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Re: Reading PDF files with edge
Rose
No Adobe seems to be up to date but it seems also not to work.
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Reading PDF files with edge Can you open the file with Adobe instead of Edge??? At 09:56 AM 10/12/2018, you wrote: Yeah, used to work on the files I am trying to read but no longer.information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the
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Re: chrome
Marie <scribbles5@...>
You are the second one today to say that you have to down arrow after the
alt+f and before pressing the letter B. I never have to press the down arrow and
I go right to my bookmarks. Just another of those funny quirks in the world of
computer I guess.
Marie
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.
Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.
Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear. Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon. Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register. You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter. Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset. If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled. To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.
Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone. First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer. Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box. When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list. I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks. Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.
A note on my previous Chrome post. I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.
I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.
Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
<jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
From:
jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.
Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.
Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.
The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.
If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
<jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
I have found that I need all three. Different browsers for different pages. Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: [jaws-users] chrome
What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying? --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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Wells Fargo Web Site and Chrome
Paul Hunt <prhunt1@...>
Hello everybody. I’m trying to use Wells Fargo with Chrome. When I look at my accounts, I don’t see the tables. If I launch Wells Fargo with Chrome on my iPhone and access the desktop site, I see tables. This behavior happens with JAWS 2018 and 2019. I’m not sure what’s going on. I’m wondering if Chrome is accessing the mobile site? If so, how can I tell Chrome to access the desktop?
Any ideas? Thanks so much. Paul
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Re: chrome
Adrian Spratt
As I said, they usually do for me. If they don’t, as in the mute situation I mentioned, sometimes I need to find a play button. There is one website I visit where the audio does not play and there’s no play button. The same is true for that website when I use IE. However, I can get to the play button on that webpage with Firefox. This is a rare exception. Mostly, when I use Chrome, Audio streams start up right away when I land on a webpage playing one.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome
They don’t automatically play in chrome.
From:
jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.
Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.
Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear. Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon. Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register. You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter. Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset. If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled. To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.
Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone. First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer. Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box. When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list. I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks. Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.
A note on my previous Chrome post. I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.
I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.
Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dennis L
If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
From:
jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.
Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.
Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.
The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.
If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
I have found that I need all three. Different browsers for different pages. Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: [jaws-users] chrome
What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying? --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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Re: chrome
Dennis L
They don’t automatically play in chrome.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome
Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.
Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.
Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear. Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon. Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register. You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter. Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset. If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled. To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.
Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone. First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer. Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box. When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list. I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks. Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.
A note on my previous Chrome post. I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.
I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.
Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.
Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.
Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.
The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.
If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
I have found that I need all three. Different browsers for different pages. Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: [jaws-users] chrome
What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying? --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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To Access Favorites In Chrome
Rebecca Lineberger
I have Windows 10, 1809, the latest version of both JAWS and Chrome. I find Chrome just as easy as IE, once you get used to the different menu structure. The Favorites in Chrome are called Bookmarks. So to access my Bookmarks: I press the alt key to open the menu. I find that it’s necessary to arrow down once before using shortcut keys. So I arrow down once, then press b for bookmarks. You can do several things at this point. Either press enter to open it, or press right arrow instead, which does the same thing. Arrow down to what you are looking for and press enter. However, you can also use shortcut keys. So after I’ve pressed b for bookmark, I press either o for other, which is where Chrome stores the bookmarks I’ve created in Chrome. I imported my favorites from IE though, so if I want one of those instead, I press i twice till it says imported from IE. Press enter or right arrow to open the menu. If you haven’t imported your favorites from IE, you’ll want i for import bookmarks and settings. If you’re using Chrome and are on a website that you want to add to your bookmarks, you do it the same way you did in IE. Press control-d and then enter. Before you press enter, you can edit the name. I haven’t created a folder structure in Chrome as I did in IE, but it’s easy enough just to arrow down the list at this point to find what I want. David Moore posted a helpful tutorial he wrote for Chrome on this list. It’s probably on the JAWS help page too, though I didn’t check to confirm this. HTH. Rebecca
A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open.
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Re: chrome
Adrian Spratt
Here’s how I work with Chrome’s bookmarks. First, some basics.
Bookmarks are to Chrome what favorites are to Internet Explorer.
Open Chrome and go to a page, any page, such as your default homepage. Make sure that once open, the page isn’t blank. Sometimes I open Chrome to my default homepage, but nothing is there. If that’s the case, press F5 and it should appear. Now press the alt key to open the Chrome menu. Note that this menu isn’t structured the way many of us were familiar with in the pre-ribbon days, nor is it a ribbon. Arrow up or down once to get into the menu, then press b for bookmark. If you don’t first do this arrow keystroke, “b” doesn’t register. You’ll land on a bookmarks submenu. Press enter. Now you can arrow up or down through the bookmark options, including any bookmarks you’ve preset. If you wish to import bookmarks from another browser, you’ll see that option clearly labeled. To create a new bookmark, you don’t need to be in these menus. As with IE, press control-d on the page you want to return to. Chrome, like IE, gives you the option to edit the bookmark’s name.
Now for some pointers that work for me but that I don’t fully understand. They may not work for everyone. First, a limitation is that imported bookmarks are kept separate from those you create with Chrome. If anyone knows how to merge all Chrome bookmarks into one convenient place, I’d love the answer. Second, an item in the Chrome menu enables you to “show bookmarks bar.” I believe the default is unchecked; I checked it. I’m not really sure what this bar does for JAWS users, but it’s almost certainly the reason why something very useful happened after I checked this box. When in Chrome, with the bookmarks bar checked, I can press F6 to get to my IE bookmarks. When I first open Chrome, I just need to press F6 once. After I’ve opened a page, two presses bring up this list. I press enter, then arrow down or first-letter navigate through my imported IE bookmarks. Why only IE bookmarks show up in the F6 is a mystery to me. However, since almost all my long-established bookmarks are there, I’m content. Otherwise, for newly created bookmarks, I go to the Chrome menu with alt, arrow up or down once, press b, then enter, and then arrow up through the new list.
A note on my previous Chrome post. I mentioned Chrome’s reliance on headers. I should have explained that this is the case in the “Settings” section of the Chrome menu.
I find Chrome’s menu structure clunky but workable. It was when my IE favorites started showing up with F6 that I felt I could work with it. I do a lot of online research, and there’s no doubt that Chrome gives access to more websites than the other two leading windows browsers, and also better access than most to each website once it is opened. There are exceptions, which is why I keep IE and Firefox.
Dennis, I don’t know why audio streams aren’t automatically playing for you. They do for me, unless I’ve accidentally muted my speakers or a website.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome
If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
From:
jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.
Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.
Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.
The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.
If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
I have found that I need all three. Different browsers for different pages. Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: [jaws-users] chrome
What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying? --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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Re: chrome
Mike Ulrich
The blind, once again; making sizzling progress with accessible technology
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"One step forward, Four steps back" I'm bout ready to throw out all my technology and go off the grid. Folks, it wasn't that long ago; when we didn't have to spend good money for the latest updates, only to find numerous nonaccessibilities! I'm fed up! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! “Providing Insight for Blindness” Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member Home Phone: 239-540-7431 Cell phone: 239-565-5845 Email: mulrich@centurylink.net
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheryl Traub Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome I never got Chrom to work for me. I still use IE 11. Firefox hasn't worked for me either. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao Sent: October 13, 2018 9:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome I used Chrome on the Social Security Web site, and it missed some crucial radio buttons. As a result, I got locked out of my account. Yet, when I went into IE to do the same thing, everything showed up. So, go figure. We need to use all the browsers available to us. One size does not fit all.--Matthew Chao On 10/13/2018 9:01 AM, Dennis L wrote: If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. Butlate and I don�t have a ton of other things to do.
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Re: chrome
Marie <scribbles5@...>
To access favorites, press alt+f then the letter b and arrow down to your
list of favorites. To create a favorite quickly, when on the page you wish to
bookmark, press ctrl + d.
Marie
From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
From:
jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.
Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.
Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.
The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.
If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
<jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
I have found that I need all three. Different browsers for different pages. Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: [jaws-users] chrome
What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying? --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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Re: chrome
Cheryl Traub
I never got Chrom to work for me. I still use IE 11. Firefox hasn't worked
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for me either.
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao Sent: October 13, 2018 9:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome I used Chrome on the Social Security Web site, and it missed some crucial radio buttons. As a result, I got locked out of my account. Yet, when I went into IE to do the same thing, everything showed up. So, go figure. We need to use all the browsers available to us. One size does not fit all.--Matthew Chao On 10/13/2018 9:01 AM, Dennis L wrote: If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. Butlate and I don�t have a ton of other things to do.
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Re: chrome
Glenn / Lenny
I can't comment on the flash, but for favorites, I
just tap the menu button and arrow down, there is probably a letter for
it.
But in Chrome, if it is in your favorites, you can
do control + L and start typing the name and it will auto fill the
rest.
Glenn
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From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
[mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.
Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.
Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.
The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.
If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On
Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
I have found that I need all three. Different browsers for different pages. Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: [jaws-users] chrome
What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying? --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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Re: chrome
Matthew Chao
I used Chrome on the Social Security Web site, and it missed some crucial radio buttons. As a result, I got locked out of my account. Yet, when I went into IE to do the same thing, everything showed up. So, go figure. We need to use all the browsers available to us. One size does not fit all.--Matthew Chao
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On 10/13/2018 9:01 AM, Dennis L wrote:
If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
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Re: chrome
Dennis L
If someone could explain how to quickly access favorites and how to auto play flash streams this would be appreciated.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] chrome
I agree that all three browsers are now needed, but I’d like to reinforce Chrome as first choice for primary browser. I was a very reluctant adopter of Chrome, as I made clear when I argued with another lister that it wasn’t completely accessible. In fact, it wasn’t at the time. After my first experiment or two with it, I went back to IE11. But IE11 works with increasingly fewer websites. Meanwhile, Chrome’s accessibility kept improving.
Firefox is a mystery to me. One moment JAWS catches up to it, the next JAWS and Firefox are incompatible. Right now, there’s one website I regularly visit that works only with the current version of Firefox. The daily video at that website can’t be found with either chrome or IE11, but its’ right there with Firefox.
Chrome works mostly like IE and Firefox. All the navigation commands work the same. The big difference is its menu structure. But once I figured out how to gain fast access to the favorites that I’d transferred over from IE, everything else was minor.
The menu structure is navigated by a combination of the alt key and h for headers. I have Mike B to thank for pointing that out. So, you press the alt key to enter the file menu. Then you press h until you find a heading that might be relevant to what you want. Then you arrow down through the options.
If I need to explain favorites, I’ll gladly do so when it isn’t so late and I don’t have a ton of other things to do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
I have found that I need all three. Different browsers for different pages. Usually Chrome works well, I just don't prefer it because it is substantially different. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: [jaws-users] chrome
What works better fire fox or chrome. Using latest jaws 2018. I was having problems reading our local paper and they suggested that I do not use I.E. but fire fox or chrome and preferably chrome. I have not installed it yet. Just wondering if it is worth trying? --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
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Re: USPS issue.
Glenn / Lenny
Hi Judy,
This is for the list as well as you more than ever
because folks need to know about a web page change of recent.
Due to the excessive amount of information on web
pages these days and also, many people using smart phones for going on-line, web
pages are being condensed , and that is the case for this page.
So now we have to look for something that reads as
collapsed or closed.
In this instance, you will look for
quick tools collapsed
and press the space bar, and it will open up more
options, and you will get the link to track packages, and then you follow that
link, and then you will have a usable edit field.
I'm using Windows 7 and IE in this
case.
HTH.
Glenn
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From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 9:09 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] USPS issue. Hi, Folks,
I have been using USPS for years to ship packages. I get on today, only to find out that the edit fields are unavailable to weigh a package. I’m having a little hissy-fit, because the package I am trying to mail is expected.
My question. Has anyone else seen this problem?
To duplicate, go to www.usps.com, sign in, create a label, and fill in fields until you get to the package section. I check the box for ship my own package, and a couple of edit fields appear for Pounds and Ounces, except that Jaws reports they are unavailable.
I’ve tried filling in one edit field at a time, or simply tabbing through the process withedit fields open, but it skips the weight fields.
I am using Windows 10 with Jaws 18.
Thanks for reporting back, and if you have any ideas for me, will gladly try anything. If all else fails, I will take the package for mailing, but am so tired of this cavalaire attitude of changing sites and throwing up road blocks for people using access technology. I know this problem will not go away, in general, but had to vent hahahaha!
Thanks much.
Judy
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Re: USPS issue.
Gerald Levy
Have you tried a different browser? If you are using IE, try Firefox
or Chrome to see whether you still encounter this problem.
Gerald
Hi, Folks,
I have been using USPS for years to ship packages. I get on today, only to find out that the edit fields are unavailable to weigh a package. I’m having a little hissy-fit, because the package I am trying to mail is expected.
My question. Has anyone else seen this problem?
To duplicate, go to www.usps.com, sign in, create a label, an fill in fields until you get to the package section. I check the box for ship my own package, and a couple of edit fields appear for Pounds and Ounces, except that Jaws reports they are unavailable.
I’ve tried filling in one edit field at a time, or simply tabbing through the process withedit fields open, but it skips the weight fields.
I am using Windows 10 with Jaws 18.
Thanks for reporting back, and if you have any ideas for me, will gladly try anything. If all else fails, I will take the package for mailing, but am so tired of this cavalaire attitude of changing sites and throwing up road blocks for people using access technology. I know this problem will not go away, in general, but had to vent hahahaha!
Thanks much.
Judy
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Re: Saving or forwarding a you tube article
Fred Adams
Mr Ed, thanks much. I will
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give this a try.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups .io] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving or forwarding a you tube article Hi Fred, Try this. 1. Start the youtube playing. 2. Now press alt+D. This will highlight the web address. 3. Now press ctrl + C to copy the web address to the clip board. Now you can paste the web address in an email to email it to someone or you can paste it into a note pad or word and save the link to open it later. Hope this does what you want. Mr. Ed -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups .io] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 9:52 AM To: jaws-users IO Subject: [jaws-users] Saving or forwarding a you tube article I am using W 10, jaws 2019 beta and chrome browser and I would like to know if it is possible to save or forward an article that I am listening to on you tube without saving or forwarding every article on the you tube list. I will appreciate any suggestions on this. Thanks much, FRED C. ADAMS W4HC THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT AND THE DAY IS AT HAND
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Re: Chrome, Explanation as to Why it has so Many Processes Running
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Hey. Interesting. This is also what Firefox started doing beginning with version 57, I believe. But it’s possible that Chrome opens more processes.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 12, 2018 7:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: [jaws-users] Chrome, Explanation as to Why it has so Many Processes Running
Hi All,
This article might give some of you an idea what all goes on in the background when Chrome is running.
I found this blog post, and thought others on this list might be
Chromium Blog News and developments from the open source browser project
Multi-process Architecture Thursday, September 11, 2008 Unlike most current web browsers, Google Chrome uses many operating system processes to keep web sites separate from each other and from the rest of your computer. In this blog post, I'll explain why using a multi-process architecture can be a big win for browsers on today's web. I'll also talk about which parts of the browser belong in each process and in which situations Google Chrome creates new processes.
For all of these reasons, Google Chrome's multi-process architecture can help it be more robust, responsive, and secure than single process browsers.
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Re: How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
Hi Jorge,
We're talking about, Alt + Tab between running /
open windows, not Shift + tab. Anyways having Jaws in the system tray has
nothing to do with the default way of, Alt + Tabbing, as opposed to the
older way. I know this all matter of personal preference, so the only
reason I posted what i did was because I've read a lot of posts' of people
from not only this list, but others, complaining that Alt + Tab didn't work very
well in Windows 10 and were advised to use the Windows key + Tab keystroke
instead.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: TheHangMan
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in
Windows 10 Back Hi Mike, If, my memory is there: I thought, if you remove jaws from the system tray, you will gain that extra shift tab back, that you got rid of it in the first place, when you chose to add jaws to the system tray.
And in your other inquery about removing the action center from the system tray, well if you can add you must be able to remove too.
putting the Jaws icon or any icon on the notification area. Windows key+I, for settings, tab one time. Right arrow to, personalization, press enter, tab one time. Down arrow to, Taskbar, press enter. Tab until you hear to, Choose what icons appear on the taskbar link, press enter. Tab across and select what icons you want on the system tray / notification bar, by selecting and checking it. Close the window. Now, go to the system tray and check all your system tray icons are there. HTH,
, Jorge, There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io
<jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Hi All,
Running Windows 10 Pro and Jaws latest. Rick a fellow moderator told me about this quite some time back and it works great! I came across this, tried it and it works as advertised. I didn't do the registry hack personally, but downloaded the program and made the change with their program. Here's the website to hear how it works and the download link & steps are below the website URL.
To download the program click on the link below, press the letter, B for button, then up arrow a few times to the download link.
Take
care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
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USPS issue.
Judy Jones
Hi, Folks,
I have been using USPS for years to ship packages. I get on today, only to find out that the edit fields are unavailable to weigh a package. I’m having a little hissy-fit, because the package I am trying to mail is expected.
My question. Has anyone else seen this problem?
To duplicate, go to www.usps.com, sign in, create a label, and fill in fields until you get to the package section. I check the box for ship my own package, and a couple of edit fields appear for Pounds and Ounces, except that Jaws reports they are unavailable.
I’ve tried filling in one edit field at a time, or simply tabbing through the process withedit fields open, but it skips the weight fields.
I am using Windows 10 with Jaws 18.
Thanks for reporting back, and if you have any ideas for me, will gladly try anything. If all else fails, I will take the package for mailing, but am so tired of this cavalaire attitude of changing sites and throwing up road blocks for people using access technology. I know this problem will not go away, in general, but had to vent hahahaha!
Thanks much.
Judy
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Re: How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back
TheHangMan
Hi Mike, If, my memory is there: I thought, if you remove jaws from the system tray, you will gain that extra shift tab back, that you got rid of it in the first place, when you chose to add jaws to the system tray.
And in your other inquery about removing the action center from the system tray, well if you can add you must be able to remove too.
putting the Jaws icon or any icon on the notification area. Windows key+I, for settings, tab one time. Right arrow to, personalization, press enter, tab one time. Down arrow to, Taskbar, press enter. Tab until you hear to, Choose what icons appear on the taskbar link, press enter. Tab across and select what icons you want on the system tray / notification bar, by selecting and checking it. Close the window. Now, go to the system tray and check all your system tray icons are there. HTH,
, Jorge, There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: [jaws-users] How to get the old Alt Tab dialog in Windows 10 Back
Hi All,
Running Windows 10 Pro and Jaws latest. Rick a fellow moderator told me about this quite some time back and it works great! I came across this, tried it and it works as advertised. I didn't do the registry hack personally, but downloaded the program and made the change with their program. Here's the website to hear how it works and the download link & steps are below the website URL.
To download the program click on the link below, press the letter, B for button, then up arrow a few times to the download link.
Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
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