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Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

Glenn / Lenny
 

This may not be as good as a third-party software, but Windows 7 and maybe 10 as well has a malicious software tool included.
Press the windows key + R and type MRT and enter
That stands for malicious software removal tool.
HTH.
 
Glenn

From: joanne
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

What about for windows 7? Malware Bites doesn't seem real accessible but I do need a good spyware program.
 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:24 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.
Stanley

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Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

JM Casey
 

I recommend persevering with malwarebytes despite a somewhat annoying interface. It’s certainly usable, if not the most accessible thing out there. The thing is, it is a really good programme and the people behind it really know their stuff. It has saved my butt on at least three or four occasions, or at least helped me deal with obnoxious unwanted crap on my system.

Only thing is, like many programmes of its type, you should always make sure you understand a little of what you are getting rid of, when it flags stuff. Sometimes it will flag something like a change you made to the registry (either manually or through some other programme) that you actually want to keep/is actually wanted. You have to understand what kind of stuff MB flags and why. For instance, I replaced my task manager with Process Explorer some time back. Malwarebytes thinks this is a potential hack and so offers to remove the registry change.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: August 16, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

What about for windows 7? Malware Bites doesn't seem real accessible but I do need a good spyware program.

 

 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:24 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.

Stanley


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new Kronos Time keeping application

Van Lant, Robin
 

Anyone out there using the new Kronos time keeping system at their office?  We just upgraded to the new version and it’s challenging.   In the past Kronos had a java based version and an HTML version, the latter of which was reasonably accessible.  This new version is designed with more of the tiles and web design elements I’m struggling to access with JAWS.  Looking for any other users for input before I got to Kronos directly through my HR contact here.

 

 

 

 

               

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 



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Re: do you think this problem is a result of latest update or sound card issue

JM Casey
 

Hey.

 

This is interesting.

 

Sorry for the snark in advance, but isn’t Aira just a remote pair of eyes? :P

 

I’d be interested to know if there is a command line alternative to mdsched to bypass the gui entirely. I never ran this before myself; I just checked and it appears it has no command line switches and can’t be run without the interface. But maybe there is something else. That said, it shouldn’t be hard to just let the test run without speech (I doubt narrator will work here, but hey, maybe, give it a try) and then check results in event viewer.

Would still seem more efficient to me to just decide what you want, execute some command line switches and then have the results dumped into a text file. But hey…

 

Also note that if a memory stick registers ashaving “issues”, it might be something as simple as it having become slightly unseated, or some dirt got in there. Yes, it sounds stupid, but this happened once to my last PC. I was having inexplicable memory faults every so often for a while that would cause a system halt. Then one day the computer simply would not boot, giving me a steady beeping sound instead. So my ex and I opened up the case, gently cleaned around all the modules (it was a bit dusty in there as I recall!), and made sure everything was snugly in place. System booted perfectly after that.

 

But yeah, this may be a completely different problem.

 

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: August 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] do you think this problem is a result of latest update or sound card issue

 

That's strange.

 

First, I'd try a Jaws repair.  I'm not sure what is generating that tandem message you're getting.

 

Second, part of this issue sounds like some type of lock-up is occurring.  Have you run a good anti-virus and anti-malware scan recently? 

 

Does your hardware check out properly, i.e. is all your memory working properly?  Often, application dumps or freezes are a result of a memory problem.

 

I don't know if Narrator talks if you choose to do the memory check procedure as outlined below, otherwise, you'll need a pair of eyes or Aira to assist you:

 

 

 

 

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From: joanne

Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 10:48 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] do you think this problem is a result of latest update or sound card issue

 

I don't know how well I'll explain this but I'll try. It's rather complex and something I just haven't run across before; and too many times I've had to restart by using the button on computer because with Jaws acting this way I can't shut down or restart using Jaws. Not sure it is an issue with the latest update, but it started happening after installing it. I'll be doing just fine for awhile and then all of a sudden there'll be this pop-up from Jaws and no alt-tabbing will get me out of it. It says "this feature can only be used in tandem," and I'm not using tandem at the time and haven't used it in a long time. I attempt to restart Jaws and it says jaws 40 minute mode and that "this feature" message won't go away. It acts like the jaws key is locked by the way typed characters are shown. And it makes this click noise upon spacing. I can't restart it without this limited speech, so I use the button and it goes back to normal for awhile.

 

The reason I wonder if Jaws doesn't like the sound card anymore is I'm now afraid to play music while working with jaws because I don't know if the sound card doesn't like my doing 2 things at once and that's why that strange message. I did make sure "allow wave files" was checked but just don't know what's causing this craziness. I don't know if a restore will help. I'm very open to ideas.

 

Thanks.

 

Joanne

Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

Larry Volk
 

Windows 7 has a very good built in antivirus program, Microsoft Essentials. I used this one for many years and had no issues. If it’s not on your computer already just go to the internet and type in ‘download Microsoft Essentials’, after downloading just run the program or you could run it right from the download page.

 

 

Larry

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: August 16, 2019 11:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

What about for windows 7? Malware Bites doesn't seem real accessible but I do need a good spyware program.

 

 

Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:24 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.

Stanley


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Re: PowerPoint 2016, finding the 31 slide layouts

Van Lant, Robin
 

I have become rusty with PowerPoint, but just looked in 2016 to see what I could find. I do recall in Office 2010 that you could pull up that list of all the slide layouts and use F6 to get to it. I'm not seeing how to do that in 2016. The two relevant buttons I have found are on the home ribbon. Hit alt h, then tab about 6 times to a button called slides or once more to a button called Layout. Alt down arrow on either to get a grid of layout options. It's not 31, but it's probably the most common. I'll post again if I find the way to find more.

By the way, Freedom Scientific has a set of recent webinars on their training site on using PowerPoint 2016. I listened to the first so far.

it

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] PowerPoint 2016, finding the 31 slide layouts

In older versions of PowerPoint there were at least 30 options for
slide layouts. Title and one object, title and two objects, title,
object, and picture ... Listed in probably a grid, although I'm not
sure. In PowerPoint 2016 I cannot find this group of layouts. Oh,
wise ones, where the heck is it????

thanks a lot,

Ann






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Re: Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

I have Firefox as my default browser and use it for *most* things, but Chrome really is fast and good. The only reason I don’t use it more often is that I have some privacy concerns. A few things do work better in FF also. Firefox’s main problem right now is that very large pages (even with nothing but text) take forever to load into the virtual buffer, sometimes crashing the browser altogether.

Anyway, no need to limit yourself to one browser. I have five on my system right now. And most of them actually work basically the same from the settings/preferences standpoint, so there’s really no reason not to diversify your experience.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Stanley Smith
Sent: August 15, 2019 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

 

Hi Gerald.  Thanks for letting me know about this.  I really want something that's fast and will get the job done.

Stanley

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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:53 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

 

 

Yes, Google Chrome works very well with JAWS 2019.?? Many JAWS users have switched to it as their default browser because it is faster and less cumbersome than IE and Firefox.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 8/15/2019 6:50 AM, Stanley Smith wrote:

I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not Google Chrome works well with Jaws.?? Thanks a lot.

Stanley


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Re: text to speach

patti
 

Hi Richard,

I couldn’t get passed pressing alt H.

On my HP there is only 2 voices on there David, and 0, and I don’t like them.

 

Open the Jaws menu with insert-j,

hit alt-h

Arrow down to more voices and hit enter.

Look for the Vocalizer 2 voices and a combo box to choose which voice and arrow down to Samantha, and hit enter I believe to start the download.

If you run into trouble, you may want to call FS support.

HTH,

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Aug 16, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:



What do you mean you want to put Sam in your TTS? She's 1 of the Real Speak choices. So she should be 1 of the other voices you can download for JAWS. Sorry if you mean something else.

On 8/16/2019 10:46 AM, patti wrote:

Hey Gang,

I want to put Samantha in my text to speech, so when I play games I hear her voice.

How do I do that?

I’m running windows 10, 1903, MS2010, on a 64 bit laptop.

Thanks for any help

Patti

 

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Re: text to speach

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Patti,
 
After you press, Insert + J, just press the letter, H, then arrow down a couple of times to, More Voices..., and press enter.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
From: patti
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] text to speach

Hi Richard,

I couldn’t get passed pressing alt H.

On my HP there is only 2 voices on there David, and 0, and I don’t like them.

 

Open the Jaws menu with insert-j,

hit alt-h

Arrow down to more voices and hit enter.

Look for the Vocalizer 2 voices and a combo box to choose which voice and arrow down to Samantha, and hit enter I believe to start the download.

If you run into trouble, you may want to call FS support.

HTH,

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Aug 16, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcampos@...> wrote:



What do you mean you want to put Sam in your TTS? She's 1 of the Real Speak choices. So she should be 1 of the other voices you can download for JAWS. Sorry if you mean something else.

On 8/16/2019 10:46 AM, patti wrote:

Hey Gang,

I want to put Samantha in my text to speech, so when I play games I hear her voice.

How do I do that?

I’m running windows 10, 1903, MS2010, on a 64 bit laptop.

Thanks for any help

Patti

 

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Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

Jason White
 

Memory integrity protection uses virtualization hardware in the CPU to protect code in the operating system kernel from malicious modification. That, at least, is what I understand from the documentation.

 

It’s part of Microsoft’s strategy to make life much more difficult for malware authors, and therefore safer for users.

 

From: <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

Jason White
 

No, it doesn’t affect screen readers. I’ve used it successfully without any apparent effects.

 

From: <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of "JOHN RIEHL via Groups.Io" <REALMAN02@...>
Reply-To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 16, 2019 at 08:32
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Does turning on memory integrity protection negatively affect how JAWS or other screen readers work?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Windows Defender has received a positive evaluation in independent tests recently.

 

https://techreport.com/news/3464515/windows-defender-perfect-score-av-test/

 

I would suggest taking other precautions as well. For example, you can turn on memory integrity protection in the security settings, if your hardware supports it. You can also install Microsoft’s security baseline configuration, which enables various security features.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/windows-security-baselines

 

From: <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of chris judge <chrisjudge1967@...>
Reply-To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 16, 2019 at 05:44
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Hi Stanley. If you are using windows 10 you already have an antivirus program. It’s called windows security, or windows defender and is quite good.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Stanley Smith
Sent: August 16, 2019 1:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.

Stanley


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Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

JM Casey
 

According to an article I read, it’s also enabled by default starting with Windows 10 1809, so if there was a problem with this, it would have caused quite a stir by now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: August 16, 2019 6:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

No, it doesn’t affect screen readers. I’ve used it successfully without any apparent effects.

 

From: <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of "JOHN RIEHL via Groups.Io" <REALMAN02@...>
Reply-To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 16, 2019 at 08:32
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Does turning on memory integrity protection negatively affect how JAWS or other screen readers work?

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Windows Defender has received a positive evaluation in independent tests recently.

 

https://techreport.com/news/3464515/windows-defender-perfect-score-av-test/

 

I would suggest taking other precautions as well. For example, you can turn on memory integrity protection in the security settings, if your hardware supports it. You can also install Microsoft’s security baseline configuration, which enables various security features.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/windows-security-baselines

 

From: <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of chris judge <chrisjudge1967@...>
Reply-To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 16, 2019 at 05:44
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Hi Stanley. If you are using windows 10 you already have an antivirus program. It’s called windows security, or windows defender and is quite good.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Stanley Smith
Sent: August 16, 2019 1:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Are there any free antivirus programs out there that work reasonably well with Jaws?  Thanks a lot for the info.

Stanley


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Re: Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

JM Casey
 

Apparently, chrome is *getting* a reader mode, at least according to an article I found from April of this year. Until then though, you may be able to find an extension to do this. Someone who uses Chrome more than I do (I’m 90% a firefox user still) might want to chime in.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 13, 2019 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I haven't, but you could try using the sites with FireFox and use F9 to put it in reader mode.

If Chrome has a reader mode, I would like to know how to invoke it.

Glenn

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 8:03 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I’ve made no changes overnight to my system, and yet this morning, all of a sudden, JAWS has started interrupting “say all” with frequent bursts of gibberish. For example, it just now verbalized “617 s p a c e” before resuming reading regular text. When I quote a phrase like that, it might not seem like much, but these interruptions are very distracting, in part because it takes me several listens to interpret what’s being said.

 

I first experienced it today on the New York Times website and figured the Times had made yet one more accessibility-challenging website update. However, it’s happening on the second website I’ve visited, one that requires a password to enter.

 

I’m using the latest release of JAWS 2019 along with Windows 10 and, again, Chrome. I’ve rebooted twice to make sure all applications are in synch.

 

My workaround is to copy Website text to Notepad, but I don’t want to have to take this extra step every time.

 

Anyone else encountering this annoyance?

Re: Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

JM Casey
 

Not me, so far, but I wonder, is this only happening with ‘say all”?

Say all is something I hardly ever use unless I walk away from the computer and just have my bluetooth headphones on. It may seem anitquated or slow but I normally just arrow through. Now that I have my braille display I just advance at leisure. Anyway, not suggesting you do this, but I was just wondering if, when you focus on individual lines, the extra stuff is still read. Maybe you could copy out some of these lines so we can see what the gibberish actually looks like? That might help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: August 13, 2019 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I’ve made no changes overnight to my system, and yet this morning, all of a sudden, JAWS has started interrupting “say all” with frequent bursts of gibberish. For example, it just now verbalized “617 s p a c e” before resuming reading regular text. When I quote a phrase like that, it might not seem like much, but these interruptions are very distracting, in part because it takes me several listens to interpret what’s being said.

 

I first experienced it today on the New York Times website and figured the Times had made yet one more accessibility-challenging website update. However, it’s happening on the second website I’ve visited, one that requires a password to enter.

 

I’m using the latest release of JAWS 2019 along with Windows 10 and, again, Chrome. I’ve rebooted twice to make sure all applications are in synch.

 

My workaround is to copy Website text to Notepad, but I don’t want to have to take this extra step every time.

 

Anyone else encountering this annoyance?

Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

Mr. Ed
 

Hi,

I might have miss this but how do you make sure this is turned on?

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Memory integrity protection uses virtualization hardware in the CPU to protect code in the operating system kernel from malicious modification. That, at least, is what I understand from the documentation.

 

It’s part of Microsoft’s strategy to make life much more difficult for malware authors, and therefore safer for users.

 

From: <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
Organization: Home
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To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Re: Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

JM Casey
 

If you have Windows 10 1809 or later, and your system supports it, it will be turned on.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: August 16, 2019 7:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Hi,

I might have miss this but how do you make sure this is turned on?

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

Memory integrity protection uses virtualization hardware in the CPU to protect code in the operating system kernel from malicious modification. That, at least, is what I understand from the documentation.

 

It’s part of Microsoft’s strategy to make life much more difficult for malware authors, and therefore safer for users.

 

From: <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
Organization: Home
Reply-To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 16, 2019 at 09:47
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Free antivirus programs and Jaws.

 

emojis in email subject lines

Sandra Streeter
 

Hey, all,

 

Is there a way to make JAWS not speak emojis in the subject line of emails I receive (Outlook 2019, JAWS 2019, Win. 10)? they’re extremely distracting. Thanks!

 

 

 

Sandra

 

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(Nikola Tesla)

 

Web site shortcuts on desktop.

Judy Jones
 

Hello, All,

 

I’ve recently updated to Jaws 19, although my issue may not have anything to do with that.

 

I also had problems with Google Chrome crashing, so I restored the settings, as had been suggested in a help forum.

 

Now, however, any of the shortcuts on my desktop to sites just take me to the main Google Chrome page.

 

I have tried deleting and creating new shortcuts, but no changes.  I also tried checking the checkbox on the shortcut creation dialogue that says to open in a window, still no changes.

 

I’ve tried the various On Startup checkboxes, still no changes.

 

Does anyone have ideas for me?  As it is now, I have to type in the total url and can no longer use shortcuts.

 

Judy

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Re: Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

Adrian Spratt
 

It occurs only in ‘say all.” Unfortunately, since the problem occurs only in “say all,” I can’t copy a line to demonstrate. But the example I gave of a number followed by the five letters in “space” should give you an idea.

 

The guy I spoke to at FS on Tuesday said he would escalate the issue, but when I called this afternoon, there was no record of his having done so. It got worse at FS today, as I’ll detail in a post tomorrow.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

Not me, so far, but I wonder, is this only happening with ‘say all”?

Say all is something I hardly ever use unless I walk away from the computer and just have my bluetooth headphones on. It may seem anitquated or slow but I normally just arrow through. Now that I have my braille display I just advance at leisure. Anyway, not suggesting you do this, but I was just wondering if, when you focus on individual lines, the extra stuff is still read. Maybe you could copy out some of these lines so we can see what the gibberish actually looks like? That might help.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: August 13, 2019 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I’ve made no changes overnight to my system, and yet this morning, all of a sudden, JAWS has started interrupting “say all” with frequent bursts of gibberish. For example, it just now verbalized “617 s p a c e” before resuming reading regular text. When I quote a phrase like that, it might not seem like much, but these interruptions are very distracting, in part because it takes me several listens to interpret what’s being said.

 

I first experienced it today on the New York Times website and figured the Times had made yet one more accessibility-challenging website update. However, it’s happening on the second website I’ve visited, one that requires a password to enter.

 

I’m using the latest release of JAWS 2019 along with Windows 10 and, again, Chrome. I’ve rebooted twice to make sure all applications are in synch.

 

My workaround is to copy Website text to Notepad, but I don’t want to have to take this extra step every time.

 

Anyone else encountering this annoyance?

Re: Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

Adrian Spratt
 

I don’t really understand the fascination with reader mode. It gets grumpy when you interrupt to check you’ve heard something right, you can’t go back and forth between windows, and clicking on a link within an article disrupts it. Reader mode is for sitting back and passively listening.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

Apparently, chrome is *getting* a reader mode, at least according to an article I found from April of this year. Until then though, you may be able to find an extension to do this. Someone who uses Chrome more than I do (I’m 90% a firefox user still) might want to chime in.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 13, 2019 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I haven't, but you could try using the sites with FireFox and use F9 to put it in reader mode.

If Chrome has a reader mode, I would like to know how to invoke it.

Glenn

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 8:03 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Sudden gibberish in "say all" with JAWS and Chrome

 

I’ve made no changes overnight to my system, and yet this morning, all of a sudden, JAWS has started interrupting “say all” with frequent bursts of gibberish. For example, it just now verbalized “617 s p a c e” before resuming reading regular text. When I quote a phrase like that, it might not seem like much, but these interruptions are very distracting, in part because it takes me several listens to interpret what’s being said.

 

I first experienced it today on the New York Times website and figured the Times had made yet one more accessibility-challenging website update. However, it’s happening on the second website I’ve visited, one that requires a password to enter.

 

I’m using the latest release of JAWS 2019 along with Windows 10 and, again, Chrome. I’ve rebooted twice to make sure all applications are in synch.

 

My workaround is to copy Website text to Notepad, but I don’t want to have to take this extra step every time.

 

Anyone else encountering this annoyance?