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Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Hamit Campos
 

I have heard this. But keep in mind it's geeks that say this. Geeks that do rediculious tests that may not reflect the true punishment avrage Joe will give or in this case won't give the PC. Gamers are these people. Gamers do punish their PCs.

On 8/5/2019 1:56 PM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Gerald.

this is an issue that makes me leery about buying a computer with
an SSD.?? Because an SSD emits no noise like a mechanical hard drive, it
would be almost impossible to tell for sure that your Windows 10 PC has
shut down successfully because there is no shutdown sound like in
Windows 7. Sometimes, you might hear "JAWS for Windows" when the
shutdown has initiated, but there is no reliable way to tell whether it
has powered off unless it has a DVD drive on which you can simply press
the eject button to tell whether it is off.
Your computer is shutting down when speech disappears. You can also pay attention to the sound of its fan. When the fan stops blowing, your system has shut down entirely.

Also, I have read that although a solid state drive may be more
reliable as a mechanical hard
drive, it may not last as long because its memory cells tend to wear out
over time and eventually become unusable with repeated write
cycles.?? Is
this true?
I've never heard this.. Both my solid state drives have lasted three years so far.

Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090
Email: ofiol@...

Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

Hi Gerald.

this is an issue that makes me leery about buying a computer with
an SSD.?? Because an SSD emits no noise like a mechanical hard drive, it
would be almost impossible to tell for sure that your Windows 10 PC has
shut down successfully because there is no shutdown sound like in
Windows 7. Sometimes, you might hear "JAWS for Windows" when the
shutdown has initiated, but there is no reliable way to tell whether it
has powered off unless it has a DVD drive on which you can simply press
the eject button to tell whether it is off.
Your computer is shutting down when speech disappears. You can also pay attention to the sound of its fan. When the fan stops blowing, your system has shut down entirely.

Also, I have read that although a solid state drive may be more
reliable as a mechanical hard
drive, it may not last as long because its memory cells tend to wear out
over time and eventually become unusable with repeated write cycles.?? Is
this true?
I've never heard this.. Both my solid state drives have lasted three years so far.

Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090
Email: ofiol@...

Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Hamit Campos
 

Yeah the write thing only matters if you write lots of stuff to the drive. So most gamer laptops at least only use the SSD as a boot drive. Desktops like the special XPS's from Dell do this as well. This maybe a problem with the real cheep 300 and $200 laptops that only have that SSD.

On 8/5/2019 1:46 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gerald,
I think that the write cycles depend on how the computer is used.
I almost never reboot my computers, they run 24/7 and this would be better for an SSD, because the Swap file is not rewritten over and over as it is every time you do a complete shut down and start up.
I think leaving the computer running is better for mechanical hard drives too.
Glenn

 
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop


Yeah, this is an issue that makes me leery about buying a computer with an SSD.?? Because an SSD emits no noise like a mechanical hard drive, it would be almost impossible to tell for sure that your Windows 10 PC has shut down successfully because there is no shutdown sound like in Windows 7.?? Sometimes, you might hear "JAWS for Windows" when the shutdown has initiated, but there is no reliable way to tell whether it has powered off unless it has a DVD drive on which you can simply press the eject button to tell whether it is off.?? Also, I have read that although a solid state drive may be more reliable as a mechanical hard drive, it may not last as long because its memory cells tend to wear out over time and eventually become unusable with repeated write cycles.?? Is this true?


Gerald



On 8/5/2019 12:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I like that the solid state drives are faster and more reliable, but I don't like that you can't hear them booting up.
Often you are wondering what the computer is doing, if it is booting up, and you can't tell non-visually with solid state drives.
But again, this is a factor that has no bearing on Jaws.??
I do care about the audio on some laptops, some laptops, sold as business models, at least in the past, have had terrible sound.
But now that we use laptops in the business world for things like Power Point and the like, perhaps poor quality??audio is becoming more of a rarity in laptops.
This is something you might find out about by reading reviews on models on-line, before you decide.
Glenn

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

The solid state drives are wonderful. My new dell desktop has one, as does my slightly older Dell laptop. I???d never purchase another computer without one.

??

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: August 5, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

??

List, my Toshiba laptop is in need of replacement.

Have any of you on the list recently purchased a new 15.6 inch screen laptop computer that works well with jaws?

I would like another laptop that has a built in keypad.

Also, has jaws worked well with the new solid state drives?

Thanks for any help.

Like many of us using jaws and access technology for the last 28 years, can remember in the past being sure we got a laptop with the right kind of video card and audio card.?? That said my current Toshiba was bought off Amazon with standard video and audio card.

Again, thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

John in sunny southwest Florida

Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Gerald,
I think that the write cycles depend on how the computer is used.
I almost never reboot my computers, they run 24/7 and this would be better for an SSD, because the Swap file is not rewritten over and over as it is every time you do a complete shut down and start up.
I think leaving the computer running is better for mechanical hard drives too.
Glenn

 

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop


Yeah, this is an issue that makes me leery about buying a computer with an SSD.?? Because an SSD emits no noise like a mechanical hard drive, it would be almost impossible to tell for sure that your Windows 10 PC has shut down successfully because there is no shutdown sound like in Windows 7.?? Sometimes, you might hear "JAWS for Windows" when the shutdown has initiated, but there is no reliable way to tell whether it has powered off unless it has a DVD drive on which you can simply press the eject button to tell whether it is off.?? Also, I have read that although a solid state drive may be more reliable as a mechanical hard drive, it may not last as long because its memory cells tend to wear out over time and eventually become unusable with repeated write cycles.?? Is this true?


Gerald



On 8/5/2019 12:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I like that the solid state drives are faster and more reliable, but I don't like that you can't hear them booting up.
Often you are wondering what the computer is doing, if it is booting up, and you can't tell non-visually with solid state drives.
But again, this is a factor that has no bearing on Jaws.??
I do care about the audio on some laptops, some laptops, sold as business models, at least in the past, have had terrible sound.
But now that we use laptops in the business world for things like Power Point and the like, perhaps poor quality??audio is becoming more of a rarity in laptops.
This is something you might find out about by reading reviews on models on-line, before you decide.
Glenn

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

The solid state drives are wonderful. My new dell desktop has one, as does my slightly older Dell laptop. I???d never purchase another computer without one.

??

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: August 5, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

??

List, my Toshiba laptop is in need of replacement.

Have any of you on the list recently purchased a new 15.6 inch screen laptop computer that works well with jaws?

I would like another laptop that has a built in keypad.

Also, has jaws worked well with the new solid state drives?

Thanks for any help.

Like many of us using jaws and access technology for the last 28 years, can remember in the past being sure we got a laptop with the right kind of video card and audio card.?? That said my current Toshiba was bought off Amazon with standard video and audio card.

Again, thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

John in sunny southwest Florida

Re: Has anyone tried the app mentioned?FW: a couple of information requests

Judy Jones
 

True, I hadn’t heard of this one before and was just curious.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Has anyone tried the app mentioned?FW: a couple of information requests

 

Hi Judy,

This might be interesting however, there are some free open source options too, like Libre Office  and Open Office.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

 

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 12:24 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Has anyone tried the app mentioned?FW: a couple of information requests

 

Sounds very interesting.

Here is the snippet from an e-mail I received this morning.

Quote

Speeking of word processors,
2 weeks  ago I've stumbled on an app in the Microsoft app store its called:
"Ultra word editor"
it was on sale for $5. it said:
Original price was $29.99, current price $4.9983% off • 4 days left
The app page has stated that
Quote
Accessibility
The product developer believes this product meets accessibility
requirements, making it easier for everyone to use.
End of quote
I've grabbed it, it looks like its a fork
 of open office, but to my surprise its indeed accessible for all the
work I've done on it so far and its snappy as I liked.
I haven't used it heavily to give a fair compare with MS office, but
sure enough it worth every penny.
BTW, its an app for windows10, not sure about windows8.
URL to the app on MS app store
plus the same page contains a bunch of paid apps on sale or gone free:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/ultra-word-editor/9nrw09w7nqjn?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

End Quote

Judy
“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”
 



Re: Has anyone tried the app mentioned?FW: a couple of information requests

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Judy,
This might be interesting however, there are some free open source options too, like Libre Office  and Open Office.
Thanks.
Glenn
 

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 12:24 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Has anyone tried the app mentioned?FW: a couple of information requests

Sounds very interesting.

Here is the snippet from an e-mail I received this morning.

Quote

Speeking of word processors,
2 weeks  ago I've stumbled on an app in the Microsoft app store its called:
"Ultra word editor"
it was on sale for $5. it said:
Original price was $29.99, current price $4.9983% off • 4 days left
The app page has stated that
Quote
Accessibility
The product developer believes this product meets accessibility
requirements, making it easier for everyone to use.
End of quote
I've grabbed it, it looks like its a fork
 of open office, but to my surprise its indeed accessible for all the
work I've done on it so far and its snappy as I liked.
I haven't used it heavily to give a fair compare with MS office, but
sure enough it worth every penny.
BTW, its an app for windows10, not sure about windows8.
URL to the app on MS app store
plus the same page contains a bunch of paid apps on sale or gone free:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/ultra-word-editor/9nrw09w7nqjn?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

End Quote

Judy
“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”
 




Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Gerald Levy
 


Yeah, this is an issue that makes me leery about buying a computer with an SSD.?? Because an SSD emits no noise like a mechanical hard drive, it would be almost impossible to tell for sure that your Windows 10 PC has shut down successfully because there is no shutdown sound like in Windows 7.?? Sometimes, you might hear "JAWS for Windows" when the shutdown has initiated, but there is no reliable way to tell whether it has powered off unless it has a DVD drive on which you can simply press the eject button to tell whether it is off.?? Also, I have read that although a solid state drive may be more reliable as a mechanical hard drive, it may not last as long because its memory cells tend to wear out over time and eventually become unusable with repeated write cycles.?? Is this true?


Gerald



On 8/5/2019 12:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I like that the solid state drives are faster and more reliable, but I don't like that you can't hear them booting up.
Often you are wondering what the computer is doing, if it is booting up, and you can't tell non-visually with solid state drives.
But again, this is a factor that has no bearing on Jaws.??
I do care about the audio on some laptops, some laptops, sold as business models, at least in the past, have had terrible sound.
But now that we use laptops in the business world for things like Power Point and the like, perhaps poor quality??audio is becoming more of a rarity in laptops.
This is something you might find out about by reading reviews on models on-line, before you decide.
Glenn

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

The solid state drives are wonderful. My new dell desktop has one, as does my slightly older Dell laptop. I???d never purchase another computer without one.

??

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: August 5, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

??

List, my Toshiba laptop is in need of replacement.

Have any of you on the list recently purchased a new 15.6 inch screen laptop computer that works well with jaws?

I would like another laptop that has a built in keypad.

Also, has jaws worked well with the new solid state drives?

Thanks for any help.

Like many of us using jaws and access technology for the last 28 years, can remember in the past being sure we got a laptop with the right kind of video card and audio card.?? That said my current Toshiba was bought off Amazon with standard video and audio card.

Again, thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

John in sunny southwest Florida

Has anyone tried the app mentioned?FW: a couple of information requests

Judy Jones
 

Sounds very interesting.

Here is the snippet from an e-mail I received this morning.

Quote

Speeking of word processors,
2 weeks ago I've stumbled on an app in the Microsoft app store its called:
"Ultra word editor"
it was on sale for $5. it said:
Original price was $29.99, current price $4.9983% off • 4 days left
The app page has stated that
Quote
Accessibility
The product developer believes this product meets accessibility
requirements, making it easier for everyone to use.
End of quote
I've grabbed it, it looks like its a fork
of open office, but to my surprise its indeed accessible for all the
work I've done on it so far and its snappy as I liked.
I haven't used it heavily to give a fair compare with MS office, but
sure enough it worth every penny.
BTW, its an app for windows10, not sure about windows8.
URL to the app on MS app store
plus the same page contains a bunch of paid apps on sale or gone free:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/ultra-word-editor/9nrw09w7nqjn?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

End Quote

Judy
“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

Re: jaws with decTalk access32 and speak-windows?

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

what would be best is if CodeFactory sold a sapi5 version of decTalk access-32, using decTalk 4.3 or 4.2 software since that decTalk version is the best. 

Re: Winamp and Windows 1903

JM Casey
 

Yes.

A quick way to run as admin without going through the context menu is to hit ctrl-shift-enter on the item, instead of just enter. As soon as you do that, the user account box should pop up.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 5, 2019 12:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Winamp and Windows 1903

 

That is a point for everyone to consider.

When installing anything, don't just press enter on the executable, use the applications key and enter on "run as administrator".

This is a habit I have only started doing the past couple years.

Glenn

 

 

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:04 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Winamp and Windows 1903

 

Thanks for everyone’s help. It is running fine now. It seems to take a bit longer to load for some reason. I do have a large library and 16gb of RAM. Perhaps I didn’t need to go through all that. Running the installer as administrator helped greatly. I’ve never had to do that before.

Re: pdf accessibility

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Justin,
It will depend on which program you read them in.
I typically convert my PDF files and read them in Notepad or Word.
Then you just search normally.
Perhaps what you are wondering is how to open a PDF in something like Adobe DC and navigate through the document.
I recall a day when PDF files were difficult in Adobe, but seems to me that now there are keyboard commands for things like find and general navigation, and hopefully someone here knows some keystrokes.
Have you tried insert + H in the program to get some keyboard commands?
HTH.
Glenn
 

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] pdf accessibility

Using the find feature, and getting to where you want to in the document.

 

Being able to find chapters.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] pdf accessibility

 

By accessible, do you mean just reading, or filling out a form?

For reading, you can open it in Open Book, or another OCR program, or you can open most with Acrobat DC, or Chrome and I think FireFox can read them.

You can use Jaws convenient OCR on it.

You can do that with the applications key.

Or you can use insert + space bar, and I think S is the key and P I think for page.

Glenn

 

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 9:20 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] pdf accessibility

 

How do I get a pdf to be accessible?

 

I have several, and while I've seen processes for it, I'm going ot have to get this done?

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

 

 

Re: Winamp and Windows 1903

JM Casey
 

HI.

 

Glad you got it working.

 

16 GB of ram is very nice. I’m thinking of upgrading just for the hell of it, although nothing’s sped my computer up more than finally getting a solid state drive.

 

In order to make changes to the program files directories on your system, I think you need administrator rights in windows 10. If you don’t do this, the programme will install in your user folder. Some features may not work correctly.

 

Re winamp load times, I found that a few of the plugins no longer work. These are plugins that are a part of Winamp on instalation. But you can disable and remove them. I don’t’ remember exactly what I did, other than get rid of the Gracenote/CDDB plugin, but I swear there were one or two others, too. Anyway, for a while there Winamp was taking up to a minute to load for some reason, but doing this seemed to fix the problem. I can’t tell you exactly which plugins to remove though, as, well, they’re now gone on my system. :P

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: August 5, 2019 12:05 PM
To: List Jaws <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Winamp and Windows 1903

 

Thanks for everyone’s help. It is running fine now. It seems to take a bit longer to load for some reason. I do have a large library and 16gb of RAM. Perhaps I didn’t need to go through all that. Running the installer as administrator helped greatly. I’ve never had to do that before.

Re: pdf accessibility

Justin Williams
 

Using the find feature, and getting to where you want to in the document.

 

Being able to find chapters.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] pdf accessibility

 

By accessible, do you mean just reading, or filling out a form?

For reading, you can open it in Open Book, or another OCR program, or you can open most with Acrobat DC, or Chrome and I think FireFox can read them.

You can use Jaws convenient OCR on it.

You can do that with the applications key.

Or you can use insert + space bar, and I think S is the key and P I think for page.

Glenn

 

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 9:20 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] pdf accessibility

 

How do I get a pdf to be accessible?

 

I have several, and while I've seen processes for it, I'm going ot have to get this done?

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

 

 

Re: PDF Open parent document

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

Larry,

Yes, I mean add-ons.  You need to select the list all add-ons to see the Adobe add-on.  As I recall it is necessary to actually use the space bar on this selection to bring up the full list.  The list of add-ons should be around 25 or so if they are all listed.

  • Hth ---

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] PDF Open parent document

 

Do you mean manage add-ons, because I can’t find add-ins. Also, under my add-ons there is no add-on for Adobe.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: August 5, 2019 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] PDF Open parent document

 

This message is caused in IE 11 by the Adobe Add-in being enabled causing IE to try to open the document in the web page.  You can stop this and get the document opened in Adobe reader by going to Internet Options, Programs Tab, and then list all add-in programs.  Disable the Adobe add-in and the document will open correctly.  This used to be taken care of by the Accessibility Wizard in Adobe reader, but for whatever reason they discontinued asking this question and you now must take care of it yourself.

  • Hth ---

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] PDF Open parent document

 

I got that same message yesterday with IE and with Chrome. But with Chrome I was able to continue to arrow down and read the PDF. It would be good to know what this message is and how to resolve it.

 

Larry

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of John Skyner
Sent: August 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] PDF Open parent document

 

Hi all,

 

When clicking on a link within a web page to go to a pdf document I am given the option to select a button “open parent document”,  this is my only option and after selecting I still cannot read the pdf document.

Any help would be appreciated.

Running Windows 10, latest Jaws I e and chrome.

 

Thanks

 

John

Re: Winamp and Windows 1903

Glenn / Lenny
 

That is a point for everyone to consider.
When installing anything, don't just press enter on the executable, use the applications key and enter on "run as administrator".
This is a habit I have only started doing the past couple years.
Glenn
 

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:04 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Winamp and Windows 1903

Thanks for everyone’s help. It is running fine now. It seems to take a bit longer to load for some reason. I do have a large library and 16gb of RAM. Perhaps I didn’t need to go through all that. Running the installer as administrator helped greatly. I’ve never had to do that before.

Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Glenn / Lenny
 

Good point.
Which reminds me, I would also look for the ability to turn off the monitor, not all laptops do that.
 
Glenn
 

From: netbat66
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

one thing to watch out for with some computers is you can not turn off the
number pad because they do not have a number lock key. which most screen
readers need before they can use the keys for there mouse functions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop


John,
I really don't think any of the variables you are considering will be of
concern.
Jaws will work on pretty much computer running Windows.
The thing for you to be concerned about is the form factor of the computer and
if you are comfortable with it.
Glenn

From: John R Vaughn
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop


List, my Toshiba laptop is in need of replacement.

Have any of you on the list recently purchased a new 15.6 inch screen laptop
computer that works well with jaws?

I would like another laptop that has a built in keypad.

Also, has jaws worked well with the new solid state drives?

Thanks for any help.

Like many of us using jaws and access technology for the last 28 years, can
remember in the past being sure we got a laptop with the right kind of video
card and audio card.  That said my current Toshiba was bought off Amazon with
standard video and audio card.

Again, thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

John in sunny southwest Florida

 



Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Judy Jones
 

My husband remembers the day I couldn’t stand Vista when it first came out, but I only remember really liking it over all.  I had Windows 7 at work.  I really never liked Windows 8, but 10 is much better.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 8:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

 

I hade a Toshiba with Vista Ultimate. I loved it. I loved Vista. It was cool.

On 8/5/2019 11:40 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

I’m a Toshiba fan, so would probably stick with that one just because.  I’ave had one since 2007.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 8:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

 

List, my Toshiba laptop is in need of replacement.

Have any of you on the list recently purchased a new 15.6 inch screen laptop computer that works well with jaws?

I would like another laptop that has a built in keypad.

Also, has jaws worked well with the new solid state drives?

Thanks for any help.

Like many of us using jaws and access technology for the last 28 years, can remember in the past being sure we got a laptop with the right kind of video card and audio card.  That said my current Toshiba was bought off Amazon with standard video and audio card.

Again, thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

John in sunny southwest Florida

 

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Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Glenn / Lenny
 

I like that the solid state drives are faster and more reliable, but I don't like that you can't hear them booting up.
Often you are wondering what the computer is doing, if it is booting up, and you can't tell non-visually with solid state drives.
But again, this is a factor that has no bearing on Jaws. 
I do care about the audio on some laptops, some laptops, sold as business models, at least in the past, have had terrible sound.
But now that we use laptops in the business world for things like Power Point and the like, perhaps poor quality audio is becoming more of a rarity in laptops.
This is something you might find out about by reading reviews on models on-line, before you decide.
Glenn

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

The solid state drives are wonderful. My new dell desktop has one, as does my slightly older Dell laptop. I’d never purchase another computer without one.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: August 5, 2019 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

 

List, my Toshiba laptop is in need of replacement.

Have any of you on the list recently purchased a new 15.6 inch screen laptop computer that works well with jaws?

I would like another laptop that has a built in keypad.

Also, has jaws worked well with the new solid state drives?

Thanks for any help.

Like many of us using jaws and access technology for the last 28 years, can remember in the past being sure we got a laptop with the right kind of video card and audio card.  That said my current Toshiba was bought off Amazon with standard video and audio card.

Again, thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

John in sunny southwest Florida

Re: Jaws friendly laptop

Judy Jones
 

My first laptop didn’t have a num pad, which in retrospect was probably a good thing, because it mae me learn the alternative Jaws commands.  I found that I really liked that setup better than the traditional keyboard.

 

Once I went back to the keyboards with num pads, I still kept the laptop layout since I liked it so much.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 8:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

 

Well the layout of the keys can differ. As for the keypad thing. Only once and that's on my Dell Enspiron 3840 desktop have I run into the issue of not being able to use the num pad as is for JAWS. It doesn't even have the on and off key. But than again it is a business config.

On 8/5/2019 11:30 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

John,

I really don't think any of the variables you are considering will be of concern.

Jaws will work on pretty much computer running Windows.

The thing for you to be concerned about is the form factor of the computer and if you are comfortable with it.

Glenn

 

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 10:10 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws friendly laptop

 

List, my Toshiba laptop is in need of replacement.

Have any of you on the list recently purchased a new 15.6 inch screen laptop computer that works well with jaws?

I would like another laptop that has a built in keypad.

Also, has jaws worked well with the new solid state drives?

Thanks for any help.

Like many of us using jaws and access technology for the last 28 years, can remember in the past being sure we got a laptop with the right kind of video card and audio card.  That said my current Toshiba was bought off Amazon with standard video and audio card.

Again, thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

John in sunny southwest Florida

 

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a vocalizer voices question

Casey
 

Hi I know that there is A Nathan voice for the English vocalizer voices but I have heard talk about A voice named Evin So is this true and if so how is it for reading and using for everyday speach on your computer?

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Casey