Hi all, Will my safe senders list get deleted if I delete my Outlook account from Outlook 2016?

Hi, Jeff. DBAN can be obtained for free from www.dban.org (I think). Been a while since I downloaded a copy. Otherwise, Google it, and you should find it. You will need some sighted assistance at boot-up; you need to burn a CD and copy files to it, or use a floppy 3.5-inch. I did this with two computers I needed to dispose of, and even the operating system went away. Good stuff. Cleans according to military/DOD specs.--Matthew Chao



On 10/14/2018 2:47 AM, Audiobookfan wrote:

What is DBAN and where can one get it? I have a couple of old laptops that I want to retire and dispose of, but I want to be sure all personal data has been removed from them. Both laptops run Vista.

Can I accomplish this data cleansing without sighted assistance using JAWS?

Thanks,
Jeff


On 10/13/2018 6:01 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:

Well, if you were wiping it out for disposal, DBAN would be the way to go.� But since you don't want to wipe out the operating system, it's more involved.� What exaqctly do you need to get rid of?--Matthew Chao



On 10/13/2018 8:45 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

Hi,

Like the subject says, I need to set up this other laptop like some what new again and have it as a backup laptop.

Once, I install jaws the rest is no worries!

But, I�m not sure on how to completely wipe it out correctly cause jaws is not working?

I�m also trying to avoid a� trip to best buy geek squad.

Thank you

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation�in the air, on land and at sea.

Hi,
I naws I am having remote desktop allowed.
But can you tell me from the begining how you set it? I allowed in properties of computer but that's all and If I am trying from another computer get my IP it will generate error.
I can connect with somebody through tandem if it will help you.
Or I need register somewhere and or install some another programs?

Hi all,
I was tryign to work with Remote desktop on win 7 respective 10.
I wasn't able to set it I called to freeedom scientific help, but the lady sayed that I must google hw to set it.
I was thinking because in win 7 Pro and win 10 Pro it is installed that will be easy.
But probably |I need install something more.
Is here somebody who could kinldy help me?
You can cotact me on my private skype
Micki2701000.

Matt,

Well if you have had the ongoing problems with JAWS being hesitant or
very slow to respond since version 17, then yes, I'd think JAWS is the culprit.
Give NVDA a try for a while to see if the problem disappears. I might
do that, myself just for grins.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 08:36
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Webpages Timing Out


I seem to do that all the time. I have FIOS, and this shouldn't be
happening. Perhaps Jaws slows things down?--Matt.



On 10/12/2018 11:33 AM, Dave... wrote:

Matthew,

This sounds like a slow connection. Happens to me once in a while,
perhaps every other week or so. Close that window and click again on
the embedded link to wake it up.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 08:00
Subject: [jaws-users] Webpages Timing Out


Hi, Folks. I'm using Jaws 2018. I notice that when I often go into
a page from a link within an email, I get a "webpage timed out". Any
way to stop this from happening? I often have to get out of IE and
back in again. It also happens with Google Chrome.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.--Matthew Chao

I'm sure you can still get the drives somewhere, and yes, they would likely
be external especially nowadays. I actually have an external 3.5 drive; just
not sure it works presently.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
cheez
Sent: October 14, 2018 11:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Need help wiping out a laptop
Matthew, you are dating yourself my friend. LOL.
3.5 floppies. I don't 'think you can get a drive for those things anymore,
can you?
I have a few floppies that I'd like to copy onto my hard drive, but I don't
know if external 3.5's exist.
Not to start an off topic here, but do you remember the
died-before-they-got-off-the-table 2.88 floppies?
Just like the Digital Cassettes they never stood a chance.
Vince
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Need help wiping out a laptop

Hi, Jeff. DBAN can be obtained for free from www.dban.org (I think). Been

a while since I downloaded a copy. Otherwise, Google it, and you should
find it. You will need some sighted assistance at boot-up; you need to
burn a CD and copy files to it, or use a floppy 3.5-inch. I did this with

two computers I needed to dispose of, and even the operating system went
away. Good stuff. Cleans according to military/DOD specs.--Matthew Chao



On 10/14/2018 2:47 AM, Audiobookfan wrote:

What is DBAN and where can one get it? I have a couple of old laptops
that I want to retire and dispose of, but I want to be sure all personal
data has been removed from them. Both laptops run Vista.

Can I accomplish this data cleansing without sighted assistance using
JAWS?

Thanks,
Jeff


On 10/13/2018 6:01 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:

Well, if you were wiping it out for disposal, DBAN would be the way to
go.� But since you don't want to wipe out the operating system, it's
more involved.� What exaqctly do you need to get rid of?--Matthew Chao



On 10/13/2018 8:45 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

Hi,

Like the subject says, I need to set up this other laptop like some
what new again and have it as a backup laptop.

Once, I install jaws the rest is no worries!

But, I�m not sure on how to completely wipe it out correctly cause
jaws is not working?

I�m also trying to avoid a� trip to best buy geek squad.

Thank you

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem
every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents
the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines
in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings.
The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to
the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any
coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize

our commitment to defend our nation�in the air, on land and at sea.

Matthew, you are dating yourself my friend.� LOL.
3.5 floppies.� I don't 'think you can get a drive for those things anymore, can you?
I have a few floppies that I'd like to copy onto my hard drive, but I don't know if external 3.5's exist.
Not to start an off topic here, but do you remember the died-before-they-got-off-the-table 2.88 floppies?
Just like the Digital Cassettes they never stood a chance.
Vince
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Need help wiping out a laptop

Hi, Jeff.� DBAN can be obtained for free from www.dban.org (I think). Been a while since I downloaded a copy.� Otherwise, Google it, and you should find it.� You will need some sighted assistance at boot-up; you need to burn a CD and copy files to it, or use a floppy 3.5-inch.� I did this with two computers I needed to dispose of, and even the operating system went away.� Good stuff.� Cleans according to military/DOD specs.--Matthew Chao



On 10/14/2018 2:47 AM, Audiobookfan wrote:

What is DBAN and where can one get it? I have a couple of old laptops that I want to retire and dispose of, but I want to be sure all personal data has been removed from them. Both laptops run Vista.

Can I accomplish this data cleansing without sighted assistance using JAWS?

Thanks,
Jeff


On 10/13/2018 6:01 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:

Well, if you were wiping it out for disposal, DBAN would be the way to go.� But since you don't want to wipe out the operating system, it's more involved.� What exaqctly do you need to get rid of?--Matthew Chao



On 10/13/2018 8:45 PM, TheHangMan wrote:

Hi,

Like the subject says, I need to set up this other laptop like some what new again and have it as a backup laptop.

Once, I install jaws the rest is no worries!

But, I�m not sure on how to completely wipe it out correctly cause jaws is not working?

I�m also trying to avoid a� trip to best buy geek squad.

Thank you

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation�in the air, on land and at sea.

Wow, Judy LOL!

Talk about irony right there!

You should definitely tell them about that LOL!

David Moore

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

So this is a laugh, bitter/sweet.

On their site they talk about how web accessibility is ongoing and if any questions to contact them.  I press the link to contact regarding accessibility, and there is a 404 not found error message.

Talk about accessibility!

Judy

It is like anything else, some hate it, some love it; being totally blind, I hate it when it is too loud, I cannot hear JAWS and the Stop or Pause button is not right there on top;  most people however, prefer autoplay if it is not too loud and easy to stop, not only on computers, but notably even more so while using smart phones and tablets.

Humberto

Good decision on chrome’s part. I hate autoplay so much.

Hello Adrian:

Well, thanks anyway for responding; you see, I have been doing podcasting and internet radio for years, I like for the station identification and then whatever program is on the air at the time to sound as soon as the page opens, the same as video does in Youtube; formerly that was easily accomplished with Flash Player, more recently with HTML5 for modern browsers with Flash Player fallback for older ones, but since wile ago, Chrome announced it was disabling the autorun argument to both the HTML5 label and Flash Player, so now when the page opens in Chrome, you must press the Play button in order for the sound to begin, not so in any other browser; thus my inquiry, since I have not found a way to do it.

I have no idea how Youtube does it, if indeed it does, I have not tried them using Chrome, I normally still use Internet Explorer 11.

Regards,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez

Fort White, Florida

Hi, Umberto.

Perhaps I’m interpreting “audio stream” too liberally. I know if I open a YouTube page with Chrome, the audio/video almost always starts right away. A members-only website I often use also plays videos when a page is opened. But I usually avoid audio streams of any kind, so I can’t come up with many examples off the top of my head. But if YouTube is a valid example, here’s a link I found more or less at random, based on my choice of artist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81HAYZbgDY

Hello Adrian and all:

I am surprised to hear you say that audio streams play in Chrome when you open a page that contains an audio stream player since Chrome has unabled the autoplay attribute of the audio label.  Could it be that a certain page is using a different player?  Please let me know the URL  of a page that autoplays an audio stream in Chrome.

Thanks,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez

Fort White, Florida

As I said, they usually do for me. If they don’t, as in the mute situation I mentioned, sometimes I need to find a play button. There is one website I visit where the audio does not play and there’s no play button. The same is true for that website when I use IE. However, I can get to the play button on that webpage with Firefox. This is a rare exception. Mostly, when I use Chrome, Audio streams start up right away when I land on a webpage playing one.

They don’t automatically play in chrome.

Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.

Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.

Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear.

Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon.

Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register.

You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter.

Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset.

If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled.

To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.

Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone.

First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer.

Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box.

When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list.

I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks.

Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks  are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.

A note on my previous Chrome post.

I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.

I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.

Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.

If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.

I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.

Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.

Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.

The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.

If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.

So this is a laugh, bitter/sweet.

On their site they talk about how web accessibility is ongoing and if any questions to contact them.  I press the link to contact regarding accessibility, and there is a 404 not found error message.

Talk about accessibility!

Judy

It is like anything else, some hate it, some love it; being totally blind, I hate it when it is too loud, I cannot hear JAWS and the Stop or Pause button is not right there on top;  most people however, prefer autoplay if it is not too loud and easy to stop, not only on computers, but notably even more so while using smart phones and tablets.

Humberto

Good decision on chrome’s part. I hate autoplay so much.

Hello Adrian:

Well, thanks anyway for responding; you see, I have been doing podcasting and internet radio for years, I like for the station identification and then whatever program is on the air at the time to sound as soon as the page opens, the same as video does in Youtube; formerly that was easily accomplished with Flash Player, more recently with HTML5 for modern browsers with Flash Player fallback for older ones, but since wile ago, Chrome announced it was disabling the autorun argument to both the HTML5 label and Flash Player, so now when the page opens in Chrome, you must press the Play button in order for the sound to begin, not so in any other browser; thus my inquiry, since I have not found a way to do it.

I have no idea how Youtube does it, if indeed it does, I have not tried them using Chrome, I normally still use Internet Explorer 11.

Regards,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez

Fort White, Florida

Hi, Umberto.

Perhaps I’m interpreting “audio stream” too liberally. I know if I open a YouTube page with Chrome, the audio/video almost always starts right away. A members-only website I often use also plays videos when a page is opened. But I usually avoid audio streams of any kind, so I can’t come up with many examples off the top of my head. But if YouTube is a valid example, here’s a link I found more or less at random, based on my choice of artist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81HAYZbgDY

Hello Adrian and all:

I am surprised to hear you say that audio streams play in Chrome when you open a page that contains an audio stream player since Chrome has unabled the autoplay attribute of the audio label.  Could it be that a certain page is using a different player?  Please let me know the URL  of a page that autoplays an audio stream in Chrome.

Thanks,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez

Fort White, Florida

As I said, they usually do for me. If they don’t, as in the mute situation I mentioned, sometimes I need to find a play button. There is one website I visit where the audio does not play and there’s no play button. The same is true for that website when I use IE. However, I can get to the play button on that webpage with Firefox. This is a rare exception. Mostly, when I use Chrome, Audio streams start up right away when I land on a webpage playing one.

They don’t automatically play in chrome.

Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.

Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.

Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear.

Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon.

Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register.

You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter.

Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset.

If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled.

To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.

Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone.

First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer.

Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box.

When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list.

I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks.

Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks  are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.

A note on my previous Chrome post.

I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.

I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.

Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.

If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.

I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.

Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.

Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.

The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.

If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.

Good decision on chrome’s part. I hate autoplay so much.

Hello Adrian:

Well, thanks anyway for responding; you see, I have been doing podcasting and internet radio for years, I like for the station identification and then whatever program is on the air at the time to sound as soon as the page opens, the same as video does in Youtube; formerly that was easily accomplished with Flash Player, more recently with HTML5 for modern browsers with Flash Player fallback for older ones, but since wile ago, Chrome announced it was disabling the autorun argument to both the HTML5 label and Flash Player, so now when the page opens in Chrome, you must press the Play button in order for the sound to begin, not so in any other browser; thus my inquiry, since I have not found a way to do it.

I have no idea how Youtube does it, if indeed it does, I have not tried them using Chrome, I normally still use Internet Explorer 11.

Regards,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez

Fort White, Florida

Hi, Umberto.

Perhaps I’m interpreting “audio stream” too liberally. I know if I open a YouTube page with Chrome, the audio/video almost always starts right away. A members-only website I often use also plays videos when a page is opened. But I usually avoid audio streams of any kind, so I can’t come up with many examples off the top of my head. But if YouTube is a valid example, here’s a link I found more or less at random, based on my choice of artist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81HAYZbgDY

Hello Adrian and all:

I am surprised to hear you say that audio streams play in Chrome when you open a page that contains an audio stream player since Chrome has unabled the autoplay attribute of the audio label.  Could it be that a certain page is using a different player?  Please let me know the URL  of a page that autoplays an audio stream in Chrome.

Thanks,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez

Fort White, Florida

As I said, they usually do for me. If they don’t, as in the mute situation I mentioned, sometimes I need to find a play button. There is one website I visit where the audio does not play and there’s no play button. The same is true for that website when I use IE. However, I can get to the play button on that webpage with Firefox. This is a rare exception. Mostly, when I use Chrome, Audio streams start up right away when I land on a webpage playing one.

They don’t automatically play in chrome.

Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.

Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.

Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear.

Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon.

Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register.

You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter.

Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset.

If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled.

To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.

Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone.

First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer.

Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box.

When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list.

I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks.

Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks  are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.

A note on my previous Chrome post.

I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.

I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.

Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.

If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.

I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.

Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.

Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.

The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.

If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.

Hi all, I can’t quite understand the message, it’s something like 1 del jump bellum. That makes no sense and I’m not sure of what it is saying, but it won’t let me copy it so I can’t reproduce it here. Anyway, this message comes up just before the message reads. Anyone else has this in jaws 2019 latest update? I am running jaws 2019 latest update, outlook 2010 and windows ten. Jim

Hi all, I can’t quite understand the message, it’s something like 1 del jump bellum. That makes no sense and I’m not sure of what it is saying, but it won’t let me copy it so I can’t reproduce it here. Anyway, this message comes up just before the message reads. Anyone else has this in jaws 2019 latest update? I am running jaws 2019 latest update, outlook 2010 and windows ten. Jim