Date   

update

Holger Fiallo
 

It is 8:53 AM in Chicago and I got the new update for JAWS.

I take it that this will be the last update since in October the beta for 2020 will come soon?


Re: JAWS update for July-August

Mike Capelle <mcap@...>
 

This usually happens, once the updates are posted.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS update for July-August

Hi can you pass along the link for the down loads page so we can get the new update when it comes out.



On 8/6/2019 7:20 AM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
FSCast came out on Monday and updates for JAWS, Zoom-Text and Fusion
are due out today. That usually means around 10 AM eastern time 7
Pacific.
Although it could be earlier so, monitor the FS Page.
John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification





--

Casey


Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Gerald Levy
 

Supposedly, the shutdown sound was removed from Windows 10 to make the shut down process faster.?? Really?


Gerald

On 8/6/2019 8:58 AM, Russ wrote:
Has any one talked to Microsoft why they removed the windows 10 shutdown sound?

-----Original Message----- From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

Hi Gerald.

this is an issue that makes me leery about buying a computer with
an SSD.?? Because an SSD emits no noise like a mechanical hard drive, it
would be almost impossible to tell for sure that your Windows 10 PC has
shut down successfully because there is no shutdown sound like in
Windows 7. Sometimes, you might hear "JAWS for Windows" when the
shutdown has initiated, but there is no reliable way to tell whether it
has powered off unless it has a DVD drive on which you can simply press
the eject button to tell whether it is off.
Your computer is shutting down when speech disappears. You can also
pay attention to the sound of its fan. When the fan stops blowing,
your system has shut down entirely.

Also, I have read that although a solid state drive may be more
reliable as a mechanical hard
drive, it may not last as long because its memory cells tend to wear out
over time and eventually become unusable with repeated write cycles.?? Is
this true?
I've never heard this.. Both my solid state drives have lasted three
years so far.

Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
and Pedagogue
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090
Email: ofiol@verizon.net







Re: JAWS update for July-August

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Casey,
 
I'll be posting all the update info a little later this morning.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
From: Casey
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS update for July-August

Hi can you pass along the link for the down loads page so we can get the
new update when it comes out.



On 8/6/2019 7:20 AM, John Gassman wrote:
> Hi,
> FSCast came out on Monday and updates for JAWS, Zoom-Text and Fusion
> are due out today. That usually means around 10 AM eastern time 7
> Pacific.
> Although it could be earlier so, monitor the FS Page.
> John
>
>
>
> JAWS Certified, 2014.
> http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification
>
>
>
>
>
>
--

Casey




My Account

Pastor Gil Pries
 

My internet provider is CenturyLink.

This bouncing started on Saturday.

 

Pastor Gil


Re: JAWS update for July-August

Casey
 

Hi can you pass along the link for the down loads page so we can get the new update when it comes out.

On 8/6/2019 7:20 AM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
FSCast came out on Monday and updates for JAWS, Zoom-Text and Fusion are due out today. That usually means around 10 AM eastern time 7 Pacific.
Although it could be earlier so, monitor the FS Page.
John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification




--

Casey


thunderbird replying

Lenny McHugh <LennyMcHugh@...>
 

I am still trying to set up Thunderbird on this win 10 machine with the latest jaws. I wanted to do a test for top posting. When I reply to my message the to field is not filled in. Any thoughts on where I have to make a setting change?

--

Please visit my web page
It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor
There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind
: https://www.LennyMcHugh.com
International Brotherhood of Magicians member #4399


Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Russ
 

Has any one talked to Microsoft why they removed the windows 10 shutdown sound?

-----Original Message-----
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

Hi Gerald.

this is an issue that makes me leery about buying a computer with
an SSD.?? Because an SSD emits no noise like a mechanical hard drive, it
would be almost impossible to tell for sure that your Windows 10 PC has
shut down successfully because there is no shutdown sound like in
Windows 7. Sometimes, you might hear "JAWS for Windows" when the
shutdown has initiated, but there is no reliable way to tell whether it
has powered off unless it has a DVD drive on which you can simply press
the eject button to tell whether it is off.
Your computer is shutting down when speech disappears. You can also
pay attention to the sound of its fan. When the fan stops blowing,
your system has shut down entirely.

Also, I have read that although a solid state drive may be more
reliable as a mechanical hard
drive, it may not last as long because its memory cells tend to wear out
over time and eventually become unusable with repeated write cycles.?? Is
this true?
I've never heard this.. Both my solid state drives have lasted three
years so far.

Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
and Pedagogue
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090
Email: ofiol@verizon.net


Re: My Account

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

I suspect this might have something to do with your email provider . Groups.io seems to have issues with some of the services. Since the problem of the bouncing is not universal, there has to be some cause on your side. Which email client are you using and what is your provider?
Marie
 
 

From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 12:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] My Account
 

My account keeps bouncing.

I go to the groups.io and unbounce it, but it goes back to a bounced condition.

Can you guys check it on your end?

 

Thanks,

 

Pastor Gil


Re: jaws with decTalk access32 and speak-windows?

Russ
 

Has anyone ask CodeFactory about selling Dectalk?
 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws with decTalk access32 and speak-windows?
 
what would be best is if CodeFactory sold a sapi5 version of decTalk access-32, using decTalk 4.3 or 4.2 software since that decTalk version is the best. 


locked Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

John Gassman <johngassman@...>
 

thank You!
JohnAt 05:27 AM 8/6/2019, you wrote:
I just take this opportunity to congratulate you John for your award, of
which I heard this morning on FS's fscast. Apologies to our group for this
offtopic comment, but since it involves a member of our group, I just
thought it to be appropriate.
Take care,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of John Gassman
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

I'm using Malware Bites but so is my brother and
he's not having these problems.
I think I have Google Accessibility pulling out
all of their hair trying to solve this problem.
JohnAt 01:40 PM 8/5/2019, you wrote:
Hi.


I've had Chrome just disappear a time or two in
the past few months, but nothing directly
related to downloads. If this is only happening
when you download something, I wonder if what
ever Antimalware utility you use outside of
Chrome is causing this when it scans the file as
soon as Chrome unlocks it, or perhaps before
Chrome unlocks it, and that's stirring up
trouble somehow. I wish it wasn't that
intermittent. How are you going to know if what
changes you make is actually a fix? If you do
figure out how to crash it every time, maybe try
it once with external Antimalware disabled
temporarily to see if it still happens?


I'm running normal non development Chrome and I
do have Ad Block Plus installed in it. I also
have Chrome Sounds and a couple of other
extensions enabled. I guess it might be worth
uninstalling or resetting your Chrome and, if
you sync your Chrome with your google account,
not syncing it again until you've tried to reproduce the problem a bit.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General
Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make
Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 8/4/2019 7:33 PM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
So far nobody has been able to duplicate this
situation. I'm posting it here to see if anybody has suggestions.
While downloading using Chrome several weeks
ago, the application would finish downloading
and I could do a say line to hear the current
line but nothing else when I moved around.
I had to use task manager to close down Chrome.
It happened with all three screen readers on my
desktop, JAWS, NVDA andn Narrator.
I wrote to Google Disability thinking it was Chrome.
then with the next JAWS Private Beta build the
problem went away only to reappear about ten days ago.
I wasn't sure if it was indeed a screen reader
problem or something in a recent Google update.
this last Thursday with the newest Private
build of JAWS, the problem went away again.
the problem is that JAWS and Google updated
about the same time so I don't know if its
Google, a screen reader conflict or maybe both.
So far Google hasn't been able to come up with
a solution or even duplicate it.
And if JAWS, NVDA or Narrator are involved, where would I go from here?
Would the JAWS logs show FS anything?
Has anybody else experienced this?
I especially see it with BARD and other websites from which I download.
I'm using the latest JAWS private build and
Windows 10 update as well as Chrome Version
76.0.3809.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
I just tried an experiment and went into About
for Chrome and got an update this morning.
And with the latest Chrome build which just
updated as I wrote this message, I have another Chrome Crash.
When I go into task manager to get rid of
Chrome, I also see a message which says:
AdBlock has crashed. Click this balloon to reload the extension.
Sometimes its another app or extension that has
crashed so it is not always the same one.
I can use Chrome Canary and have never seen this crash happen.
Any ideas as to what is causing this and how to solve it?

John


John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification




JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification







JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


locked Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

John Gassman <johngassman@...>
 

That's why I didn't mention it on this list.
The award is the highest disney can give its employees and without JAWS, there's no way I could have remained employed for these 16 years at Disney and three more at Braille Institute.
FSCast 173 has the story if you want to hear about it.
JohnAt 05:35 AM 8/6/2019, you wrote:
The problem is if 50 people or more for example post such a message it would create a lot of bandwidth usage that an already busy list does not need. I myself woke up to 86 emails in my inbox this morning that took quite some time to read over.

This is why we monitor so tightly and try to keep things flowing smoothly.

-----Original Message----- From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

I just take this opportunity to congratulate you John for your award, of
which I heard this morning on FS's fscast. Apologies to our group for this
offtopic comment, but since it involves a member of our group, I just
thought it to be appropriate.
Take care,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of John Gassman
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

I'm using Malware Bites but so is my brother and
he's not having these problems.
I think I have Google Accessibility pulling out
all of their hair trying to solve this problem.
JohnAt 01:40 PM 8/5/2019, you wrote:
Hi.


I've had Chrome just disappear a time or two in
the past few months, but nothing directly
related to downloads. If this is only happening
when you download something, I wonder if what
ever Antimalware utility you use outside of
Chrome is causing this when it scans the file as
soon as Chrome unlocks it, or perhaps before
Chrome unlocks it, and that's stirring up
trouble somehow. I wish it wasn't that
intermittent. How are you going to know if what
changes you make is actually a fix? If you do
figure out how to crash it every time, maybe try
it once with external Antimalware disabled
temporarily to see if it still happens?


I'm running normal non development Chrome and I
do have Ad Block Plus installed in it. I also
have Chrome Sounds and a couple of other
extensions enabled. I guess it might be worth
uninstalling or resetting your Chrome and, if
you sync your Chrome with your google account,
not syncing it again until you've tried to reproduce the problem a bit.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General
Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make
Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 8/4/2019 7:33 PM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
So far nobody has been able to duplicate this
situation. I'm posting it here to see if anybody has suggestions.
While downloading using Chrome several weeks
ago, the application would finish downloading
and I could do a say line to hear the current
line but nothing else when I moved around.
I had to use task manager to close down Chrome.
It happened with all three screen readers on my
desktop, JAWS, NVDA andn Narrator.
I wrote to Google Disability thinking it was Chrome.
then with the next JAWS Private Beta build the
problem went away only to reappear about ten days ago.
I wasn't sure if it was indeed a screen reader
problem or something in a recent Google update.
this last Thursday with the newest Private
build of JAWS, the problem went away again.
the problem is that JAWS and Google updated
about the same time so I don't know if its
Google, a screen reader conflict or maybe both.
So far Google hasn't been able to come up with
a solution or even duplicate it.
And if JAWS, NVDA or Narrator are involved, where would I go from here?
Would the JAWS logs show FS anything?
Has anybody else experienced this?
I especially see it with BARD and other websites from which I download.
I'm using the latest JAWS private build and
Windows 10 update as well as Chrome Version
76.0.3809.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
I just tried an experiment and went into About
for Chrome and got an update this morning.
And with the latest Chrome build which just
updated as I wrote this message, I have another Chrome Crash.
When I go into task manager to get rid of
Chrome, I also see a message which says:
AdBlock has crashed. Click this balloon to reload the extension.
Sometimes its another app or extension that has
crashed so it is not always the same one.
I can use Chrome Canary and have never seen this crash happen.
Any ideas as to what is causing this and how to solve it?

John


John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification











JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


Test

Pastor Gil Pries
 

Test

Pastor Gil


locked Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Sure David and I apologise. Won't be repeated. Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 3:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google
Chrome crashes

The problem is if 50 people or more for example post such a message it would

create a lot of bandwidth usage that an already busy list does not need. I
myself woke up to 86 emails in my inbox this morning that took quite some
time to read over.

This is why we monitor so tightly and try to keep things flowing smoothly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google
Chrome crashes

I just take this opportunity to congratulate you John for your award, of
which I heard this morning on FS's fscast. Apologies to our group for this
offtopic comment, but since it involves a member of our group, I just
thought it to be appropriate.
Take care,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of John Gassman
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

I'm using Malware Bites but so is my brother and
he's not having these problems.
I think I have Google Accessibility pulling out
all of their hair trying to solve this problem.
JohnAt 01:40 PM 8/5/2019, you wrote:
Hi.


I've had Chrome just disappear a time or two in
the past few months, but nothing directly
related to downloads. If this is only happening
when you download something, I wonder if what
ever Antimalware utility you use outside of
Chrome is causing this when it scans the file as
soon as Chrome unlocks it, or perhaps before
Chrome unlocks it, and that's stirring up
trouble somehow. I wish it wasn't that
intermittent. How are you going to know if what
changes you make is actually a fix? If you do
figure out how to crash it every time, maybe try
it once with external Antimalware disabled
temporarily to see if it still happens?


I'm running normal non development Chrome and I
do have Ad Block Plus installed in it. I also
have Chrome Sounds and a couple of other
extensions enabled. I guess it might be worth
uninstalling or resetting your Chrome and, if
you sync your Chrome with your google account,
not syncing it again until you've tried to reproduce the problem a bit.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General
Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make
Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 8/4/2019 7:33 PM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
So far nobody has been able to duplicate this
situation. I'm posting it here to see if anybody has suggestions.
While downloading using Chrome several weeks
ago, the application would finish downloading
and I could do a say line to hear the current
line but nothing else when I moved around.
I had to use task manager to close down Chrome.
It happened with all three screen readers on my
desktop, JAWS, NVDA andn Narrator.
I wrote to Google Disability thinking it was Chrome.
then with the next JAWS Private Beta build the
problem went away only to reappear about ten days ago.
I wasn't sure if it was indeed a screen reader
problem or something in a recent Google update.
this last Thursday with the newest Private
build of JAWS, the problem went away again.
the problem is that JAWS and Google updated
about the same time so I don't know if its
Google, a screen reader conflict or maybe both.
So far Google hasn't been able to come up with
a solution or even duplicate it.
And if JAWS, NVDA or Narrator are involved, where would I go from here?
Would the JAWS logs show FS anything?
Has anybody else experienced this?
I especially see it with BARD and other websites from which I download.
I'm using the latest JAWS private build and
Windows 10 update as well as Chrome Version
76.0.3809.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
I just tried an experiment and went into About
for Chrome and got an update this morning.
And with the latest Chrome build which just
updated as I wrote this message, I have another Chrome Crash.
When I go into task manager to get rid of
Chrome, I also see a message which says:
AdBlock has crashed. Click this balloon to reload the extension.
Sometimes its another app or extension that has
crashed so it is not always the same one.
I can use Chrome Canary and have never seen this crash happen.
Any ideas as to what is causing this and how to solve it?

John


John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification




JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


Well Done

Pastor Gil Pries
 

Well done John!

 

Pastor Gil


locked Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

David Ferrin
 

The problem is if 50 people or more for example post such a message it would create a lot of bandwidth usage that an already busy list does not need. I myself woke up to 86 emails in my inbox this morning that took quite some time to read over.

This is why we monitor so tightly and try to keep things flowing smoothly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

I just take this opportunity to congratulate you John for your award, of
which I heard this morning on FS's fscast. Apologies to our group for this
offtopic comment, but since it involves a member of our group, I just
thought it to be appropriate.
Take care,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of John Gassman
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

I'm using Malware Bites but so is my brother and
he's not having these problems.
I think I have Google Accessibility pulling out
all of their hair trying to solve this problem.
JohnAt 01:40 PM 8/5/2019, you wrote:
Hi.


I've had Chrome just disappear a time or two in
the past few months, but nothing directly
related to downloads. If this is only happening
when you download something, I wonder if what
ever Antimalware utility you use outside of
Chrome is causing this when it scans the file as
soon as Chrome unlocks it, or perhaps before
Chrome unlocks it, and that's stirring up
trouble somehow. I wish it wasn't that
intermittent. How are you going to know if what
changes you make is actually a fix? If you do
figure out how to crash it every time, maybe try
it once with external Antimalware disabled
temporarily to see if it still happens?


I'm running normal non development Chrome and I
do have Ad Block Plus installed in it. I also
have Chrome Sounds and a couple of other
extensions enabled. I guess it might be worth
uninstalling or resetting your Chrome and, if
you sync your Chrome with your google account,
not syncing it again until you've tried to reproduce the problem a bit.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General
Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make
Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 8/4/2019 7:33 PM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
So far nobody has been able to duplicate this
situation. I'm posting it here to see if anybody has suggestions.
While downloading using Chrome several weeks
ago, the application would finish downloading
and I could do a say line to hear the current
line but nothing else when I moved around.
I had to use task manager to close down Chrome.
It happened with all three screen readers on my
desktop, JAWS, NVDA andn Narrator.
I wrote to Google Disability thinking it was Chrome.
then with the next JAWS Private Beta build the
problem went away only to reappear about ten days ago.
I wasn't sure if it was indeed a screen reader
problem or something in a recent Google update.
this last Thursday with the newest Private
build of JAWS, the problem went away again.
the problem is that JAWS and Google updated
about the same time so I don't know if its
Google, a screen reader conflict or maybe both.
So far Google hasn't been able to come up with
a solution or even duplicate it.
And if JAWS, NVDA or Narrator are involved, where would I go from here?
Would the JAWS logs show FS anything?
Has anybody else experienced this?
I especially see it with BARD and other websites from which I download.
I'm using the latest JAWS private build and
Windows 10 update as well as Chrome Version
76.0.3809.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
I just tried an experiment and went into About
for Chrome and got an update this morning.
And with the latest Chrome build which just
updated as I wrote this message, I have another Chrome Crash.
When I go into task manager to get rid of
Chrome, I also see a message which says:
AdBlock has crashed. Click this balloon to reload the extension.
Sometimes its another app or extension that has
crashed so it is not always the same one.
I can use Chrome Canary and have never seen this crash happen.
Any ideas as to what is causing this and how to solve it?

John


John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification




JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


locked Re: congratulation to John a bit off topic [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

I just take this opportunity to congratulate you John for your award, of
which I heard this morning on FS's fscast. Apologies to our group for this
offtopic comment, but since it involves a member of our group, I just
thought it to be appropriate.
Take care,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of John Gassman
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Google Chrome crashes

I'm using Malware Bites but so is my brother and
he's not having these problems.
I think I have Google Accessibility pulling out
all of their hair trying to solve this problem.
JohnAt 01:40 PM 8/5/2019, you wrote:
Hi.


I've had Chrome just disappear a time or two in
the past few months, but nothing directly
related to downloads. If this is only happening
when you download something, I wonder if what
ever Antimalware utility you use outside of
Chrome is causing this when it scans the file as
soon as Chrome unlocks it, or perhaps before
Chrome unlocks it, and that's stirring up
trouble somehow. I wish it wasn't that
intermittent. How are you going to know if what
changes you make is actually a fix? If you do
figure out how to crash it every time, maybe try
it once with external Antimalware disabled
temporarily to see if it still happens?


I'm running normal non development Chrome and I
do have Ad Block Plus installed in it. I also
have Chrome Sounds and a couple of other
extensions enabled. I guess it might be worth
uninstalling or resetting your Chrome and, if
you sync your Chrome with your google account,
not syncing it again until you've tried to reproduce the problem a bit.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General
Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make
Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 8/4/2019 7:33 PM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
So far nobody has been able to duplicate this
situation. I'm posting it here to see if anybody has suggestions.
While downloading using Chrome several weeks
ago, the application would finish downloading
and I could do a say line to hear the current
line but nothing else when I moved around.
I had to use task manager to close down Chrome.
It happened with all three screen readers on my
desktop, JAWS, NVDA andn Narrator.
I wrote to Google Disability thinking it was Chrome.
then with the next JAWS Private Beta build the
problem went away only to reappear about ten days ago.
I wasn't sure if it was indeed a screen reader
problem or something in a recent Google update.
this last Thursday with the newest Private
build of JAWS, the problem went away again.
the problem is that JAWS and Google updated
about the same time so I don't know if its
Google, a screen reader conflict or maybe both.
So far Google hasn't been able to come up with
a solution or even duplicate it.
And if JAWS, NVDA or Narrator are involved, where would I go from here?
Would the JAWS logs show FS anything?
Has anybody else experienced this?
I especially see it with BARD and other websites from which I download.
I'm using the latest JAWS private build and
Windows 10 update as well as Chrome Version
76.0.3809.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
I just tried an experiment and went into About
for Chrome and got an update this morning.
And with the latest Chrome build which just
updated as I wrote this message, I have another Chrome Crash.
When I go into task manager to get rid of
Chrome, I also see a message which says:
AdBlock has crashed. Click this balloon to reload the extension.
Sometimes its another app or extension that has
crashed so it is not always the same one.
I can use Chrome Canary and have never seen this crash happen.
Any ideas as to what is causing this and how to solve it?

John


John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification




JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


JAWS update for July-August

John Gassman <johngassman@...>
 

Hi,
FSCast came out on Monday and updates for JAWS, Zoom-Text and Fusion are due out today. That usually means around 10 AM eastern time 7 Pacific.
Although it could be earlier so, monitor the FS Page.
John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


Re: Google Chrome crashes

John Gassman <johngassman@...>
 

I'm using Malware Bites but so is my brother and he's not having these problems.
I think I have Google Accessibility pulling out all of their hair trying to solve this problem.
JohnAt 01:40 PM 8/5/2019, you wrote:
Hi.


I've had Chrome just disappear a time or two in the past few months, but nothing directly related to downloads. If this is only happening when you download something, I wonder if what ever Antimalware utility you use outside of Chrome is causing this when it scans the file as soon as Chrome unlocks it, or perhaps before Chrome unlocks it, and that's stirring up trouble somehow. I wish it wasn't that intermittent. How are you going to know if what changes you make is actually a fix? If you do figure out how to crash it every time, maybe try it once with external Antimalware disabled temporarily to see if it still happens?


I'm running normal non development Chrome and I do have Ad Block Plus installed in it. I also have Chrome Sounds and a couple of other extensions enabled. I guess it might be worth uninstalling or resetting your Chrome and, if you sync your Chrome with your google account, not syncing it again until you've tried to reproduce the problem a bit.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 8/4/2019 7:33 PM, John Gassman wrote:
Hi,
So far nobody has been able to duplicate this situation. I'm posting it here to see if anybody has suggestions.
While downloading using Chrome several weeks ago, the application would finish downloading and I could do a say line to hear the current line but nothing else when I moved around.
I had to use task manager to close down Chrome.
It happened with all three screen readers on my desktop, JAWS, NVDA andn Narrator.
I wrote to Google Disability thinking it was Chrome.
then with the next JAWS Private Beta build the problem went away only to reappear about ten days ago.
I wasn't sure if it was indeed a screen reader problem or something in a recent Google update.
this last Thursday with the newest Private build of JAWS, the problem went away again.
the problem is that JAWS and Google updated about the same time so I don't know if its Google, a screen reader conflict or maybe both.
So far Google hasn't been able to come up with a solution or even duplicate it.
And if JAWS, NVDA or Narrator are involved, where would I go from here?
Would the JAWS logs show FS anything?
Has anybody else experienced this?
I especially see it with BARD and other websites from which I download.
I'm using the latest JAWS private build and Windows 10 update as well as Chrome Version 76.0.3809.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
I just tried an experiment and went into About for Chrome and got an update this morning.
And with the latest Chrome build which just updated as I wrote this message, I have another Chrome Crash.
When I go into task manager to get rid of Chrome, I also see a message which says:
AdBlock has crashed. Click this balloon to reload the extension.
Sometimes its another app or extension that has crashed so it is not always the same one.
I can use Chrome Canary and have never seen this crash happen.
Any ideas as to what is causing this and how to solve it?

John


John



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification



JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification




JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


Re: deleting e-mails from Gmail.

David Ferrin
 

Mike, you’re a genius or close enough for government work. I had this problem over a year ago with somebody and didn’t know how to fix it.
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] deleting e-mails from Gmail.
 
Hi Sherri,
 
I use the steps below to delete large numbers of email, but the steps below are for Basic HTML view and if you're using the Standard view I don't know
if they'll work.
 
From: Bill White
There is no "Select All" checkbox in basic html view in gmail. Here's what I
do to delete large numbers of messages in gmail.
 
How to create a filter in your gmail account which will delete large groups
of messages in your inbox.
 
1.  Sign into your gmail account using Internet Explorer.
 
2.  Press Insert+F7 to open the links list.
 
3.  Press the letter S until you hear Settings, then press Enter.
 
4.  Press Insert+F7 to open the links list again.
 
5.  Press the letter C until you hear Create a filter, and then press Enter.
 
6.  Press the letter F until you hear From: Edit.
 
7.  In this field, type *@*
 
8.  Press Tab until you hear: Next Step Button and press the space bar.
 
9.  When the next page loads, press the letter X until you hear: Delete it
Check Box Not Checked. Press the space bar to check this item.
 
10. Press the letter X until you hear: Also apply filter to 20 conversations
below Check Box Not Checked, and press the space bar to check this item.
 
11. Press Tab until you hear: Create Filter Button, and press the space bar.
Your filter should now be created.
 
12. After your filter is created, press Insert+F7, then the letter I to be
taken back to your inbox where you will see all of your messages still there
in your inbox.
 
13. Close Internet Explorer to exit out of the gmail web page.
 
14. Sign into your gmail account using Internet Explorer again.
 
15. Go to your inbox, where you should see that it is empty.
 
16. Press Insert+F7 to open the links list.
 
17. Press the letter S until you hear Settings, then press Enter.
 
18. Press F7 for the links list, then press the letter F until you hear
Filters, and press Enter.
 
19. Press the letter B until you hear: Delete It Button. Press the space
bar.
 
20. When the page loads, you will hear JAWS say:   Your filter has been
deleted.
 
21. Be sure to do steps 14 through 18, or all of your e-mail will continue
to be deleted and sent to the trash.
 
Bill White

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sherri
To: jaws-users-list@groups. io
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 4:29 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] deleting e-mails from Gmail.
 

I have a lot of trouble navigating the Google mail site with Jaws.  I am currently using Jaws 17, but I also have Jaws 2019 on my computer.  I am running Windows 7.

 

I am almost out of storage space and have lots of Gmail to get rid of.  Deleting it from Outlook doesn’t seem to affect the Gmail client itself.  How do I go about selecting and deleting large quantities of Gmail?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Sherri Brun

flmom2006@...

Board member, NFB of Central Florida

NFBF Newsline Marketer

Phone:  1-844-827-7371

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of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. 

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David Ferrin
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