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Re: may need a new computer - a few questions

Lenny McHugh <LennyMcHugh@...>
 

thanks will check it out.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 11:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] may need a new computer - a few questions

Lenny,
First, I don't know whether that is indicative of a motherboard
failure, but in any event, with support for Windows 7 ending in a year
and a half, going to Windows 10 is inevitable.

There are people who use Windows Live Mail on Windows 10, so you can
hopefully install a copy if you have one; some of the sites that have
old programs archived that you can download might help.

I use LapLink PCMover to move most of my programs and data from an
older computer to a newer one. It will migrate almost anything,
including your emails, address book, a lot of other programs as well
as your settings and favorites. It is marginally accessible, it can
be done (or at least it could with the version I had) with Jaws, but
you need to be a pretty advanced user because sometimes you have to
use the OCR feature to make your choices.
The program costs about $40, but it beats the hell out of spending
several days trying to move all the data and installing all the
programs on a new PC.

Steve
Lansing, MI


On 12/31/18, Lenny McHugh <LennyMcHugh@comcast.net> wrote:
I think that my mb is going. When I power down I get a very loud static like

sound in my speakers. This set is plugged into the mb. The other internal
sound card died about 2 years ago. This is a win 7 32 bit computer.
What do you mostly use for email on a win 10 machine?
I am still using windows live mail and really do like it.
If I can not install windows live mail on a new machine how do I move all of

my saved emails to the new client?
I probably will also have a 2nd hard drive installed. I have always used
home or custome made machines. Not sure route I will take this time. If a
name brand I wonder if I would run system restore to get rid of all the junk

that they install?
thanks for any thoughts and Happy 2019 to all!


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Re: page break

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

When is it saying page break?

 

That no doubt is a verbosity setting.  Tapping the control key silences jaws for the moment like when doing a say all, but it won’t stop it doing something as specific as stopping one phrase.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of patti
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] page break

 

I press ctrl 2, and it did nothing.

Is there something else that I could do?

Patti

 

You can press the control key two of silence computer with jars. Press the controller do you do you


On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:35 AM, patti <bbk381@...> wrote:

Hey Gang,

I’m running MS2010, jaws 18 and 19,

In a document how do I stop jaws saying page break?

Thanks for your help

Patti

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Word Document 2016 and the space markers problem

Rose
 

I think shift F8 will turn that off, or it did in earlier versions of Word before the ribbons and I think after that also, have no clue what to look for on the ribbons, as I used to know so many keystrokes that accomplished the same things without looking at ribbons.  Today, well nearly four years away from using Word daily, I need those ribbons. 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Benmerzouga
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 11:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word Document 2016 and the space markers problem

 

Hello JAWS Experts,

 

I am facing this problem with my word 2016 documents yesterday and today. I do not know what I have hit and all of the sudden I have JAWS 2018 reading the word “Space Marker” whenever there is a blank space. I used to solve this problem when using JAWS 2017 by going to the ribbon and turn off something. This time I could not remember it and/or find/bump into  it.

 

I am using JAWS 2018, WINDOWS 10 AND MICROSOFT Word 2016.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Ali

 

 

 


Re: may need a new computer - a few questions

Steve
 

Lenny,
First, I don't know whether that is indicative of a motherboard
failure, but in any event, with support for Windows 7 ending in a year
and a half, going to Windows 10 is inevitable.

There are people who use Windows Live Mail on Windows 10, so you can
hopefully install a copy if you have one; some of the sites that have
old programs archived that you can download might help.

I use LapLink PCMover to move most of my programs and data from an
older computer to a newer one. It will migrate almost anything,
including your emails, address book, a lot of other programs as well
as your settings and favorites. It is marginally accessible, it can
be done (or at least it could with the version I had) with Jaws, but
you need to be a pretty advanced user because sometimes you have to
use the OCR feature to make your choices.
The program costs about $40, but it beats the hell out of spending
several days trying to move all the data and installing all the
programs on a new PC.

Steve
Lansing, MI

On 12/31/18, Lenny McHugh <LennyMcHugh@comcast.net> wrote:
I think that my mb is going. When I power down I get a very loud static like

sound in my speakers. This set is plugged into the mb. The other internal
sound card died about 2 years ago. This is a win 7 32 bit computer.
What do you mostly use for email on a win 10 machine?
I am still using windows live mail and really do like it.
If I can not install windows live mail on a new machine how do I move all of

my saved emails to the new client?
I probably will also have a 2nd hard drive installed. I have always used
home or custome made machines. Not sure route I will take this time. If a
name brand I wonder if I would run system restore to get rid of all the junk

that they install?
thanks for any thoughts and Happy 2019 to all!


---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990




Re: paper break

Dave... <dgcarlson@...>
 


Roanna, um, can you try that again, and either don't dictate, or at least check what you dictated? It's gibberish.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 06:50
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] paper break

You can press the control key two of silence computer with jars. Press the controller do you do you


On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:35 AM, patti <bbk381@...> wrote:

Hey Gang,

I’m running MS2010, jaws 18 and 19,

In a document how do I stop jaws saying page break?

Thanks for your help

Patti


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: page break

Adrian Spratt
 

Patti, I’ve never encountered this problem in Word. Is it new for you? Does it happen in more than one document? Does you hear it only when you’re in “say all” and you move from one page to the next? I don’t have any ideas yet, but if you can be more specific, maybe something will occur to me or others here.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of patti
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 11:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] page break

 

I press ctrl 2, and it did nothing.

Is there something else that I could do?

Patti

 

You can press the control key two of silence computer with jars. Press the controller do you do you


On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:35 AM, patti <bbk381@...> wrote:

Hey Gang,

I’m running MS2010, jaws 18 and 19,

In a document how do I stop jaws saying page break?

Thanks for your help

Patti

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: page break

patti
 

I press ctrl 2, and it did nothing.

Is there something else that I could do?

Patti

 

You can press the control key two of silence computer with jars. Press the controller do you do you


On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:35 AM, patti <bbk381@...> wrote:

Hey Gang,

I’m running MS2010, jaws 18 and 19,

In a document how do I stop jaws saying page break?

Thanks for your help

Patti

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

wayne smith
 

Ditto that on all counts! Thanks to all for sharing your wit and wisdom.

 

Wayne

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

 

Hi David,

 

You know, it was only a little over a year ago but,it feels like it's been longer since  Carlos has passed away.  I try to keep his knowledge / memory alive whenever I can using the many notes I saved of his and using what I learned from him that I didn't keep notes from, much like all the things I've learned from you, Rick and this list in general.  As you said, R. I. P. Carlos our friend. 

 

On a brighter note, Happy New Year to everyone and their loved ones, and thank you David for keeping this list going.

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:30 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

 

The man is gone over a year but thankfully his wisdom lives on, R. I. P. my friend.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:33 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

 

Hi Matthew,

 

Read through this thread and hopefully Carlos' notes will get you back on track.

 

Original Message

From: Mark Brett

Hi when I plug in my Seagate portable drive I notice the fan starting up and the USB bell sound but it isn’t showing in this PC using windows 8.1.  why not?

Thanks

Mark

 

From: Carlos
Perhaps Windows is not assigning the drive a letter for some reason.
 
You can try the following:
1. Open the "Run" dialog by pressing Windows key R.
 
2. Type
diskmgmt.msc
and press Enter.
 
3. When Disk Management opens, see if the drive is displayed in the list.
 
4. If you can find the drive, press the Applications key and select
"Change Drive Letter and Paths" from the context menu.
 
5. In the "Change Drive Letter and Paths" dialog, see if there is already a letter assigned in the list.
 
6. If not, select the "Add" button and select a drive letter for the disk.

 

7. If ther'es a drive letter assigned choose, Change.


Carlos
 
From: Mark Brett

Hi, I did that and it wasn’t in the list.

Mark

 

From: Carlos

It might be offline which is a bit more tricky. When "Disk Management" first opens, if you tab once you will land in the
list which displays currently available volumes whether they have a drive
letter assigned or not.  This is also the top part of "Disk Management".  If
you tab a second time, you will hear something like "DM Disk View".  This is
the bottom part of "Disk Management" and by default it is set to "Graphical
View".  This is where disks which are offline, not initialized, or do not
have a detectable partition table are listed.  It is only accessible with
the Jaws/virtual cursor.  You can manage this list in a couple of different
ways. The most convenient is to change the view mode for the bottom display.  To do this, go
to the "View" menu, choose the "Bottom" submenu, and select "Disk List".
You may have to tab back into the list after you make this change.  If your disk is being detected by Windows, you should now see it listed here.
If you still don't see the disk, there is definitely a problem.  If while scrolling through the list, you see any disks which say "Offline" or "Not Initialized"
you can press the Applications key and select
"Online"
Once the disk has been brought online, tab back to the first list/top display and if you can find it use the previous steps to assign it a drive letter.
Carlos

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Matthew Chao

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

 

Reformatted the drive using Image for Windows.  Even before I did that,
couldn't find the drive.  Turned the Hide Empty Drives option to OFF,
and still can't find the drive.  How do I assign this drive a letter?
Thanks.--Matthew Chao



On 12/31/2018 6:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> If this drive is empty, would you have, Hide empty drives, turned on by
> any chance in, File Explorer, Folder Options, / View tab / Advanced
> settings? Or, possibly this drive doesn't have a drive letter assigned
> to it.
> Take care. Go Rams!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a
> lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
> where I saved it!
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Matthew Chao <mailto:mattchao@...>
> *To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 1:54 PM
> *Subject:* [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
>
> Hi, Folks. I'm running the most current version of Jaws and Windows 10.
>  When I go into this PC and look for drives other than C: I only see
> the Blu-Ray drive, and not the USB 3.0 drive that's plugged into the
> computer. However, under the "Safely Remove" item on the System Tray,
> it's listed. How do I get the computer to see the external drive?
> Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
>
>
>
>


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.


Re: paper break

Roanna Bacchus
 

You can press the control key two of silence computer with jars. Press the controller do you do you


On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:35 AM, patti <bbk381@...> wrote:

Hey Gang,

I’m running MS2010, jaws 18 and 19,

In a document how do I stop jaws saying page break?

Thanks for your help

Patti


Virus-free. www.avast.com


paper break

patti
 

Hey Gang,

I’m running MS2010, jaws 18 and 19,

In a document how do I stop jaws saying page break?

Thanks for your help

Patti


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

Matthew Chao
 

Hi, Folks. Thanks to all who gave me advice on unhiding that drive. Will let you know how it turns out.--Matt.

On 12/31/2018 11:33 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi David,
You know, it was only a little over a year ago but,it feels like it's been longer since  Carlos has passed away.  I try to keep his knowledge / memory alive whenever I can using the many notes I saved of his and using what I learned from him that I didn't keep notes from, much like all the things I've learned from you, Rick and this list in general. As you said, R. I. P. Carlos our friend.
On a brighter note, Happy New Year to everyone and their loved ones, and thank you David for keeping this list going.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ferrin <mailto:owner@jaws-users.com>
*To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 7:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
The man is gone over a year but thankfully his wisdom lives on, R. I. P. my friend.
*From:* Mike B.
*Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 9:33 PM
*To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
Hi Matthew,
Read through this thread and hopefully Carlos' notes will get you back on track.
Original Message
From: Mark Brett
Hi when I plug in my Seagate portable drive I notice the fan starting up and the USB bell sound but it isn’t showing in this PC using windows 8.1.  why not?
Thanks
Mark
From: Carlos
Perhaps Windows is not assigning the drive a letter for some reason.
You can try the following:
1. Open the "Run" dialog by pressing Windows key R.
2. Type
diskmgmt.msc
and press Enter.
3. When Disk Management opens, see if the drive is displayed in the list.
4. If you can find the drive, press the Applications key and select
"Change Drive Letter and Paths" from the context menu.
5. In the "Change Drive Letter and Paths" dialog, see if there is already a letter assigned in the list.
6. If not, select the "Add" button and select a drive letter for the disk.
7. If ther'es a drive letter assigned choose, Change.
Carlos
From: Mark Brett
Hi, I did that and it wasn’t in the list.
Mark
From: Carlos
It might be offline which is a bit more tricky. When "Disk Management" first opens, if you tab once you will land in the
list which displays currently available volumes whether they have a drive
letter assigned or not.  This is also the top part of "Disk Management".  If
you tab a second time, you will hear something like "DM Disk View". This is
the bottom part of "Disk Management" and by default it is set to "Graphical
View".  This is where disks which are offline, not initialized, or do not
have a detectable partition table are listed. It is only accessible with
the Jaws/virtual cursor.  You can manage this list in a couple of different
ways. The most convenient is to change the view mode for the bottom display.  To do this, go
to the "View" menu, choose the "Bottom" submenu, and select "Disk List".
You may have to tab back into the list after you make this change.  If your disk is being detected by Windows, you should now see it listed here.
If you still don't see the disk, there is definitely a problem.  If while scrolling through the list, you see any disks which say "Offline" or "Not Initialized"
you can press the Applications key and select
"Online"
Once the disk has been brought online, tab back to the first list/top display and if you can find it use the previous steps to assign it a drive letter.
Carlos
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Matthew Chao
*To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io
*Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 5:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
Reformatted the drive using Image for Windows.  Even before I did that,
couldn't find the drive.  Turned the Hide Empty Drives option to OFF,
and still can't find the drive.  How do I assign this drive a letter?
Thanks.--Matthew Chao
On 12/31/2018 6:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> If this drive is empty, would you have, Hide empty drives, turned on by
> any chance in, File Explorer, Folder Options, / View tab / Advanced
> settings? Or, possibly this drive doesn't have a drive letter assigned
> to it.
> Take care. Go Rams!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a
> lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
> where I saved it!
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Matthew Chao <mailto:mattchao@verizon.net>
> *To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 1:54 PM
> *Subject:* [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
>
> Hi, Folks. I'm running the most current version of Jaws and Windows 10.
>  When I go into this PC and look for drives other than C: I only see
> the Blu-Ray drive, and not the USB 3.0 drive that's plugged into the
> computer. However, under the "Safely Remove" item on the System Tray,
> it's listed. How do I get the computer to see the external drive?
> Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
>
>
>
>
David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.


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Microsoft Security Scanner

Glenn / Lenny
 

I don't know if this works in Windows 10, but this is different from MRT.
You can download:
msert.exe
from Microsoft.
Make sure you get the right version for your computer, 32 or 64 bit.
They have the same name.
I did not know about this one until today.
It's another malware scanner from Microsoft.
 
HTH.
Glenn

Sent From My Tabletop


Re: Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi David,
 
You know, it was only a little over a year ago but,it feels like it's been longer since  Carlos has passed away.  I try to keep his knowledge / memory alive whenever I can using the many notes I saved of his and using what I learned from him that I didn't keep notes from, much like all the things I've learned from you, Rick and this list in general.  As you said, R. I. P. Carlos our friend. 
 
On a brighter note, Happy New Year to everyone and their loved ones, and thank you David for keeping this list going.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

The man is gone over a year but thankfully his wisdom lives on, R. I. P. my friend.
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
 
Hi Matthew,
 
Read through this thread and hopefully Carlos' notes will get you back on track.
 
Original Message
From: Mark Brett
Hi when I plug in my Seagate portable drive I notice the fan starting up and the USB bell sound but it isn’t showing in this PC using windows 8.1.  why not?
Thanks
Mark
 
From: Carlos
Perhaps Windows is not assigning the drive a letter for some reason.
 
You can try the following:
1. Open the "Run" dialog by pressing Windows key R.
 
2. Type
diskmgmt.msc
and press Enter.
 
3. When Disk Management opens, see if the drive is displayed in the list.
 
4. If you can find the drive, press the Applications key and select
"Change Drive Letter and Paths" from the context menu.
 
5. In the "Change Drive Letter and Paths" dialog, see if there is already a letter assigned in the list.
 
6. If not, select the "Add" button and select a drive letter for the disk.
 
7. If ther'es a drive letter assigned choose, Change.

Carlos
 
From: Mark Brett
Hi, I did that and it wasn’t in the list.
Mark
 
From: Carlos
It might be offline which is a bit more tricky. When "Disk Management" first opens, if you tab once you will land in the
list which displays currently available volumes whether they have a drive
letter assigned or not.  This is also the top part of "Disk Management".  If
you tab a second time, you will hear something like "DM Disk View".  This is
the bottom part of "Disk Management" and by default it is set to "Graphical
View".  This is where disks which are offline, not initialized, or do not
have a detectable partition table are listed.  It is only accessible with
the Jaws/virtual cursor.  You can manage this list in a couple of different
ways. The most convenient is to change the view mode for the bottom display.  To do this, go
to the "View" menu, choose the "Bottom" submenu, and select "Disk List".
You may have to tab back into the list after you make this change.  If your disk is being detected by Windows, you should now see it listed here.
If you still don't see the disk, there is definitely a problem.  If while scrolling through the list, you see any disks which say "Offline" or "Not Initialized"
you can press the Applications key and select
"Online"
Once the disk has been brought online, tab back to the first list/top display and if you can find it use the previous steps to assign it a drive letter.
Carlos
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Chao
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
 
Reformatted the drive using Image for Windows.  Even before I did that,
couldn't find the drive.  Turned the Hide Empty Drives option to OFF,
and still can't find the drive.  How do I assign this drive a letter?
Thanks.--Matthew Chao



On 12/31/2018 6:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> If this drive is empty, would you have, Hide empty drives, turned on by
> any chance in, File Explorer, Folder Options, / View tab / Advanced
> settings? Or, possibly this drive doesn't have a drive letter assigned
> to it.
> Take care. Go Rams!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a
> lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
> where I saved it!
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Matthew Chao <mailto:mattchao@...>
> *To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 1:54 PM
> *Subject:* [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
>
> Hi, Folks. I'm running the most current version of Jaws and Windows 10.
>  When I go into this PC and look for drives other than C: I only see
> the Blu-Ray drive, and not the USB 3.0 drive that's plugged into the
> computer. However, under the "Safely Remove" item on the System Tray,
> it's listed. How do I get the computer to see the external drive?
> Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
>
>
>
>



David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.


Re: Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

David Ferrin
 

The man is gone over a year but thankfully his wisdom lives on, R. I. P. my friend.
 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
 
Hi Matthew,
 
Read through this thread and hopefully Carlos' notes will get you back on track.
 
Original Message
From: Mark Brett
Hi when I plug in my Seagate portable drive I notice the fan starting up and the USB bell sound but it isn’t showing in this PC using windows 8.1.  why not?
Thanks
Mark
 
From: Carlos
Perhaps Windows is not assigning the drive a letter for some reason.
 
You can try the following:
1. Open the "Run" dialog by pressing Windows key R.
 
2. Type
diskmgmt.msc
and press Enter.
 
3. When Disk Management opens, see if the drive is displayed in the list.
 
4. If you can find the drive, press the Applications key and select
"Change Drive Letter and Paths" from the context menu.
 
5. In the "Change Drive Letter and Paths" dialog, see if there is already a letter assigned in the list.
 
6. If not, select the "Add" button and select a drive letter for the disk.
 
7. If ther'es a drive letter assigned choose, Change.

Carlos
 
From: Mark Brett
Hi, I did that and it wasn’t in the list.
Mark
 
From: Carlos
It might be offline which is a bit more tricky. When "Disk Management" first opens, if you tab once you will land in the
list which displays currently available volumes whether they have a drive
letter assigned or not.  This is also the top part of "Disk Management".  If
you tab a second time, you will hear something like "DM Disk View".  This is
the bottom part of "Disk Management" and by default it is set to "Graphical
View".  This is where disks which are offline, not initialized, or do not
have a detectable partition table are listed.  It is only accessible with
the Jaws/virtual cursor.  You can manage this list in a couple of different
ways. The most convenient is to change the view mode for the bottom display.  To do this, go
to the "View" menu, choose the "Bottom" submenu, and select "Disk List".
You may have to tab back into the list after you make this change.  If your disk is being detected by Windows, you should now see it listed here.
If you still don't see the disk, there is definitely a problem.  If while scrolling through the list, you see any disks which say "Offline" or "Not Initialized"
you can press the Applications key and select
"Online"
Once the disk has been brought online, tab back to the first list/top display and if you can find it use the previous steps to assign it a drive letter.
Carlos
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Chao
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
 
Reformatted the drive using Image for Windows.  Even before I did that,
couldn't find the drive.  Turned the Hide Empty Drives option to OFF,
and still can't find the drive.  How do I assign this drive a letter?
Thanks.--Matthew Chao



On 12/31/2018 6:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> If this drive is empty, would you have, Hide empty drives, turned on by
> any chance in, File Explorer, Folder Options, / View tab / Advanced
> settings? Or, possibly this drive doesn't have a drive letter assigned
> to it.
> Take care. Go Rams!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a
> lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
> where I saved it!
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Matthew Chao <mailto:mattchao@...>
> *To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 1:54 PM
> *Subject:* [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
>
> Hi, Folks. I'm running the most current version of Jaws and Windows 10.
>  When I go into this PC and look for drives other than C: I only see
> the Blu-Ray drive, and not the USB 3.0 drive that's plugged into the
> computer. However, under the "Safely Remove" item on the System Tray,
> it's listed. How do I get the computer to see the external drive?
> Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
>
>
>
>



David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.


Re: Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Matthew,
 
Read through this thread and hopefully Carlos' notes will get you back on track.
 
Original Message 
From: Mark Brett
Hi when I plug in my Seagate portable drive I notice the fan starting up and the USB bell sound but it isn’t showing in this PC using windows 8.1.  why not?
Thanks
Mark
 
From: Carlos
Perhaps Windows is not assigning the drive a letter for some reason.
 
You can try the following:
1. Open the "Run" dialog by pressing Windows key R.
 
2. Type
diskmgmt.msc
and press Enter.
 
3. When Disk Management opens, see if the drive is displayed in the list.
 
4. If you can find the drive, press the Applications key and select
"Change Drive Letter and Paths" from the context menu.
 
5. In the "Change Drive Letter and Paths" dialog, see if there is already a letter assigned in the list.
 
6. If not, select the "Add" button and select a drive letter for the disk.
 
7. If ther'es a drive letter assigned choose, Change.

Carlos
 
From: Mark Brett
Hi, I did that and it wasn’t in the list.
Mark 
 
From: Carlos
It might be offline which is a bit more tricky. When "Disk Management" first opens, if you tab once you will land in the
list which displays currently available volumes whether they have a drive
letter assigned or not.  This is also the top part of "Disk Management".  If
you tab a second time, you will hear something like "DM Disk View".  This is
the bottom part of "Disk Management" and by default it is set to "Graphical
View".  This is where disks which are offline, not initialized, or do not
have a detectable partition table are listed.  It is only accessible with
the Jaws/virtual cursor.  You can manage this list in a couple of different
ways. The most convenient is to change the view mode for the bottom display.  To do this, go
to the "View" menu, choose the "Bottom" submenu, and select "Disk List".
You may have to tab back into the list after you make this change.  If your disk is being detected by Windows, you should now see it listed here.
If you still don't see the disk, there is definitely a problem.  If while scrolling through the list, you see any disks which say "Offline" or "Not Initialized"
you can press the Applications key and select
"Online"
Once the disk has been brought online, tab back to the first list/top display and if you can find it use the previous steps to assign it a drive letter.
Carlos
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

Reformatted the drive using Image for Windows.  Even before I did that,
couldn't find the drive.  Turned the Hide Empty Drives option to OFF,
and still can't find the drive.  How do I assign this drive a letter?
Thanks.--Matthew Chao



On 12/31/2018 6:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> If this drive is empty, would you have, Hide empty drives, turned on by
> any chance in, File Explorer, Folder Options, / View tab / Advanced
> settings? Or, possibly this drive doesn't have a drive letter assigned
> to it.
> Take care. Go Rams!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a
> lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
> where I saved it!
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Matthew Chao <mailto:mattchao@...>
> *To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 1:54 PM
> *Subject:* [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
>
> Hi, Folks. I'm running the most current version of Jaws and Windows 10.
>  When I go into this PC and look for drives other than C: I only see
> the Blu-Ray drive, and not the USB 3.0 drive that's plugged into the
> computer. However, under the "Safely Remove" item on the System Tray,
> it's listed. How do I get the computer to see the external drive?
> Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
>
>
>
>



Re: Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

Matthew Chao
 

Reformatted the drive using Image for Windows. Even before I did that, couldn't find the drive. Turned the Hide Empty Drives option to OFF, and still can't find the drive. How do I assign this drive a letter? Thanks.--Matthew Chao

On 12/31/2018 6:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Matthew,
If this drive is empty, would you have, Hide empty drives, turned on by any chance in, File Explorer, Folder Options, / View tab / Advanced settings?  Or, possibly this drive doesn't have a drive letter assigned to it.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Matthew Chao <mailto:mattchao@verizon.net>
*To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 1:54 PM
*Subject:* [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?
Hi, Folks.  I'm running the most current version of Jaws and Windows 10.
  When I go into this PC and look for drives other than C: I only see
the Blu-Ray drive, and not the USB 3.0 drive that's plugged into the
computer.  However, under the "Safely Remove" item on the System Tray,
it's listed.  How do I get the computer to see the external drive?
Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao


EasyWorship Program - Is It JAWS-Friendly

michele thredgold
 

Happy new year everybody! Hope you all had a good one.

I was wondering if any JAWS users have come into contact with a program called EasyWorship. It's a program my church is using to access lyrics for church services and I believe you can also access recordings of the songs as well. I think the lyrics are, or can be translated into, powerpoints or into Word.

As I'm not confident with checking out a new program with no prior knowledge of its interface, I thought I'd ask on this list first if anyone else has had success using this program. I've been told that you can use keyboard shortcuts to control it, but I'm not sure whether this is for everything or not. It certainly would be an invaluable source of worship material for me, if it is accessible. I've also been advised that, if it's accessible, the church can register me as a user, so I won't have to pay for it.

Would really appreciate any helpful feedback.

Cheers!

Michele
Sent from my iPhone


Re: Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Matthew,
 
If this drive is empty, would you have, Hide empty drives, turned on by any chance in, File Explorer, Folder Options, / View tab / Advanced settings?  Or, possibly this drive doesn't have a drive letter assigned to it.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Hidden Drive: How Do I Unhide It?

Hi, Folks.  I'm running the most current version of Jaws and Windows 10.
  When I go into this PC and look for drives other than C: I only see
the Blu-Ray drive, and not the USB 3.0 drive that's plugged into the
computer.  However, under the "Safely Remove" item on the System Tray,
it's listed.  How do I get the computer to see the external drive?
Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao




Re: best browser for jaws 17

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


I am trying out Waterfox. So far it is working very good.

----- Original Message -----
From: John M.
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] best browser for jaws 17

Hi Sandy,


I am currently using Firefox 55.0.3 with Jaws 16 and it works fine. It
should also work with Jaws 17. I gave up on Jaws 17 after about 6
months, because of the constant crashes. I tried Jaws 18 when it came
out, but the crashes continued. I have a perfectly stable, usable
Windows 7 system with Jaws 16, Firefox 55 and Office 2010. Jaws never
crashes (I probably just jinxed myself) and I can get my work done,
which is the most important thing to me. Just be advised that Firefox 55
is a bit over a year old now, so it does not have all of the latest
security updates. But if you use the Internet in a responsible manner,
you should be ok. Also, if you have a version of Firefox newer than 55
already installed on your computer, you will have to uninstall it prior
to installing version 55. Here is a link that will take you to the
download page for the Windows 64-bit English version of FF 55.0.3:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/55.0.3/win64/en-US/


Best,

John



On 12/31/2018 2:36 PM, sandy wrote:
> thank you
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Gassman
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 1:30 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@groups.io ; jaws-users-list@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [jaws-users] best browser for jaws 17
>
> Sandy,
> A good deal of the major development for Google Chrome was done
> beginning with JAWS 2018.
> Some Chrome works with 17 but, you'll get better results with 2018 or
> 2019 if you can afford the $90 per year and update to 2019 via the
> home annual subscription on the FS web pagelocated in the e-store.
> go to the FS page and find the shop link.
>
> You can pay $90 and upgrade right from JAWS 17 to the current JAWS.
> Johne
> At 10:39 AM 12/31/2018, JM Casey wrote:
>> You won't be able to use Firefox anymore because of their changed
>> architecture that only works properly with JAWS 2018 or another
>> screen-reader, or Edge (assuming you have Windows 10), because there
>> is no Edge support in anything prior to the final build of JAWS 18.
>> Some people have reported success with Waterfox, which uses Firefox
>> legacy code. I don't know about Waterfox, myself; I don't know how
>> well it is really supported by its developer and I am a bit cautious
>> about it. I'm also not sure how much success you'll have with Chrome,
>> but I believe . updated Chrome still works fine with JAWS 18, so your
>> best bet might be to try it.
>> Otherwise, you might have to run IE if you're determined to keep
>> using that JAWS version.
>>
>> From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf
>> Of sandy
>> Sent: December 31, 2018 6:34 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
>> Subject: [jaws-users] best browser for jaws 17
>>
>> I have jaws 17 on 3 computers, and have found that different browsers
>> work differently from each other, and would like to know what is the
>> best browser to use with jaws 17
>>
>
>
> JAWS Certified, 2014.
> http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>



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