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Re: Another Winamp Question

Victor Gouveia
 

I have not found a way to shut off the device detection setting in Winamp, however, you do not have to turn your computer off to fix the issue.
 
Simply bring up your task manager with control+shift+escape and arrow down until you hear Winamp.  Pressing alt+E will end the process and you can then use Winamp as normal from then on.
 
You don’t have to arrow down the list though, you can just press the W key until you land on Winamp, then end the process.
 
I would be interested if anyone is able to turn this feature on and off with Winamp.
 
Victor
 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 4:04 PM
To: Jaws Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Another Winamp Question
 

Hello, everyone.

 

Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like:  “Winamp has detected a an external drive;  do you want Winamp to access  this drive?”.

 

There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.

 

I have tried enter, and the space bar.  I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.

 

Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.

 

And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.

 

Has anyone experienced this issue?  If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?

 

I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

Another Winamp Question

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like:  “Winamp has detected a an external drive;  do you want Winamp to access  this drive?”.

 

There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.

 

I have tried enter, and the space bar.  I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.

 

Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.

 

And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.

 

Has anyone experienced this issue?  If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?

 

I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

Re: admin note-David is the man!

Mr. Ed
 

Hi David and Mike,

Sorry I did not see your email soon enough this morning when I replied to Joseph asking him where he got his info on Freedom Scientific bankruptcy. I apologize for sending out the emails.

You guys do a great job running this list.

Have a good day.😁

Mr. Ed

  

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] admin note-David is the man!

 

I agree, thank you for all you do in maintaining this list and I love it. Don't have many questions that I haven't found answers for in the manual. Thanks again for this list, you are very much appreciated. 


On Aug 9, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Mike Capelle <mcap@...> wrote:

I agree, you run your list, like I run mine, no BS, tight like a rench.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] admin note-David is the man!

 

David, your rules are clear and some just won't play fair. They can start their own lists and leave the rest of us alone! We appreciate you and the other admins and are very grateful for this list. Those who insist on spamming the rest of us with endless repetition and complaints should go away. We learn so much from you guys! Thank you so much!

 

Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Aug 9, 2019 7:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] admin note


This is the last time I am going to see such behavior on any list I have a part of managing. The topic is locked if I did it correctly so there should not be any further discussion. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific then take it up with them directly.

 

Tell you what, if anybody doubts me on this go ahead and smart off back to me.


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: admin note-David is the man!

Charles Adkins
 

I agree, thank you for all you do in maintaining this list and I love it. Don't have many questions that I haven't found answers for in the manual. Thanks again for this list, you are very much appreciated. 


On Aug 9, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Mike Capelle <mcap@...> wrote:

I agree, you run your list, like I run mine, no BS, tight like a rench.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] admin note-David is the man!

 

David, your rules are clear and some just won't play fair. They can start their own lists and leave the rest of us alone! We appreciate you and the other admins and are very grateful for this list. Those who insist on spamming the rest of us with endless repetition and complaints should go away. We learn so much from you guys! Thank you so much!

 

Wayne



-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Aug 9, 2019 7:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] admin note

This is the last time I am going to see such behavior on any list I have a part of managing. The topic is locked if I did it correctly so there should not be any further discussion. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific then take it up with them directly.

 

Tell you what, if anybody doubts me on this go ahead and smart off back to me.


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: admin note-David is the man!

 

I agree, you run your list, like I run mine, no BS, tight like a rench.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] admin note-David is the man!

 

David, your rules are clear and some just won't play fair. They can start their own lists and leave the rest of us alone! We appreciate you and the other admins and are very grateful for this list. Those who insist on spamming the rest of us with endless repetition and complaints should go away. We learn so much from you guys! Thank you so much!

 

Wayne



-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Aug 9, 2019 7:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] admin note

This is the last time I am going to see such behavior on any list I have a part of managing. The topic is locked if I did it correctly so there should not be any further discussion. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific then take it up with them directly.

 

Tell you what, if anybody doubts me on this go ahead and smart off back to me.


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: admin note-David is the man!

wayne smith
 

David, your rules are clear and some just won't play fair. They can start their own lists and leave the rest of us alone! We appreciate you and the other admins and are very grateful for this list. Those who insist on spamming the rest of us with endless repetition and complaints should go away. We learn so much from you guys! Thank you so much!


Wayne



-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Aug 9, 2019 7:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] admin note

This is the last time I am going to see such behavior on any list I have a part of managing. The topic is locked if I did it correctly so there should not be any further discussion. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific then take it up with them directly.
 
Tell you what, if anybody doubts me on this go ahead and smart off back to me.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

no sound to let you no when a file is done downloading with Jaws and chrome.

Joseph Machise <josephmachise@...>
 

hi list, does anybody have a fix so when you download a file in chrome and jaws you hear the sound like Internet explorer, thanks.

admin note

David Ferrin
 

This is the last time I am going to see such behavior on any list I have a part of managing. The topic is locked if I did it correctly so there should not be any further discussion. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific then take it up with them directly.
 
Tell you what, if anybody doubts me on this go ahead and smart off back to me.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

David Ferrin
 

OK folks this is not the kind of thing anybody wants me to wake up and view in my inbox.
 
This is only the first email of the day and my finger is already on the eject button. This thread is done as of 7:53 in the morning Eastern time. Anybody argues with me or any member of my team is out of here and we’ll send your luggage later.
 

From: Joseph Machise
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 7:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific
 
about  Jaws and  freedom scientific,    Hi list, wait to you hear this one,
Well another friend had this come up after he added or went in to the jaws settings center,
he added some key strokes for the window eyes keyboard another words, you can add a windows strokes like in windoweyes in windoweyes you can add the hole keyboard or I think 1 keystroke at a time, and also there is in the tab you tab once and you can delete the key board, or the keystroke, unlike windoweyes, there is no delete key in the settings center or after tabbing around in there, when you add it there should be one and he worked on the computer for hours and hours.
So he finally called Freedom scientific he doesn't call that much, the customer person who he talked to was rude and flipid and was nasty, my point is that he told me, that she didn't want to tell him how to delete the keystroke, in case he needed to, he finely convinced her after arguing with her back and forth, and also after reinstalling windows10, with her snotty attitude, she said, well this is for very advanced users, and he had to tell her that he had been using computers for a very long time, here is what she said.
Well sir it is in the user settings jaws and then in the enu, this shows you how stupid and pigheaded freedom scientific is , and this is why there is always trouble with Jaws, and freedom scientific, once again is now in bankrupsey, I hope they go out of business, and a better company takes over, and redoes jaws, so it won't mess around with windows, Microsoft, should have never let freedom scientific, get under the hood, they should have done the same thing that apple did, keep a closed system, folks, if NVDA can do it why can't freedom scientific do the same thing, this is not a very good and reliable company, your thoughts please from Joseph.

David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

Joseph Machise <josephmachise@...>
 


Hi david, how can I collect the wevbsits like i do in firefox, after I open my home page in firefox I just up erro, but in chrome don't no what to do 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Hi you are exactly right just enter on what you said and you can add as many websites as you want. I am glad it is starting to work better for you. Go chrome! You will love it once you get used to it! David Moore


On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 8:31 PM Joseph Machise <josephmachise@... wrote:
thanks David, well I did that, and chrome came up with add a new page button, so I did that, would some day like to add my coast page also, my weather page is my home page, also where can I add my coast page, do I tab to the other buttons that says add a specific page from Joseph.   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Sure thing! Just go to the settings webpage and down arrow to three buttons. The third button says select page or pages. Press enter on that, and arrow down to the edit box, and just type in the Google web address. That is all I did to get Google to be my homepage, and start page. I really like Google to be my start page and home page as well. I like Google a lot, and don't use the search engine either. I hope that works, David Moore


On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 8:06 PM Joseph Machise <josephmachise@... wrote:
grate David, can you or someone help with getting my homepage in google chrome, so it will startup like in IE and firefox, don't want to go to the search engine, unless I do thanks a lot David from Joe, my friend will be happy to hear this about freedom scientific, i'm using windows7   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

yes, and when you listen to the fs casts they make it sound like Jaws is the only thing that keeps blind people working. They had someone on the last podcast bragging about how they can work for Disney all because of Jaws Larry gassman said that many more people would be unemployed if it was not for Jaws freedom scientific is lying to people and they make it sound like they are the only reason why any blind people have a job.
David Moore come on oh my God where's my job what the heck

Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific, ADMIN'S Note

Joseph Machise <josephmachise@...>
 

sorry didn't no not posting anymore

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific, ADMIN'S Note

Joseph,
 
Read the list rules!  Posts' like your original post require list owner or moderator approval! 
 
This thread was told to stop!  Further more, your original post suggested that this was a personal experience that actually took place and now it's some kind of crap you read somewhere else.  Now stop immediately!

Jaws-Users-List.groups.io
Mike B, List Moderator.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Mister edde, got this from roger behm, his website is
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Hi Joseph,

You said in your email below that Freedom Scientific has filed for bankruptcy.  I have never heard this but was wondering if you have an article on it or where you got your information from. I am not saying it not true or false, I am just wanting to read it for myself.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

about  Jaws and  freedom scientific,    Hi list, wait to you hear this one,

Well another friend had this come up after he added or went in to the jaws settings center,

 he added some key strokes for the window eyes keyboard another words, you can add a windows strokes like in windoweyes in windoweyes you can add the hole keyboard or I think 1 keystroke at a time, and also there is in the tab you tab once and you can delete the key board, or the keystroke, unlike windoweyes, there is no delete key in the settings center or after tabbing around in there, when you add it there should be one and he worked on the computer for hours and hours.

So he finally called Freedom scientific he doesn't call that much, the customer person who he talked to was rude and flipid and was nasty, my point is that he told me, that she didn't want to tell him how to delete the keystroke, in case he needed to, he finely convinced her after arguing with her back and forth, and also after reinstalling windows10, with her snotty attitude, she said, well this is for very advanced users, and he had to tell her that he had been using computers for a very long time, here is what she said.

Well sir it is in the user settings jaws and then in the enu, this shows you how stupid and pigheaded freedom scientific is , and this is why there is always trouble with Jaws, and freedom scientific, once again is now in bankrupsey, I hope they go out of business, and a better company takes over, and redoes jaws, so it won't mess around with windows, Microsoft, should have never let freedom scientific, get under the hood, they should have done the same thing that apple did, keep a closed system, folks, if NVDA can do it why can't freedom scientific do the same thing, this is not a very good and reliable company, your thoughts please from Joseph. 

Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific, ADMIN'S Note

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Joseph,
 
Read the list rules!  Posts' like your original post require list owner or moderator approval! 
 
This thread was told to stop!  Further more, your original post suggested that this was a personal experience that actually took place and now it's some kind of crap you read somewhere else.  Now stop immediately!

Jaws-Users-List.groups.io
Mike B, List Moderator.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Mister edde, got this from roger behm, his website is
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Hi Joseph,

You said in your email below that Freedom Scientific has filed for bankruptcy.  I have never heard this but was wondering if you have an article on it or where you got your information from. I am not saying it not true or false, I am just wanting to read it for myself.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

about  Jaws and  freedom scientific,    Hi list, wait to you hear this one,

Well another friend had this come up after he added or went in to the jaws settings center,

 he added some key strokes for the window eyes keyboard another words, you can add a windows strokes like in windoweyes in windoweyes you can add the hole keyboard or I think 1 keystroke at a time, and also there is in the tab you tab once and you can delete the key board, or the keystroke, unlike windoweyes, there is no delete key in the settings center or after tabbing around in there, when you add it there should be one and he worked on the computer for hours and hours.

So he finally called Freedom scientific he doesn't call that much, the customer person who he talked to was rude and flipid and was nasty, my point is that he told me, that she didn't want to tell him how to delete the keystroke, in case he needed to, he finely convinced her after arguing with her back and forth, and also after reinstalling windows10, with her snotty attitude, she said, well this is for very advanced users, and he had to tell her that he had been using computers for a very long time, here is what she said.

Well sir it is in the user settings jaws and then in the enu, this shows you how stupid and pigheaded freedom scientific is , and this is why there is always trouble with Jaws, and freedom scientific, once again is now in bankrupsey, I hope they go out of business, and a better company takes over, and redoes jaws, so it won't mess around with windows, Microsoft, should have never let freedom scientific, get under the hood, they should have done the same thing that apple did, keep a closed system, folks, if NVDA can do it why can't freedom scientific do the same thing, this is not a very good and reliable company, your thoughts please from Joseph. 

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

Joseph Machise <josephmachise@...>
 

Mister edde, got this from roger behm, his website is
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Hi Joseph,

You said in your email below that Freedom Scientific has filed for bankruptcy.  I have never heard this but was wondering if you have an article on it or where you got your information from. I am not saying it not true or false, I am just wanting to read it for myself.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

about  Jaws and  freedom scientific,    Hi list, wait to you hear this one,

Well another friend had this come up after he added or went in to the jaws settings center,

 he added some key strokes for the window eyes keyboard another words, you can add a windows strokes like in windoweyes in windoweyes you can add the hole keyboard or I think 1 keystroke at a time, and also there is in the tab you tab once and you can delete the key board, or the keystroke, unlike windoweyes, there is no delete key in the settings center or after tabbing around in there, when you add it there should be one and he worked on the computer for hours and hours.

So he finally called Freedom scientific he doesn't call that much, the customer person who he talked to was rude and flipid and was nasty, my point is that he told me, that she didn't want to tell him how to delete the keystroke, in case he needed to, he finely convinced her after arguing with her back and forth, and also after reinstalling windows10, with her snotty attitude, she said, well this is for very advanced users, and he had to tell her that he had been using computers for a very long time, here is what she said.

Well sir it is in the user settings jaws and then in the enu, this shows you how stupid and pigheaded freedom scientific is , and this is why there is always trouble with Jaws, and freedom scientific, once again is now in bankrupsey, I hope they go out of business, and a better company takes over, and redoes jaws, so it won't mess around with windows, Microsoft, should have never let freedom scientific, get under the hood, they should have done the same thing that apple did, keep a closed system, folks, if NVDA can do it why can't freedom scientific do the same thing, this is not a very good and reliable company, your thoughts please from Joseph. 

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

Say can we change the subject line if this is drifting off jaws and FS?

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Joseph Machise
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 5:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

tried that no luck

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:57 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

Joe,

I believe that if you put other pages in there, you can control + tab through them.

Otherwise, you can go to the address bar and arrow down.

Glenn

 

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:46 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

well david how can I go from another page to another page, maybe some time we can do a tandum,

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:34 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

Hi you are exactly right just enter on what you said and you can add as many websites as you want. I am glad it is starting to work better for you. Go chrome! You will love it once you get used to it! David Moore

 

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 8:31 PM Joseph Machise <josephmachise@... wrote:

thanks David, well I did that, and chrome came up with add a new page button, so I did that, would some day like to add my coast page also, my weather page is my home page, also where can I add my coast page, do I tab to the other buttons that says add a specific page from Joseph.   

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:23 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

Sure thing! Just go to the settings webpage and down arrow to three buttons. The third button says select page or pages. Press enter on that, and arrow down to the edit box, and just type in the Google web address. That is all I did to get Google to be my homepage, and start page. I really like Google to be my start page and home page as well. I like Google a lot, and don't use the search engine either. I hope that works, David Moore

 

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 8:06 PM Joseph Machise <josephmachise@... wrote:

grate David, can you or someone help with getting my homepage in google chrome, so it will startup like in IE and firefox, don't want to go to the search engine, unless I do thanks a lot David from Joe, my friend will be happy to hear this about freedom scientific, i'm using windows7   

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:51 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

yes, and when you listen to the fs casts they make it sound like Jaws is the only thing that keeps blind people working. They had someone on the last podcast bragging about how they can work for Disney all because of Jaws Larry gassman said that many more people would be unemployed if it was not for Jaws freedom scientific is lying to people and they make it sound like they are the only reason why any blind people have a job.
David Moore come on oh my God where's my job what the heck

 

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

Angel
 


I do think, to be entirely fair, most employers will not allow another screen reader on its computers.  Among those who are currently or have worked and are now retired, it is the only screen reader which they used on their employers work machines.  When scripts need writing, it was those employed by, or those familiar with jaws, who wrote them. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

yes, and when you listen to the fs casts they make it sound like Jaws is the only thing that keeps blind people working. They had someone on the last podcast bragging about how they can work for Disney all because of Jaws Larry gassman said that many more people would be unemployed if it was not for Jaws freedom scientific is lying to people and they make it sound like they are the only reason why any blind people have a job.
David Moore come on oh my God where's my job what the heck

Re: WLM Inquiry

Mr. Ed
 

Hi Mike,

No harm done Mike. Don’t let it bother you in the lease.

Have a good day.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi Mr. Ed,

 

I'm sorry if my rant sounded like it was directed towards you, but it was not.  I was venting an opinion that I had been wanting to express for quite awhile now and finally let it go.  It mainly stems from folks from another list that can't let people use their own computers the way they want without telling them what to run or how to run it.  I'm sorry if I offended you because that wasn't the intention.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:27 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi Mike,

I was just expressing my opinion so don’t pull all your hair out just yet. I know you don’t have any hair left anyway. 😁  I wouldn’t tell you what to run on your computer. LOL

Have a good day.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi Victor,

 

Damn straight!  LOL  LOL  I've been using that antiquated, outdated and unsupported Outlook Express with both Windows 7 & 10 for many years without being attacked by martians or hacked by other countries as of yet!  LOL  LOL  It might not read as much with Jaws 17 and newer, but Jaws 16 still has the OE scripts and works well with both Widows 7 & 10.  How many times does this list, letalone all the other help lists, get questions about crap happening with Outlook or any of these other up to date supported email clients?  OE and WLM may have their issues, but their issues pale in comparison.  Sorry for the rant, but I just get tired of people telling me what I'm supposed to run on my computers!  When these others pay for my equipment, then they can tell me what to run!  LOL  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 3:15 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Even though it’s not supported, the bugs are very few and a restart of your system will fix most bugs.

 

The fact is, just because it’s not supported, doesn’t mean it doesn’t serve a purpose.

 

If one uses common sense when reading e-mails, reads they’re messages in plain text and only open attachments from people they trust or are confirmed to be safe, most people do and can use Outlook Express, in it’s various forms and Windows Live Mail.

 

For me, the fact that Outlook keeps getting newer and newer features added on to it, makes it a bulky application for it’s use.  A great application, but too many features when you just want to read mail, that’s why people want to stick with Windows Live Mail, Outlook Express or Thunderbird.  Heck, I even think Eudora is still around.  Grinns.

 

Victor

 

From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 5:49 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi Glen,

Outlook Express has not been around for many years. I know Microsoft is not supporting it and hasn’t for many many years. If I had to guess I would say OE has not been supported for over more than 10 years or longer is my guess.

You can Google it and find many sources telling you that it is not supported.

Mr. Ed

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

I don't know that the particular one I know of is not secure.

And I was informed that it is a one-time purchase.

Perhaps you know of a different OE?

Glenn

 

From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:25 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi,

Why do you want to invest money into email programs that are outdated and no longer receiving security updates. Both WLM and Outlook Express Have not been supported for many many years now. Also they are going to have bugs every time a new Jaws or Windows has an update. I don’t know why you would want to keep struggling with these outdated email programs. We have enough glitches with just Jaws and Windows to dive us crazy. I am sure some of you are going to say I cannot afford to buy Outlook which I think is the best email program. I think you can purchase it for around $5 a month I think. Correct me if I am wrong on the exact  price. Then you can have Outlook, Word, Excel on I think five computers. They do have the windows mail program that comes with Windows 10 but I don’t use it or like it. Some use Thunderbird and other email programs. So there are numerous email programs that you could use that are updated and have security. So why not use one that is supported and secure.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Seems like it's between 10 and 20 dollars.

Glenn

 

From: jyandt.martin@...

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:47 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

How much does it cost?

 

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 2:21 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

My WLM is also quite unpredictable.

I'm considering purchasing the third-party Outlook Express program.

Glenn

 

 

From: jyandt.martin@...

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:17 PM

To: jaws-users-list

Subject: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Afternoon all.

 

Using JAWS 2019, Windows 10 and WLMs current version, I have attempted to send a forwarded message to two different email addresses, and got a failure message. However, I have been able to send different messages to addresses such as this one without difficulty. Any ideas or suggestions on this? Thanks in advance.

 

Jerry

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

Mr. Ed
 

Hi Joseph,

You said in your email below that Freedom Scientific has filed for bankruptcy.  I have never heard this but was wondering if you have an article on it or where you got your information from. I am not saying it not true or false, I am just wanting to read it for myself.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

about  Jaws and  freedom scientific,    Hi list, wait to you hear this one,

Well another friend had this come up after he added or went in to the jaws settings center,

 he added some key strokes for the window eyes keyboard another words, you can add a windows strokes like in windoweyes in windoweyes you can add the hole keyboard or I think 1 keystroke at a time, and also there is in the tab you tab once and you can delete the key board, or the keystroke, unlike windoweyes, there is no delete key in the settings center or after tabbing around in there, when you add it there should be one and he worked on the computer for hours and hours.

So he finally called Freedom scientific he doesn't call that much, the customer person who he talked to was rude and flipid and was nasty, my point is that he told me, that she didn't want to tell him how to delete the keystroke, in case he needed to, he finely convinced her after arguing with her back and forth, and also after reinstalling windows10, with her snotty attitude, she said, well this is for very advanced users, and he had to tell her that he had been using computers for a very long time, here is what she said.

Well sir it is in the user settings jaws and then in the enu, this shows you how stupid and pigheaded freedom scientific is , and this is why there is always trouble with Jaws, and freedom scientific, once again is now in bankrupsey, I hope they go out of business, and a better company takes over, and redoes jaws, so it won't mess around with windows, Microsoft, should have never let freedom scientific, get under the hood, they should have done the same thing that apple did, keep a closed system, folks, if NVDA can do it why can't freedom scientific do the same thing, this is not a very good and reliable company, your thoughts please from Joseph. 

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

Richard Turner
 

With all do respect, could the Chrome discussion be started under a different thread?


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:46 PM, Joseph Machise <josephmachise@...> wrote:


well david how can I go from another page to another page, maybe some time we can do a tandum,
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Hi you are exactly right just enter on what you said and you can add as many websites as you want. I am glad it is starting to work better for you. Go chrome! You will love it once you get used to it! David Moore


On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 8:31 PM Joseph Machise <josephmachise@... wrote:
thanks David, well I did that, and chrome came up with add a new page button, so I did that, would some day like to add my coast page also, my weather page is my home page, also where can I add my coast page, do I tab to the other buttons that says add a specific page from Joseph.   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

Sure thing! Just go to the settings webpage and down arrow to three buttons. The third button says select page or pages. Press enter on that, and arrow down to the edit box, and just type in the Google web address. That is all I did to get Google to be my homepage, and start page. I really like Google to be my start page and home page as well. I like Google a lot, and don't use the search engine either. I hope that works, David Moore


On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 8:06 PM Joseph Machise <josephmachise@... wrote:
grate David, can you or someone help with getting my homepage in google chrome, so it will startup like in IE and firefox, don't want to go to the search engine, unless I do thanks a lot David from Joe, my friend will be happy to hear this about freedom scientific, i'm using windows7   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

yes, and when you listen to the fs casts they make it sound like Jaws is the only thing that keeps blind people working. They had someone on the last podcast bragging about how they can work for Disney all because of Jaws Larry gassman said that many more people would be unemployed if it was not for Jaws freedom scientific is lying to people and they make it sound like they are the only reason why any blind people have a job.
David Moore come on oh my God where's my job what the heck

Re: WLM Inquiry

Glenn / Lenny
 

oh come on now Wilber.
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

Hi Mr. Ed,
 
I'm sorry if my rant sounded like it was directed towards you, but it was not.  I was venting an opinion that I had been wanting to express for quite awhile now and finally let it go.  It mainly stems from folks from another list that can't let people use their own computers the way they want without telling them what to run or how to run it.  I'm sorry if I offended you because that wasn't the intention.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

Hi Mike,

I was just expressing my opinion so don’t pull all your hair out just yet. I know you don’t have any hair left anyway. 😁  I wouldn’t tell you what to run on your computer. LOL

Have a good day.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi Victor,

 

Damn straight!  LOL  LOL  I've been using that antiquated, outdated and unsupported Outlook Express with both Windows 7 & 10 for many years without being attacked by martians or hacked by other countries as of yet!  LOL  LOL  It might not read as much with Jaws 17 and newer, but Jaws 16 still has the OE scripts and works well with both Widows 7 & 10.  How many times does this list, letalone all the other help lists, get questions about crap happening with Outlook or any of these other up to date supported email clients?  OE and WLM may have their issues, but their issues pale in comparison.  Sorry for the rant, but I just get tired of people telling me what I'm supposed to run on my computers!  When these others pay for my equipment, then they can tell me what to run!  LOL  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 3:15 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Even though it’s not supported, the bugs are very few and a restart of your system will fix most bugs.

 

The fact is, just because it’s not supported, doesn’t mean it doesn’t serve a purpose.

 

If one uses common sense when reading e-mails, reads they’re messages in plain text and only open attachments from people they trust or are confirmed to be safe, most people do and can use Outlook Express, in it’s various forms and Windows Live Mail.

 

For me, the fact that Outlook keeps getting newer and newer features added on to it, makes it a bulky application for it’s use.  A great application, but too many features when you just want to read mail, that’s why people want to stick with Windows Live Mail, Outlook Express or Thunderbird.  Heck, I even think Eudora is still around.  Grinns.

 

Victor

 

From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 5:49 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi Glen,

Outlook Express has not been around for many years. I know Microsoft is not supporting it and hasn’t for many many years. If I had to guess I would say OE has not been supported for over more than 10 years or longer is my guess.

You can Google it and find many sources telling you that it is not supported.

Mr. Ed

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

I don't know that the particular one I know of is not secure.

And I was informed that it is a one-time purchase.

Perhaps you know of a different OE?

Glenn

 

From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:25 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Hi,

Why do you want to invest money into email programs that are outdated and no longer receiving security updates. Both WLM and Outlook Express Have not been supported for many many years now. Also they are going to have bugs every time a new Jaws or Windows has an update. I don’t know why you would want to keep struggling with these outdated email programs. We have enough glitches with just Jaws and Windows to dive us crazy. I am sure some of you are going to say I cannot afford to buy Outlook which I think is the best email program. I think you can purchase it for around $5 a month I think. Correct me if I am wrong on the exact  price. Then you can have Outlook, Word, Excel on I think five computers. They do have the windows mail program that comes with Windows 10 but I don’t use it or like it. Some use Thunderbird and other email programs. So there are numerous email programs that you could use that are updated and have security. So why not use one that is supported and secure.

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Seems like it's between 10 and 20 dollars.

Glenn

 

From: jyandt.martin@...

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:47 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

How much does it cost?

 

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 2:21 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

My WLM is also quite unpredictable.

I'm considering purchasing the third-party Outlook Express program.

Glenn

 

 

From: jyandt.martin@...

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:17 PM

To: jaws-users-list

Subject: [jaws-users] WLM Inquiry

 

Afternoon all.

 

Using JAWS 2019, Windows 10 and WLMs current version, I have attempted to send a forwarded message to two different email addresses, and got a failure message. However, I have been able to send different messages to addresses such as this one without difficulty. Any ideas or suggestions on this? Thanks in advance.

 

Jerry

locked Re: about Jaws and freedom scientific

Holger Fiallo
 

My last thought about this if more companies use apple, I wonder how many of us will use jaws. I do use jaws and like it but like I stated.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 7:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

That was probably because of a sales pitch, either from the rehab agency, or from someone at FS.

 

 

From: Andy

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

Well, actually, JAWS kept me working on my last job because my employer would only pay for JAWS and would only allow me to use JAWS as a screen reader.

 

Andy

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 4:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

This is why I use nvda and system access all the way.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] about Jaws and freedom scientific

 

yes, and when you listen to the fs casts they make it sound like Jaws is the only thing that keeps blind people working. They had someone on the last podcast bragging about how they can work for Disney all because of Jaws Larry gassman said that many more people would be unemployed if it was not for Jaws freedom scientific is lying to people and they make it sound like they are the only reason why any blind people have a job.
David Moore come on oh my God where's my job what the heck