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Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

Actually, you might be surprised what OCR can do. Do you have a newer iPhone or a phone with a high definition camera? If so, will your phone allow you to install an app called Seeing AI? If so, you might want to give it a shot and see what happens. If you've got a steady hand and patience, you might be surprised at what you can get it to recognize. It won't get the card number, but you might be able to get everything else including the CID.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 1:16 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

I can see that.  Whenever we get a new card I get my information for it from using the optacon.  Too bad OCR isn’t up to the job.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.

 

The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.

 

Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.

 

Victor

 

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?

The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.

which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.

It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.

But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.

I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.

I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Shane Hecker

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane

 

On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy

 


Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

Magtek. It's been quite a while since I purchased it so I don't know  how much it costs. The newer models go for around $45 or so.  There are  cheaper units out there, but I don't know if they work the same way. If I had to buy another one,  I'd  make sure it is compatible with HID drivers and that it emulates a keyboard. This should be mentioned in the marketing literature for the unit or in the specifications.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 1:32 PM, sandy wrote:
what’s the name of the card reader you use shane?
 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

 

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

 

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

 

Thanks very much.

 

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 



Re: Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

Van Lant, Robin
 

I am using JAWS 2018 and Office 2016.  HOLDING Control, arrowing up and down and hitting space on the messages you want to select still works for me.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of michele thredgold
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 7:09 PM
To: JAWS List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Selecting Emails - JAWS 1018, Outlook 2016

 

Hi all.  Have things changed in either of these programs when it comes to selecting emails?  I was trying to select various emails from y Sent box in order to delete them, but every time I pressed control up arrow and then space (I was going from the bottom up), JAWS would say “not selected”. Do I have the wrong command? Shouold I have been pressing shift instead? 

 

Thanks.

 

Michele   



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Re: JAWS and Outlook 2016 contacts folder

Van Lant, Robin
 

Adrian,

I am not brave enough to try what you are proposing, and I would not think it would work, as Outlook uses essentially a table for all the information.  In your situation, I would use the notepad file as a reference and then go into each contact to edit it.  If it’s helpful, I have my Outlook Contacts set to Business Card view.  You can arrow through the contacts and use first letter navigation to jump to the first contact starting with that letter.  In Business Card view. Hit enter on the card you want to edit, and tab through the fields.   I did not have much luck with list view in the past using Window Eyes, but maybe others have suggestions on their preference methods.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS and Outlook 2016 contacts folder

 

I find the contacts list in Outlook hard to read and edit with JAWS. I just now experimented by making a copy of the entire Outlook contacts folder and pasting it into Notepad. Now I can read it easily, and I see it needs some editing.

 

Here’s my question: Can I copy a Notepad file with my revised contacts list into Outlook’s contact folder? Will it completely replace Outlook’s existing folder, and if so, will Outlook work with it?

 

Thanks.



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Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

Okay, here's an example.

Lets say you apply for a credit card and get approved. I'm going to use the name provided in the email you sent. You get a letter that starts out something like this:

Glen

1234 Bubba Lane, xxx ny, 38823

for account ending in 1234

Welcome to your new master card. To activate, call 800-555-1212 and follow the prompts. yada yada yada, thank you for your business.


Okay, so we know the account ends in 1234, but how bout the other 12 numbers? Do you really want your friend, parents, or worse yet a stranger looking at your credit card? Personally, I don't. If you can scan it and get the information you need using a credit card reader, then why not do it that way? The scanner I have does not use any special software. It plugs into the USB port and acts like a keyboard. So  when you open notepad and scan the card, that scanner reads the strip and inputs that into the text area. And yes, that includes the credit card number, name on the card, and the expiration date. It does *not* include the cid. However, if you have an iPhone or something with a really good camera, a steady hand, and the app called Seeing AI, you might be able to get the CID to be recognized with OCR. Yes, I have successfully done this with a credit card.

Yes, there no doubt is software designed to make it work with a P O S system, but I don't have that, nor do I need it, at leastnot yet anyway.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 8:39 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?
The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.
which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.
It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.
But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.
I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.
I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy



Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Shane Hecker <shanehecker@...>
 

So long as the card has a magnetic strip you should be able to scan it. As far as I know, most if not all still do have that strip.


Shane


On 9/29/2018 8:56 AM, Justin Williams wrote:

Oh, it doen’s work with the chips.  Can you still scan a creditcard that has a chip?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane

 

On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

 

Thanks. John

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

Shane, this is perfect information.

 

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Judy

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

 

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

 

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

 

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

 

Thanks very much.

 

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

 


Re: How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

TheHangMan
 

Allan,

Press alt V, and arrow down to the arrangement submenu press the right arrow and down arrow down to the split button and press enter.

If, I remember,you will land on the date menu, so right arrow across the menu and the subject is there.

Or, arrow 2 more times down past the arrangement submenu to the reverse sort order and the  add collums button.

 

Woe, that’s as far as I go!

HTH,

if not tomorrow is another day.

 

Jorge,

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Sharon,

 

Thanks, somehow I have totally messed up my ribbons in Outlook so don’t see the choices you mention. Any idea how to get the ribbons back to their defaults with JAWS?

 

Al

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Hi, as well as turning off the reading pain as someone has already mentioned you need to go into view menu, arrangement menu, then add columns. In there you can choose what is shown in the list as you arrow up and down it.

 

Hope this helps.

From Shaz.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 6:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Hi all, I have a client that when she opens Outlook, the subject of the message doesn’t show when arrowing down the list. Is there a way to reset Outlook so it displays the message?

We get instead, click here to download pictures, Outlook blocked some of the downloads of this messages.

This is coming up all the time.

How can we fix this error message within Outlook.

Thanks.

James

 

Re: downloading Skype

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of Vicki W <vwherry4@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 12:55:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] downloading Skype
 
Yes, I thought of that, but it doesn't say which vversion I will be getting and I don't want it installed, just want to download for now.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] downloading Skype

Hi,

 

Have you tried using ninite to grab it.  I did this on my virtual machine and it works fine.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 10:20 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] downloading Skype

 

Does anyone have the link to download Skype 8? For some reason, I'm not finding it.

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

ADMIN: Computer with Credit Card Reader

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

Okay, folks,until you can bring the discussion of this technology
back to it's use with Jaws, take it off-list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Victor Gouveia
 

Sandy, you should be careful here.  Shane said his doesn’t read the cards with the chips, so you may want to get one that’s newer and can read those, because they’re becoming the norm nowadays.
 
Victor
 

From: sandy
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
what’s the name of the card reader you use shane?
 
From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

 

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

 

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

 

Thanks very much.

 

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 


Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Glenn / Lenny
 

Victor,
You can take it to the bank and have them read it to you if you are that paranoid.
When you use your credit card, people see it all the time.
Sometimes, employees will use their phones to take pictures of people's cards.
I'm not talking Blind folks, this happens every day when people use their cards.
There's nothing secret on that card.
Are you saying that you would not hand your card to someone at the store to process a purchase?
That person can photograph your card front and back.
So your assertion that somehow you are at risk having a reader give you the numbers is absurd.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Glen, is what you’re saying is that I have to show someone else my credit card so I can get them read to me?
 
What happens if I don’t have a reading device or if I can’t read Braille.
 
When they send me my bill, it’s in Braille, and the bank says, they send it to me because they have to send something to me via the mail.  Personally, I don’t mind because I can look up the bill on the net at my bank’s website, but even on my bill, the credit card number is not displayed in full, the expiry date is not displayed, and the security code on the back of the card sure as Hell isn’t displayed anywhere but on the card.
 
Are you saying that I could show this information to someone, regardless if I’m paying them or not?
 
So those rich people who paid people to handle their finances had people who did that, and they weren’t even blind.  I’m sorry, but a card reader is exactly what blind people need, whether you teach that or not.
 
Personally, I wouldn’t mind if people who use this types of things could speak up on it’s accessibility with Jaws and how legible is it when read, and while we already got that earlier review, is there a review of one that has the ability to read cards with chips on them?
 
Victor
 
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Victor,
With all due respect, I teach independent-living skills, and there is no excuse for a Blind person to not have this information available, either in Braille or on an audio recording, or in an encrypted file on the computer.
So to have such a device for a low-tech solution is either laziness or a lack of imagination, in my opinion.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Gouveia
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.
 
The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.
 
Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.
 
Victor
 
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?
The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.
which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.
It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.
But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.
I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.
I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Shane Hecker
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane


On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy


Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Victor Gouveia
 

Glen, is what you’re saying is that I have to show someone else my credit card so I can get them read to me?
 
What happens if I don’t have a reading device or if I can’t read Braille.
 
When they send me my bill, it’s in Braille, and the bank says, they send it to me because they have to send something to me via the mail.  Personally, I don’t mind because I can look up the bill on the net at my bank’s website, but even on my bill, the credit card number is not displayed in full, the expiry date is not displayed, and the security code on the back of the card sure as Hell isn’t displayed anywhere but on the card.
 
Are you saying that I could show this information to someone, regardless if I’m paying them or not?
 
So those rich people who paid people to handle their finances had people who did that, and they weren’t even blind.  I’m sorry, but a card reader is exactly what blind people need, whether you teach that or not.
 
Personally, I wouldn’t mind if people who use this types of things could speak up on it’s accessibility with Jaws and how legible is it when read, and while we already got that earlier review, is there a review of one that has the ability to read cards with chips on them?
 
Victor
 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Victor,
With all due respect, I teach independent-living skills, and there is no excuse for a Blind person to not have this information available, either in Braille or on an audio recording, or in an encrypted file on the computer.
So to have such a device for a low-tech solution is either laziness or a lack of imagination, in my opinion.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Gouveia
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.
 
The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.
 
Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.
 
Victor
 
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?
The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.
which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.
It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.
But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.
I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.
I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Shane Hecker
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane


On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy


Re: Oops, My Bad...Was JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Victor Gouveia
 

Sorry folks, I pasted the wrong message, here’s the right one.  Sheepish Grin.
 
***Original Message***
 
You may have noticed that Microsoft began rolling out a new version of Microsoft Office early this week. That means that there are now three versions of
Microsoft Office out in the wild—Office 2016, Office 365, and the brand-new Office 2019.
 
If you’re curious about this new version of Microsoft Office, we’ve put together this guide to answer the biggest questions about Office 2019, such as
how it differs from Office 2016 and Office 365, what features are (and aren’t) included, and when you can actually use it.
 
What is Office 2019?
 
Microsoft Office 2019 is a standalone, local (not cloud-based, like Office 365) version of the Microsoft Office software suite. It is a “perpetual” release,
which is just a fancy way of saying you buy the software once and own it forever, rather than having to pay an annual subscription fee to access it. That
said, you only get a license to use it on a single PC, whereas a subscription to Office 365 lets you use it on a PC, a tablet, and a smartphone.
 
This new release updates and replaces the 2016 versions of Word, Excel, etc. and includes many of the new features that have been rolled out to Office
365 users over the past three years. We’ll get to those in a bit.
 
When is Office 2019 available, and how much will it cost?
 
Office 2019 is on sale now, but only for commercial-level customers. Availability will be rolling out regular ol’ customers like you and me in the coming
weeks. That also means we don’t yet know what the price point is for individual users, but Microsoft will likely have that info soon. Expect to potentially
pay a bit more than what you’d shell out for Office 2016 (currently $150 for the “
Home and Student
” version), as Microsoft already boosted the price of the commercial version
ten percent
to account for its “
significant value added to the product over time
.”
 
What are the system requirements for Office 2019?
 
Here’s a big change. On PCs, you’ll need Windows 10 for Office 2019; Microsoft will not support any versions of Windows 7 or 8. As always, Microsoft will
make 32 and 64-bit versions of Office 2019 available.
 
For Mac, Microsoft will support the three most recent versions of macOS, currently macOS Sierra (10.12), High Sierra (10.13), and Mojave (10.14). As Microsoft
notes:
 
block quote
“When a new version of macOS is released, Office 2019 for Mac’s Operating System requirement becomes the then-current three most recent versions at that
time: the new version of macOS and the previous two versions. For example, at the time macOS 10.14 is generally available from Apple, Office for Mac will
support macOS 10.12, 10.13, and 10.14.”
block quote end
 
What new features can you expect?
 
Here’s a quick rundown of the important updates Office 2016 users will see if they upgrade to Office 2019.
 
Microsoft Word
 
Image:
Microsoft
 
With Office 2019, Microsoft
says it’s focused on helping you, well… focus
better when writing in Word. To do so, Word 2019 will be getting the aptly named Focus mode, which darkens the screen and reduces the displayed UI elements.
 
Users will also have new “Learning Tools,” including new text-to-speech, text spacing, and translator features. Mac users will also now have customizable
ribbons (aka drop-down menus) in their version of the Word interface.
 
Outlook
 
Like Word, Outlook is also getting a new focus mode, called the “Focused Inbox,” to help streamline workflow and email drafting. Users can now use “@”
commands for tagging people in emails, and contact cards have been overhauled.
 
Also, PC users will now have travel and delivery cards, while Mac users get new email templates; a Send Later function for scheduling delivery times; and
read receipts. Both platforms also get Office 365 Group integration.
 
PowerPoint
 
Image:
Microsoft
 
The changes for PowerPoint are all about enhanced media and visual element support in presentations. The notable additions here are support for 3D model
display/manipulation and SVG files on slides; new morph transitions; the ability to export your presentation in 4K UHD video format, and you can now write
by hand and move elements with your pencil while editing.
 
OneNote
 
OneNote is arguably
the biggest change included in Office 2019.
This is technically a new OneNote release entirely, one that can replace OneNote 2016 (though OneNote 2016 remains available and will be supported by Microsoft
through 2025). This new version, dubbed OneNote for Windows 10, includes Ink-to-Text support, meaning your handwritten words will be turned into typed
text, plus better syncing between connected devices.
 
Excel
 
Image:
Microsoft
 
Finally, Excel gets a host of new functions—like new formulas and chart options, and support for 2D maps and timelines—to better present and organize your
data. PC users will also receive updates to Power Pivot, Power Query, and the ability to export to Power BI.
 
Better pencil support and other tweaks
 
Image:
Microsoft
 
In addition to these program-specific updates, there are also changes that apply to all Office 2019 software. The most important of these is Microsoft’s
beefed-up support for digital pencils, like expanded “roaming pencil case” support, which lets users write by hand and move parts of documents with their
pencil, as well as new support for pressure sensitivity and tilt recognition. Office 2019 also comes with some behind-the-scenes changes such as monthly
security updates and a reduction to network bandwidth use.
 
Will Office 2019 replace Office 365?
 
No. In a
post announcing the software release,
Microsoft makes sure to point out that Office 2019 is a standalone package of its software geared primarily towards private users and businesses who do
not have the necessary internet access required to use the cloud-based Office 365. Because of this, many of the features present in the Office 365 versions
of these apps are not included in their Office 2019 counterparts, especially cloud-based and collaborative features.
 
Furthermore, Microsoft makes it clear that while Office 2019 will be receiving regular security fixes, it will not be getting expanded feature updates,
while Office 365 users can still look forward to new and updated features through regular monthly updates just as they always have.
 
The bottom line here is that Office 2019 is not going to replace Office 365, and it really isn’t meant to. That said, regardless of the particular use
case, Office 2019 still fills a crucial role and services a section of Microsoft’s customer base that may have felt a bit neglected since Office 365 took
the spotlight.
 
Courtesy of LifeHacker at the following link:
 
 
Victor
 

From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365
 
Hi Mike,
 
You might want to take a look at this.  It’s an article from LifeHacker that summarizes the differences between Office 2016, Office 365 and Office 2019.  A URL is included below if you want to see the original article.
 
***Original Message***
 
Brian, you’re more than welcome.
 
If I come across any others, I’ll post those too.
 
Victor
 
From: Brian Moore
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:03 PM
To: GTTsupport@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GTTsupport] Microsoft Office 2019: All the Changes, How to Buy it, and How it Compares to Office 365 Courtesy of LifeHacker
 
this is really helpful thanks.
 
Brian.
 
 
On 9/28/2018 9:59 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:
 
  You may have noticed that Microsoft began rolling out a new version of Microsoft Office early this week. That means that there are now three versions of
  Microsoft Office out in the wild—Office 2016, Office 365, and the brand-new Office 2019.
 
  If you’re curious about this new version of Microsoft Office, we’ve put together this guide to answer the biggest questions about Office 2019, such as
  how it differs from Office 2016 and Office 365, what features are (and aren’t) included, and when you can actually use it.
 
  What is Office 2019?
 
  Microsoft Office 2019 is a standalone, local (not cloud-based, like Office 365) version of the Microsoft Office software suite. It is a “perpetual” release,
  which is just a fancy way of saying you buy the software once and own it forever, rather than having to pay an annual subscription fee to access it. That
  said, you only get a license to use it on a single PC, whereas a subscription to Office 365 lets you use it on a PC, a tablet, and a smartphone.
 
  This new release updates and replaces the 2016 versions of Word, Excel, etc. and includes many of the new features that have been rolled out to Office
  365 users over the past three years. We’ll get to those in a bit.
 
  When is Office 2019 available, and how much will it cost?
 
  Office 2019 is on sale now, but only for commercial-level customers. Availability will be rolling out regular ol’ customers like you and me in the coming
  weeks. That also means we don’t yet know what the price point is for individual users, but Microsoft will likely have that info soon. Expect to potentially
  pay a bit more than what you’d shell out for Office 2016 (currently $150 for the “
  Home and Student
  ” version), as Microsoft already boosted the price of the commercial version
  ten percent
  to account for its “
  significant value added to the product over time
  .”
 
  What are the system requirements for Office 2019?
 
  Here’s a big change. On PCs, you’ll need Windows 10 for Office 2019; Microsoft will not support any versions of Windows 7 or 8. As always, Microsoft will
  make 32 and 64-bit versions of Office 2019 available.
 
  For Mac, Microsoft will support the three most recent versions of macOS, currently macOS Sierra (10.12), High Sierra (10.13), and Mojave (10.14). As Microsoft
  notes:
 
  block quote
  “When a new version of macOS is released, Office 2019 for Mac’s Operating System requirement becomes the then-current three most recent versions at that
  time: the new version of macOS and the previous two versions. For example, at the time macOS 10.14 is generally available from Apple, Office for Mac will
  support macOS 10.12, 10.13, and 10.14.”
  block quote end
 
  What new features can you expect?
 
  Here’s a quick rundown of the important updates Office 2016 users will see if they upgrade to Office 2019.
 
  Microsoft Word
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  With Office 2019, Microsoft
  says it’s focused on helping you, well… focus
  better when writing in Word. To do so, Word 2019 will be getting the aptly named Focus mode, which darkens the screen and reduces the displayed UI elements.
 
  Users will also have new “Learning Tools,” including new text-to-speech, text spacing, and translator features. Mac users will also now have customizable
  ribbons (aka drop-down menus) in their version of the Word interface.
 
  Outlook
 
  Like Word, Outlook is also getting a new focus mode, called the “Focused Inbox,” to help streamline workflow and email drafting. Users can now use “@”
  commands for tagging people in emails, and contact cards have been overhauled.
 
  Also, PC users will now have travel and delivery cards, while Mac users get new email templates; a Send Later function for scheduling delivery times; and
  read receipts. Both platforms also get Office 365 Group integration.
 
  PowerPoint
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  The changes for PowerPoint are all about enhanced media and visual element support in presentations. The notable additions here are support for 3D model
  display/manipulation and SVG files on slides; new morph transitions; the ability to export your presentation in 4K UHD video format, and you can now write
  by hand and move elements with your pencil while editing.
 
  OneNote
 
  OneNote is arguably
  the biggest change included in Office 2019.
  This is technically a new OneNote release entirely, one that can replace OneNote 2016 (though OneNote 2016 remains available and will be supported by Microsoft
  through 2025). This new version, dubbed OneNote for Windows 10, includes Ink-to-Text support, meaning your handwritten words will be turned into typed
  text, plus better syncing between connected devices.
 
  Excel
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  Finally, Excel gets a host of new functions—like new formulas and chart options, and support for 2D maps and timelines—to better present and organize your
  data. PC users will also receive updates to Power Pivot, Power Query, and the ability to export to Power BI.
 
  Better pencil support and other tweaks
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  In addition to these program-specific updates, there are also changes that apply to all Office 2019 software. The most important of these is Microsoft’s
  beefed-up support for digital pencils, like expanded “roaming pencil case” support, which lets users write by hand and move parts of documents with their
  pencil, as well as new support for pressure sensitivity and tilt recognition. Office 2019 also comes with some behind-the-scenes changes such as monthly
  security updates and a reduction to network bandwidth use.
 
  Will Office 2019 replace Office 365?
 
  No. In a
  post announcing the software release,
  Microsoft makes sure to point out that Office 2019 is a standalone package of its software geared primarily towards private users and businesses who do
  not have the necessary internet access required to use the cloud-based Office 365. Because of this, many of the features present in the Office 365 versions
  of these apps are not included in their Office 2019 counterparts, especially cloud-based and collaborative features.
 
  Furthermore, Microsoft makes it clear that while Office 2019 will be receiving regular security fixes, it will not be getting expanded feature updates,
  while Office 365 users can still look forward to new and updated features through regular monthly updates just as they always have.
 
  The bottom line here is that Office 2019 is not going to replace Office 365, and it really isn’t meant to. That said, regardless of the particular use
  case, Office 2019 still fills a crucial role and services a section of Microsoft’s customer base that may have felt a bit neglected since Office 365 took
  the spotlight.
 
  Courtesy of LifeHacker at the following link:
 
 
  Victor
 

Re: How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

Alan Robbins
 

Sharon,

 

Thanks, somehow I have totally messed up my ribbons in Outlook so don’t see the choices you mention. Any idea how to get the ribbons back to their defaults with JAWS?

 

Al

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Hi, as well as turning off the reading pain as someone has already mentioned you need to go into view menu, arrangement menu, then add columns. In there you can choose what is shown in the list as you arrow up and down it.

 

Hope this helps.

From Shaz.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 6:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to have Jaws read the title of a message within MS Outlook2016

 

Hi all, I have a client that when she opens Outlook, the subject of the message doesn’t show when arrowing down the list. Is there a way to reset Outlook so it displays the message?

We get instead, click here to download pictures, Outlook blocked some of the downloads of this messages.

This is coming up all the time.

How can we fix this error message within Outlook.

Thanks.

James

 

Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Victor Gouveia
 

Hi Mike,
 
You might want to take a look at this.  It’s an article from LifeHacker that summarizes the differences between Office 2016, Office 365 and Office 2019.  A URL is included below if you want to see the original article.
 
***Original Message***
 
Brian, you’re more than welcome.
 
If I come across any others, I’ll post those too.
 
Victor
 

From: Brian Moore
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:03 PM
To: GTTsupport@groups.io
Subject: Re: [GTTsupport] Microsoft Office 2019: All the Changes, How to Buy it, and How it Compares to Office 365 Courtesy of LifeHacker
 
this is really helpful thanks.
 
Brian.
 
 
On 9/28/2018 9:59 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:
 
  You may have noticed that Microsoft began rolling out a new version of Microsoft Office early this week. That means that there are now three versions of
  Microsoft Office out in the wild—Office 2016, Office 365, and the brand-new Office 2019.
 
  If you’re curious about this new version of Microsoft Office, we’ve put together this guide to answer the biggest questions about Office 2019, such as
  how it differs from Office 2016 and Office 365, what features are (and aren’t) included, and when you can actually use it.
 
  What is Office 2019?
 
  Microsoft Office 2019 is a standalone, local (not cloud-based, like Office 365) version of the Microsoft Office software suite. It is a “perpetual” release,
  which is just a fancy way of saying you buy the software once and own it forever, rather than having to pay an annual subscription fee to access it. That
  said, you only get a license to use it on a single PC, whereas a subscription to Office 365 lets you use it on a PC, a tablet, and a smartphone.
 
  This new release updates and replaces the 2016 versions of Word, Excel, etc. and includes many of the new features that have been rolled out to Office
  365 users over the past three years. We’ll get to those in a bit.
 
  When is Office 2019 available, and how much will it cost?
 
  Office 2019 is on sale now, but only for commercial-level customers. Availability will be rolling out regular ol’ customers like you and me in the coming
  weeks. That also means we don’t yet know what the price point is for individual users, but Microsoft will likely have that info soon. Expect to potentially
  pay a bit more than what you’d shell out for Office 2016 (currently $150 for the “
  Home and Student
  ” version), as Microsoft already boosted the price of the commercial version
  ten percent
  to account for its “
  significant value added to the product over time
  .”
 
  What are the system requirements for Office 2019?
 
  Here’s a big change. On PCs, you’ll need Windows 10 for Office 2019; Microsoft will not support any versions of Windows 7 or 8. As always, Microsoft will
  make 32 and 64-bit versions of Office 2019 available.
 
  For Mac, Microsoft will support the three most recent versions of macOS, currently macOS Sierra (10.12), High Sierra (10.13), and Mojave (10.14). As Microsoft
  notes:
 
  block quote
  “When a new version of macOS is released, Office 2019 for Mac’s Operating System requirement becomes the then-current three most recent versions at that
  time: the new version of macOS and the previous two versions. For example, at the time macOS 10.14 is generally available from Apple, Office for Mac will
  support macOS 10.12, 10.13, and 10.14.”
  block quote end
 
  What new features can you expect?
 
  Here’s a quick rundown of the important updates Office 2016 users will see if they upgrade to Office 2019.
 
  Microsoft Word
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  With Office 2019, Microsoft
  says it’s focused on helping you, well… focus
  better when writing in Word. To do so, Word 2019 will be getting the aptly named Focus mode, which darkens the screen and reduces the displayed UI elements.
 
  Users will also have new “Learning Tools,” including new text-to-speech, text spacing, and translator features. Mac users will also now have customizable
  ribbons (aka drop-down menus) in their version of the Word interface.
 
  Outlook
 
  Like Word, Outlook is also getting a new focus mode, called the “Focused Inbox,” to help streamline workflow and email drafting. Users can now use “@”
  commands for tagging people in emails, and contact cards have been overhauled.
 
  Also, PC users will now have travel and delivery cards, while Mac users get new email templates; a Send Later function for scheduling delivery times; and
  read receipts. Both platforms also get Office 365 Group integration.
 
  PowerPoint
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  The changes for PowerPoint are all about enhanced media and visual element support in presentations. The notable additions here are support for 3D model
  display/manipulation and SVG files on slides; new morph transitions; the ability to export your presentation in 4K UHD video format, and you can now write
  by hand and move elements with your pencil while editing.
 
  OneNote
 
  OneNote is arguably
  the biggest change included in Office 2019.
  This is technically a new OneNote release entirely, one that can replace OneNote 2016 (though OneNote 2016 remains available and will be supported by Microsoft
  through 2025). This new version, dubbed OneNote for Windows 10, includes Ink-to-Text support, meaning your handwritten words will be turned into typed
  text, plus better syncing between connected devices.
 
  Excel
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  Finally, Excel gets a host of new functions—like new formulas and chart options, and support for 2D maps and timelines—to better present and organize your
  data. PC users will also receive updates to Power Pivot, Power Query, and the ability to export to Power BI.
 
  Better pencil support and other tweaks
 
  Image:
  Microsoft
 
  In addition to these program-specific updates, there are also changes that apply to all Office 2019 software. The most important of these is Microsoft’s
  beefed-up support for digital pencils, like expanded “roaming pencil case” support, which lets users write by hand and move parts of documents with their
  pencil, as well as new support for pressure sensitivity and tilt recognition. Office 2019 also comes with some behind-the-scenes changes such as monthly
  security updates and a reduction to network bandwidth use.
 
  Will Office 2019 replace Office 365?
 
  No. In a
  post announcing the software release,
  Microsoft makes sure to point out that Office 2019 is a standalone package of its software geared primarily towards private users and businesses who do
  not have the necessary internet access required to use the cloud-based Office 365. Because of this, many of the features present in the Office 365 versions
  of these apps are not included in their Office 2019 counterparts, especially cloud-based and collaborative features.
 
  Furthermore, Microsoft makes it clear that while Office 2019 will be receiving regular security fixes, it will not be getting expanded feature updates,
  while Office 365 users can still look forward to new and updated features through regular monthly updates just as they always have.
 
  The bottom line here is that Office 2019 is not going to replace Office 365, and it really isn’t meant to. That said, regardless of the particular use
  case, Office 2019 still fills a crucial role and services a section of Microsoft’s customer base that may have felt a bit neglected since Office 365 took
  the spotlight.
 
  Courtesy of LifeHacker at the following link:
 
 
  Victor
 

Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Carolyn
 

For Office 3365, INS+CTRL+V says “Microsoft Outlook Supscription Version 16.0.10730.2008. For my Outlook 2016, it says “Microsoft Retail Version 16…” (I didn’t bother to get all the digits).

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hi I have office 365 and I am using outlook 2016.

So how do I then know that I am using the 365 outlook or the outlook 2016 that I have had before making the change to 365?

I have checked under accounts and it says I have 365 but then when will outlook updated to a newer version?

 

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

I have Office 365 and I am not doing anything with the cloud. The software is loaded on my computer (Windows 10) and all of my files that I create and edit are on my hard drive. I have found the only difference is that in Outlook 365 I have to use SHIFT+F6 to get to the folder list, whereas on my work computer that has Outlook 2016, I can still SHIFT+TAB to get into the folder list. Otherwise all the same. I also do not use my Office 365 for much other than e-mail, a few Word documents, and an occasional Excel file.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hey Mike.

 

I hear you on that, and that’s why I got Office 2016 fairly recently as well.

 

I read a couple of FAQs and I’m still slightly mystified. But yeah, you download components of Office 365, but I think it’s smaller than a regular office download, and although I’m not quite sure how the subscription offers work, it is supposed to be cheaper than 2016/2019 as well.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: September 29, 2018 2:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hi JM,

 

Thanks much.  I had heard that you can get Office 365 as a downloadable version, hence the query, but I do not want a cloud subscription based program at all.  Thanks again.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:05 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Sounds like you want Office 2016 then. Office 365 is supposed to be “cloud-based” and subscription-oriented.

 

I have Office 2016 and it works well – better than Office 2010 did for the most part.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: September 29, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hi All,

 

I'm setting up a new Windows 10 Home laptop for my wife.  I would like to get feedback from those that used or know about both Office 2016 & Office 365.  I don't want a subscription but, I want an install version.

 

Would y'all please tell me which would be the best option?  I'm looking at the Home & Student version of either the Office or Office 365 since the program will get very little use.  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

Re: JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

Casey
 

Hi I have office 365 and I am using outlook 2016.

So how do I then know that I am using the 365 outlook or the outlook 2016 that I have had before making the change to 365?

I have checked under accounts and it says I have 365 but then when will outlook updated to a newer version?

 

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

I have Office 365 and I am not doing anything with the cloud. The software is loaded on my computer (Windows 10) and all of my files that I create and edit are on my hard drive. I have found the only difference is that in Outlook 365 I have to use SHIFT+F6 to get to the folder list, whereas on my work computer that has Outlook 2016, I can still SHIFT+TAB to get into the folder list. Otherwise all the same. I also do not use my Office 365 for much other than e-mail, a few Word documents, and an occasional Excel file.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hey Mike.

 

I hear you on that, and that’s why I got Office 2016 fairly recently as well.

 

I read a couple of FAQs and I’m still slightly mystified. But yeah, you download components of Office 365, but I think it’s smaller than a regular office download, and although I’m not quite sure how the subscription offers work, it is supposed to be cheaper than 2016/2019 as well.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: September 29, 2018 2:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hi JM,

 

Thanks much.  I had heard that you can get Office 365 as a downloadable version, hence the query, but I do not want a cloud subscription based program at all.  Thanks again.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:05 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Sounds like you want Office 2016 then. Office 365 is supposed to be “cloud-based” and subscription-oriented.

 

I have Office 2016 and it works well – better than Office 2010 did for the most part.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: September 29, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS vs Office 2016 / Office 365

 

Hi All,

 

I'm setting up a new Windows 10 Home laptop for my wife.  I would like to get feedback from those that used or know about both Office 2016 & Office 365.  I don't want a subscription but, I want an install version.

 

Would y'all please tell me which would be the best option?  I'm looking at the Home & Student version of either the Office or Office 365 since the program will get very little use.  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

jaws mailing list in french

Afik Suffir <afik.sofir@...>
 

 

Hello,

 

Can someone tell me how can I subscribe, or even find the jaws mailing list for French speaking?

 

Afik

 

Re: Saving password at Bard website

Glenn / Lenny
 

Try going back in, and when you tab to the user name field, arrow up and
down, and tab to the password field, and left and right to see if there are
asterisks there, if so, it has kept your password.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Saving password at Bard website


Thanks. Tried that, but notification menu didn' come up.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:58:49 -0500
"Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...> wrote:

Usually in IE, after submitting your login, you need to press alt + N to
go
to the notification area, and then you can do alt + Y for yes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@...>
To: "Jaws Users List" <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:44 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Saving password at Bard website


I'm using Windows 10, Jaws 19 beta and Internet Explorer.
Can't figure how to save my password on the Bard site. Any help is
appreciated.
********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com







Re: JAWS & Mozilla ESR conflicts

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Go to the options, privacy and security, and see if the “prevent accessibility services from accessing your browser” box is checked. It should be unchecked.

 

You should be aware though that there is some kind of bug that is causing JAWS 2018 and Firefox 57 and above to hang, particularly on pages with a lot of links. Not sure if this is reproduceable on all systems but it’s certainly the case with my 64-bit Firefox/Windows 10 setup.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: September 29, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS & Mozilla ESR conflicts

 

I read about this topic recently but could not find anything in the archives. My JAWS is 2018 latest on Win10 latest

and the problem is new with Firefox version

60.2.1esr (64-bit) currently on the esr update channel.

 

JAWS reads page title but nothing else except blank, blank, blank.

 

If anyone knows the fix, I’d appreciate it very much.

 

Cher