Date   
Re: From the BBC, Video

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I’m so sorry.  This was not meant for the JAWS list but for another j a person in my Outlook contacts and I didn’t catch it.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Rebecca Lineberger
Subject: [jaws-users] From the BBC, Video

 

Audun lived a normal city life. But fed up with being annoyed all the time, he moved to the Arctic with his wife and bought some dogs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

Re: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] From the BBC, Video

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I just explained. It was meant for another J A contact and I did not catch
the mistake. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] From the BBC, Video

Why is this here?

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineberger@...>
To: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineberger@...>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:30 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] From the BBC, Video


* 'I'm the father to 110 huskies'
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47977584>


Audun lived a normal city life. But fed up with being annoyed all the time,
he moved to the Arctic with his wife and bought some dogs.














A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open.

Re: PDF conversion software, recommendations?

JM Casey
 

Hey Tom.

Can you make any comments about version numbers as far as accessibility is concerned?

Does everything still work as well as it used to?

Although it might not be supported by the company, I’ll still get an old version if I have to.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: April 22, 2019 3:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] PDF conversion software, recommendations?

 

I use this program, and it works well.

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:28 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] PDF conversion software, recommendations?

 

Hey Adrian.

I’ve heard great things about Abbyy Finereader. The software costs somewhere in the $200 US range and is a full-fledged commercial oCR package that is supposed to work well with JAWS except in some areas. I haven’t yet gotten around to giving it a try, though.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: April 21, 2019 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] PDF conversion software, recommendations?

 

I used to have Omega to perform OCR, but a Google search indicates it’s no longer as highly rated as it used to be. I’ve just experimented with a free PDF converter, but it can’t convert PDF images to text. Sometimes, PDF files contain lots of text captured as images, so that one is no good.

 

I see no need for OpenBook. A commercial application ought to be good enough, so long as it works well with JAWS.

 

Suggestions?

Re: Combo box

Holly
 

Hi Larry:
 
I have come across this problem on Amazon at times, usually when selecting a size or color.  The only way I have been able to work around it is to go back to the list after it kicks you out and wait to hear what you selected, then arrow up or down .  When it kicks you out again, go back and see if the option has changed.  It may take a few tries, but you can usually end up finding what you want to select in the combo list.
 
Hope this makes sense.
 
Maybe someone else has found an easier way.
 
Holly

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

so what you are saying is that since the pc cursor only reads, say for example half the width of a page, the jaws cursor will read the entire page
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy,
 
Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy & Takis,
 
See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: How do I make HJPad the default program for opening RTF files?

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

From:
Mario
James, try the following:
 
navigate to and press the application key or shift+f10 on an rtf file.
arrow to and enter on open with...
down arrow to and enter on Choose default program...
tab to and enter on browse button.
shift+tab to and enter on Freedom Scientific.
down arrow to and enter on JAWS.
arrow to and enter on the version of JAWS you are using.
type hj, make sure you're on HJPad.exe.
tab to and enter on the open button.
tab to and enter on the ok button.
Mario
From:
Mike B
Hi James,
Once you chose HJPad to open RTF files HJPad was also added to the default file associations list as well.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 12:06 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] How do I make HJPad the default program for opening RTF files?

Hi all,
 
The subject line says it all.  Except, I have been digging around for over an hour with no luck.  So, information shure would be greatly appreciated.
 
Many thanks,
 
James B
 
 

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

seems like you need to know what’s on a web page to know to use the jaws cursor, which doesn’t make sense to me
 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

This is in the JAWS help material, but, a nice way of remembering/showing how the JAWS cursor is supposed to work is that it goes where the mouse pointer can go. I don’t see many people say this, maybe because they’re not used to talking about mice, but the JAWS cursor is linked to the mouse pointer whereas the regular PC cursor is not. So, for those types of controls that tabbing around simply won’t get you to, it can be very useful, as well as reading information that is not displayed in a field you can tab to and then move your regular cursor in with arrow keys.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: April 22, 2019 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


It might not read the entire page but, it'll read a heck of a lot more of the page than the PC cursor.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

so what you are saying is that since the pc cursor only reads, say for example half the width of a page, the jaws cursor will read the entire page
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy,
 
Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy & Takis,
 
See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

here’s something stupid, why not just make the jaws cursor the default cursor?
 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Sandy,
To add to what Mike wrote,
You have a workspace that does not take up the entire screen, that is the area perhaps half the size of your screen, that is in the middle of the screen, but where your PC cursor is working.
Sighted people can see everything on the screen, but our PC cursor only sees the little workspace in the middle.
The Jaws cursor can read everything that is currently on the screen, like the eyes of a sighted person.
So it reads outside of your current workspace.
This may be a different program in the background, like the image of a house with a person standing in front of it.
Your PC cursor is on the person, but the Jaws cursor can see everything in the picture.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy,
 
Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy & Takis,
 
See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


Sandy,
You could use it as your default cursor in many instances, but it would be a lot of work, as you would have to click on things, because it's the mouse pointer.
But since it's the mouse pointer, you cannot type with it.
There is a way to left and right click with the numberpad, just above the #8 and #9 on the number pad.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

here’s something stupid, why not just make the jaws cursor the default cursor?
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Sandy,
To add to what Mike wrote,
You have a workspace that does not take up the entire screen, that is the area perhaps half the size of your screen, that is in the middle of the screen, but where your PC cursor is working.
Sighted people can see everything on the screen, but our PC cursor only sees the little workspace in the middle.
The Jaws cursor can read everything that is currently on the screen, like the eyes of a sighted person.
So it reads outside of your current workspace.
This may be a different program in the background, like the image of a house with a person standing in front of it.
Your PC cursor is on the person, but the Jaws cursor can see everything in the picture.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy,
 
Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy & Takis,
 
See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


I've never gotten the Jaws cursor to work on a web page.
But I've used it in applications where the PC cursor does not seem to work.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

seems like you need to know what’s on a web page to know to use the jaws cursor, which doesn’t make sense to me
 
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

This is in the JAWS help material, but, a nice way of remembering/showing how the JAWS cursor is supposed to work is that it goes where the mouse pointer can go. I don’t see many people say this, maybe because they’re not used to talking about mice, but the JAWS cursor is linked to the mouse pointer whereas the regular PC cursor is not. So, for those types of controls that tabbing around simply won’t get you to, it can be very useful, as well as reading information that is not displayed in a field you can tab to and then move your regular cursor in with arrow keys.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: April 22, 2019 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Adrian Spratt
 

But unlike the JAWS cursor, the PC cursor enables you to activate buttons, links, etc.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 4:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so what you are saying is that since the pc cursor only reads, say for example half the width of a page, the jaws cursor will read the entire page

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy,

 

Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Adrian Spratt
 

Mike and list,

 

I didn’t complicate my original response to Sandy’s query with this added detail, but you can change the area of the screen covered by the JAWS cursor. Turn on the JAWS cursor, then press JAWS key+r. Each time you press this combo, you gain access to a different area, such as the current frame.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

It might not read the entire page but, it'll read a heck of a lot more of the page than the PC cursor.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so what you are saying is that since the pc cursor only reads, say for example half the width of a page, the jaws cursor will read the entire page

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy,

 

Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

thanks
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
It might not read the entire page but, it'll read a heck of a lot more of the page than the PC cursor.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
so what you are saying is that since the pc cursor only reads, say for example half the width of a page, the jaws cursor will read the entire page
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy,
 
Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy & Takis,
 
See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

I didn’t know these things, so guess I need to use the jaws cursor more and know when to use it

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Sandy,
You could use it as your default cursor in many instances, but it would be a lot of work, as you would have to click on things, because it's the mouse pointer.
But since it's the mouse pointer, you cannot type with it.
There is a way to left and right click with the numberpad, just above the #8 and #9 on the number pad.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
here’s something stupid, why not just make the jaws cursor the default cursor?
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Sandy,
To add to what Mike wrote,
You have a workspace that does not take up the entire screen, that is the area perhaps half the size of your screen, that is in the middle of the screen, but where your PC cursor is working.
Sighted people can see everything on the screen, but our PC cursor only sees the little workspace in the middle.
The Jaws cursor can read everything that is currently on the screen, like the eyes of a sighted person.
So it reads outside of your current workspace.
This may be a different program in the background, like the image of a house with a person standing in front of it.
Your PC cursor is on the person, but the Jaws cursor can see everything in the picture.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy,
 
Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
Hi Sandy & Takis,
 
See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

with the things I’ve said to the replies, it proves to people just how confusing cursors can be. is it best to experiement with using the jaws cursor?
 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
I've never gotten the Jaws cursor to work on a web page.
But I've used it in applications where the PC cursor does not seem to work.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
seems like you need to know what’s on a web page to know to use the jaws cursor, which doesn’t make sense to me
 
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

This is in the JAWS help material, but, a nice way of remembering/showing how the JAWS cursor is supposed to work is that it goes where the mouse pointer can go. I don’t see many people say this, maybe because they’re not used to talking about mice, but the JAWS cursor is linked to the mouse pointer whereas the regular PC cursor is not. So, for those types of controls that tabbing around simply won’t get you to, it can be very useful, as well as reading information that is not displayed in a field you can tab to and then move your regular cursor in with arrow keys.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: April 22, 2019 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

JM Casey
 

The jAWS cursor is working in Firefox for me at this moment. I think that might be because I have hardware acceleration turned off. Can’t say I really use it on the web much though except to click on things with the simulated mouse sometimes.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: April 22, 2019 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I've never gotten the Jaws cursor to work on a web page.

But I've used it in applications where the PC cursor does not seem to work.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

seems like you need to know what’s on a web page to know to use the jaws cursor, which doesn’t make sense to me

 

From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:18 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

This is in the JAWS help material, but, a nice way of remembering/showing how the JAWS cursor is supposed to work is that it goes where the mouse pointer can go. I don’t see many people say this, maybe because they’re not used to talking about mice, but the JAWS cursor is linked to the mouse pointer whereas the regular PC cursor is not. So, for those types of controls that tabbing around simply won’t get you to, it can be very useful, as well as reading information that is not displayed in a field you can tab to and then move your regular cursor in with arrow keys.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: April 22, 2019 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

sandy
 

what are frames?
 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

Mike and list,

 

I didn’t complicate my original response to Sandy’s query with this added detail, but you can change the area of the screen covered by the JAWS cursor. Turn on the JAWS cursor, then press JAWS key+r. Each time you press this combo, you gain access to a different area, such as the current frame.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

It might not read the entire page but, it'll read a heck of a lot more of the page than the PC cursor.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so what you are saying is that since the pc cursor only reads, say for example half the width of a page, the jaws cursor will read the entire page

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy,

 

Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

Glenn / Lenny
 


Sandy,
It certainly won't hurt to switch to the Jaws cursor and arrow around.
I usually start out by routing the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor.
That is done with insert + jaws key.
That pulls the Jaws cursor to the window that has focus.
Glenn
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

with the things I’ve said to the replies, it proves to people just how confusing cursors can be. is it best to experiement with using the jaws cursor?
 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
I've never gotten the Jaws cursor to work on a web page.
But I've used it in applications where the PC cursor does not seem to work.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 
seems like you need to know what’s on a web page to know to use the jaws cursor, which doesn’t make sense to me
 
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
 

This is in the JAWS help material, but, a nice way of remembering/showing how the JAWS cursor is supposed to work is that it goes where the mouse pointer can go. I don’t see many people say this, maybe because they’re not used to talking about mice, but the JAWS cursor is linked to the mouse pointer whereas the regular PC cursor is not. So, for those types of controls that tabbing around simply won’t get you to, it can be very useful, as well as reading information that is not displayed in a field you can tab to and then move your regular cursor in with arrow keys.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: April 22, 2019 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019

Re: jaws cursor

JM Casey
 

Sorry if I get some of this terminology wrong, but…

pC cursor = system caret …, this is not the same as the mouse pointer. The mouse pointer moves independently of the typing cursor; if you’ve seen sighted people use the computer you see this demosntrated on a regular basis. The jAWS cursor isn’t the default because it doesn’t apply to where you type, which is pretty much the most important thing to a blind computer user. Moving around with the arrows, for instance, won’t work anywhere on the screen except in places like edit fields, where you are expected to enter text and move text around. You can’t just go to a random place on the screen and expect your arrow keys to result in the action of your cursor moving line by line, character by character, or whatever. The “virtual pC cursor” in jAWS is designed to present content on, for instance, the web, in a way that’s hypothetically similar to a document in Microsft Word, notepad and so on, so that yes, you can navigate with keys like arrows, page up, page down, search through headings, etc, etc.

 

Hope this helps a bit instead of muddying the waters even further. :D

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: April 22, 2019 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

here’s something stupid, why not just make the jaws cursor the default cursor?

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:46 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Sandy,

To add to what Mike wrote,

You have a workspace that does not take up the entire screen, that is the area perhaps half the size of your screen, that is in the middle of the screen, but where your PC cursor is working.

Sighted people can see everything on the screen, but our PC cursor only sees the little workspace in the middle.

The Jaws cursor can read everything that is currently on the screen, like the eyes of a sighted person.

So it reads outside of your current workspace.

This may be a different program in the background, like the image of a house with a person standing in front of it.

Your PC cursor is on the person, but the Jaws cursor can see everything in the picture.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 1:07 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy,

 

Maybe this'll help.  Let's say the PC cursor can only read a certain area of the screen, the Jaws cursor expands that area and reads the text outside the area that the PC cursor cannot access or read.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:18 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

no, I guess my simple mind just can’t understand different cursors, but thank you 

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:57 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

Hi Sandy & Takis,

 

See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better.

About JAWS Cursors

Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.

These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly

linked with Windows cursors.

 

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

 

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.

This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through

options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you

press.

If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor

highlights the currently selected object.

The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a

different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.

*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice

quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

 

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

 

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other

applications.

It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar

information.

The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you

therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond

the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

 

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing

the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.

You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move

to with the PC Cursor.

You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the

information currently available on the screen.

To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

 

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

 

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a

touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.

*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.

To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to

perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,

and swiping.

When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch

screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access

information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.

To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.

Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the

num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.

 

 

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the

functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an

HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet.

The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it

first opens.

For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions.

You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use

Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs,

tables, or headings.

JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned

 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws cursor

 

I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019