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Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Victor Gouveia
 

Glen, is what you’re saying is that I have to show someone else my credit card so I can get them read to me?
 
What happens if I don’t have a reading device or if I can’t read Braille.
 
When they send me my bill, it’s in Braille, and the bank says, they send it to me because they have to send something to me via the mail.  Personally, I don’t mind because I can look up the bill on the net at my bank’s website, but even on my bill, the credit card number is not displayed in full, the expiry date is not displayed, and the security code on the back of the card sure as Hell isn’t displayed anywhere but on the card.
 
Are you saying that I could show this information to someone, regardless if I’m paying them or not?
 
So those rich people who paid people to handle their finances had people who did that, and they weren’t even blind.  I’m sorry, but a card reader is exactly what blind people need, whether you teach that or not.
 
Personally, I wouldn’t mind if people who use this types of things could speak up on it’s accessibility with Jaws and how legible is it when read, and while we already got that earlier review, is there a review of one that has the ability to read cards with chips on them?
 
Victor
 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Victor,
With all due respect, I teach independent-living skills, and there is no excuse for a Blind person to not have this information available, either in Braille or on an audio recording, or in an encrypted file on the computer.
So to have such a device for a low-tech solution is either laziness or a lack of imagination, in my opinion.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Gouveia
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.
 
The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.
 
Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.
 
Victor
 
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?
The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.
which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.
It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.
But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.
I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.
I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Shane Hecker
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane


On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy


Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Glenn / Lenny
 

Victor,
You can take it to the bank and have them read it to you if you are that paranoid.
When you use your credit card, people see it all the time.
Sometimes, employees will use their phones to take pictures of people's cards.
I'm not talking Blind folks, this happens every day when people use their cards.
There's nothing secret on that card.
Are you saying that you would not hand your card to someone at the store to process a purchase?
That person can photograph your card front and back.
So your assertion that somehow you are at risk having a reader give you the numbers is absurd.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Glen, is what you’re saying is that I have to show someone else my credit card so I can get them read to me?
 
What happens if I don’t have a reading device or if I can’t read Braille.
 
When they send me my bill, it’s in Braille, and the bank says, they send it to me because they have to send something to me via the mail.  Personally, I don’t mind because I can look up the bill on the net at my bank’s website, but even on my bill, the credit card number is not displayed in full, the expiry date is not displayed, and the security code on the back of the card sure as Hell isn’t displayed anywhere but on the card.
 
Are you saying that I could show this information to someone, regardless if I’m paying them or not?
 
So those rich people who paid people to handle their finances had people who did that, and they weren’t even blind.  I’m sorry, but a card reader is exactly what blind people need, whether you teach that or not.
 
Personally, I wouldn’t mind if people who use this types of things could speak up on it’s accessibility with Jaws and how legible is it when read, and while we already got that earlier review, is there a review of one that has the ability to read cards with chips on them?
 
Victor
 
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Victor,
With all due respect, I teach independent-living skills, and there is no excuse for a Blind person to not have this information available, either in Braille or on an audio recording, or in an encrypted file on the computer.
So to have such a device for a low-tech solution is either laziness or a lack of imagination, in my opinion.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Gouveia
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.
 
The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.
 
Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.
 
Victor
 
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?
The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.
which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.
It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.
But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.
I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.
I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Shane Hecker
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane


On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy


Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Victor Gouveia
 

Sandy, you should be careful here.  Shane said his doesn’t read the cards with the chips, so you may want to get one that’s newer and can read those, because they’re becoming the norm nowadays.
 
Victor
 

From: sandy
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
what’s the name of the card reader you use shane?
 
From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

 

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

 

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

 

Thanks very much.

 

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 


ADMIN: Computer with Credit Card Reader

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

Okay, folks,until you can bring the discussion of this technology
back to it's use with Jaws, take it off-list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

Re: downloading Skype

inam din
 

Dear, use this link to download the latest version of Skype for windows desktop!

https://endpoint920510.azureedge.net/s4l/s4l/download/win/Skype-8.31.0.92.exe

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

It is nice to be important but it is more important to be nice!

You can contact me via gmail:

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Outlook:

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Talk with me on Skype:

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Follow me on my twitter ID:

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Call me on my cell no.:

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of Vicki W <vwherry4@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 12:55:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] downloading Skype
 
Yes, I thought of that, but it doesn't say which vversion I will be getting and I don't want it installed, just want to download for now.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] downloading Skype

Hi,

 

Have you tried using ninite to grab it.  I did this on my virtual machine and it works fine.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 10:20 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] downloading Skype

 

Does anyone have the link to download Skype 8? For some reason, I'm not finding it.

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

Re: How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

TheHangMan
 

Allan,

Press alt V, and arrow down to the arrangement submenu press the right arrow and down arrow down to the split button and press enter.

If, I remember,you will land on the date menu, so right arrow across the menu and the subject is there.

Or, arrow 2 more times down past the arrangement submenu to the reverse sort order and the  add collums button.

 

Woe, that’s as far as I go!

HTH,

if not tomorrow is another day.

 

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Sharon,

 

Thanks, somehow I have totally messed up my ribbons in Outlook so don’t see the choices you mention. Any idea how to get the ribbons back to their defaults with JAWS?

 

Al

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Hi, as well as turning off the reading pain as someone has already mentioned you need to go into view menu, arrangement menu, then add columns. In there you can choose what is shown in the list as you arrow up and down it.

 

Hope this helps.

From Shaz.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 6:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Hi all, I have a client that when she opens Outlook, the subject of the message doesn’t show when arrowing down the list. Is there a way to reset Outlook so it displays the message?

We get instead, click here to download pictures, Outlook blocked some of the downloads of this messages.

This is coming up all the time.

How can we fix this error message within Outlook.

Thanks.

James

 

Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

So long as the card has a magnetic strip you should be able to scan it. As far as I know, most if not all still do have that strip.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 8:56 AM, Justin Williams wrote:

Oh, it doen’s work with the chips.  Can you still scan a creditcard that has a chip?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane

 

On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

 

Thanks. John

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

Shane, this is perfect information.

 

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

 

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

 

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

 

Thanks very much.

 

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

 


Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

Okay, here's an example.

Lets say you apply for a credit card and get approved. I'm going to use the name provided in the email you sent. You get a letter that starts out something like this:

Glen

1234 Bubba Lane, xxx ny, 38823

for account ending in 1234

Welcome to your new master card. To activate, call 800-555-1212 and follow the prompts. yada yada yada, thank you for your business.


Okay, so we know the account ends in 1234, but how bout the other 12 numbers? Do you really want your friend, parents, or worse yet a stranger looking at your credit card? Personally, I don't. If you can scan it and get the information you need using a credit card reader, then why not do it that way? The scanner I have does not use any special software. It plugs into the USB port and acts like a keyboard. So  when you open notepad and scan the card, that scanner reads the strip and inputs that into the text area. And yes, that includes the credit card number, name on the card, and the expiration date. It does *not* include the cid. However, if you have an iPhone or something with a really good camera, a steady hand, and the app called Seeing AI, you might be able to get the CID to be recognized with OCR. Yes, I have successfully done this with a credit card.

Yes, there no doubt is software designed to make it work with a P O S system, but I don't have that, nor do I need it, at leastnot yet anyway.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 8:39 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?
The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.
which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.
It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.
But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.
I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.
I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy



Re: JAWS and Outlook 2016 contacts folder

Van Lant, Robin
 

Adrian,

I am not brave enough to try what you are proposing, and I would not think it would work, as Outlook uses essentially a table for all the information.  In your situation, I would use the notepad file as a reference and then go into each contact to edit it.  If it’s helpful, I have my Outlook Contacts set to Business Card view.  You can arrow through the contacts and use first letter navigation to jump to the first contact starting with that letter.  In Business Card view. Hit enter on the card you want to edit, and tab through the fields.   I did not have much luck with list view in the past using Window Eyes, but maybe others have suggestions on their preference methods.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS and Outlook 2016 contacts folder

 

I find the contacts list in Outlook hard to read and edit with JAWS. I just now experimented by making a copy of the entire Outlook contacts folder and pasting it into Notepad. Now I can read it easily, and I see it needs some editing.

 

Here’s my question: Can I copy a Notepad file with my revised contacts list into Outlook’s contact folder? Will it completely replace Outlook’s existing folder, and if so, will Outlook work with it?

 

Thanks.



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Re: Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

Van Lant, Robin
 

I am using JAWS 2018 and Office 2016.  HOLDING Control, arrowing up and down and hitting space on the messages you want to select still works for me.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of michele thredgold
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 7:09 PM
To: JAWS List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

 

Hi all.  Have things changed in either of these programs when it comes to selecting emails?  I was trying to select various emails from y Sent box in order to delete them, but every time I pressed control up arrow and then space (I was going from the bottom up), JAWS would say “not selected”. Do I have the wrong command? Shouold I have been pressing shift instead? 

 

Thanks.

 

Michele   



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Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

Magtek. It's been quite a while since I purchased it so I don't know  how much it costs. The newer models go for around $45 or so.  There are  cheaper units out there, but I don't know if they work the same way. If I had to buy another one,  I'd  make sure it is compatible with HID drivers and that it emulates a keyboard. This should be mentioned in the marketing literature for the unit or in the specifications.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 1:32 PM, sandy wrote:
what’s the name of the card reader you use shane?
 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

 

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

 

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

 

Thanks very much.

 

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 



Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

Actually, you might be surprised what OCR can do. Do you have a newer iPhone or a phone with a high definition camera? If so, will your phone allow you to install an app called Seeing AI? If so, you might want to give it a shot and see what happens. If you've got a steady hand and patience, you might be surprised at what you can get it to recognize. It won't get the card number, but you might be able to get everything else including the CID.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 1:16 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

I can see that.  Whenever we get a new card I get my information for it from using the optacon.  Too bad OCR isn’t up to the job.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.

 

The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.

 

Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.

 

Victor

 

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?

The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.

which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.

It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.

But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.

I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.

I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Shane Hecker

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane

 

On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy

 


JAWS And Scrivener

michele thredgold
 

Hi everyone. Can anyone tell me whether Scrivener, a program for writers, is JAWS-friendly. I have heard raving reviews about this program from the Adelaide Writers' Center. Would appreciate any positive or negative feedback.


Cheers!


Michele

Re: Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

TheHangMan
 

Hi,

Shift plus up or down arrow is used to select the messages and press the delete key, or press shift delete to delete them to oblivient!

Or, press control shift V to move the selected messages to a folder  in the treeview list.

 

HTH,

 

Jorge,

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

 

I am using JAWS 2018 and Office 2016.  HOLDING Control, arrowing up and down and hitting space on the messages you want to select still works for me.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of michele thredgold
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 7:09 PM
To: JAWS List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

 

Hi all.  Have things changed in either of these programs when it comes to selecting emails?  I was trying to select various emails from y Sent box in order to delete them, but every time I pressed control up arrow and then space (I was going from the bottom up), JAWS would say “not selected”. Do I have the wrong command? Shouold I have been pressing shift instead? 

 

Thanks.

 

Michele   



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Re: JAWS and Outlook 2016 contacts folder

TheHangMan
 

 

Hi,

Open the address book press control shift B, or try the alt period command, and press alt enter and press the tab key and you can start re-editing the contact, keep on tabbing to the email edit . . .

and make your changes and press alt S to save.

 

Or, hightlight a contact and press the content menu and arrow to delete-enter, must confirm the deletion press spacebar.

Or select properties-enter from the content menu. and make your changes and save

 

HTH,

 

 

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS and Outlook 2016 contacts folder

 

Adrian,

I am not brave enough to try what you are proposing, and I would not think it would work, as Outlook uses essentially a table for all the information.  In your situation, I would use the notepad file as a reference and then go into each contact to edit it.  If it’s helpful, I have my Outlook Contacts set to Business Card view.  You can arrow through the contacts and use first letter navigation to jump to the first contact starting with that letter.  In Business Card view. Hit enter on the card you want to edit, and tab through the fields.   I did not have much luck with list view in the past using Window Eyes, but maybe others have suggestions on their preference methods.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS and Outlook 2016 contacts folder

 

I find the contacts list in Outlook hard to read and edit with JAWS. I just now experimented by making a copy of the entire Outlook contacts folder and pasting it into Notepad. Now I can read it easily, and I see it needs some editing.

 

Here’s my question: Can I copy a Notepad file with my revised contacts list into Outlook’s contact folder? Will it completely replace Outlook’s existing folder, and if so, will Outlook work with it?

 

Thanks.



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Re: Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

michele thredgold
 

Is this the case with more than one message – shift up and down arrow, I mean?

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

 

Hi,

Shift plus up or down arrow is used to select the messages and press the delete key, or press shift delete to delete them to oblivient!

Or, press control shift V to move the selected messages to a folder  in the treeview list.

 

HTH,

 

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

 

I am using JAWS 2018 and Office 2016.  HOLDING Control, arrowing up and down and hitting space on the messages you want to select still works for me.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of michele thredgold
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 7:09 PM
To: JAWS List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

 

Hi all.  Have things changed in either of these programs when it comes to selecting emails?  I was trying to select various emails from y Sent box in order to delete them, but every time I pressed control up arrow and then space (I was going from the bottom up), JAWS would say “not selected”. Do I have the wrong command? Shouold I have been pressing shift instead? 

 

Thanks.

 

Michele   



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Re: Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

michele thredgold
 

Thanks, Glen and everyone.  It seems that there is no keyboard shortcut for this.  Bummer!

ichele

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2018 10:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Hi,

You need to do this with the message still open.

So under File, you go to save, or the old control + S should work when you have the message open.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Hi all.  Can anybody give me simple instructions on how to do this?  I can save attachments but don’t know the steps vfor saving messages outside the acturl program itself – say, in Documents.

 

Thanks, in advance, for any assistance.

 

Michele             

Re: Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

michele thredgold
 

Sorry, glen.  What I meant was, there’s no keyboard shortcut for “save as”.  Control s wasn’t applicable, since I needed to determine the appropriate folder location.  I found all your suggestions helpful, though.

 

Cheers!

 

Michele

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2018 10:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Hi,

You need to do this with the message still open.

So under File, you go to save, or the old control + S should work when you have the message open.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Hi all.  Can anybody give me simple instructions on how to do this?  I can save attachments but don’t know the steps vfor saving messages outside the acturl program itself – say, in Documents.

 

Thanks, in advance, for any assistance.

 

Michele             

Re: Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

michele thredgold
 

 

Hi Alan.  Does your copying method include folders outside of email?  In the past, I have had trouble with my email clients, due to keeping too much email.  I therefore now save the ones I want to keep in Documents. 

 

BTW, I noticed that copying and pasting messages didn’t seem to work, if copying them into the Documents folder.  Will keep trying.

 

Cheers!

 

Michele  

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2018 9:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Hello,

 

I have been following this thread, and here is what I’ve always done.

Once I’ve read a message, I simply hit escape on my keyboard and it takes me back to the message list. If I no longer want the message I just read I hit delete. If I want  to save it for some reason, I hit my applications key, arrow up to move option, arrow right once, and here is a list of the last few folders I’ve moved a  message to. They are listed in descending order from most recent  to more distance ones. At the bottom of the list is an “other” choice and all the way to the bottom a copy to folder choice. Selecting either of these two takes me to a tree of email accounts and folders. I can move or copy the message anywhere I choose in that tree or if it  does not apply to any choice I can create a new location.

Anyway just thought I’d pass this along.

 

Al

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Thamks much.

 

This is very helpful.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

It should save the http part as a text URL.

You can then copy and paste them.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 9:07 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

George:

 

But, the problem with the txt format is that it doesn’t save links.

 

In other words, I’m trying to save e-mails with embedded links so that I can access them later if needed.

 

So far, I’ve found that only the .msg format works for this purpose.

 

Am I missing something?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Tom,  if, you had follow the prompts while tabbing, it states, what format you want to save the doc, use your up/down arrow to select, I think it’s arrow down twice to the .TXT format.

Sorry, I didn’t write that in my reply like Adrien…

 

Take care,

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

George:

 

When using this method, what format is the e-mail saved in?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Tom,

Another way is to press F12, tab once and rename your doc and tab to the save as or save all attachments, if there’s more then one attachment you want to save.

The file will save in the this PC/my computer.

the file will store in the document  folder in this PC menu.

OR, whereever, you save your work.

Now, you can re-edit the doc and move it.

Also, you can forward the file back to yourself and re-edit, whatever you desire and send it out. When you receive the file back you can save it.

 

HTH,

 

Jorge,

There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 8:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Adrian:

 

These are great alternative instructions, and I will definitely try them out!

 

Thanks for sending them along!

 

One question I have is this:  Lately, I have been saving more and more messages in .msg format.  I find that this is useful if you have links in a message that need to be accessed.  However, when you do this, you loose the ability to edit the message in any way if you want to add a clarifying note of some kind.

 

If anyone has additional thoughts on this matter, please post.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Hi, Tom.

 

I have an alternative method that uses most of your steps but that has a big advantage.

 

First, instead of keeping the message open, close it with escape and place focus against it in the message list.

Press alt-f for file, then a for “save as.”

In the initial field, type not only the name you want for the document, but also the path beginning with c:\ (assuming you’re saving it to the hard drive).

Now, as in your instructions, tab once to the file format list and arrow up or down to the format you want. I typically select .TXT.

Tab to save and press spacebar.

 

What is the advantage of this procedure? If you want to create a single text file for all the messages, say, in a folder, you can do so by first pressing control-a for “all.” Then the “alt-f, a” (for “save as”) will include all the messages you want saved into that single file.

 

To elaborate a little, suppose you don’t want to include all the messages in a file folder in that single text file, but only some. I create a new Outlook folder, then move the messages I want into that folder. Now I move focus to the new folder, press control-a, and continue from there.

 

Copying a series of messages into a single text file can be very useful. True, you’re stuck with all the headers, which is when your MS Word editing skills come into play.

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Michelle:

 

When an e-mail message you want to save is open, go to the file menu in Outlook, and arrow down to the Save As option.

 

When there, hit enter, and you will be put into the file name field.

 

Tab once, and you should find a file types option, where you can specify what format to save the file in.

 

I usually do either a .msg format, or a simple .txt format.

 

Then, go to your folder and file  list tree view, and specify where you would like the file to go.

 

I’m sure there are other ways to do this, but this is the process that works best for me.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of michele thredgold
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:45 PM
To: JAWS List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Saving Email Messages in Outlook 2016

 

Hi all.  Can anybody give me simple instructions on how to do this?  I can save attachments but don’t know the steps vfor saving messages outside the acturl program itself – say, in Documents.

 

Thanks, in advance, for any assistance.

 

Michele             

Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Judy Jones
 

With the optacon I get the realtime info because I am actually reading it through a display that raises the images or writing or printing.  Whatever is under the camera.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

Actually, you might be surprised what OCR can do. Do you have a newer iPhone or a phone with a high definition camera? If so, will your phone allow you to install an app called Seeing AI? If so, you might want to give it a shot and see what happens. If you've got a steady hand and patience, you might be surprised at what you can get it to recognize. It won't get the card number, but you might be able to get everything else including the CID.

 

Shane

 

On 9/29/2018 1:16 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

I can see that.  Whenever we get a new card I get my information for it from using the optacon.  Too bad OCR isn’t up to the job.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.

 

The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.

 

Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.

 

Victor

 

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?

The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.

which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.

It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.

But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.

I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.

I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Shane Hecker

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane

 

On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy