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Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

I know how to get into touch cursor mode, but how does one use it as though one were using a touch screen.
 
Believe me, there are several times that a Jaws cursor or PC cursor will not interact with a window and a touch cursor does.
 
So, if there is an ability to mimic the touch cursor in any way, I would love to know this.
 
Victor
 

From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Adrian Spratt
 

Actually, George, shift+the PC cursor key starts the touch cursor. I’m sure you knew that and responded on auto pilot, as almost all of  us have been known to do from time to time.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

george b
 

Yes,

 

Shift jaws key ;  will start the touch curser

 

To get out of touch curser then press p c curser or jaws curser to tet out of touch curser.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: April 24, 2019 6:21
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Douglas,

 

How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.

 

Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?

 

Victor

 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

Hi Douglas,
 
How does one use the touch cursor without a touch screen.
 
Are there keystrokes that mimic a touch screen?
 
Victor
 

From: Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

The touch cursor is much more useful on current versions of Windows 10  regardless of  whether a touch screen is being used.  For many windows dialogs (such as Windows Defender or Windows Update) switching to the touch cursor gives much better access to the info being presented.    I think its value will continue to be more important in the future!

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

t
 

friend, for those of us who don’t have feelings in our finger tips due to pricking our fingers to check our blood, using a touch screen is extremely difficult, so it’s not funny to us
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
That’s funny.  LOL.
 
That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

how to export chrome book marks

Dennis L
 

Hi, how do I export chrome bookmarks?  Thanks.

Re: jaws cursor

Sharon S
 

Hi, I found out by accerdent that the computer at the place I volunteer is a touch screen. It is one of these computers that are all in the screen. One day I was reaching over to put something into the USB port and bumped the screen and Jaws started talking to me. I haven’t spent any time playing with Jaws and the touch screen because I normally have work to do and no time just to play.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’m sorry, I just didn’t know blind people used them

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

That’s funny.  LOL.

 

That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?

 

From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

For touch screens and tablets.

 

Victor

 

From: sandy

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

touch cursor?

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Jaws and Stascom

chris judge
 

I haven’t played with a lot. BTW, please disregard my last comment regarding this matter. I figured out how to reassign the stascome modifier key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of BB
Sent: April 23, 2019 10:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Does this program in any way enhance Jaws?

 

 

From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:37 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hence forth the voice it uses. I have been using the program for quite some time already and it has served me well.

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi David,

 

I only have Microsoft Anna on my Windows 7 desktop.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:16 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

It uses your default SAPII speech engine. Mine uses David since that is my default.

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:36 PM

To: Jaws-Users-List

Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi All,

 

I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:

 

Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."

 

The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: Jaws and Stascom

chris judge
 

I love the program. The only thing I’m finding is that some of the keystrokes conflict with outlook. If I have outlook opened, for instance, and attempt to move to the calendar with control 2, the contact manager in stascom is launched. Does anyone know if the keystrokes can be reassigned?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: April 23, 2019 7:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi Vicky,

 

Different people will get various uses from this program.  Below  is a list of its features.  So far I like the, Reminders, feature but, I'm sure the more I use it there will be more that I'll like.

 

 

What to know before installing the program

 

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for installation instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the program
familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

 

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable
list of 5 items
• Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute status and low volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5 and 100 percent;
• day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume levels and time slots customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title exceptions;
• time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the quarter hour, chime with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option to
specify user preferred chime sounds;
• all automated functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed configuration options available to suit individual needs.
list end

 

Individual hot keys for the following features
list of 10 items
• Open user guide in default browser;
• generate summary report of user settings;
• configuration window to specify user specific preferences for all features;
• temporarily unload program from memory;
• audio mixer input and output details;
• password generator, unique 10 character very strong password with each keystroke;
• calculation of word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and applications;
• Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5 percent increments, ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

 

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired. Manual check for updates option available;
• support for multiple user profiles on one system;
• status messages and time announcements via user preferred SAPI5 engine;
• user-friendly interface for changing SAPI5 voice parameters;
• support for same SAPI5 engine used with screen reader and program messages;
• optimised for NVDA screen reader;
• included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji symbols;
• small footprint;
• comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end    


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would have destroyed civilization.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:46 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi Mike, What is the Stascom program supposed to do and what about it particularly intrigues you?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:37 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

 

Hi All,

 

I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:

 

Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."

 

The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

I’m sorry, I just didn’t know blind people used them
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
That’s funny.  LOL.
 
That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Jaws and Stascom

Glenn / Lenny
 

Only in if your audio gets muted or turned down, you have built-in hotkeys to get the volume back.
Also, it maximizes all windows, which often makes Jaws work better.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: BB
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

Does this program in any way enhance Jaws?
 
 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hence forth the voice it uses. I have been using the program for quite some time already and it has served me well.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi David,
 
I only have Microsoft Anna on my Windows 7 desktop.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

It uses your default SAPII speech engine. Mine uses David since that is my default.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi All,
 
I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:
 
Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."
 
The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: Jaws and Stascom

BB <Berniece1910@...>
 

Does this program in any way enhance Jaws?
 
 

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hence forth the voice it uses. I have been using the program for quite some time already and it has served me well.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi David,
 
I only have Microsoft Anna on my Windows 7 desktop.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom

It uses your default SAPII speech engine. Mine uses David since that is my default.
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws and Stascom
 
Hi All,
 
I'm giving this Stascom program a go and so far I like it but, I get this message when doing certain tasks like restarting the computer:
 
Alert
Stascom was unable to speak a notification through the selected SAPI5
engine. Please choose a different engine from the Stascom Configuration
Manager under "Notification settings."
 
The only option I get is Microsoft Anna in the notification settings.  Can anyone tell the list how to change to a different speech engine / synthesizer than the SAPI5 Microsoft Anna?  All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

That’s funny.  LOL.
 
That’s like asking if a person needs to see to use an iPhone or Smart phone.
 
Victor
 

From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


Hi Sandy,
Smart phones have touch screens and we can use them.
Some tablets have touch screens and we can use those too.
And the Amazon Echo devices with a touch screen  along with iPads and other tablets all have touch screens that we can use.
With the latest Jaws, you can use the touch screen feature without a touch screen connected, which gives us more access than we had without this feature.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

uh, doesn’t a person need to see to use a touch screen?
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


And all computers using the latest Jaws.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 
From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Victor Gouveia
 

For touch screens and tablets.
 
Victor
 

From: sandy
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
touch cursor?
 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

touch cursor?
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: looking for good backup software

Glenn / Lenny
 

Both drop box and Open Drive are good cloud services.
With Open Drive you can synchronize any of your important folders to an encrypted folder on the site and it will keep a mirror image of that folder at all times.
So if you lose your system or drive or something, you can resync the folder and get your files back.
I get unlimited storage on Open Drive for 99 dollars a year.
Glenn
 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:12 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] looking for good backup software

I just got a new computer and want a good backup program – both to back up files and to be able to backup and restore my hard disks. A friend strongly recommends macrium reflect. I downloaded the trial and find it inaccessible. Has anyone else used this program and can anyone recommend a good backup program?

Also, can anyone recommend a good, accessible

Thanks.  cloud backup storage service