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Re: Touch Cursor Information

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I think we just have to play with all three cursors sometimes to see what will work.  I’ve been on web pages where nothing will activate a “clickable” and where nothing can see the “play” button the website says is there on the top left of the screen.

And the print button on the Southwest Airlines webpage certainly did not work either.

When I scan a file or folder with Eset, the JAWS cursor will read the results, as will insert b.

I played with the touch cursor just now.  When I press control-home with the touch coursor activated, JAWS says Eset Antivirus Window.  But I could not read the contents of the window.

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:36 PM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

Thank you for this Becca.

 

The only question I have then is if the touch cursor will see things the Jaws cursor won’t.

 

For example, when you get a dialog box where Jaws just lands on the button and so you have to perform an insert+B command to read the entire dialog box, so, to avoid doing this, I’ll try the Jaws cursor to simply move up a line or two instead of having to listen to a whole bunch of text.  In this instance, the Jaws cursor will simply say blank, no matter where you go.  Will the touch cursor read this types of things instead of the Jaws cursor.

 

I would think this a very useful cursor to use in place of the Jaws cursor, but again, Jaws has to be able to see this stuff, and if it’s only as good as the Jaws cursor, then it isn’t much use, save for apps such as the ones listed.

 

Victor

 

From: Rebecca Lineberger

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:15 AM

To: JAWS Users List

Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Touch Cursor Information

LeDon
 

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it  or a hit or miss approach.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: top posting

LeDon
 

That make since. I sometimes do quote a small bit of what I am responding to so someone doesn't have to look around to find out what the heck I am talking about. Smiles. Thanks for the information.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

It refers to the location of your reply ina thread, either on an e-mail list like this one, a forum or internet newsgroup. If it's at the top of the message, iE, before a possibly-long series of quoted messages going backwards, then it's top-posted.

Again, I'd like to reiterate that I always saw the whole point of doing things the other way, or so called "bottom-posting", being so you can quote and reply to individual parts of a person's message, but it seems like since the 1990s, most people stopped bothering with this. I did kind of like this and so when I reply to facebook posts I will sometimes actually copy and paste parts of a comment or post and then reply to each bit with my own poitns or rebuttals.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: April 24, 2019 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

So, I have heard that there is no dumb question. Therefore , here goes, what is top posting?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sherry Wells
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

I agree with Alan. My sighted work colleagues preferred top posting too. In fact, there were many complaints whenever anyone did a bottom post. Sighted people too like the ease of just finding what they need at the top of the email.

Sherry Wells

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] top posting

Glenn,

I beg to differ with your statement that many if not most sighted folks prefer bottom posting. Back in my sighted work days, I certainly preferred top posting as did the majority of my co-workers. I'm sort of scratching my head wondering where you drew that conclusion since most want to get to a response as quickly as possible whether sighted or not and top posting yields the quickest response.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] top posting

Hi,
Many, if not most sighted folk prefer bottom posting.
To them, it makes sense.
Sighted folk can simply look past all the past info and glance down to the new information.
I think some Blind folk like to do this because they may feel that it normalizes them to some degree because most sighted users do this.
I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a screenreader user who prefers bottom-posting, because we are forced to reread the non-relevant information at the top.
Usually when we read a message of a particular thread, we have been following the thread and we just want to read the next reply and that is why I call that non-relevant.
And if we come into a thread late, it is no big deal to arrow down to discover what the above message was referring to.
I'm bringing this topic up because I have read some bottom-posted messages on this list in the past and the moderators prefer that we top-post.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjustice@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


That may be so, but I am not in the habit of searching for a reply which should be at the top of the message, and nor should anyone else!
Refer to the list guidelines for proper posting practices.


Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon S" <koala@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


Hi, there was a message however it was right near the bottom.

Larry was commenting on the cost for his jaws compared to the price quoted for the other person.

Larry, the $90 offer is only available in US at the moment but they are hoping to at some stage open it up to all countries.

Hope this helps.
From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws

If you have something constructive to say, then say it, do not re-post what has already been said.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Volk" <notseeman@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] activating jaws


On 4/21/19, John Gassman <johngassman@...> wrote:
If she lives in the United States, she can move from JAWS 14 to 2019
for just $90.00.
She'll be able to authorize it legally.
If she doesn't live here, she'll have to wait until the home annual
license is released world wide.
I hope that will be in the near future but so far no date has been
released.

John
At 07:37 AM 4/21/2019, you wrote:
I do not believe this is a question to be discussed on here as it goes
to copyright violation.

From: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] activating jaws

I have a friend who is running windows 7 with jaws 14 installed.
Currently jaws 14 is set to startup when the computer does.
I gave her my old cd of jaws 17 with a valid authorization.
She has got jaws 17 installed but not
authorized so she is still using 14 and 17 is sitting on her computer.
My question is how can she authorize 17. She gets like oh no I have
no speech what do I do!
Basically because she doesn’


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife
would have preferred.

JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification





Wow! Here in Canada it cost me more than $600.00 to go from JAWS 14 to 2019.

Re: Touch Cursor Information

Adrian Spratt
 

When your default PC cursor isn’t giving you enough information. With luck, the touch cursor will fill in the gaps.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it  or a hit or miss approach.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Touch Cursor Information

Angel
 

What is the difference between the touch curser and the invisible curser?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

When your default PC cursor isn’t giving you enough information. With luck, the touch cursor will fill in the gaps.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it  or a hit or miss approach.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Touch Cursor Information

t
 

when you say not enough information, you mean like buttons not working?
 

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information
 

When your default PC cursor isn’t giving you enough information. With luck, the touch cursor will fill in the gaps.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it  or a hit or miss approach.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Touch Cursor Information

Dave...
 

LeDon,
 
One simply uses it when other cursors don't seem to work. It's sort of a hit-and-miss thing.
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:59
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it  or a hit or miss approach.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: jaws cursor

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Takis,
 
If you have a Numpad the right side of the Numpad has 3 keys, and from top to bottom the keys are  layed out this way:
Right side top:  Numpad Minus, activates the Jaws cursor.
 
Right side middle:  Numpad Plus, activates the PC cursor.
 
Right side bottom:  Enter key.

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to?

                                                            Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Takis,

 

The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.

 

Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Mike/all,

Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: Touch Cursor Information

Adrian Spratt
 

Thanks, Rebecca, this is useful. FYI, the repetition of instructions for how to make touch cursor work automatically on individual websites suggest you copied and combined material from two sources.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Touch Cursor Information

Adrian Spratt
 

As an example, yes. But see Rebecca’s post for a very complete explanation.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of t
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

when you say not enough information, you mean like buttons not working?

 

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:30 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

When your default PC cursor isn’t giving you enough information. With luck, the touch cursor will fill in the gaps.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it  or a hit or miss approach.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Below is a note from someone with the same problem and their fix.
Hello, a month or so ago, I asked for assistance in stopping jaws from automatically reading new incoming messages in outlook.
No matter where I was in windows. whether it was ms word, the documents folder, etc,  jaws would begin reading new messages as they came in.
 
In case anyone has this issue, the fix is,
 
While in outlook, press, Alt + F, then the letter, T.
 
Arrow down once to the mail option.
 
Then tab several times to desktop alerts. Uncheck this option and then tab to ok button.
 
This should take care of the issue.
 
 
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Someone else asked about this recently.  I gave the suggestion to be sure that Desktop Notifications are turned off in the Outlook Options under the Mail heading.  Go to Alt F, T, then arrow down to mail and Shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons.  The list of Mail options is really long, so I think it’s faster to get to the one you need by going backward.  I’m not positive if this will solve your issue, but I think it will help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Carr via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

Hello,

 

I am running JAWS2019 on a Windows10 computer and using Outlook 365 Enterprise for e-mail.  When messages arrive in my inbox, the body of the message is read by JAWS.  Both the Reading Pane and the Preview lines are turned off from the ribbon.  If anyone has any idea how to stop this, I would appreciate any recommendations.

 

Annette

 

 



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Re: Touch Cursor Information

Glenn / Lenny
 


Yes on buttons not working, and also sometimes you know that there is something to advance you in the program, but the keyboard keys get you nowhere and you route the Jaws cursor and it only gives you graphics and there are no menus and the applications key does nothing.
Then you try the touch cursor.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: t
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

when you say not enough information, you mean like buttons not working?
 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information
 

When your default PC cursor isn’t giving you enough information. With luck, the touch cursor will fill in the gaps.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it  or a hit or miss approach.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

 

I’ve had this stored for a while, and can’t remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website.  It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

 

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor 

Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the

ARROW

keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press

SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS

, or

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (

NUM PAD PLUS

) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

 

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

 

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

keys to move by headings, press

PAGE UP

or

PAGE DOWN

until you hear "headings". Now, pressing

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

will move to the next or previous heading.

 

Press

CTRL+HOME

to move to the first object and press

CTRL+END

to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press

INSERT+UP ARROW

. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press

INSERT+DOWN ARROW

.

 

As you navigate using the

ARROW

keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing

SPACEBAR

or

ENTER

on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

 

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the

ARROW

keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the

ESC

key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

 

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press

DOWN ARROW

to move to the /Top Stories region and then press

RIGHT ARROW

to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press

INSERT+ENTER

or

NUM PAD SLASH

to switch to Text Review so you can use the

ARROW

keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press

ESC

to close Text Review and then use

RIGHT

or

LEFT ARROW

to select another article from the current region, or

UP

or

DOWN ARROW

to move to a different region.

 

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

 

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

 

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

 

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press

INSERT+V

to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press

INSERT+Z

while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

 

Advanced Object Navigation

 

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

 

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

 

To enable Advanced Navigation, press

NUM PAD STAR

, or

CAPS LOCK+A

if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the

LEFT

and

RIGHT ARROW

keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the

UP

and

DOWN ARROW

keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press

INSERT+H

while this mode is active. Press

NUM  PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Dave...
 

...and that is exactly why I asked the originator whether the auto-reading was happening just inside Outlook, or elsewhere. No response to my question, so no help offered.
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:10
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Below is a note from someone with the same problem and their fix.
Hello, a month or so ago, I asked for assistance in stopping jaws from automatically reading new incoming messages in outlook.
No matter where I was in windows. whether it was ms word, the documents folder, etc,  jaws would begin reading new messages as they came in.
 
In case anyone has this issue, the fix is,
 
While in outlook, press, Alt + F, then the letter, T.
 
Arrow down once to the mail option.
 
Then tab several times to desktop alerts. Uncheck this option and then tab to ok button.
 
This should take care of the issue.
 
 
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Someone else asked about this recently.  I gave the suggestion to be sure that Desktop Notifications are turned off in the Outlook Options under the Mail heading.  Go to Alt F, T, then arrow down to mail and Shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons.  The list of Mail options is really long, so I think it’s faster to get to the one you need by going backward.  I’m not positive if this will solve your issue, but I think it will help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Carr via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

Hello,

 

I am running JAWS2019 on a Windows10 computer and using Outlook 365 Enterprise for e-mail.  When messages arrive in my inbox, the body of the message is read by JAWS.  Both the Reading Pane and the Preview lines are turned off from the ribbon.  If anyone has any idea how to stop this, I would appreciate any recommendations.

 

Annette

 

 



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Re: Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Gary Jackson <gljackson@...>
 

The same thing happens to me sometimes in thunderbird. Of course I'm not finding the same options  as the ones in outlook.


Gary



On 4/24/2019 2:10 PM, Mike B wrote:
Below is a note from someone with the same problem and their fix.
Hello, a month or so ago, I asked for assistance in stopping jaws from automatically reading new incoming messages in outlook.
No matter where I was in windows. whether it was ms word, the documents folder, etc,  jaws would begin reading new messages as they came in.
 
In case anyone has this issue, the fix is,
 
While in outlook, press, Alt + F, then the letter, T.
 
Arrow down once to the mail option.
 
Then tab several times to desktop alerts. Uncheck this option and then tab to ok button.
 
This should take care of the issue.
 
 
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Someone else asked about this recently.  I gave the suggestion to be sure that Desktop Notifications are turned off in the Outlook Options under the Mail heading.  Go to Alt F, T, then arrow down to mail and Shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons.  The list of Mail options is really long, so I think it’s faster to get to the one you need by going backward.  I’m not positive if this will solve your issue, but I think it will help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Carr via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

Hello,

 

I am running JAWS2019 on a Windows10 computer and using Outlook 365 Enterprise for e-mail.  When messages arrive in my inbox, the body of the message is read by JAWS.  Both the Reading Pane and the Preview lines are turned off from the ribbon.  If anyone has any idea how to stop this, I would appreciate any recommendations.

 

Annette

 

 



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Re: Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

Don & Cher
 

Doing as Mike suggested will stop the reading no matter which app has focus. I’m the one who asked re this recently, and his suggestion works beautifully. I thought I had to change something in JAWS because the reading was in all windows regardless of which had focus- but the fix is not inside JAWS.

 

Cher

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

...and that is exactly why I asked the originator whether the auto-reading was happening just inside Outlook, or elsewhere. No response to my question, so no help offered.

 

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:10

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

Below is a note from someone with the same problem and their fix.

Hello, a month or so ago, I asked for assistance in stopping jaws from automatically reading new incoming messages in outlook.
No matter where I was in windows. whether it was ms word, the documents folder, etc,  jaws would begin reading new messages as they came in.

 

In case anyone has this issue, the fix is,

 

While in outlook, press, Alt + F, then the letter, T.

 

Arrow down once to the mail option.

 

Then tab several times to desktop alerts. Uncheck this option and then tab to ok button.

 

This should take care of the issue.

 

 

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:38 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

Someone else asked about this recently.  I gave the suggestion to be sure that Desktop Notifications are turned off in the Outlook Options under the Mail heading.  Go to Alt F, T, then arrow down to mail and Shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons.  The list of Mail options is really long, so I think it’s faster to get to the one you need by going backward.  I’m not positive if this will solve your issue, but I think it will help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Carr via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Incoming Outlook Message Being Read When Message Arrives in Inbox

 

Hello,

 

I am running JAWS2019 on a Windows10 computer and using Outlook 365 Enterprise for e-mail.  When messages arrive in my inbox, the body of the message is read by JAWS.  Both the Reading Pane and the Preview lines are turned off from the ribbon.  If anyone has any idea how to stop this, I would appreciate any recommendations.

 

Annette

 

 



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serious problem with new Outlook-2019 and JAWS

JOHN RIEHL
 

Hi. I’m using the latest JAWS on a new Windows-10 Machine and Office-2019. When I open my Outlook, I can see my inbox and all of its e-mails; unfortunately I can’t see any of my other mailboxes or accounts. My expected behavior is that when I open Outlook I am in my inbox and my most recent e-mail; then when I shift-tab I’m in the list of my mailboxes and I can arrow up or down or press the letter of a given mailbox and then press Enter to enter the mailbox. That’s how things work with my Windows-7 and Outlook-2010. None of this works with my new computer and Outlook02019. Same JAWS.

I’m assuming there’s some sort of view configuration I need to change but I don’t know what it is.

Please help!!

Thanks. John .

 

Re: Touch Cursor Information

Ann Byrne
 

When I try to use the touch cursor, most of the time it just goes clunk and doesn't read anything.

At 01:30 PM 4/24/2019, you wrote:
When your default PC cursor isn't giving you enough information. With luck, the touch cursor will fill in the gaps.

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

So, how does one know when one should switch to the touch curser? Surely it is not just a try it or a hit or miss approach.

From: <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:15 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Touch Cursor Information

I've had this stored for a while, and can't remember now if this came from the Help Menu or from the Vispero website. It mentions Windows 8, but I think the information is still relevant for Windows 10.

Object Navigation Using the Touch Cursor
Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the
ARROW
keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
, or
SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON
if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (
NUM PAD PLUS
) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press
INSERT+V
to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

Once the Touch Cursor is active, pressing
RIGHT
or
LEFT ARROW
will move to the next or previous object on the screen. This is the same as doing a left or right flick on a touch screen. Pressing
UP
or
DOWN ARROW
will move to the previous or next object by type. By default, these commands will move by region, or group if you are on the Windows 8 Start screen. This is the same as doing an up or down flick on a touch screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press
PAGE UP
or
PAGE DOWN
to cycle through the available types. For example, if you want the
UP
or
DOWN ARROW
keys to move by headings, press
PAGE UP
or
PAGE DOWN
until you hear "headings". Now, pressing
UP
or
DOWN ARROW
will move to the next or previous heading.

Press
CTRL+HOME
to move to the first object and press
CTRL+END
to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press
INSERT+UP ARROW
. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
.

As you navigate using the
ARROW
keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing
SPACEBAR
or
ENTER
on the current element will move focus to that element and perform the appropriate action similar to double tapping on a touch screen. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users.

If the Touch Cursor is on an object containing text, such as the body of a news article, you can press
INSERT+ENTER
or
NUM PAD SLASH
to enable Text Review. In this mode, you can use the
ARROW
keys as well as all other standard reading commands to read the text as if you were reading a regular document. Pressing the
ESC
key will exit Text Review and return to Touch Cursor navigation.

A good example of using the Touch Cursor is in the News app, where it is enabled by default. Once the app launches, you could press
DOWN ARROW
to move to the /Top Stories region and then press
RIGHT ARROW
to move to a particular story. When you find the article you want to read, you can press
INSERT+ENTER
or
NUM PAD SLASH
to switch to Text Review so you can use the
ARROW
keys or the braille display to read the article. Once you are finished, press
ESC
to close Text Review and then use
RIGHT
or
LEFT ARROW
to select another article from the current region, or
UP
or
DOWN ARROW
to move to a different region.

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys

While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor.

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories.

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press
INSERT+V
to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press
INSERT+Z
while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

Advanced Object Navigation

For advanced users, specifically those who may be involved with developing applications, Advanced Navigation provides more detail about all objects in the UIA (User Interface Automation) structure.

With the standard Touch Cursor, you can only navigate objects that are visible on the screen in the current application. In Advanced Navigation, the Touch Cursor traverses all UIA objects in a hierarchical manner. All Objects, whether visible or not, can be traversed in Advanced Navigation.

To enable Advanced Navigation, press
NUM PAD STAR
, or
CAPS LOCK+A
if using the laptop keyboard layout, while the Touch Cursor is active. Once active, use the
LEFT
and
RIGHT ARROW
keys to move to the previous or next sibling object and the
UP
and
DOWN ARROW
keys to move to the parent object or the first child object. To view more Advanced Navigation commands, press
INSERT+H
while this mode is active. Press
NUM PAD STAR once more to turn off Advanced Navigation and return to the standard Touch Cursor.





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Re: serious problem with new Outlook-2019 and JAWS

Dave...
 

Try expanding your inbox to see if there are folders hidden there

Dave


On Apr 24, 2019, at 2:31 PM, JOHN RIEHL via Groups.Io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:

Hi. I’m using the latest JAWS on a new Windows-10 Machine and Office-2019. When I open my Outlook, I can see my inbox and all of its e-mails; unfortunately I can’t see any of my other mailboxes or accounts. My expected behavior is that when I open Outlook I am in my inbox and my most recent e-mail; then when I shift-tab I’m in the list of my mailboxes and I can arrow up or down or press the letter of a given mailbox and then press Enter to enter the mailbox. That’s how things work with my Windows-7 and Outlook-2010. None of this works with my new computer and Outlook02019. Same JAWS.

I’m assuming there’s some sort of view configuration I need to change but I don’t know what it is.

Please help!!

Thanks. John .

 

Re: serious problem with new Outlook-2019 and JAWS

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’m not on Outlook 2019, but the two things to try are these:

  1. Try using Control Y to access that list of folder in a dialog box format.
  2. Go to the View ribbon and tab over to Folder Pane and be sure it is set to normal.  The shortcut is Alt V, then F to then arrow up and down to be sure “Normal” is checked.
  3.  

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 3:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] serious problem with new Outlook-2019 and JAWS

 

Hi. I’m using the latest JAWS on a new Windows-10 Machine and Office-2019. When I open my Outlook, I can see my inbox and all of its e-mails; unfortunately I can’t see any of my other mailboxes or accounts. My expected behavior is that when I open Outlook I am in my inbox and my most recent e-mail; then when I shift-tab I’m in the list of my mailboxes and I can arrow up or down or press the letter of a given mailbox and then press Enter to enter the mailbox. That’s how things work with my Windows-7 and Outlook-2010. None of this works with my new computer and Outlook02019. Same JAWS.

I’m assuming there’s some sort of view configuration I need to change but I don’t know what it is.

Please help!!

Thanks. John .

 



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Re: serious problem with new Outlook-2019 and JAWS

Sandra Streeter
 

Start by doing Ctrl-y, which should land you in your list of folders, which you can arrow through. Because I use Outlook as email client for gmail, I personally have to open the gmail folder, which contains my spam folder, among other things. . I had to do a lot of research to eventually find that ctrl-y thing out—I have Windows 10 and Outlook and Jaws 2019, as well. It’s a learning curve. HTH!

 

 

Sandra

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] serious problem with new Outlook-2019 and JAWS

 

Hi. I’m using the latest JAWS on a new Windows-10 Machine and Office-2019. When I open my Outlook, I can see my inbox and all of its e-mails; unfortunately I can’t see any of my other mailboxes or accounts. My expected behavior is that when I open Outlook I am in my inbox and my most recent e-mail; then when I shift-tab I’m in the list of my mailboxes and I can arrow up or down or press the letter of a given mailbox and then press Enter to enter the mailbox. That’s how things work with my Windows-7 and Outlook-2010. None of this works with my new computer and Outlook02019. Same JAWS.

I’m assuming there’s some sort of view configuration I need to change but I don’t know what it is.

Please help!!

Thanks. John .