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Strange Voice behavior

Mike Rogers
 

I use the Vocalizer Nathan voice. This morning, as occasionally happens, when the computer boots up the elequence voice comes on and I have to go into the Jaws option menu and change it back to Nathan. Why is this happening? Using latest J-19 and windows 10.

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www.harmonicaworkshops.com


Re: Windows Clipboard,

 


David,

Thanks for posting this helpful overview of the Windows 10 clipboard enhancements. These are long overdue in my opinion. I very much enjoy using the Ditto clipboard manager which sounds a bit more powerful than what you described. I especially like Ditto's ability to use formatting settings of the target location when pasting content coming from a source with different formatting settings. But having more powerful clipboard features built right into the operating system will be very convenient.

Alan Lemly   


On Jul 11, 2019, at 6:35 AM, david <davidmac1957@...> wrote:

 

Good morning;

thought some folks may be interested in this.

 

 

NOTE: The new clipboard features are available starting with Windows 10 October 2018 Update. If you have an

older version of Windows,

you cannot use the new clipboard. If the new clipboard features do not work on your PC, make sure that you enabled the Clipboard history, as shown in the

first section of this guide:

How to sync the Windows 10 clipboard with other computers and devices.

 

How to view the clipboard in Windows 10

 

In Windows 10 October 2018 Update, checking your

clipboard

contents is easy: press the Windows + V keys on your keyboard simultaneously, and you should get a window called Clipboard that lists all the items you

have copied to the clipboard. It should look similar to this:

 

The Clipboard window

The Clipboard window

 

All the items that you recently copied to the clipboard are listed vertically, starting from the most recent one at the top. If you want to see the older

clipboard items, scroll downwards in the Clipboard window.

 

The list of items in the Clipboard window

The list of items in the Clipboard window

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: The clipboard in Windows 10 only supports text, HTML code and images that are less than 1 MB in size. Any other type of content or content

that is larger than 1 MB is not saved into your clipboard, and there is no message telling you that.

 

How to paste the most recent item from the clipboard in Windows 10

 

If you want to paste the latest item that you sent to the clipboard, open the application in which you want to paste it, and press the Ctrl + V keys on

your keyboard. Usually, you can also do the same thing by right-clicking in that app window and then by choosing the Paste option from the contextual menu

displayed.

 

Pasting the last item from the clipboard

Pasting the last item from the clipboard

 

However, in Windows 10, you can also use the Clipboard window to paste the last item in it. Go to the window in which you want to paste it, press the Windows

+ V keys on your keyboard, and then click or tap the first element in the Clipboard window.

 

Pasting the last item from the clipboard, using the Clipboard window

Pasting the last item from the clipboard, using the Clipboard window

 

How to paste old items from the clipboard in Windows 10

 

If you want to paste older items from the clipboard, go to the app window in which you want to do that. Then, press the Windows + V keys on your keyboard,

and click or tap the item that you want to be pasted, from the Clipboard window.

 

Pasting older items from the clipboard

Pasting older items from the clipboard

 

How to pin items to the clipboard in Windows 10

 

Sometimes, you might have some information that you use often, and you want it to be easily accessible. A good example would be an address or a phone number

that you need to paste in multiple documents and at various times. In such a situation, the Windows 10 clipboard can be handy. You can copy that information

to your clipboard and then pin it, so that it is always available in the clipboard, even if you reboot your Windows 10 PC or clear the other contents of

the clipboard.

if your using jaws, and you want to pin an item,

1, windows-key+v=clipboard window,

2, now tab enter on,

more button,

now, use arrow key, you should see,

delete,

pin,

Clear-all.

 

hope this helps.

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 


Windows Clipboard,

david
 

 

Good morning;

thought some folks may be interested in this.

 

 

NOTE: The new clipboard features are available starting with Windows 10 October 2018 Update. If you have an

older version of Windows,

you cannot use the new clipboard. If the new clipboard features do not work on your PC, make sure that you enabled the Clipboard history, as shown in the

first section of this guide:

How to sync the Windows 10 clipboard with other computers and devices.

 

How to view the clipboard in Windows 10

 

In Windows 10 October 2018 Update, checking your

clipboard

contents is easy: press the Windows + V keys on your keyboard simultaneously, and you should get a window called Clipboard that lists all the items you

have copied to the clipboard. It should look similar to this:

 

The Clipboard window

The Clipboard window

 

All the items that you recently copied to the clipboard are listed vertically, starting from the most recent one at the top. If you want to see the older

clipboard items, scroll downwards in the Clipboard window.

 

The list of items in the Clipboard window

The list of items in the Clipboard window

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: The clipboard in Windows 10 only supports text, HTML code and images that are less than 1 MB in size. Any other type of content or content

that is larger than 1 MB is not saved into your clipboard, and there is no message telling you that.

 

How to paste the most recent item from the clipboard in Windows 10

 

If you want to paste the latest item that you sent to the clipboard, open the application in which you want to paste it, and press the Ctrl + V keys on

your keyboard. Usually, you can also do the same thing by right-clicking in that app window and then by choosing the Paste option from the contextual menu

displayed.

 

Pasting the last item from the clipboard

Pasting the last item from the clipboard

 

However, in Windows 10, you can also use the Clipboard window to paste the last item in it. Go to the window in which you want to paste it, press the Windows

+ V keys on your keyboard, and then click or tap the first element in the Clipboard window.

 

Pasting the last item from the clipboard, using the Clipboard window

Pasting the last item from the clipboard, using the Clipboard window

 

How to paste old items from the clipboard in Windows 10

 

If you want to paste older items from the clipboard, go to the app window in which you want to do that. Then, press the Windows + V keys on your keyboard,

and click or tap the item that you want to be pasted, from the Clipboard window.

 

Pasting older items from the clipboard

Pasting older items from the clipboard

 

How to pin items to the clipboard in Windows 10

 

Sometimes, you might have some information that you use often, and you want it to be easily accessible. A good example would be an address or a phone number

that you need to paste in multiple documents and at various times. In such a situation, the Windows 10 clipboard can be handy. You can copy that information

to your clipboard and then pin it, so that it is always available in the clipboard, even if you reboot your Windows 10 PC or clear the other contents of

the clipboard.

if your using jaws, and you want to pin an item,

1, windows-key+v=clipboard window,

2, now tab enter on,

more button,

now, use arrow key, you should see,

delete,

pin,

Clear-all.

 

hope this helps.

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 


Re: adding a website to the wittlist

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Okay, here you go:
File path:
C:\Program Files\Adblock Plus for IE\html\templates\index.html
 
1. Open Ad Block Plust in the Programs Files folder.
2. Open the HTML folder.
3. Open the Templates folder & inside you'll find:
firstRun.html
These are the settings when you first installed the program & are the default settings.
 
index.html
Open this to change your options / settings.  Arrow down to, Allow some non-intrusive advertising, & uncheck this box if you don't want any ads to show, or to allow websites.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

IE, sorry for all the lack of details.

Yes, I use chrome, but I should’ve mentioned I would like to do this for IE which I visit sites from there since chrome is terrible there.

I just remembered how to do it via IE as I am typing this so let me go getter done.

The google chrome suggestion, I’ll try at a later date.

 

Thanks bro!

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

With what browser?  It works differently in IE11 than in Firefox....


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:48 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Ad block plus.

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Yo Bro,

 

Which Ad Blocking program?  Can't try to help if we don't know what we're working with!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

To: 'jaws'

Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:35 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Hi,

I have an adblocker installed. Not sure the name but it’s one that was recommended here.

How do I add the website to the wittlist.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: adding a website to the wittlist

Kimsan
 

IE, sorry for all the lack of details.

Yes, I use chrome, but I should’ve mentioned I would like to do this for IE which I visit sites from there since chrome is terrible there.

I just remembered how to do it via IE as I am typing this so let me go getter done.

The google chrome suggestion, I’ll try at a later date.

 

Thanks bro!

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

With what browser?  It works differently in IE11 than in Firefox....


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:48 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Ad block plus.

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Yo Bro,

 

Which Ad Blocking program?  Can't try to help if we don't know what we're working with!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

To: 'jaws'

Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:35 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Hi,

I have an adblocker installed. Not sure the name but it’s one that was recommended here.

How do I add the website to the wittlist.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: adding a website to the wittlist

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

I thingk you use Chrome, so I installed AdBlockPlus for Chrome, but haven't been able to figure it out as of yet.  Below are some notes I found doing a search and a link that might help more.  If you getter figured out please let the list know how you did it.
 
Featured snippet from the web
You can also manually set AdBlock to run in whitelist mode:
1. Click the AdBlock button and select Options.
2. On the CUSTOMIZE tab under "Stop blocking ads," click Show ads everywhere except for these domains. ...
3. Type the domain(s) where you don't want to see ads. ...
4. Click OK.
 
https://help.getadblock.com/support/solutions/articles/6000055743-how-do-i-tell-adblock-not-to-block-ads-pause-whitelist-disable-and-other-options-
Disable AdBlock on the current page (whitelist or exclude a web page)
 
To always allow ads to show on the page you're currently viewing, click the AdBlock button and select Don't run on this page. This creates a whitelist
rule in AdBlock.
 
Tip: Whitelist rules are also known as exception rules—or sometimes exclusion rules—because they tell ad blockers to make an exception for or exclude whatever
the rule refers to.
 
AdBlock will not block ads on the current page but will still block them everywhere else, including on other pages on the same site.
 
To start blocking ads on that page again:
 
• Click the AdBlock button and select Enable AdBlock on this page.
 
If you don't see that on the AdBlock menu and you're certain you're viewing the page you originally whitelisted, try removing the exception rule manually:
 
1. Click the AdBlock button and select Options.
2. On the CUSTOMIZE tab next to "Manually edit your filters," click Edit.
3. Delete any line containing the name of the website.
4. Click Save.
5. Go back to the page you were viewing and reload it.
 
Disable AdBlock on the current site (whitelist or exclude a website)
 
To always allow ads to show on the site you're currently visiting, click the AdBlock button, select Don't run on pages on this site (Chrome) or Don't run
on pages on this domain (other browsers) and click Exclude.
 
AdBlock will not block ads on any page in any tab on the current site, but will still block them on other sites.
 
To start blocking ads on that site again:
 
• Click the AdBlock button and select Enable AdBlock on this page.
 
If you don't see that on the AdBlock menu, try removing the exception rule manually:
 
1. Click the AdBlock button and select Options.
2. On the CUSTOMIZE tab next to "Manually edit your filters," click Edit.
3. Delete any line containing the name of the website.
4. Click Save.
5. Go back to the page you were viewing and reload it.
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

Ad block plus.

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Yo Bro,

 

Which Ad Blocking program?  Can't try to help if we don't know what we're working with!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

To: 'jaws'

Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:35 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Hi,

I have an adblocker installed. Not sure the name but it’s one that was recommended here.

How do I add the website to the wittlist.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: adding a website to the wittlist

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

With what browser?  It works differently in IE11 than in Firefox....

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

Ad block plus.

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Yo Bro,

 

Which Ad Blocking program?  Can't try to help if we don't know what we're working with!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

To: 'jaws'

Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:35 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Hi,

I have an adblocker installed. Not sure the name but it’s one that was recommended here.

How do I add the website to the wittlist.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: adding a website to the wittlist

Kimsan
 

Ad block plus.

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Yo Bro,

 

Which Ad Blocking program?  Can't try to help if we don't know what we're working with!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

To: 'jaws'

Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:35 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

 

Hi,

I have an adblocker installed. Not sure the name but it’s one that was recommended here.

How do I add the website to the wittlist.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: adding a website to the wittlist

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Yo Bro,
 
Which Ad Blocking program?  Can't try to help if we don't know what we're working with!  LOL 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
To: 'jaws'
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:35 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] adding a website to the wittlist

Hi,

I have an adblocker installed. Not sure the name but it’s one that was recommended here.

How do I add the website to the wittlist.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: Word 2016 "find"

Larry Volk
 

The item count only came in since I upgraded from Jaws14 and Win7. So it
doesn't really make much difference to me the best is that now the Ctrl+f
feature works again.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: July 10, 2019 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I guess I've had mine set this way for so long that I don't ever remember
being told how many times the search word occurs. I just press shift-f4
until I find what I need. Smile.
The JAWS find command
JAWS-control-f
does not tell you how many occurrences there are either.
If you use Word's search and replace, it does tell you how many times the
word was found.
So I typed a document using the word
Test
Several times.
I pressed
control-h
for find and replace.
I told Word to search for
Test
And to replace it with
Test
The same word.
I tabbed to replace all and was promptly told that Word had made seven
replacements.
So if you absolutely need to know how many times you've repeated yourself by
using the same word, there's your work-around. Smile.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Thanks Rebecca, I'm not sure why the search quit working since I moved over
to Win10 from win7 but now this has it working again. Unfortunately, it
doesn't tell me how many occurrences are found now that I have reassigned
the ctrl+f key using these steps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: July 10, 2019 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I use control-f to find the word. You will be on a Find next button rather
than the word you searched for.
Press escape and you will be on the word in the text of the document. There
you can use JAWS up arrow to read the line for context.
If that's not the right occurrence of the word, use the Word find next
command
Shift-f4 and you will be placed on the next occurrence without having to
escape out of a Find next button. Again use JAWS up arrow to read for
context.
Not so hard. Smile.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Rebecca,
Thanks for posting these steps. They do work in Word 2016. Unfortunately,
they've made no difference on my system. If anything, I know longer get the
benefit I described last night when I perform a second "find." With luck,
the situation will return to normal. Did I hear someone say, "Situation
normal. FUBAR"?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I saw this years ago in a Word tutorial that I got, I think, from National
Braille Press. I changed it in my Word 2010.
It may be worth looking at in Word 2016 or 365 to see if it's still doable.
Rebecca
Restoring the traditional find command in Word # Find Command for Word 2010
and above.
Here are the steps for getting CTRL+F to work in the traditional manner.
These steps work in Word 2013. I don't have Word 2016 but I think they
should also work in that version of Word.

1. Use Alt with F followed by T to go into the Word options.
2. In the list of categories either use down arrow or press the letter
C until you get to the "customize ribbon" category.
3. Press Alt with T to use the customize button.
4. Use down arrow until you get to the Home tab.
5. Tab to the commands list.
6. In the commands list press E until you find the "EditFind" command.
7. Tab a couple times to the "press new shortcut key" box.
8. Press CTRL with F.
9. Tab to the Save Changes In box and choose Normal.DOTM.
10. Tab to the Assign button and press spacebar.
11. Tab to the Close button and use spacebar.
12. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Hi Ann,

With a similar configuration, I just tested Word's "find" feature and
realize I'm having a similar experience. However, I'm so used to treating it
as a trial-and-error function that I hadn't noticed. Let me detail two
experiments I just tried.

First, I pressed control-f and typed in my search term. The only way to read
the term in context was to press escape and then insert-8 ("say line").
Initially, JAWS wouldn't read the line with insert-8, but it did so on my
second press. So, how to reach the next result? I pressed control-f again.
As I recall (I can't replicate this now JAWS verbalized "Next result."
Assuming correctly that I was still on the first result, I pressed the
spacebar. I landed on the second result, but JAWS remained uncooperative.
The only way to read the context was, again, to press escape and then
insert-8, the say line command.

Now, this gets interesting. I abandoned that search and started one for a
different term. This time JAWS read the results pretty much as I expected
and wanted. I pressed control-f and enter. JAWS read the context and then
"Next result." I could press escape if I wanted to stay at that point or the
spacebar if I wanted to move on. I chose a term that had numerous
occurrences in that document, and it proceeded the same way throughout.

This is consistent with my experience. My first time through is hit-or-miss.
The second time, for whatever reason, the "find" function works well.

It's important because of the limitations of the JAWS search feature, which
can find only whole words, not search strings that might or might not be
words. Also, Word reports the number of instances of a search term.

I hope this is helpful. I realize it may not sound like it is. And you never
know with JAWS, what works for one person might not for another.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I have tried f6. I get the same result.
At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just
like it does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word in
context???

Much thanks,

Ann







Re: Word 2016 "find"

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I guess I've had mine set this way for so long that I don't ever remember
being told how many times the search word occurs. I just press shift-f4
until I find what I need. Smile.
The JAWS find command
JAWS-control-f
does not tell you how many occurrences there are either.
If you use Word's search and replace, it does tell you how many times the
word was found.
So I typed a document using the word
Test
Several times.
I pressed
control-h
for find and replace.
I told Word to search for
Test
And to replace it with
Test
The same word.
I tabbed to replace all and was promptly told that Word had made seven
replacements.
So if you absolutely need to know how many times you've repeated yourself by
using the same word, there's your work-around. Smile.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Thanks Rebecca, I'm not sure why the search quit working since I moved over
to Win10 from win7 but now this has it working again. Unfortunately, it
doesn't tell me how many occurrences are found now that I have reassigned
the ctrl+f key using these steps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: July 10, 2019 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I use control-f to find the word. You will be on a Find next button rather
than the word you searched for.
Press escape and you will be on the word in the text of the document. There
you can use JAWS up arrow to read the line for context.
If that's not the right occurrence of the word, use the Word find next
command
Shift-f4 and you will be placed on the next occurrence without having to
escape out of a Find next button. Again use JAWS up arrow to read for
context.
Not so hard. Smile.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Rebecca,
Thanks for posting these steps. They do work in Word 2016. Unfortunately,
they've made no difference on my system. If anything, I know longer get the
benefit I described last night when I perform a second "find." With luck,
the situation will return to normal. Did I hear someone say, "Situation
normal. FUBAR"?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I saw this years ago in a Word tutorial that I got, I think, from National
Braille Press. I changed it in my Word 2010.
It may be worth looking at in Word 2016 or 365 to see if it's still doable.
Rebecca
Restoring the traditional find command in Word # Find Command for Word 2010
and above.
Here are the steps for getting CTRL+F to work in the traditional manner.
These steps work in Word 2013. I don't have Word 2016 but I think they
should also work in that version of Word.

1. Use Alt with F followed by T to go into the Word options.
2. In the list of categories either use down arrow or press the letter
C until you get to the "customize ribbon" category.
3. Press Alt with T to use the customize button.
4. Use down arrow until you get to the Home tab.
5. Tab to the commands list.
6. In the commands list press E until you find the "EditFind" command.
7. Tab a couple times to the "press new shortcut key" box.
8. Press CTRL with F.
9. Tab to the Save Changes In box and choose Normal.DOTM.
10. Tab to the Assign button and press spacebar.
11. Tab to the Close button and use spacebar.
12. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Hi Ann,

With a similar configuration, I just tested Word's "find" feature and
realize I'm having a similar experience. However, I'm so used to treating it
as a trial-and-error function that I hadn't noticed. Let me detail two
experiments I just tried.

First, I pressed control-f and typed in my search term. The only way to read
the term in context was to press escape and then insert-8 ("say line").
Initially, JAWS wouldn't read the line with insert-8, but it did so on my
second press. So, how to reach the next result? I pressed control-f again.
As I recall (I can't replicate this now JAWS verbalized "Next result."
Assuming correctly that I was still on the first result, I pressed the
spacebar. I landed on the second result, but JAWS remained uncooperative.
The only way to read the context was, again, to press escape and then
insert-8, the say line command.

Now, this gets interesting. I abandoned that search and started one for a
different term. This time JAWS read the results pretty much as I expected
and wanted. I pressed control-f and enter. JAWS read the context and then
"Next result." I could press escape if I wanted to stay at that point or the
spacebar if I wanted to move on. I chose a term that had numerous
occurrences in that document, and it proceeded the same way throughout.

This is consistent with my experience. My first time through is hit-or-miss.
The second time, for whatever reason, the "find" function works well.

It's important because of the limitations of the JAWS search feature, which
can find only whole words, not search strings that might or might not be
words. Also, Word reports the number of instances of a search term.

I hope this is helpful. I realize it may not sound like it is. And you never
know with JAWS, what works for one person might not for another.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I have tried f6. I get the same result.
At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just
like it does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word in
context???

Much thanks,

Ann







adding a website to the wittlist

Kimsan
 

Hi,

I have an adblocker installed. Not sure the name but it’s one that was recommended here.

How do I add the website to the wittlist.

 

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: Word 2016 "find"

Larry Volk
 

Thanks Rebecca, I'm not sure why the search quit working since I moved over
to Win10 from win7 but now this has it working again. Unfortunately, it
doesn't tell me how many occurrences are found now that I have reassigned
the ctrl+f key using these steps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: July 10, 2019 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I use control-f to find the word. You will be on a
Find next button rather than the word you searched for.
Press escape and you will be on the word in the text of the document. There
you can use JAWS up arrow to read the line for context.
If that's not the right occurrence of the word, use the Word find next
command
Shift-f4 and you will be placed on the next occurrence without having to
escape out of a
Find next button. Again use JAWS up arrow to read for context.
Not so hard. Smile.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Rebecca,
Thanks for posting these steps. They do work in Word 2016. Unfortunately,
they've made no difference on my system. If anything, I know longer get the
benefit I described last night when I perform a second "find." With luck,
the situation will return to normal. Did I hear someone say, "Situation
normal. FUBAR"?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I saw this years ago in a Word tutorial that I got, I think, from National
Braille Press. I changed it in my Word 2010.
It may be worth looking at in Word 2016 or 365 to see if it's still doable.
Rebecca
Restoring the traditional find command in Word # Find Command for Word 2010
and above.
Here are the steps for getting CTRL+F to work in the traditional manner.
These steps work in Word 2013. I don't have Word 2016 but I think they
should also work in that version of Word.

1. Use Alt with F followed by T to go into the Word options.
2. In the list of categories either use down arrow or press the letter
C until you get to the "customize ribbon" category.
3. Press Alt with T to use the customize button.
4. Use down arrow until you get to the Home tab.
5. Tab to the commands list.
6. In the commands list press E until you find the "EditFind" command.
7. Tab a couple times to the "press new shortcut key" box.
8. Press CTRL with F.
9. Tab to the Save Changes In box and choose Normal.DOTM.
10. Tab to the Assign button and press spacebar.
11. Tab to the Close button and use spacebar.
12. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Hi Ann,

With a similar configuration, I just tested Word's "find" feature and
realize I'm having a similar experience. However, I'm so used to treating it
as a trial-and-error function that I hadn't noticed. Let me detail two
experiments I just tried.

First, I pressed control-f and typed in my search term. The only way to read
the term in context was to press escape and then insert-8 ("say line").
Initially, JAWS wouldn't read the line with insert-8, but it did so on my
second press. So, how to reach the next result? I pressed control-f again.
As I recall (I can't replicate this now JAWS verbalized "Next result."
Assuming correctly that I was still on the first result, I pressed the
spacebar. I landed on the second result, but JAWS remained uncooperative.
The only way to read the context was, again, to press escape and then
insert-8, the say line command.

Now, this gets interesting. I abandoned that search and started one for a
different term. This time JAWS read the results pretty much as I expected
and wanted. I pressed control-f and enter. JAWS read the context and then
"Next result." I could press escape if I wanted to stay at that point or the
spacebar if I wanted to move on. I chose a term that had numerous
occurrences in that document, and it proceeded the same way throughout.

This is consistent with my experience. My first time through is hit-or-miss.
The second time, for whatever reason, the "find" function works well.

It's important because of the limitations of the JAWS search feature, which
can find only whole words, not search strings that might or might not be
words. Also, Word reports the number of instances of a search term.

I hope this is helpful. I realize it may not sound like it is. And you never
know with JAWS, what works for one person might not for another.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I have tried f6. I get the same result.
At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just
like it does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word in
context???

Much thanks,

Ann







Re: Word 2016 "find"

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I use control-f to find the word. You will be on a
Find next button rather than the word you searched for.
Press escape and you will be on the word in the text of the document. There
you can use JAWS up arrow to read the line for context.
If that's not the right occurrence of the word, use the Word find next
command
Shift-f4 and you will be placed on the next occurrence without having to
escape out of a
Find next button. Again use JAWS up arrow to read for context.
Not so hard. Smile.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Rebecca,
Thanks for posting these steps. They do work in Word 2016. Unfortunately,
they've made no difference on my system. If anything, I know longer get the
benefit I described last night when I perform a second "find." With luck,
the situation will return to normal. Did I hear someone say, "Situation
normal. FUBAR"?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I saw this years ago in a Word tutorial that I got, I think, from National
Braille Press. I changed it in my Word 2010.
It may be worth looking at in Word 2016 or 365 to see if it's still doable.
Rebecca
Restoring the traditional find command in Word # Find Command for Word 2010
and above.
Here are the steps for getting CTRL+F to work in the traditional manner.
These steps work in Word 2013. I don't have Word 2016 but I think they
should also work in that version of Word.

1. Use Alt with F followed by T to go into the Word options.
2. In the list of categories either use down arrow or press the letter
C until you get to the "customize ribbon" category.
3. Press Alt with T to use the customize button.
4. Use down arrow until you get to the Home tab.
5. Tab to the commands list.
6. In the commands list press E until you find the "EditFind" command.
7. Tab a couple times to the "press new shortcut key" box.
8. Press CTRL with F.
9. Tab to the Save Changes In box and choose Normal.DOTM.
10. Tab to the Assign button and press spacebar.
11. Tab to the Close button and use spacebar.
12. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Hi Ann,

With a similar configuration, I just tested Word's "find" feature and
realize I'm having a similar experience. However, I'm so used to treating it
as a trial-and-error function that I hadn't noticed. Let me detail two
experiments I just tried.

First, I pressed control-f and typed in my search term. The only way to read
the term in context was to press escape and then insert-8 ("say line").
Initially, JAWS wouldn't read the line with insert-8, but it did so on my
second press. So, how to reach the next result? I pressed control-f again.
As I recall (I can't replicate this now JAWS verbalized "Next result."
Assuming correctly that I was still on the first result, I pressed the
spacebar. I landed on the second result, but JAWS remained uncooperative.
The only way to read the context was, again, to press escape and then
insert-8, the say line command.

Now, this gets interesting. I abandoned that search and started one for a
different term. This time JAWS read the results pretty much as I expected
and wanted. I pressed control-f and enter. JAWS read the context and then
"Next result." I could press escape if I wanted to stay at that point or the
spacebar if I wanted to move on. I chose a term that had numerous
occurrences in that document, and it proceeded the same way throughout.

This is consistent with my experience. My first time through is hit-or-miss.
The second time, for whatever reason, the "find" function works well.

It's important because of the limitations of the JAWS search feature, which
can find only whole words, not search strings that might or might not be
words. Also, Word reports the number of instances of a search term.

I hope this is helpful. I realize it may not sound like it is. And you never
know with JAWS, what works for one person might not for another.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I have tried f6. I get the same result.
At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just
like it does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word in
context???

Much thanks,

Ann







Re: Word 2016 "find"

Adrian Spratt
 

Rebecca,
Thanks for posting these steps. They do work in Word 2016. Unfortunately, they've made no difference on my system. If anything, I know longer get the benefit I described last night when I perform a second "find." With luck, the situation will return to normal. Did I hear someone say, "Situation normal. FUBAR"?

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I saw this years ago in a Word tutorial that I got, I think, from National Braille Press. I changed it in my Word 2010.
It may be worth looking at in Word 2016 or 365 to see if it's still doable.
Rebecca
Restoring the traditional find command in Word # Find Command for Word 2010 and above.
Here are the steps for getting CTRL+F to work in the traditional manner.
These steps work in Word 2013. I don't have Word 2016 but I think they should also work in that version of Word.

1. Use Alt with F followed by T to go into the Word options.
2. In the list of categories either use down arrow or press the letter
C until you get to the "customize ribbon" category.
3. Press Alt with T to use the customize button.
4. Use down arrow until you get to the Home tab.
5. Tab to the commands list.
6. In the commands list press E until you find the "EditFind" command.
7. Tab a couple times to the "press new shortcut key" box.
8. Press CTRL with F.
9. Tab to the Save Changes In box and choose Normal.DOTM.
10. Tab to the Assign button and press spacebar.
11. Tab to the Close button and use spacebar.
12. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Hi Ann,

With a similar configuration, I just tested Word's "find" feature and realize I'm having a similar experience. However, I'm so used to treating it as a trial-and-error function that I hadn't noticed. Let me detail two experiments I just tried.

First, I pressed control-f and typed in my search term. The only way to read the term in context was to press escape and then insert-8 ("say line").
Initially, JAWS wouldn't read the line with insert-8, but it did so on my second press. So, how to reach the next result? I pressed control-f again.
As I recall (I can't replicate this now JAWS verbalized "Next result."
Assuming correctly that I was still on the first result, I pressed the spacebar. I landed on the second result, but JAWS remained uncooperative.
The only way to read the context was, again, to press escape and then insert-8, the say line command.

Now, this gets interesting. I abandoned that search and started one for a different term. This time JAWS read the results pretty much as I expected and wanted. I pressed control-f and enter. JAWS read the context and then "Next result." I could press escape if I wanted to stay at that point or the spacebar if I wanted to move on. I chose a term that had numerous occurrences in that document, and it proceeded the same way throughout.

This is consistent with my experience. My first time through is hit-or-miss.
The second time, for whatever reason, the "find" function works well.

It's important because of the limitations of the JAWS search feature, which can find only whole words, not search strings that might or might not be words. Also, Word reports the number of instances of a search term.

I hope this is helpful. I realize it may not sound like it is. And you never know with JAWS, what works for one person might not for another.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I have tried f6. I get the same result.
At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just
like it does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word in
context???

Much thanks,

Ann







Re: issue with chrome

Michael Mote
 

Hi there. I use manual forms mode, and can say that it gives me a
much better experience when brousing the web regardless of which
browser I happen to be using. Also, if Chrome ever stops responding, I
normally unload and then reload JAWS, and my functionality comes back.

On 7/9/19, Don & Cher <oneagleswings1@...> wrote:
I'll give it a whirl- thanks for the idea.



Cher







From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 1:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] issue with chrome



As I hear the JAWS key identifier, which I bring up with JAWS key+1, the
JAWS key+escape command "repaints all currently displayed items on the
screen." It seems to be a kind of reset. I often find that pressing this
command after having already pressed F5 gives me the best results for
displaying and navigating a webpage.



From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
<jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io> > On Behalf
Of
Don & Cher
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] issue with chrome



I have tried F5 often- with no change. What does the insert-escape do for
you?



Cher







From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
<jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io> > On Behalf
Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 3:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] issue with chrome



When this happens, I first press f5, then JAWS key with escape.



From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
<jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io> > On Behalf
Of
james f hooper
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] issue with krome



Greetings guys using the latest jaws 2019 with windows 1903, when I pull
up a website using krome it just says blank any ideas?







Re: Word 2016 "find"

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I saw this years ago in a Word tutorial that I got, I think, from National
Braille Press. I changed it in my Word 2010.
It may be worth looking at in Word 2016 or 365 to see if it's still doable.
Rebecca
Restoring the traditional find command in Word
# Find Command for Word 2010 and above.
Here are the steps for getting CTRL+F to work in the traditional manner.
These steps work in Word 2013. I don't have Word 2016 but I think they
should also work in that version of Word.

1. Use Alt with F followed by T to go into the Word options.
2. In the list of categories either use down arrow or press the letter
C until you get to the "customize ribbon" category.
3. Press Alt with T to use the customize button.
4. Use down arrow until you get to the Home tab.
5. Tab to the commands list.
6. In the commands list press E until you find the "EditFind" command.
7. Tab a couple times to the "press new shortcut key" box.
8. Press CTRL with F.
9. Tab to the Save Changes In box and choose Normal.DOTM.
10. Tab to the Assign button and press spacebar.
11. Tab to the Close button and use spacebar.
12. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

Hi Ann,

With a similar configuration, I just tested Word's "find" feature and
realize I'm having a similar experience. However, I'm so used to treating it
as a trial-and-error function that I hadn't noticed. Let me detail two
experiments I just tried.

First, I pressed control-f and typed in my search term. The only way to read
the term in context was to press escape and then insert-8 ("say line").
Initially, JAWS wouldn't read the line with insert-8, but it did so on my
second press. So, how to reach the next result? I pressed control-f again.
As I recall (I can't replicate this now JAWS verbalized "Next result."
Assuming correctly that I was still on the first result, I pressed the
spacebar. I landed on the second result, but JAWS remained uncooperative.
The only way to read the context was, again, to press escape and then
insert-8, the say line command.

Now, this gets interesting. I abandoned that search and started one for a
different term. This time JAWS read the results pretty much as I expected
and wanted. I pressed control-f and enter. JAWS read the context and then
"Next result." I could press escape if I wanted to stay at that point or the
spacebar if I wanted to move on. I chose a term that had numerous
occurrences in that document, and it proceeded the same way throughout.

This is consistent with my experience. My first time through is hit-or-miss.
The second time, for whatever reason, the "find" function works well.

It's important because of the limitations of the JAWS search feature, which
can find only whole words, not search strings that might or might not be
words. Also, Word reports the number of instances of a search term.

I hope this is helpful. I realize it may not sound like it is. And you never
know with JAWS, what works for one person might not for another.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I have tried f6. I get the same result.
At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just
like it does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word in
context???

Much thanks,

Ann







Re: Word 2016 "find"

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi Ann,

With a similar configuration, I just tested Word's "find" feature and realize I'm having a similar experience. However, I'm so used to treating it as a trial-and-error function that I hadn't noticed. Let me detail two experiments I just tried.

First, I pressed control-f and typed in my search term. The only way to read the term in context was to press escape and then insert-8 ("say line"). Initially, JAWS wouldn't read the line with insert-8, but it did so on my second press. So, how to reach the next result? I pressed control-f again. As I recall (I can't replicate this now JAWS verbalized "Next result." Assuming correctly that I was still on the first result, I pressed the spacebar. I landed on the second result, but JAWS remained uncooperative. The only way to read the context was, again, to press escape and then insert-8, the say line command.

Now, this gets interesting. I abandoned that search and started one for a different term. This time JAWS read the results pretty much as I expected and wanted. I pressed control-f and enter. JAWS read the context and then "Next result." I could press escape if I wanted to stay at that point or the spacebar if I wanted to move on. I chose a term that had numerous occurrences in that document, and it proceeded the same way throughout.

This is consistent with my experience. My first time through is hit-or-miss. The second time, for whatever reason, the "find" function works well.

It's important because of the limitations of the JAWS search feature, which can find only whole words, not search strings that might or might not be words. Also, Word reports the number of instances of a search term.

I hope this is helpful. I realize it may not sound like it is. And you never know with JAWS, what works for one person might not for another.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

I have tried f6. I get the same result.
At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just
like it does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word in
context???

Much thanks,

Ann







Re: Word 2016 "find"

Ann Byrne
 

I have tried f6. I get the same result.

At 07:27 PM 7/9/2019, you wrote:
I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just like it
does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word
in context???

Much thanks,

Ann







Re: Word 2016 "find"

Larry Volk
 

I had problems with the find command since I moved to windows 10. An
alternative key to use is the F6 which brings up the search box just like it
does with the ctrl+f, give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ann Byrne
Sent: July 9, 2019 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Word 2016 "find"

windows 10, 1903
JAWS 2019 June version
Word 2016 retail
JAWS Word classic scripts.

When I press ctrl+f and type in the word 'team' and press enter, JAWS
tells me 'not available in tables or spellcheck ..." or some other
apps. then it says, "one of two". if I press enter on what is
obviously the "find next" button, JAWS speaks the same message, with
the addition of "two of two". It is finding the data. However,
insert+c generates the same "not available" message. Escaping from
the find dialog leaves the cursor on the word, selected.

How can I make JAWS tell me it has found the word and read the word
in context???

Much thanks,

Ann