to use the Windows key + Tab  keystroke instead.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: TheHangMan

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Mike,

If, my memory is there:

I thought, if you remove jaws from the system tray, you will gain that extra shift tab back, that you got rid of it in the first place, when you chose to add jaws to the system tray.

 

And in your other inquery about removing the action center from the system tray, well if you can add you must be able to remove too.

 

putting the Jaws icon or  any icon on the notification area.

Windows key+I, for settings, tab one time.

Right arrow to, personalization, press enter, tab one time.

Down arrow to, Taskbar, press enter.

Tab until you hear to, Choose what icons appear on the taskbar link, press enter.

Tab across and select what icons you want on the system tray / notification bar, by selecting and checking it.

Close the window.

Now, go to the system tray and check all your system tray icons are there.

HTH,

 

,

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 10 Pro and Jaws latest.  Rick a fellow moderator told me about this quite some time back and it works great!  I came across this, tried it and it works as advertised.  I didn't do the registry hack personally, but downloaded the program and made the change with their program.  Here's the website to hear how it works and the download link & steps are below the website URL.

 

 

To download the program click on the link below, press the letter, B for button, then up arrow a few times to the download link.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

ratshtron <northstarr1950@...>
 

ooops and double oops, insert plus f3 is jaws find, face with foot in mouth!


Legend has it that on Saturday 10/13/2018 01:12 PM, Rick Justice said:
----------------------------------------
Hi Joanne,
The insert F3 keystroke is for the Jaws find, not the passthru.
The pass thru keystroke is insert plus 3, on the number row.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "joanne" <grandma1323@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:13 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?


I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have
links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I
thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you
do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I go
to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3
after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link
work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key
after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo
effectively I'd appreciate it.

Joanne





----------------------------------------


Re: how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

ratshtron <northstarr1950@...>
 

ooops, insert plus f3 is to unload jaws not the jaws find.


Legend has it that on Saturday 10/13/2018 01:12 PM, Rick Justice said:
----------------------------------------
Hi Joanne,
The insert F3 keystroke is for the Jaws find, not the passthru.
The pass thru keystroke is insert plus 3, on the number row.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "joanne" <grandma1323@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:13 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?


I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have
links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I
thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you
do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I go
to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3
after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link
work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key
after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo
effectively I'd appreciate it.

Joanne





----------------------------------------


Re: How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Jorge,
 
The difference I'm finding after switching to the classic style is you get the desktop back.  What I mean is let's say you have Notepad, Word, Firefox, & Dropbox all open, and you close all the mentioned windows.  With the default setting you land on an empty screen, so you have to invoke the Windows key + D, or M, keystroke to get back to the desktop.  Using the classic mode, after you close the previously mentioned windows you Alt + Tab and you're back on the desktop.  Depending on individual settings this could be different, but this is the difference on my personal computer.  Now, I'm not going to debate whether one is better than the other because whether I choose the Windows 10 default or the classic mode is  entirely my choice and noone elses.  Like I said in the original post, the tweak was only mentioned because I've read many people wanting the Alt + Tab back to the desktop option back, and this gives them that option.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

Hi Mike,

I been running W10, since MS offered the free download from W7 to W10 almost 4  years ago and I never had a problem with the alt tab cycle.

 

Most likely I miss understood the problem some people were having? Or they got a bad download.

Back in the beginning of W10, I had to download the media creation tool from FS and remove the jaws mirror drivers, so jaws would work better in W10, but now it’s smooth sailing!

I got rid of an extra alt tab, when I added jaws to the system tray, what I was trying to explain.

 

Take care, well back to scanning.

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Jorge,

 

We're talking about, Alt + Tab between running / open windows, not Shift + tab.  Anyways having Jaws in the system tray has nothing to do with the default way of, Alt + Tabbing, as opposed to the older way.  I know this all matter of personal preference, so the only reason I posted what i did was because I've read a lot of posts' of people from not only this list, but others, complaining that Alt + Tab didn't work very well in Windows 10 and were advised to use the Windows key + Tab  keystroke instead.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: TheHangMan

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Mike,

If, my memory is there:

I thought, if you remove jaws from the system tray, you will gain that extra shift tab back, that you got rid of it in the first place, when you chose to add jaws to the system tray.

 

And in your other inquery about removing the action center from the system tray, well if you can add you must be able to remove too.

 

putting the Jaws icon or  any icon on the notification area.

Windows key+I, for settings, tab one time.

Right arrow to, personalization, press enter, tab one time.

Down arrow to, Taskbar, press enter.

Tab until you hear to, Choose what icons appear on the taskbar link, press enter.

Tab across and select what icons you want on the system tray / notification bar, by selecting and checking it.

Close the window.

Now, go to the system tray and check all your system tray icons are there.

HTH,

 

,

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 10 Pro and Jaws latest.  Rick a fellow moderator told me about this quite some time back and it works great!  I came across this, tried it and it works as advertised.  I didn't do the registry hack personally, but downloaded the program and made the change with their program.  Here's the website to hear how it works and the download link & steps are below the website URL.

 

 

To download the program click on the link below, press the letter, B for button, then up arrow a few times to the download link.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

Hi Joanne,
The insert F3 keystroke is for the Jaws find, not the passthru.
The pass thru keystroke is insert plus 3, on the number row.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "joanne" <grandma1323@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:13 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?


I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have
links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I
thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you
do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I go
to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3
after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link
work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key
after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo
effectively I'd appreciate it.

Joanne


Re: how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

Glenn / Lenny
 

The way it has worked for me, is to put the cursor on the item that isn't working, like where you would press the space bar, but it isn't working, then do insert + #3 and then press the space bar, or if that does not work, do insert + #3 then the enter key.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: joanne
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:13 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I go to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3 after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo effectively I'd appreciate it.
 
Joanne
 


TV sites that are jaws-friendly

joanne
 

I do not have my own TV provider so am wondering if anyone knows of a Jaws-friendly site where networks can be accessed. I went to Hulu and found it to no longer be accessible.
 
Thanks for any assistance.
 


how does insert f3 get buttons and links to work?

joanne
 

I recently heard about the insert f3 pass key, and since some sites have links and buttons that won't work when pressing spacebar or entering, I thought I'd attempt to use this key combo. I don't know what exactly you do--like is there a sequence of things that make it work? For instance, I go to buttons and there's an okay button. But do you escape out of the jaws f3 after spacing on okay? Or, after pressing okay, should the button or link work right away? I know that some types of searches require the escape key after the search, so if someone can show me how to use this combo effectively I'd appreciate it.
 
Joanne
 


Re: USPS issue.

Judy Jones
 

I did try using th insert-3, but it threw me to the top of the page.

 

Thanks for thinking of that though.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

Judy,

This does not work with all check boxes, but it does with some.

Try using insert + #3, the key to pass through, and then see if you can check it with the space bar after that.

HTH.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:40 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

Yes I did.  I tried Google Chrome.  I also got on the site with my Galaxy S8 and Kiwi browser, got further than on the PC, but could not check the proper choice/type of package I want to send.  The box would not check.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

 

Have you tried a different browser?  If you are using IE, try Firefox or Chrome to see whether you still encounter this problem.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 10:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

Hi, Folks,

 

I have been using USPS for years to ship packages.  I get on today, only to find out that the edit fields are unavailable to weigh a package.  I’m having a little hissy-fit, because the package I am trying to mail is expected.

 

My question.  Has anyone else seen this problem?

 

To duplicate, go to www.usps.com, sign in, create a label, an fill in fields until you get to the package section.  I check the box for ship my own package, and a couple of edit fields appear for Pounds and Ounces, except that Jaws reports they are unavailable.

 

I’ve tried filling in one edit field at a time, or simply tabbing through the process withedit fields open, but it skips the weight fields.

 

I am using Windows 10 with Jaws 18.

 

Thanks for reporting back, and if you have any ideas for me, will gladly try anything.  If all else fails, I will take the package for mailing, but am so tired of this cavalaire attitude of changing sites and throwing up road blocks for people using access technology.  I know this problem will not go away, in general, but had to vent hahahaha!

 

Thanks much.

 

Judy

 


Re: How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

TheHangMan
 

Hi Mike,

I been running W10, since MS offered the free download from W7 to W10 almost 4  years ago and I never had a problem with the alt tab cycle.

 

Most likely I miss understood the problem some people were having? Or they got a bad download.

Back in the beginning of W10, I had to download the media creation tool from FS and remove the jaws mirror drivers, so jaws would work better in W10, but now it’s smooth sailing!

I got rid of an extra alt tab, when I added jaws to the system tray, what I was trying to explain.

 

Take care, well back to scanning.

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Jorge,

 

We're talking about, Alt + Tab between running / open windows, not Shift + tab.  Anyways having Jaws in the system tray has nothing to do with the default way of, Alt + Tabbing, as opposed to the older way.  I know this all matter of personal preference, so the only reason I posted what i did was because I've read a lot of posts' of people from not only this list, but others, complaining that Alt + Tab didn't work very well in Windows 10 and were advised to use the Windows key + Tab  keystroke instead.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: TheHangMan

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi Mike,

If, my memory is there:

I thought, if you remove jaws from the system tray, you will gain that extra shift tab back, that you got rid of it in the first place, when you chose to add jaws to the system tray.

 

And in your other inquery about removing the action center from the system tray, well if you can add you must be able to remove too.

 

putting the Jaws icon or  any icon on the notification area.

Windows key+I, for settings, tab one time.

Right arrow to, personalization, press enter, tab one time.

Down arrow to, Taskbar, press enter.

Tab until you hear to, Choose what icons appear on the taskbar link, press enter.

Tab across and select what icons you want on the system tray / notification bar, by selecting and checking it.

Close the window.

Now, go to the system tray and check all your system tray icons are there.

HTH,

 

,

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 10 Pro and Jaws latest.  Rick a fellow moderator told me about this quite some time back and it works great!  I came across this, tried it and it works as advertised.  I didn't do the registry hack personally, but downloaded the program and made the change with their program.  Here's the website to hear how it works and the download link & steps are below the website URL.

 

 

To download the program click on the link below, press the letter, B for button, then up arrow a few times to the download link.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: USPS issue.

Glenn / Lenny
 


Judy,
This does not work with all check boxes, but it does with some.
Try using insert + #3, the key to pass through, and then see if you can check it with the space bar after that.
HTH.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

Yes I did.  I tried Google Chrome.  I also got on the site with my Galaxy S8 and Kiwi browser, got further than on the PC, but could not check the proper choice/type of package I want to send.  The box would not check.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

 

Have you tried a different browser?  If you are using IE, try Firefox or Chrome to see whether you still encounter this problem.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 10:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

Hi, Folks,

 

I have been using USPS for years to ship packages.  I get on today, only to find out that the edit fields are unavailable to weigh a package.  I’m having a little hissy-fit, because the package I am trying to mail is expected.

 

My question.  Has anyone else seen this problem?

 

To duplicate, go to www.usps.com, sign in, create a label, an fill in fields until you get to the package section.  I check the box for ship my own package, and a couple of edit fields appear for Pounds and Ounces, except that Jaws reports they are unavailable.

 

I’ve tried filling in one edit field at a time, or simply tabbing through the process withedit fields open, but it skips the weight fields.

 

I am using Windows 10 with Jaws 18.

 

Thanks for reporting back, and if you have any ideas for me, will gladly try anything.  If all else fails, I will take the package for mailing, but am so tired of this cavalaire attitude of changing sites and throwing up road blocks for people using access technology.  I know this problem will not go away, in general, but had to vent hahahaha!

 

Thanks much.

 

Judy

 


Re: USPS issue.

Judy Jones
 

Glenn,

 

Thank you so much.  I have a busy day ahead of me, but am anxious to try this.  I saw the Quick Tools, but assumed it was post office stuff rather than web site tools.  I would have never guessed to try this.  I will let you know how it goes.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

Hi Judy,

This is for the list as well as you more than ever because folks need to know about a web page change of recent.

Due to the excessive amount of information on web pages these days and also, many people using smart phones for going on-line, web pages are being condensed , and that is the case for this page.

So now we have to look for something that reads as collapsed or closed.

In this instance, you will look for

quick tools collapsed

and press the space bar, and it will open up more options, and you will get the link to track packages, and then you follow that link, and then you will have a usable edit field.

I'm using Windows 7 and IE in this case.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 9:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

Hi, Folks,

 

I have been using USPS for years to ship packages.  I get on today, only to find out that the edit fields are unavailable to weigh a package.  I’m having a little hissy-fit, because the package I am trying to mail is expected.

 

My question.  Has anyone else seen this problem?

 

To duplicate, go to www.usps.com, sign in, create a label, and fill in fields until you get to the package section.  I check the box for ship my own package, and a couple of edit fields appear for Pounds and Ounces, except that Jaws reports they are unavailable.

 

I’ve tried filling in one edit field at a time, or simply tabbing through the process withedit fields open, but it skips the weight fields.

 

I am using Windows 10 with Jaws 18.

 

Thanks for reporting back, and if you have any ideas for me, will gladly try anything.  If all else fails, I will take the package for mailing, but am so tired of this cavalaire attitude of changing sites and throwing up road blocks for people using access technology.  I know this problem will not go away, in general, but had to vent hahahaha!

 

Thanks much.

 

Judy

 


Re: USPS issue.

Judy Jones
 

Yes I did.  I tried Google Chrome.  I also got on the site with my Galaxy S8 and Kiwi browser, got further than on the PC, but could not check the proper choice/type of package I want to send.  The box would not check.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

 

Have you tried a different browser?  If you are using IE, try Firefox or Chrome to see whether you still encounter this problem.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 10:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] USPS issue.

 

Hi, Folks,

 

I have been using USPS for years to ship packages.  I get on today, only to find out that the edit fields are unavailable to weigh a package.  I’m having a little hissy-fit, because the package I am trying to mail is expected.

 

My question.  Has anyone else seen this problem?

 

To duplicate, go to www.usps.com, sign in, create a label, an fill in fields until you get to the package section.  I check the box for ship my own package, and a couple of edit fields appear for Pounds and Ounces, except that Jaws reports they are unavailable.

 

I’ve tried filling in one edit field at a time, or simply tabbing through the process withedit fields open, but it skips the weight fields.

 

I am using Windows 10 with Jaws 18.

 

Thanks for reporting back, and if you have any ideas for me, will gladly try anything.  If all else fails, I will take the package for mailing, but am so tired of this cavalaire attitude of changing sites and throwing up road blocks for people using access technology.  I know this problem will not go away, in general, but had to vent hahahaha!

 

Thanks much.

 

Judy

 


Re: Wells Fargo Web Site and Chrome

Dave... <dgcarlson@...>
 

Paul,

Usually a mobile web site will have the address starting with m dot and then
the same remaining URL. Check your PC logon URL to see if the m dot is
there.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hunt" <prhunt1@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 06:14
Subject: [jaws-users] Wells Fargo Web Site and Chrome


Hello everybody. I'm trying to use Wells Fargo with Chrome. When I look at
my accounts, I don't see the tables. If I launch Wells Fargo with Chrome on
my iPhone and access the desktop site, I see tables. This behavior happens
with JAWS 2018 and 2019. I'm not sure what's going on. I'm wondering if
Chrome is accessing the mobile site? If so, how can I tell Chrome to access
the desktop?
Any ideas?
Thanks so much.
Paul


Re: JAWS will not work with a PDF file with interactive form fields

John M.
 

Hi,


I ran into this problem two weeks ago, immediately after the latest Adobe Reader DC update installed. Neither Jaws 16, nor the latest version of NVDA would allow access to the PDF form fields, that just minutes prior, I had been interacting with. I made several attempts to resolve the problem by rolling my system back to a time prior to the Adobe update and removing and reinstalling Reader DC. Nothing fixed the problem. I had posted a message on this list, but received no response. I finally was able to find a copy of Adobe Reader XI and installed it. Now, everything is working properly again. Of course, I lost two work days because of that problem. Not good! In the process of doing the research around that problem I discovered that Adobe quietly removed the users ability to control the update process with Reader DC. It can be done, but you have to dig into the system to accomplish the task. This is the reason that I do not want ANY of my software to automatically update. I cannot afford the down time that it might cause me and the resulting missed work hours.


This is also the reason that I am still running Jaws 16, Windows 7 and Office 2010. It all normally works perfectly for me and allows me to get my work done everyday. I really enjoy reading all of the messages on this list, as all of the brave souls struggle to maintain sanity on the bleeding edge of technology.


My advice for your problem, remove Reader DC, try to find a copy of Reader XI and install it. Once installed, use the "check for updates" to make sure that it is up to date. It is working well for me. Also, disable the automatic updates in the preferences. I believe that it was an update to XI that got me onto the DC track. It must have sounded good to me at the time.

Best,

John

On 10/12/2018 9:49 PM, Loy wrote:
*Is there a way to use JAWS to fill in fields in a pdf file that has the interactive form fields? I could not get it wo work, had to go back to Window Eyes  for this.*


Re: chrome

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I think you said that you press alt-f to open the menu.  That does, um, open the menu.  Smile.  So all you have to do is press b for bookmark.

If you press alt by itself, then you do have to arrow down to open the menu.  Both ways do the same thing so whatever way is easier.  Smile.

We’re used to pressing alt-f in IE to open the file menu.  Chrome has no traditional file menu, but maybe they were trying to make it easy for us.  Alt-f or alt.

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome

 

You are the second one today to say that you have to down arrow after the alt+f and before pressing the letter B. I never have to press the down arrow and I go right to my bookmarks. Just another of those funny quirks in the world of computer I guess.

Marie

 

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:45 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome

 

Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.

 

Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.

 

Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear.

Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon.

Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register.

You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter.

Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset.

If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled.

To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.

 

Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone.

First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer.

Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box.

When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list.

I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks.

Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks  are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.

 

A note on my previous Chrome post.

I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.

 

I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.

 

Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome

 

If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome

 

I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.

 

Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.

 

Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.

 

The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.

 

If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome

 

I have found that I need all three.

Different browsers for different pages.

Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Lenny McHugh

To: JFW List

Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] chrome

 

What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying?

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