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external number pad

deirdre nyberg
 

recommendations for an external number pad (either wired or bluetooth) that is compatible with JAWS? my student has a surface pro and the external number pad we bought to provide the insert/home keys etc does not work...running Windows 10
thanks!


Re: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar

Cook, Steve
 

Above the 8 on the num pad

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-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Onwardbob via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 10:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar

Mike I know where the "slash" is, but where is the "NUM PAD SLASH"

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar

Hi Richard,

Other than deleting them all and pasting them in the order you want the only way I've found is using Drag and Drop. 2 different ways of dragging and dropping are below.

Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to the position of the active cursor.


From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:13 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar


Is there a way to check and perhaps rearrange the order of things that are pinned to the task bar?



Richard





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Re: Tabs on web Pages

Don Raikes
 

Hi,

Typically when I encounter tabs on a web page, I press enter to activate the tab then enter again to exit forms mode then I can tab into the open tab.

 

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Thanks, Donald

Accessibility, like security, is better when built-in from the beginning rather than bolted on at the end.


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From: CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 1:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

What is the PC curser key please?

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 09 July 2019 00:45
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Hi Andy,
 
When I press enter on a Tab I get the same sound as I get when I open an edit field, so I press the PC cursor key to close the so called edit field and
then I can arrow or tab through the options.  You can also try a left mouse click on the tabs.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 4:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

I am noticing that more and more web pages are using tabs on the page to organize their content. For example, a restaurant menu web page may have tabs for breakfast, lunch items, etc.  When I hit ENTER or the spacebar to access a tab, I find that i can't read any of the items within the tab, or navigate within the tab.  What keystrokes do I need to use to work with these tabs?

 

Andy

 


Re: Pinning to the task bar

Onwardbob
 

Mike I know where the "slash" is, but where is the "NUM PAD SLASH"

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar

Hi Richard,

Other than deleting them all and pasting them in the order you want the
only way I've found is using Drag and Drop. 2 different ways of dragging
and dropping are below.

Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.


From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program
to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words,
stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that
somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:13 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar


Is there a way to check and perhaps rearrange the order of things that are
pinned to the task bar?



Richard





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flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


Re: Pinning to the task bar

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 


Thank you Michael and Mike.
That's what I needed to know.
I took Edge and Mail out of the taskbar since I never use Windows Mail and seldom use Edge, so now it has my most used applications which will do until FS fixes Jaws 2019 so it stops blocking my other hotkeys.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

On Jul 22, 2019, at 6:38 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,
 
Other than deleting them all and pasting them in the order you want  the only way I've found is using Drag and Drop.  2 different ways of dragging and dropping are below.
 
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
 
 
From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the program
to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other words,
stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:13 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar

Is there a way to check and perhaps rearrange the order of things that are pinned to the task bar?

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


Re: Pinning to the task bar

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Richard,
 
Other than deleting them all and pasting them in the order you want  the only way I've found is using Drag and Drop.  2 different ways of dragging and dropping are below.
 
Use the key strokes, (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
CTRL+INSERT+NUM
PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC
Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the
item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item will be moved to
the position of the active cursor.
 
 
From: David Bailes
Hi,
you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the program
to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other words,
stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.
David.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:13 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar

Is there a way to check and perhaps rearrange the order of things that are pinned to the task bar?

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


Re: Pinning to the task bar

Alan Robbins <arobbin2@...>
 

Last I knew, and that was a couple of Win 10 versions ago, only way to rearrange was to unpin then pin in order one wanted them to appear.

 

Al

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 9:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Pinning to the task bar

 

tapping the applications key on an icon within the start menu should present you with an option to pin an icon to the taskbar.

 

Then, leveraging your Windows key +1-0, dependent on the location of the icon within the taskbar, will allow you to quickly launch that icon.

 

Tapping Windows key plus the letter t, will let you quickly cycle through the icons on your taskbar, to determine what order they are in for using the previously mentioned key stroke.

 

I would love information about reorganizing icons in the taskbar, to allow me to be more efficient.

 

Hope you're well

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



On Jul 22, 2019 at 6:13 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Is there a way to check and perhaps rearrange the order of things that are pinned to the task bar?

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


Re: Pinning to the task bar

Michael Babcock <michael@...>
 

tapping the applications key on an icon within the start menu should present you with an option to pin an icon to the taskbar.

Then, leveraging your Windows key +1-0, dependent on the location of the icon within the taskbar, will allow you to quickly launch that icon.

Tapping Windows key plus the letter t, will let you quickly cycle through the icons on your taskbar, to determine what order they are in for using the previously mentioned key stroke.

I would love information about reorganizing icons in the taskbar, to allow me to be more efficient.

Hope you're well






























On Jul 22, 2019 at 6:13 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Is there a way to check and perhaps rearrange the order of things that are pinned to the task bar?

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


Pinning to the task bar

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Is there a way to check and perhaps rearrange the order of things that are pinned to the task bar?

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 


Re: Tabs on web Pages

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Alison.

 

Terminology can be confusing. On this list, when people refer to the “JAWS key,” they’re typically using shorthand for the insert key on the desktop layout and the caps lock on the laptop layout. I think you’re asking here about the JAWS cursor key, the one above the PC cursor key that Justin explained.

 

The JAWS cursor sometimes enables you to read parts of the screen that you can’t access in the normal PC cursor mode. As listers have been saying more often lately, it doesn’t help as often as it used to, but sometimes it still can. If you find yourself wondering about a particular webpage or screen, press the JAWS cursor key, then press control-home to go to the top of the screen, then press “say all.” See if JAWS picks up any additional information. To bring back the PC cursor, just press that PC cursor key.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Many thanks for this. Another ask! I see the example of accessing tabs, but when else might one find the Jaws key useful?

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: 22 July 2019 10:41
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Put your hand on the top right of your numpad. 

 

the first button is the jaws cursor. 

 

The second button, one below that, is about twice as long.  That, is your PC key.

 

Justin

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

What is the PC curser key please?

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 09 July 2019 00:45
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Hi Andy,
 
When I press enter on a Tab I get the same sound as I get when I open an edit field, so I press the PC cursor key to close the so called edit field and
then I can arrow or tab through the options.  You can also try a left mouse click on the tabs.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 4:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

I am noticing that more and more web pages are using tabs on the page to organize their content. For example, a restaurant menu web page may have tabs for breakfast, lunch items, etc.  When I hit ENTER or the spacebar to access a tab, I find that i can't read any of the items within the tab, or navigate within the tab.  What keystrokes do I need to use to work with these tabs?

 

Andy

 


Re: Tabs on web Pages

CJ &AA MAY
 

Many thanks for this. Another ask! I see the example of accessing tabs, but when else might one find the Jaws key useful?

Alison

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: 22 July 2019 10:41
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Put your hand on the top right of your numpad. 

 

the first button is the jaws cursor. 

 

The second button, one below that, is about twice as long.  That, is your PC key.

 

Justin

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

What is the PC curser key please?

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 09 July 2019 00:45
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Hi Andy,
 
When I press enter on a Tab I get the same sound as I get when I open an edit field, so I press the PC cursor key to close the so called edit field and
then I can arrow or tab through the options.  You can also try a left mouse click on the tabs.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 4:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

I am noticing that more and more web pages are using tabs on the page to organize their content. For example, a restaurant menu web page may have tabs for breakfast, lunch items, etc.  When I hit ENTER or the spacebar to access a tab, I find that i can't read any of the items within the tab, or navigate within the tab.  What keystrokes do I need to use to work with these tabs?

 

Andy

 


Re: Tabs on web Pages

Justin Williams
 

Put your hand on the top right of your numpad. 

 

the first button is the jaws cursor. 

 

The second button, one below that, is about twice as long.  That, is your PC key.

 

Justin

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

What is the PC curser key please?

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 09 July 2019 00:45
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Hi Andy,
 
When I press enter on a Tab I get the same sound as I get when I open an edit field, so I press the PC cursor key to close the so called edit field and
then I can arrow or tab through the options.  You can also try a left mouse click on the tabs.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 4:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

I am noticing that more and more web pages are using tabs on the page to organize their content. For example, a restaurant menu web page may have tabs for breakfast, lunch items, etc.  When I hit ENTER or the spacebar to access a tab, I find that i can't read any of the items within the tab, or navigate within the tab.  What keystrokes do I need to use to work with these tabs?

 

Andy

 


Re: Tabs on web Pages

CJ &AA MAY
 

What is the PC curser key please?

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 09 July 2019 00:45
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

Hi Andy,
 
When I press enter on a Tab I get the same sound as I get when I open an edit field, so I press the PC cursor key to close the so called edit field and
then I can arrow or tab through the options.  You can also try a left mouse click on the tabs.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 4:09 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Tabs on web Pages

 

I am noticing that more and more web pages are using tabs on the page to organize their content. For example, a restaurant menu web page may have tabs for breakfast, lunch items, etc.  When I hit ENTER or the spacebar to access a tab, I find that i can't read any of the items within the tab, or navigate within the tab.  What keystrokes do I need to use to work with these tabs?

 

Andy

 


Re: Outlook list boxes not read by Jaws.

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Thank you Richard.  As it happened, this is now fixed.  The list was Minimized.  I know those keystrokes so am very surprised it happened, but glad it is solved.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Outlook list boxes not read by Jaws.

 

First,

Reboot your computer.

If that doesn’t clear it up, then make sure the preview pane didn’t get turned on.

If that doesn’t help, I’d suggest a call to Microsoft Accessibility since you didn’t do anything out of the ordinary.  An update may have happened or an accidental key press that changed something.

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Outlook list boxes not read by Jaws.

 

Hi, All,

 

In all my years on the PC and since Jaws 3.0, I have never seen this behavior.

 

My inbox list of messages is invisible to Jaws, although Jaws works when opening a message.  But Jaws will not read the message list as I arrow up and down.  NVDA has no problem with this, and I am having no problems composing a new message with Jaws.

 

This is not only true of the inbox, but the other boxes in my Outlook program.  I am using Windows 10, Jaws 19 and Outlook 10.

 

This just started a few minutes ago, and I haven’t been doing anything out of the ordinary with my PC.

 

Any ideas?  Thanks.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 


Re: Outlook list boxes not read by Jaws.

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

First,

Reboot your computer.

If that doesn’t clear it up, then make sure the preview pane didn’t get turned on.

If that doesn’t help, I’d suggest a call to Microsoft Accessibility since you didn’t do anything out of the ordinary.  An update may have happened or an accidental key press that changed something.

 

Richard

 

 

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Outlook list boxes not read by Jaws.

 

Hi, All,

 

In all my years on the PC and since Jaws 3.0, I have never seen this behavior.

 

My inbox list of messages is invisible to Jaws, although Jaws works when opening a message.  But Jaws will not read the message list as I arrow up and down.  NVDA has no problem with this, and I am having no problems composing a new message with Jaws.

 

This is not only true of the inbox, but the other boxes in my Outlook program.  I am using Windows 10, Jaws 19 and Outlook 10.

 

This just started a few minutes ago, and I haven’t been doing anything out of the ordinary with my PC.

 

Any ideas?  Thanks.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 


Outlook list boxes not read by Jaws.

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Hi, All,

 

In all my years on the PC and since Jaws 3.0, I have never seen this behavior.

 

My inbox list of messages is invisible to Jaws, although Jaws works when opening a message.  But Jaws will not read the message list as I arrow up and down.  NVDA has no problem with this, and I am having no problems composing a new message with Jaws.

 

This is not only true of the inbox, but the other boxes in my Outlook program.  I am using Windows 10, Jaws 19 and Outlook 10.

 

This just started a few minutes ago, and I haven’t been doing anything out of the ordinary with my PC.

 

Any ideas?  Thanks.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Putting graphics in a document using Jaws

Brian Lee
 

Hello Teri,

 

I am not sure when I sent the message that Mike showed in his Email but I have revised the note a little.  In Word 2013 I have noticed that the layout pane doesn’t always appear when the object is selected.  However, you can just bring up the contextual menu by using the applications key or Shift with function key 10 and arrow down to the Size menu item.  Press enter on the item and the same dialog box appears that would appear if you used the See More button in the layout pane.  After pressing the CTRL with Shift and O to move to the object use enter to select it.  Be careful not to use an arrow key before or after using the enter key as that will remove the selection from the object. 

 

Here are revised steps that work in Word 2013: 

 

1.     In Word, place the cursor where you want to insert the graphic. 

2.     Use Alt followed by N followed by P for choosing a picture to insert.

3.     Browse to the PNG or other type of picture file and insert it.
JAWS recognizes the inserted picture as an object. 

4.     Use CTRL with shift and O to move to the object.

5.      Immediately press enter key to select the object. 
JAWS should speak the height and width of the picture  and indicate that it is selected at this point.  The layout options pane might appear and if it does and focus moves into it tab to the “See more” button and press spacebar.  It might come up and have keyboard focus right on the "See more" button or you might
have to use F6 until focus is in the pane. 
Note:  If the layout pane doesn’t appear when the graphic is selected then use the info starting in step 8 below.   

6.      Press spacebar on the "See more" button.
There will be three page tabs in the resulting dialog box.  Go to the Size page.

7.      You can tab across to confirm absolute height and width. The aspect ratio will likely be locked and be relative to the original
picture size.  As you tab you should find a rotation box and it is likely on
zero degrees.  There are also two boxes for adjusting height and width, which will  only
work if you uncheck the aspect ratio checkbox. If you do uncheck that
checkbox and adjust height and width percentages then JAWS will speak the new dimensions in the document when you use CTRL with shift and O and then press enter key to select
the object.

8.       If the layout options pane does not appear when the graphic is selected just use the applications key or shift with function key 10.  In the contextual menu use down arrow key until you find the Size menu item and press enter key.  This will bring up the same dialog box that would appear  if you used the “See More” button in the layout pane. 

9.       Go to the size page of the dialog box and do the same actions mentioned in step 7 above.      

 

The original info was sent as a response to someone wanting to know about inserting a picture and sizing it.  The Picture Tools Format tab is added to the end of the ribbon when a picture is selected.  When using JAWS, it appears after you list objects using CTRL with Shift and O and press enter key on one of the items in the list to select it.  The picture tools include many options including the sizing of the objects mentioned in the above steps. 

 

Take care.

 

Brian Lee

brianllee@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: July 21, 2019 10:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Putting graphics in a document using Jaws

 

Hi Teri,

 

Below is a note I saved, but personally I've never done this.

 

From: Brian Lee
In Word, place the cursor where you want to insert the logo. 
Use Alt followed by N followed by P for choosing a picture to insert.
Browse to the PNG file and insert it.
JAWS recognizes the inserted picture as an object. 
Use CTRL with shift and O to select the picture.
JAWS should speak the height and width of the picture at this point.
Press enter key.
When you press enter key the "Lay out options" pane should appear.  It might
come up and have keyboard focus right on the "See more" button or you might
have to use F6 until focus is in the pane.
Press spacebar on the "See more" button.
There will be three page tabs in the resulting dialog box.  Go to the Size
page.
You can tab across to confirm absolute height and width. 
The aspect ratio will likely be locked and be relative to the original
picture size.  As you tab you should find a rotation box and it is likely on
zero degrees.
There are also two boxes for adjusting height and width, which will  only
work if you uncheck the aspect ratio checkbox. If you do uncheck that
checkbox and adjust height and width percentages then JAWS will speak the
new dimensions in the document when you use CTRL with shift and O to select
the picture.

 

I hope this is what you are wanting.

 

Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@...


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 6:37 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Putting graphics in a document using Jaws

 

Hi

Are there any tutorials that cover putting graphics like pictures in a
document using Jaws? Or any tips and tricks? I'm doing a course that
requires me to produce material including pictures for the class students.

Also, are there any teachers on the list who use Jaws and who would be
happy to correspond with me privately?

Thanks for any help anyone is able to offer.


Teri



Re: Question Jaws Caps

Hamit Campos
 

Ah I wouldn't be able to tell you without hearing it. Though, if it's the defalt JAWS voice it is elequence. Did you just install Jaws without changing anything? Like, do you remember ever getting a new voice for JAWS? Because if not than yeah it's the out of box voice which is Elequence.

On 7/21/2019 2:03 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
I don’t know which voice I am using. It is a computer voice, probably dec talk.  
 
-Bob
 
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Question Jaws Caps
 

What voice are you using? Is it not pitch shifting? Even Elequence shifts.

On 7/21/2019 1:01 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
Jaws 2019
Win 10
WLM 12
Word 10
 
When typing in WLM and Word, and reading back with arrow keys, I cannot tell what letters are upper case. This often results in typing a sentence, or even more, in upper case.
 
How can I tell when I am typing in upper case?
How can I tell which letters are upper case when reviewing what I have written with the arrow keys?
    
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com




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Re: Question Jaws Caps

Robert Ringwald
 

I don’t know which voice I am using. It is a computer voice, probably dec talk.  
 
-Bob
 

From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Question Jaws Caps
 

What voice are you using? Is it not pitch shifting? Even Elequence shifts.

On 7/21/2019 1:01 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
Jaws 2019
Win 10
WLM 12
Word 10
 
When typing in WLM and Word, and reading back with arrow keys, I cannot tell what letters are upper case. This often results in typing a sentence, or even more, in upper case.
 
How can I tell when I am typing in upper case?
How can I tell which letters are upper case when reviewing what I have written with the arrow keys?
    
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com




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Re: Mr. Damery's Email

John Gassman <johngassman@...>
 

edamery@vispero.com

I believe @freedomscientific.com also still works.
I use vispero.com

JohnAt 09:47 AM 7/21/2019, you wrote:
I thought I had heard his Email address correctly on a recent FS cast, but apparently not.
Could someone send it to me?
Thanks,
Richard


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