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Control-F Inconsistent for Searching in Word 2010

Rebecca Lineberger
 

Brian, I just have to add my thanks for this too.
I'd been using the JAWS-Find command, or the f6 and the space bar to move through the document. Now the Word control-f and shift f4, (find next), work as they should.
Your directions were perfect for my 2010. Smile.
Rebecca

----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Control-F Inconsistent for Searching in Word 2010

Hello Margaret,

Here are the steps for getting CTRL+F to work in the traditional manner. These steps work in Word 2013. I don't have Word 2016 but I think they should also work in that version of Word.

1. Use Alt with F followed by T to go into the Word options.
2. In the list of categories either use down arrow or press the letter C until you get to the “customize ribbon” category.
3. Press Alt with T to use the customize button.
4. Use down arrow until you get to the Home tab.
5. Tab to the commands list.
6. In the commands list press E until you find the “EditFind” command.
7. Tab a couple times to the “press new shortcut key” box.
8. Press CTRL with F.
9. Tab to the Save Changes In box and choose Normal.DOTM.
10. Tab to the Assign button and press spacebar.
11. Tab to the Close button and use spacebar.
12. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianllee@...

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: July 25, 2018 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Control-F Inconsistent for Searching in Word 2010

Thank you very much for this, Adrian. The JAWS Find command seems to work consistently here and I'm used to using it with other programs.

I'll look for the discussion from several months ago.

Some time ago, I found an old post from someone on one of the lists that I'm on that I think gave instructions for modifying Word so Control-F would work properly. Unfortunately, I had a roaring headache at the time and saved it in one of my e-mail folders figuring I'd remember where I moved it and could try it when I was feeling better. Now, I don't remember which list it was on or who the poster was.

Margaret
On 7/25/2018 2:46 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
First, for most purposes, the JAWS find command works more consistently: JAWS key+control+f. It will search only for whole words.
Second, this list had a lengthy thread on this very subject a few
months ago. I don't think we came together as a group on this one. I find that the first time I press control-f, nothing seems to happen. However, pressing it a second time and typing in the search string always works. After that, I Listen carefully to what JAWS says. Moving to the next instance requires the spacebar.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf
Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:21 PM
To: JAWS-Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Control-F Inconsistent for Searching in Word
2010

Good Afternoon, All:

Months ago I started having a problem searching for text in Word 2010 documents running JAWS 18 on my Windows 7 64 bit Home machine. The Control-F command is very Inconsistent and often works only one time out of six or more times or even a dozen. I've try pressing Control-F several times quickly when the normal one fails since I thought I saw a post somewhere that that helps and it still isn't consistent and it often takes more than a half dozen tries to search. Sometimes Control-F doesn't even work the first time I use it that day with a Word document. I've even tried the other Control key in case the problem was with the right hand one.

I renewed my JAWS SMA and installed J2018 and still have the same problem. Control-F seems to work every time with J16 and 17; and also with NVDA2018.1.1 and also worked consistently with NVDA 2017.x.

When I press Control-F with JAWS, JAWS says nothing at all instead of
something like navigation pane and search box where I can type in what
I want to

search for and then hit enter.

Any help getting Control-F to work with JAWS18 and 2018 would be greatly appreciated. I use Thunderbird for e-mail and JAWS 2018 works better for me than some of the previous versions of JAWS and that's why I am using it.

Margaret





Re: Windows 10 & JAWS

Vicki W
 

This is very helpful.
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Windows 10 & JAWS

Settings – well it’s completely up to you. Mostly what I did is get rid of a lot of stuff. Most of the modern Universal-style apps are useless to me, so I just cleared them out. Set folder views to details. Tightened up the privacy settings a bit. Nothing at all to do with JAWS or being a blind user though. It’s a matter of personal preference, and all I can suggest is that you play around with Windows 10 for a while, and see what you like, and what you don’t like. It’s quite customisable really if you know what you want to achieve, do some google searching if a method isn’t immediately obvious and you will probably find a way.

 

As for tutorials, there are the guides from VIP software dealing with the taskbar and File Explorer. Those I found quite useful.

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/

 

 

Another useful thing is the list of run commands. This isn’t exclusive to Windows 10, but I think it’s particularly useful for blind users because, if you become accustomed to it, along with the Windows search box,  virtually eliminates the need for most of the windows menus. You can use your computer like a boss (or at least, as quickly as a lot of sighted people can) once you learn to just type a few keystrokes to get where you want.

https://www.pcsteps.com/1675-run-command-complete-list-windows/

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: July 26, 2018 4:05 PM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Windows 10 & JAWS

 

Are there any special settings for Windows 10 that need to be taken care of by JAWS users?

 

Also, are there any tutorials for Windows 10 for blind users?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

Re: Windows 10 & JAWS

andy t
 

Hello Vicki, there is a link to our one drive page at the end of every email if you open this link you will find quite a few items to help you set up windows 10 to work better with jaws just give it a try.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:05 PM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Windows 10 & JAWS

 

Are there any special settings for Windows 10 that need to be taken care of by JAWS users?

 

Also, are there any tutorials for Windows 10 for blind users?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

Re: Windows 10 & JAWS

andy t
 

Sorry I thought I was on another list.

I am just trying to get familiar with outlook and jumped the gun.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:05 PM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Windows 10 & JAWS

 

Are there any special settings for Windows 10 that need to be taken care of by JAWS users?

 

Also, are there any tutorials for Windows 10 for blind users?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

JAWS with Workday software for HR

Van Lant, Robin
 

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Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

Michelle Clark
 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle

Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Hey.

 

Ctrl-f4 will work for tabs, and “sub-windows”. It won’t close the programme but will close whatever page or document you have open. This works in mS Word, so it might for outlook as well. It also works in most (all?) web browsers, programmes, that have a tab structure, etc.

 

Otherwise, your best bet is to close a programme using its menus. Sometimes it’s as simple as pressing alt-f, x. This will work in outlook. This is usually a more surefire way to close a programme if the option is available, because some programmes stay running even if you use alt-f4, they just don’t have a window on the screen. An example is the torrent programme I use.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: July 26, 2018 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle

Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

Adrian Spratt
 

Try control-w. I just tested it in Chrome and IE, and it closed one window at a time.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle

Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hello, Control+w should close the window for you.

 

Good luck!

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle


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Re: Windows 10 & JAWS

Vicki W
 

Haha! No wonder I was confused! Nice to know I'm not completely crazy, but I did find some thing on the JAWS help page which I missed before, so thank you!
 
Vicki
 

----- Original Message -----
From: andy t
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Windows 10 & JAWS

Sorry I thought I was on another list.

I am just trying to get familiar with outlook and jumped the gun.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:05 PM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Windows 10 & JAWS

 

Are there any special settings for Windows 10 that need to be taken care of by JAWS users?

 

Also, are there any tutorials for Windows 10 for blind users?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

Would anyone have keyboard commands for outlook mail program?

Ron Kolesar
 

Hi to all.
I don't really want to go to the MS mail app.
I've tried it twice and had it removed twice.
I have WLM but it's starting to decay on me.
So, I've been practicing with the outlook mail program.
In my in box I have some mailboxes that I'd like to delete but I've tried shift delete and no luck.
I've tried the app key and down arrowed looking for the delete key and no luck.
I've even tried the ctrl key and delete and no luck.
Yes I was on the folder or AKA Mailbox I wanted to remove.
So any help and help with deleting mailboxes and or AKA folders would be helpful.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron U.S. ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM
Which Stands for
Pennsylvania West County Emergency Com-Tree Manager.

A letter for Vicki.

Ron Kolesar
 

Hi Vicki, from Ron Kolesar. You might want to subscribe to the following list. Windows 10 Screen Reader User's Mailing List
To subscribe to the list:
Send a blank letter to the following address:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Then once confirmed, letters to the list go to the following address:
win10@win10.groups.io
HTH. Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM

Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

lyacks@...
 

Hi,

 

You might also try the “FN” key plus the alt plus f4. I have to use the fn key on all of my function keys because, in their infinant wisdom, HP assigned all the function keys, when pressed by themselves, to other commands. HTH. Linda Yacks

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle

Re: A letter for Vicki.

Vicki W
 

Thank you, but I don't think the subscribing address is correct. It's the address for this list.

I think I may have the other unless it has changed.

Tanks.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@...>
To: "JAWS User's Mailing List" <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] A letter for Vicki.


Hi Vicki, from Ron Kolesar. You might want to subscribe to the following list. Windows 10 Screen Reader User's Mailing List
To subscribe to the list:
Send a blank letter to the following address:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Then once confirmed, letters to the list go to the following address:
win10@win10.groups.io
HTH. Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM

Re: A letter for Vicki.

andy t
 

Hello Vicki, just encase you or any one else is interested you are welcome
to come over and join us at windows 10 and jaws.
The subscribe address is
Windows10AndJaws+subscribe@groups.io
We would be glad to have any of you there and if there is any VFO or freedom
scientific or Microsoft staff we could use you and your knowledge.
Thanks for reading this.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Vicki W
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] A letter for Vicki.

Thank you, but I don't think the subscribing address is correct. It's the
address for this list.

I think I may have the other unless it has changed.

Tanks.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@...>
To: "JAWS User's Mailing List" <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] A letter for Vicki.


Hi Vicki, from Ron Kolesar. You might want to subscribe to the following
list. Windows 10 Screen Reader User's Mailing List
To subscribe to the list:
Send a blank letter to the following address:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Then once confirmed, letters to the list go to the following address:
win10@win10.groups.io
HTH. Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM


Re: Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

Justin Williams
 

Control w, and control f4.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello, Control+w should close the window for you.

 

Good luck!

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle Clark via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Other Keys for Closing Documents and Outlook

 

Hello,

 

At work, I am using Windows and JAWS 2018 . Due to a special script, which is turning out not to be so special, I cannot use Alt, F4 to close many windows. Can anyone give me another manner in which to close these things?

 

I found it at one point but did not document it as I thought I would remember, however, age does some tricks on some people. I appreciate any help I can get so I can stop doing forced system swhen I have too many opened windows.

 

Thanks,

 

Michelle

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: A letter for Vicki.

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Do they still post poetry and christian paeans
To the list? I'd consider resubscribing if the policy has changed.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
andy t
Sent: July 26, 2018 9:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] A letter for Vicki.

Hello Vicki, just encase you or any one else is interested you are welcome
to come over and join us at windows 10 and jaws.
The subscribe address is
Windows10AndJaws+subscribe@groups.io
We would be glad to have any of you there and if there is any VFO or freedom
scientific or Microsoft staff we could use you and your knowledge.
Thanks for reading this.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Vicki W
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] A letter for Vicki.

Thank you, but I don't think the subscribing address is correct. It's the
address for this list.

I think I may have the other unless it has changed.

Tanks.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@...>
To: "JAWS User's Mailing List" <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] A letter for Vicki.


Hi Vicki, from Ron Kolesar. You might want to subscribe to the
following list. Windows 10 Screen Reader User's Mailing List To
subscribe to the list:
Send a blank letter to the following address:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Then once confirmed, letters to the list go to the following address:
win10@win10.groups.io
HTH. Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM


Re: A letter for Vicki.

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

Hi Ron
We do not use member names in the subjecgt line,
please refer to the list guidelines.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@...>
To: "JAWS User's Mailing List" <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:58 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] A letter for Vicki.


Hi Vicki, from Ron Kolesar.
You might want to subscribe to the following list.
Windows 10 Screen Reader User's Mailing List
To subscribe to the list:
Send a blank letter to the following address:
jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io
Then once confirmed, letters to the list go to the following address:
win10@win10.groups.io
HTH.
Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM

Re: Would anyone have keyboard commands for outlook mail program?

Adrian Spratt
 

Ron, be sure to put yourself in the folders list with control-y. Arrow down or go by first letter to the folder you want to delete. Then pressing the delete key should work. If not, please post again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:47 PM
To: JAWS User's Mailing List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Would anyone have keyboard commands for outlook mail program?

Hi to all.
I don't really want to go to the MS mail app.
I've tried it twice and had it removed twice.
I have WLM but it's starting to decay on me.
So, I've been practicing with the outlook mail program.
In my in box I have some mailboxes that I'd like to delete but I've tried shift delete and no luck.
I've tried the app key and down arrowed looking for the delete key and no luck.
I've even tried the ctrl key and delete and no luck.
Yes I was on the folder or AKA Mailbox I wanted to remove.
So any help and help with deleting mailboxes and or AKA folders would be helpful.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron U.S. ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM Which Stands for Pennsylvania West County Emergency Com-Tree Manager.

Re: Would anyone have keyboard commands for outlook mail program?

ely.r@...
 

Ron,
When you are on a particular mailbox, try pressing the context key. It
should provide a whole range of choices including delete.
Hope that helps,
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron
Kolesar
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:47 PM
To: JAWS User's Mailing List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Would anyone have keyboard commands for outlook mail
program?

Hi to all.
I don't really want to go to the MS mail app.
I've tried it twice and had it removed twice.
I have WLM but it's starting to decay on me.
So, I've been practicing with the outlook mail program.
In my in box I have some mailboxes that I'd like to delete but I've tried
shift delete and no luck.
I've tried the app key and down arrowed looking for the delete key and no
luck.
I've even tried the ctrl key and delete and no luck.
Yes I was on the folder or AKA Mailbox I wanted to remove.
So any help and help with deleting mailboxes and or AKA folders would be
helpful.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron U.S. ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM Which Stands for Pennsylvania
West County Emergency Com-Tree Manager.