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Re: Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

chris judge
 

Yes it does. The more recent the version of jaws the better.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Stanley Smith
Sent: August 15, 2019 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

 

I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not Google Chrome works well with Jaws.  Thanks a lot.

Stanley


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Re: Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

Gerald Levy
 


Yes, Google Chrome works very well with JAWS 2019.?? Many JAWS users have switched to it as their default browser because it is faster and less cumbersome than IE and Firefox.


Gerald



On 8/15/2019 6:50 AM, Stanley Smith wrote:
I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not Google Chrome works well with Jaws.?? Thanks a lot.
Stanley

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Re: Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

David Ferrin
 

Yes it does, quite well in fact. Welcome to the list.
 

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Subject: [jaws-users] Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?
 
I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not Google Chrome works well with Jaws.  Thanks a lot.
Stanley

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Does Google Chrome work with Jaws?

Stanley Smith
 

I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not Google Chrome works well with Jaws.  Thanks a lot.
Stanley

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Re: lost focus

David Ferrin
 

It does not happen here hardly ever. It might possibly be something else that is the cause.
 

From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus
 

I think I have had the “lost focus” issue ever since coming from Window-eyes to Jaws last year. Without exception, when I open Outlook every single time I am told “lost focus” and have to alt tab to regain focus. It isn’t a disaster, but it is irritating.

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: 14 August 2019 17:16
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

Alright yeah this is real serious than. I mean this than is practicaly a new PC. I'd call FX.

On 8/14/2019 12:10 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

This has always been a problem with windows seven and now 10.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

HI Holger,

 

It sounds like you have something going on in the background that's causing the focus loss issue.  I don't have this problem with any version of Jaws I have installed on my Windows 7 or 10 computers.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
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From: Holger Fiallo

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than.

On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

For more than 9 years.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue.

On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done.

On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is

 

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Re: lost focus

CJ &AA MAY
 

I think I have had the “lost focus” issue ever since coming from Window-eyes to Jaws last year. Without exception, when I open Outlook every single time I am told “lost focus” and have to alt tab to regain focus. It isn’t a disaster, but it is irritating.

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: 14 August 2019 17:16
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

Alright yeah this is real serious than. I mean this than is practicaly a new PC. I'd call FX.

On 8/14/2019 12:10 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

This has always been a problem with windows seven and now 10.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

HI Holger,

 

It sounds like you have something going on in the background that's causing the focus loss issue.  I don't have this problem with any version of Jaws I have installed on my Windows 7 or 10 computers.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

If I am doing something and I open a program and leave my PC for a while when I do insert t tells me lost focus. Even if I am using a program tends to go to lost focus. If I leave my PC on desk top and come back it says lost focus and I need to use windows M to go back.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

Oh wow okay. It happens to you constantly? Because I've seen it happen but here and there. But yeah I'm surprised they haven't done something. I never meantioned it to Erick because I again always thought the PCs were confused when it happened. Guess I was wrong than.

On 8/14/2019 9:33 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

For more than 9 years.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

Understood. Now when you say this has always been a problem how far back do you remmember this happening? Again I just wanted to be fair as my PCs aren't exactly new. So figured it was a processing issue. But perhaps I'm wrong. If someone with a brand new PC is seeing this let us know. Because then 1 can be dam sure it's JAWS. There's lots of funny things JAWS is doing but again I don't wana judge right away as the small laptop I have that I bought in 2016 is itself being kinda strange and I'm not convenced it is truely new. Again though I have seen this issue especially comeing out of folders or shutting down software but always assumed it's a the PC is kinda confused kinda issue.

On 8/14/2019 9:07 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Well yes. But I am paying for jaws. I am using Windows 10 current and to let you know. This has always been a problem with jaws. I do not understand why this can not be address. Now if this is not a jaws issue, they need to let us know.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

I've seen this too but not just with the newest JAWS. To be fair I'm trying to think what PC I've seen this most on. I don't have a brand spanking new out of box PC so I don't wana jump right away on FS. It's true NVDA doesn't exactly do this. But than again NVDA doesn't do lots of things. like when you hit the like button on a youtube video it's not all talky and stuff. It just says space as you hit than added to liked videos or it says nothing if you unliked the vid. There's all kinds of stuff like that. But yes I've seen this lost focus thing more and more but for a while back now. Again I wana be fair I don't have a brand spanking new PC so could be that the PCS are old. But if indeed it is a JAWS issue than yes something needs to be done.

On 8/14/2019 5:01 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is

 

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Re: JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

JM Casey
 

Hi.

Yeah, well…I don’t have access to JAWS 2019. And I know I’m not the only one. So bloody annoyed.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: August 14, 2019 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

The latest JAWS 2019 update apparently fixes this issue, which occurs in Skype 8.51 (dated 12 August 2019).

 

I suspect older versions of JAWS, including 2018, are affected also; but the fix is in the latest JAWS 2019. So your best option is to upgrade to JAWS 2019 and try it with that version.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Well…this wasn’t happening to me before yesterday. And, I do not have JAWS 2019, else I would likely be using it.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: August 14, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Hi, when reading the message about the latest release it says  it has fixed a known problem with skype scrips not loading. So install the latest version of Jaws and see if it fixes it for you.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2019 5:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Dekstop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Hi.

The subject generally explains what I think has happened. Yesterday I invoked skype as I normally do (unusually for me, I actually have a hotkey for this), and, the user account control came up. I saw a quick “setup” screen, and the programme seemed to be updating. I feel like it wasn’t a major update because I seem to remember being on skype 8.51.something previously. Anyway, now it says, Skype 8.51.0.72, which it says is the latest version.

I’m using JAWS 2018, and as well as the native JAWS skype scripts, I had installed scripts from http://www.dlee.com, which add a little bit of extra functionality and keyboard commands.

Now, none of the scripts are loading. When I check with insert-q, JAWS announces that the scripts for “Google chrome settings” are running. I understand skype for desktop is now a chromium-based application, and if there were no scripts specifically designed for skype, this is exactly what it would say. But these scripts were all working fine until last night.

The programme is slightly usable without scripts, but it’s not great. Braille display does not track in message history (and increasily I like working with speech off so I can more comfortably listen to music or whatever). I have to keep remembering to hit insert-z to turn off the virtual cursor when typing.

Another weird thing, which may be related, is that  the first time I invoke skype, now, the programme activates, but seems to be minimised. I have “run in background” turned off in settings; in fact, my actual skype settings don’t seem to have changed at all.

What has gone wrong here? Anybody have any suggestions?


Re: JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

Jason White
 

The latest JAWS 2019 update apparently fixes this issue, which occurs in Skype 8.51 (dated 12 August 2019).

 

I suspect older versions of JAWS, including 2018, are affected also; but the fix is in the latest JAWS 2019. So your best option is to upgrade to JAWS 2019 and try it with that version.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Well…this wasn’t happening to me before yesterday. And, I do not have JAWS 2019, else I would likely be using it.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: August 14, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Hi, when reading the message about the latest release it says  it has fixed a known problem with skype scrips not loading. So install the latest version of Jaws and see if it fixes it for you.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2019 5:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Dekstop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Hi.

The subject generally explains what I think has happened. Yesterday I invoked skype as I normally do (unusually for me, I actually have a hotkey for this), and, the user account control came up. I saw a quick “setup” screen, and the programme seemed to be updating. I feel like it wasn’t a major update because I seem to remember being on skype 8.51.something previously. Anyway, now it says, Skype 8.51.0.72, which it says is the latest version.

I’m using JAWS 2018, and as well as the native JAWS skype scripts, I had installed scripts from http://www.dlee.com, which add a little bit of extra functionality and keyboard commands.

Now, none of the scripts are loading. When I check with insert-q, JAWS announces that the scripts for “Google chrome settings” are running. I understand skype for desktop is now a chromium-based application, and if there were no scripts specifically designed for skype, this is exactly what it would say. But these scripts were all working fine until last night.

The programme is slightly usable without scripts, but it’s not great. Braille display does not track in message history (and increasily I like working with speech off so I can more comfortably listen to music or whatever). I have to keep remembering to hit insert-z to turn off the virtual cursor when typing.

Another weird thing, which may be related, is that  the first time I invoke skype, now, the programme activates, but seems to be minimised. I have “run in background” turned off in settings; in fact, my actual skype settings don’t seem to have changed at all.

What has gone wrong here? Anybody have any suggestions?


Re: JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

JM Casey
 

Well…this wasn’t happening to me before yesterday. And, I do not have JAWS 2019, else I would likely be using it.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: August 14, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Hi, when reading the message about the latest release it says  it has fixed a known problem with skype scrips not loading. So install the latest version of Jaws and see if it fixes it for you.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2019 5:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Dekstop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Hi.

The subject generally explains what I think has happened. Yesterday I invoked skype as I normally do (unusually for me, I actually have a hotkey for this), and, the user account control came up. I saw a quick “setup” screen, and the programme seemed to be updating. I feel like it wasn’t a major update because I seem to remember being on skype 8.51.something previously. Anyway, now it says, Skype 8.51.0.72, which it says is the latest version.

I’m using JAWS 2018, and as well as the native JAWS skype scripts, I had installed scripts from http://www.dlee.com, which add a little bit of extra functionality and keyboard commands.

Now, none of the scripts are loading. When I check with insert-q, JAWS announces that the scripts for “Google chrome settings” are running. I understand skype for desktop is now a chromium-based application, and if there were no scripts specifically designed for skype, this is exactly what it would say. But these scripts were all working fine until last night.

The programme is slightly usable without scripts, but it’s not great. Braille display does not track in message history (and increasily I like working with speech off so I can more comfortably listen to music or whatever). I have to keep remembering to hit insert-z to turn off the virtual cursor when typing.

Another weird thing, which may be related, is that  the first time I invoke skype, now, the programme activates, but seems to be minimised. I have “run in background” turned off in settings; in fact, my actual skype settings don’t seem to have changed at all.

What has gone wrong here? Anybody have any suggestions?


Re: JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

Dale Heltzer
 

If you are using OneDrive, GoogleDrive, or some other cloud storage, shutdown will be blocked because these “drives” haven’t been updated. You just tell Windows to shutdown anyway. It’s a Windows thing, not a JAWS thing. +1 for FS… at least, not a -1!

 

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

 

Hmmmmm sounds like something on the list of things FS should fix. I've not seen this. How ever what I have seen is that now sometimes for what ever reason Windows blocks the shut down because it wants me to save my work. lol Like it can't tell JAWS is a screan reader and there's no need to save nothing nor shut JAWS down.

On 8/14/2019 2:39 PM, George Martinez Sr wrote:

Windows 10 Creators, 1809 (OS Build 17763.615)
JAWS 2019.1907

This morning I was entering a report at a website when JAWS would not open an Edit field no matter what I did.
I minimized my work & moved back into my computer where JAWS was not announcing Icons on my Desktop and when I moved to the Task Bar & Tabbed it would not announce the icons there either.
When I finally managed to activate INS + F4 I noticed the selections were preceeded by "Update" then Shutdown or Reboot.
This has happened to me at least 2 times before when a Windows update comes in and is painful and a time waster to say the least.
Any ideas what Windows 10 is doing to me and a possible fix I can do so that a pending update does not make my JAWS go wonky>?

George

 

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Re: JAWS Skype for Desktop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

Sharon S
 

Hi, when reading the message about the latest release it says  it has fixed a known problem with skype scrips not loading. So install the latest version of Jaws and see if it fixes it for you.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2019 5:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Skype for Dekstop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

 

Hi.

The subject generally explains what I think has happened. Yesterday I invoked skype as I normally do (unusually for me, I actually have a hotkey for this), and, the user account control came up. I saw a quick “setup” screen, and the programme seemed to be updating. I feel like it wasn’t a major update because I seem to remember being on skype 8.51.something previously. Anyway, now it says, Skype 8.51.0.72, which it says is the latest version.

I’m using JAWS 2018, and as well as the native JAWS skype scripts, I had installed scripts from http://www.dlee.com, which add a little bit of extra functionality and keyboard commands.

Now, none of the scripts are loading. When I check with insert-q, JAWS announces that the scripts for “Google chrome settings” are running. I understand skype for desktop is now a chromium-based application, and if there were no scripts specifically designed for skype, this is exactly what it would say. But these scripts were all working fine until last night.

The programme is slightly usable without scripts, but it’s not great. Braille display does not track in message history (and increasily I like working with speech off so I can more comfortably listen to music or whatever). I have to keep remembering to hit insert-z to turn off the virtual cursor when typing.

Another weird thing, which may be related, is that  the first time I invoke skype, now, the programme activates, but seems to be minimised. I have “run in background” turned off in settings; in fact, my actual skype settings don’t seem to have changed at all.

What has gone wrong here? Anybody have any suggestions?


Re: lost focus

Dale Heltzer
 

A quick google search on which is better for viewing youtube, IE or chrome, suggests chrome is better.

Youtube has been a subsidiary company of Google for over a decade. IE will still work, but why not seek to minimize irritants? Try Chrome. Just a thought, and only a thought.

 

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

True this too. As for the new hard ware thing interesting you meantion this because I'd thought that this would practically would make the PC new again. Maybe not then I guess. I also wander how the talks between FS and Google are cause of the talkyness of JAWS and lack of saying important things. Interesting if you do use IE on youtube all is pretty much business as usual. Which makes me ask is there perhaps code in JAWS that is still 90s code than? Could it perhaps be time for a total make over for JAWS? Maybe this is for a new thread but JAWS does seem to still for my youtube experience at least does seem to favor IE. So maybe theere is still favoritism for older versions of Windows. I don't know. I never thought to ask Eric. This year on top of my not thinking of these things this way I couldn't make it to NFB convention.

On 8/14/2019 3:34 PM, Dale Heltzer wrote:

I agree that FS should devote more resource to fixing long-standing issues with points where JFW fumbles.

That being said, there is such a wide variety of ways pc configurations may differ, there is probably not just one fix to be made. Maybe it’s as bad analogy, but it’s a bit like in dividualized medicine.

 

Plus, I understand that Microsoft began in Windows 10 to use a different method for writing information to the screen. I don’t know how tight the communication is between MS & FS, but I’d would think FS would have made the needed updates already!

Which is all academic if you’re dealing with a pc that isn’t performing as well as it did in the past, despite paying for new HW and/or SW.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is

 

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Re: JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi george,
 
Try going into Windows Updates and Security and under the Updates tab go to the, Change active hours, or the, Advanced options.  Between these 2 you should be able to get the updates to come down when you're not using the computer.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:39 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

Windows 10 Creators, 1809 (OS Build 17763.615)
JAWS 2019.1907

This morning I was entering a report at a website when JAWS would not open an Edit field no matter what I did.
I minimized my work & moved back into my computer where JAWS was not announcing Icons on my Desktop and when I moved to the Task Bar & Tabbed it would not announce the icons there either.
When I finally managed to activate INS + F4 I noticed the selections were preceeded by "Update" then Shutdown or Reboot.
This has happened to me at least 2 times before when a Windows update comes in and is painful and a time waster to say the least.
Any ideas what Windows 10 is doing to me and a possible fix I can do so that a pending update does not make my JAWS go wonky>?

George


Re: jaws errors.

JM Casey
 

It could be crashing and restarting, the way the last few editions of JFW try to recover from errors. Usually you will hear JAWS announce itself when it starts up again, but for various reasons, it's possible that you'd miss it.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of michaeel's mail
Sent: August 14, 2019 8:11 AM
To: new jaws help list <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] jaws errors.

Hi guys i have noticed in my windows 10 in control pannel under reliability history I see a few messages. saying application file for jaws has stopped working.

I have not noticed that jaws is crashing.

Running latest jaws. and latest win 10.

Cheers Michael.


Re: lost focus

Hamit Campos
 

True this too. As for the new hard ware thing interesting you meantion this because I'd thought that this would practically would make the PC new again. Maybe not then I guess. I also wander how the talks between FS and Google are cause of the talkyness of JAWS and lack of saying important things. Interesting if you do use IE on youtube all is pretty much business as usual. Which makes me ask is there perhaps code in JAWS that is still 90s code than? Could it perhaps be time for a total make over for JAWS? Maybe this is for a new thread but JAWS does seem to still for my youtube experience at least does seem to favor IE. So maybe theere is still favoritism for older versions of Windows. I don't know. I never thought to ask Eric. This year on top of my not thinking of these things this way I couldn't make it to NFB convention.

On 8/14/2019 3:34 PM, Dale Heltzer wrote:

I agree that FS should devote more resource to fixing long-standing issues with points where JFW fumbles.

That being said, there is such a wide variety of ways pc configurations may differ, there is probably not just one fix to be made. Maybe it’s as bad analogy, but it’s a bit like in dividualized medicine.

 

Plus, I understand that Microsoft began in Windows 10 to use a different method for writing information to the screen. I don’t know how tight the communication is between MS & FS, but I’d would think FS would have made the needed updates already!

Which is all academic if you’re dealing with a pc that isn’t performing as well as it did in the past, despite paying for new HW and/or SW.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is


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JAWS Skype for Dekstop scripts no longer functioning after skype update

JM Casey
 

Hi.

The subject generally explains what I think has happened. Yesterday I invoked skype as I normally do (unusually for me, I actually have a hotkey for this), and, the user account control came up. I saw a quick “setup” screen, and the programme seemed to be updating. I feel like it wasn’t a major update because I seem to remember being on skype 8.51.something previously. Anyway, now it says, Skype 8.51.0.72, which it says is the latest version.

I’m using JAWS 2018, and as well as the native JAWS skype scripts, I had installed scripts from http://www.dlee.com, which add a little bit of extra functionality and keyboard commands.

Now, none of the scripts are loading. When I check with insert-q, JAWS announces that the scripts for “Google chrome settings” are running. I understand skype for desktop is now a chromium-based application, and if there were no scripts specifically designed for skype, this is exactly what it would say. But these scripts were all working fine until last night.

The programme is slightly usable without scripts, but it’s not great. Braille display does not track in message history (and increasily I like working with speech off so I can more comfortably listen to music or whatever). I have to keep remembering to hit insert-z to turn off the virtual cursor when typing.

Another weird thing, which may be related, is that  the first time I invoke skype, now, the programme activates, but seems to be minimised. I have “run in background” turned off in settings; in fact, my actual skype settings don’t seem to have changed at all.

What has gone wrong here? Anybody have any suggestions?


Re: lost focus

Dale Heltzer
 

I agree that FS should devote more resource to fixing long-standing issues with points where JFW fumbles.

That being said, there is such a wide variety of ways pc configurations may differ, there is probably not just one fix to be made. Maybe it’s as bad analogy, but it’s a bit like in dividualized medicine.

 

Plus, I understand that Microsoft began in Windows 10 to use a different method for writing information to the screen. I don’t know how tight the communication is between MS & FS, but I’d would think FS would have made the needed updates already!

Which is all academic if you’re dealing with a pc that isn’t performing as well as it did in the past, despite paying for new HW and/or SW.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

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Dale E. Heltzer

deheltzer@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] lost focus

 

I am noticing that with the new jaws that came out lost focus is more regular. When jaws is going to fix this? When I used NVDA this was not a problem. I am sure that jaws who has more resources than NVDA can fix this. If this is not a jaws issue what it it? NVDA free and this is not an issue. I pay for jaws and if this a problem, I believe is time to address this. Hope someone who goes and ask questions to jaws can do about this.is


Re: JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

Hamit Campos
 

Hmmmmm sounds like something on the list of things FS should fix. I've not seen this. How ever what I have seen is that now sometimes for what ever reason Windows blocks the shut down because it wants me to save my work. lol Like it can't tell JAWS is a screan reader and there's no need to save nothing nor shut JAWS down.

On 8/14/2019 2:39 PM, George Martinez Sr wrote:
Windows 10 Creators, 1809 (OS Build 17763.615)
JAWS 2019.1907

This morning I was entering a report at a website when JAWS would not open an Edit field no matter what I did.
I minimized my work & moved back into my computer where JAWS was not announcing Icons on my Desktop and when I moved to the Task Bar & Tabbed it would not announce the icons there either.
When I finally managed to activate INS + F4 I noticed the selections were preceeded by "Update" then Shutdown or Reboot.
This has happened to me at least 2 times before when a Windows update comes in and is painful and a time waster to say the least.
Any ideas what Windows 10 is doing to me and a possible fix I can do so that a pending update does not make my JAWS go wonky>?

George

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Re: JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

Mike Bernard
 

Hello George,

I’ve had the same type of issue from time to time. It’ actually will happen with any version of windows or screen reader. Unfortunately, there’s no real way to stop this. All you can really do is save any open documents, do the reboot, and once you’re all logged back in, reopen everything and go on from there.

Mike

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

 

Windows 10 Creators, 1809 (OS Build 17763.615)
JAWS 2019.1907

This morning I was entering a report at a website when JAWS would not open an Edit field no matter what I did.
I minimized my work & moved back into my computer where JAWS was not announcing Icons on my Desktop and when I moved to the Task Bar & Tabbed it would not announce the icons there either.
When I finally managed to activate INS + F4 I noticed the selections were preceeded by "Update" then Shutdown or Reboot.
This has happened to me at least 2 times before when a Windows update comes in and is painful and a time waster to say the least.
Any ideas what Windows 10 is doing to me and a possible fix I can do so that a pending update does not make my JAWS go wonky>?

George


JAWS becomes irregular with pending Windows 10 update

George Martinez Sr
 

Windows 10 Creators, 1809 (OS Build 17763.615)
JAWS 2019.1907

This morning I was entering a report at a website when JAWS would not open an Edit field no matter what I did.
I minimized my work & moved back into my computer where JAWS was not announcing Icons on my Desktop and when I moved to the Task Bar & Tabbed it would not announce the icons there either.
When I finally managed to activate INS + F4 I noticed the selections were preceeded by "Update" then Shutdown or Reboot.
This has happened to me at least 2 times before when a Windows update comes in and is painful and a time waster to say the least.
Any ideas what Windows 10 is doing to me and a possible fix I can do so that a pending update does not make my JAWS go wonky>?

George

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