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Re: Help with jaws. This is urgent.

Loy
 

I had a similar problem not with JAWS but with installing Office. Microsoft disability desk tried for several hours to get it installed but no go. This happened right after updating to Windows 10 1903. Finally I did a reset of windows and after that all went as it should. I installed Office in a few minutes. I think something happened with the first upgrade to 1903 and the reset fixed it.

----- Original Message -----
From: andy t
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 7:54 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Help with jaws. This is urgent.

My computer was working well Wednesday night and I shut it down and when I restarted it yesterday all sound was dead.

I was running windows 10-1809 and the jaws latest June update. I have called Microsoft support 6 times already they did all the troubleshooting they could and still no sound but everything showed that it was working except the sound service was dead. Finally they updated my computer to 1903 and then I had sound again but I can’t get jaws to run on it no matter what I do. I can run narrator fine now I have uninstalled jaws and all the programs associated with it and Microsoft even cleaned the registry and we have re installed jaws several times and even tried a jaws repair but jaws comes up and says there are missing files please re install this program. I

Even called freedom scientific support and got no help there. I would like to know if anyone else has had this problem and if so what did you do to fix it.

I have done all I can to fix this and I am still stumped, if anyone can help me with this I would really appreciate it very much.


Help with jaws. This is urgent.

andy t
 

My computer was working well Wednesday night and I shut it down and when I restarted it yesterday all sound was dead.

I was running windows 10-1809 and the jaws latest June update. I have called Microsoft support 6 times already they did all the troubleshooting they could and still no sound but everything showed that it was working except the sound service was dead. Finally they updated my computer to 1903 and then I had sound again but I can’t get jaws to run on it no matter what I do. I can run narrator fine now I have uninstalled jaws and all the programs associated with it and Microsoft even cleaned the registry and we have re installed jaws several times and even tried a jaws repair but jaws comes up and says there are missing files please re install this program. I

Even called freedom scientific support and got no help there. I would like to know if anyone else has had this problem and if so what did you do to fix it.

I have done all I can to fix this and I am still stumped, if anyone can help me with this I would really appreciate it very much.


Re: Blocked shut downs issue

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Richard
 
I have full administrator rights as well, but at 1 time I couldn't install Jaws updates.  Microsoft Accessibility had to make a permissions change and then I could update Jaws.  Below are the steps that were used for doing this.
 
Jaws Installation Error Message   
 
Installer Information dialog
The system cannot open the device or file specified.
 
The installer has encountered an unexpected error
installing this package. This may indicate a problem with
this package. The error code is 2755.
 
How to fix the above:
 
1. windows key + R
2. Type %temp%
3. hit enter
4. hit the backspace key once
5. In the folder list, open properties on the Temp folder
6. control tab to the Security tab.
7. Tab to the Edit button
8. hit enter
9. tab to the Add button.
10. In the edit field type Everyone
11. then select Check Names.
Everyone should then be underlined.
12. Check the box for Full control under the Allow column,
13. then click  OK a total of three times to close out of that window.
 this.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Blocked shut downs issue

Well Mike, that is one thing it smells like, ... grin.
O if it was an easy fix where permissions are concerned, but unlikely as Microsoft assures me I have full administrative rights on my machine.
Later,

Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,
 
Off the top of my head and not having experienced this behavior personally, this kind of smells like a permissions issue between Jaws & Windows 10.  I don't know how this would be changed, but I don't think it's a very hard fix if this is the case.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 12:46 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Blocked shut downs issue

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 


Re: Blocked shut downs issue

Richard Turner
 

Well Mike, that is one thing it smells like, ... grin.
O if it was an easy fix where permissions are concerned, but unlikely as Microsoft assures me I have full administrative rights on my machine.
Later,

Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,
 
Off the top of my head and not having experienced this behavior personally, this kind of smells like a permissions issue between Jaws & Windows 10.  I don't know how this would be changed, but I don't think it's a very hard fix if this is the case.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 12:46 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Blocked shut downs issue

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 


Re: Blocked shut downs issue

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Richard,
 
Off the top of my head and not having experienced this behavior personally, this kind of smells like a permissions issue between Jaws & Windows 10.  I don't know how this would be changed, but I don't think it's a very hard fix if this is the case.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 12:46 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Blocked shut downs issue

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 


Blocked shut downs issue

Richard Turner
 

If I have Jaws 2018, or Jaws 2019 load at login and after login, when I go
to shut down or restart, the operation is blocked and there is nothing I can
do other than power down.

I only had one version loading of course, but I tried with each separately.

If I use Narrator at login and after login, I can restart or shut down with
no issues what so ever.
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how was it resolved?
Thanks,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 


Re: excel row's and column reading title issue

Faraz
 

once someone shared me Excel 2010 tutorials recorded by assistive technology and I took allot of help from them. Now, I am using MS 2016 office pack and appreciate if you have tutorials for office or excel 2016 recorded by same institute.


Thank you.

On 7/5/2019 2:22 AM, Jim Pursley wrote:
Yes, you can use the titleregionx to delineate rows and columns in specific regions.  You absolutely must have the title reading override OFF, as the first responder said.  If the titles don't read for you once you've set them up, first suspect the override position in the Excel quick settings.


You dont even have to use title in the name. But, there's one important step you MUST do to get your columns and rows line up as you want them.  You will need to position your cursor on the top left cell before you look for define name and start the naming process.  Insert end will take you to the lower right end of the spreadsheet to give you a view of the size of the whole thing, but if you organize by regions you'll need of course to set up ranges for each region.


Like the golf ball, you'll be a titleist when you mark Excel titles using define name.On 7/4/2019 5:11 AM, Faraz wrote:
Thanks for the help. i tried the solution and its work now. a bit more help. i am actually using multiple data region in my work book and wanting to know if i can setup individual row's and column reading settings for each of them ? and how ?


On 7/4/2019 1:00 AM, Jim Pursley wrote:
Since JAWS 2018, I've found the ins/Alt/control R or c to be only temporary.  It won't hold for me at least when I exit or when I save the spreadsheet. But it is handy for quick column and row title naming.  More permanent is the way Microsoft set it up in Excel, using that applications key to scroll up (faster than down) to define name.  Click on define name and write titleregion1..(end of the spreadsheet) then either hit enter or tab out to the end and hit OK.  Using this method is permanent once you save the file.  It will hold even if you need to temporarily exite the spreadsheet without closing.  You can also use the ribbon menus under the formula tab to define a name, but the application key is a lot faster.


Additionally, the process works great if you  want to have JAWS read columns and titles of multiple regions (titleregion2.. etc.


Alas, my simple R and C method has givenway to more typing, but at least I don't fret any longer when opening a spreadsheet.


Note: The method I mentioned above should work in Excel 2013, too, though I've not tried it.

On 7/3/2019 9:30 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
Try insert control alt r on your row title and insert control alt c for your column title.



-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Faraz
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] excel row's and column reading title issue

hello list, i am facing issue of reading row's and column title in excel
2013 with jaws 2019. i even apply the required setting in jaws verbosity but it is still not reading column titles for row's. i believe it is because of new jaws 2019 as i have been using the same excel file . if any of you facing the same issue please do let me know the fix.

thanks in advance.

--
With best regards,
Faraz q.








--
With best regards,
Faraz q.


Re: excel row's and column reading title issue

Faraz
 

thanks Jim, I am not Excel savvy person but sometimes i need to do work on excel with multiple regions. I understand and will apply the solution however, i have never messed up advance settings in excel with jaws thats why feeling a bit hard. i will get back to you if i find hard to manage data regions in respect to jaws row's and column reading title settings.

On 7/5/2019 2:22 AM, Jim Pursley wrote:
Yes, you can use the titleregionx to delineate rows and columns in specific regions.  You absolutely must have the title reading override OFF, as the first responder said.  If the titles don't read for you once you've set them up, first suspect the override position in the Excel quick settings.


You dont even have to use title in the name. But, there's one important step you MUST do to get your columns and rows line up as you want them.  You will need to position your cursor on the top left cell before you look for define name and start the naming process.  Insert end will take you to the lower right end of the spreadsheet to give you a view of the size of the whole thing, but if you organize by regions you'll need of course to set up ranges for each region.


Like the golf ball, you'll be a titleist when you mark Excel titles using define name.On 7/4/2019 5:11 AM, Faraz wrote:
Thanks for the help. i tried the solution and its work now. a bit more help. i am actually using multiple data region in my work book and wanting to know if i can setup individual row's and column reading settings for each of them ? and how ?


On 7/4/2019 1:00 AM, Jim Pursley wrote:
Since JAWS 2018, I've found the ins/Alt/control R or c to be only temporary.  It won't hold for me at least when I exit or when I save the spreadsheet. But it is handy for quick column and row title naming.  More permanent is the way Microsoft set it up in Excel, using that applications key to scroll up (faster than down) to define name.  Click on define name and write titleregion1..(end of the spreadsheet) then either hit enter or tab out to the end and hit OK.  Using this method is permanent once you save the file.  It will hold even if you need to temporarily exite the spreadsheet without closing.  You can also use the ribbon menus under the formula tab to define a name, but the application key is a lot faster.


Additionally, the process works great if you  want to have JAWS read columns and titles of multiple regions (titleregion2.. etc.


Alas, my simple R and C method has givenway to more typing, but at least I don't fret any longer when opening a spreadsheet.


Note: The method I mentioned above should work in Excel 2013, too, though I've not tried it.

On 7/3/2019 9:30 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
Try insert control alt r on your row title and insert control alt c for your column title.



-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Faraz
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] excel row's and column reading title issue

hello list, i am facing issue of reading row's and column title in excel
2013 with jaws 2019. i even apply the required setting in jaws verbosity but it is still not reading column titles for row's. i believe it is because of new jaws 2019 as i have been using the same excel file . if any of you facing the same issue please do let me know the fix.

thanks in advance.

--
With best regards,
Faraz q.








--
With best regards,
Faraz q.


ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] Screen readder user, computer user? Contact me. And please donâ?Tt reply on list

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Re: Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

Adrian Spratt
 

It doesn’t happen often, and I’m hard-pressed to detect a pattern. It happened when I rebooted the other day, but not right after a Win10 update. The one reliable occurrence is brief but odd. When I unload JAWS with JAWS key+F4, another voice temporarily takes over. I think it’s Eloquence. But when I bring back JAWS, my default voice reasserts itself.

 

The only time this phenomenon was a real nuisance was when I updated JAWS. I’d lose my default completely and have to use the synthesizer manager to get it back. However, I haven’t experienced the problem after the last one or two updates.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

Hi Adrian & Mr. Ed,

 

Have either of you noticed if this happens after an update?  Or is it a spiratic random pain in the posterior?!  It seems like Win10 1903 came out with 2 or 3 cumulative updates in a short period of time and you know we all receive updates at different times depending on what criteria I don't have a clue!  Since I run eloquence as my default I've never had this happen.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 2:55 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

This happens for me fairly often. The fast solution is to go into voice profiles with JAWS key+control+s to select my default. I agree, though, it is disconcerting.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

Hi,

I started my computer yesterday and when the screen came up to enter my pin, Jaws spoke and it was using the Tom compact voice which is the correct voice. After I put my pin in and my computer continued to load and Jaws came up speaking it was using the Jaws eloquence voice. I then restarted my computer twice again and the same thing happened. I have never in all my years of using Jaws had the change of voice happen. I have Tom compact voice as my default voice. I have use this voice for years and it has come up running every time. So since the Jaws voice was not correct I assume my settings were not being loaded either.  So I went into the Jaws settings and merge my settings over from Jaws 18 and as soon as I did this the Tom compact voice came on and my Jaws is working like it should be. One more thing when I shut down my pc that night and turned it off that night it was running correctly and then I turn it on in the morning and the settings did not come on  correctly with the correct voice. So have any of you ever had this happen where your voice and settings never came up running correctly?

Mr. Ed


Re: Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

Adrian Spratt
 

It is changing only the voice profile.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

Hi,

Do you think it is only changing the voice profile or do you think it is also not loading the personal Jaws settings?

If you change the voice profile back then how do you tell the personal Jaws settings are loaded?

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

This happens for me fairly often. The fast solution is to go into voice profiles with JAWS key+control+s to select my default. I agree, though, it is disconcerting.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

Hi,

I started my computer yesterday and when the screen came up to enter my pin, Jaws spoke and it was using the Tom compact voice which is the correct voice. After I put my pin in and my computer continued to load and Jaws came up speaking it was using the Jaws eloquence voice. I then restarted my computer twice again and the same thing happened. I have never in all my years of using Jaws had the change of voice happen. I have Tom compact voice as my default voice. I have use this voice for years and it has come up running every time. So since the Jaws voice was not correct I assume my settings were not being loaded either.  So I went into the Jaws settings and merge my settings over from Jaws 18 and as soon as I did this the Tom compact voice came on and my Jaws is working like it should be. One more thing when I shut down my pc that night and turned it off that night it was running correctly and then I turn it on in the morning and the settings did not come on  correctly with the correct voice. So have any of you ever had this happen where your voice and settings never came up running correctly?

Mr. Ed


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Re: Question About Jaws Bypass Key

Glenn / Lenny
 

It can be useful on web pages when a space bar or enter key isn't working.
Do the insert + 3 and do one of the mentioned action keys.
It does not always work, but sometimes it does.
Glenn

Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Question About Jaws Bypass Key

Works very well!!!!
Go Angels, no matter what Mike says!!!!


JohnAt 05:51 PM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
>Hi Robert,
>
>Yes there is, Insert + 3, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>
>Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
>If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:rsr@...>Robert Ringwald
>To: <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>Jaws
>Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 5:38 PM
>Subject: [jaws-users] Question About Jaws Bypass Key
>
>Is there a bypass key in Jaws like Insert B in Window-EYES?
>
>Bob Ringwald
>Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
><http://www.ringwald.com>www.ringwald.com
>


JAWS Certified, 2014.
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Re: Question About Jaws Bypass Key

John Gassman <johngassman@...>
 

Works very well!!!!
Go Angels, no matter what Mike says!!!!


JohnAt 05:51 PM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
Hi Robert,

Yes there is, Insert + 3, on the number row above the main keyboard.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:rsr@...>Robert Ringwald
To: <mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io>Jaws
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 5:38 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Question About Jaws Bypass Key

Is there a bypass key in Jaws like Insert B in Window-EYES?

Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
<http://www.ringwald.com>www.ringwald.com

JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


Re: Question About Jaws Bypass Key

Ann Byrne
 

Insert + numbers row 3.

At 07:38 PM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
Is there a bypass key in Jaws like Insert B in Window-EYES?

Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com


Re: Question About Jaws Bypass Key

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Robert,
 
Yes there is, Insert + 3, on the number row above the main keyboard.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
To: Jaws
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 5:38 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] Question About Jaws Bypass Key

Is there a bypass key in Jaws like Insert B in Window-EYES?
 
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com


Question About Jaws Bypass Key

Robert Ringwald
 

Is there a bypass key in Jaws like Insert B in Window-EYES?
 
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com


Re: File Grouping

Victor Gouveia
 

Hi Mauricio,
 
Yes, I am applying to all folders from within the folder itself, I am not going into the control panel for any part of this.
 
On the flip side, it has corrected itself, and I guess my settings finally synchronized with the cloud.
 
Perhaps the 1903 update wasn’t as flawless as we were led to believe.  LOL.
 
Victor
 

From: Mauricio Molina
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping
 

Hi,

 

Yes, in the steps I outlined below, I never once go into the control panel; I stay within the folder, for example the Download folder, to perform all steps.

 

Mauricio.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 11:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping

 

Are you saying that you apply the view from within the folder you modified or from the control panel? Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mauricio Molina
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping

 

Hi Victor,

 

To be clear, are you attempting to apply the view to all folders while still in the folder with the issue and not from the Control Panel?

 

For example, after performing the steps outlined earlier in let’s say the Downloads folder:

 

  1. press Alt+F
  2. Down arrow to “Options” and press Enter.
  3. Press Control+Tab to move to the View page.
  4. Upon moving to the View page you will be given the option to apply the view to all folders of the same type, press Spacebar.
  5. Tab to OK and activate.
  6. Finished.

I apologize if these are in fact the steps you tried. This is what I had to do to make the setting stick.

 

Good luck.

 

Mauricio

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 11:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping

 

Hi Mike,

 

Thanks for this, it helped, byt only temporarily.  When I go to aply to all folders, it reverts back to the grouped items and changes the sort order to date accessed.

 

Any idea what’s going on?

 

Victor

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:00 PM

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping

 

Hi Victor,

 

This is because you need to change the, Group By, setting to, None, in the view menu.  While in a folder, let's use the Downloads folder as an example.  Press, Control + spacebar, so Jaws reports, not selected.  Open the context menu with the Applications key or Shift + F10.  Press enter on the, View submenu, choose what you want, list , details or... and press enter.  Open the context menu and open the, Sort By submenu, and press enter on your choice.  Now open the context menu and open the, Group By submenu, find, None, and press enter.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----

From: Victor Gouveia

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 10:49 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] File Grouping

 

Hi Folks,

 

I just updated to Windows 10 version 1903, and my files seem to be grouped by date, or at least, the last time I accessed them.

 

The go by today, last week, last month and so on.

 

Can I shut this off, and if so, how?

 

I’ve looked through the view menu and it seems like everything is set like before the update, but I still can’t get it to look right.

 

Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Victor


Re: Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Adrian & Mr. Ed,
 
Have either of you noticed if this happens after an update?  Or is it a spiratic random pain in the posterior?!  It seems like Win10 1903 came out with 2 or 3 cumulative updates in a short period of time and you know we all receive updates at different times depending on what criteria I don't have a clue!  Since I run eloquence as my default I've never had this happen.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

This happens for me fairly often. The fast solution is to go into voice profiles with JAWS key+control+s to select my default. I agree, though, it is disconcerting.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

Hi,

I started my computer yesterday and when the screen came up to enter my pin, Jaws spoke and it was using the Tom compact voice which is the correct voice. After I put my pin in and my computer continued to load and Jaws came up speaking it was using the Jaws eloquence voice. I then restarted my computer twice again and the same thing happened. I have never in all my years of using Jaws had the change of voice happen. I have Tom compact voice as my default voice. I have use this voice for years and it has come up running every time. So since the Jaws voice was not correct I assume my settings were not being loaded either.  So I went into the Jaws settings and merge my settings over from Jaws 18 and as soon as I did this the Tom compact voice came on and my Jaws is working like it should be. One more thing when I shut down my pc that night and turned it off that night it was running correctly and then I turn it on in the morning and the settings did not come on  correctly with the correct voice. So have any of you ever had this happen where your voice and settings never came up running correctly?

Mr. Ed


Re: Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

Mr. Ed
 

Hi,

Do you think it is only changing the voice profile or do you think it is also not loading the personal Jaws settings?

If you change the voice profile back then how do you tell the personal Jaws settings are loaded?

Mr. Ed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

This happens for me fairly often. The fast solution is to go into voice profiles with JAWS key+control+s to select my default. I agree, though, it is disconcerting.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Jaws not loading my settings and correct voice

 

Hi,

I started my computer yesterday and when the screen came up to enter my pin, Jaws spoke and it was using the Tom compact voice which is the correct voice. After I put my pin in and my computer continued to load and Jaws came up speaking it was using the Jaws eloquence voice. I then restarted my computer twice again and the same thing happened. I have never in all my years of using Jaws had the change of voice happen. I have Tom compact voice as my default voice. I have use this voice for years and it has come up running every time. So since the Jaws voice was not correct I assume my settings were not being loaded either.  So I went into the Jaws settings and merge my settings over from Jaws 18 and as soon as I did this the Tom compact voice came on and my Jaws is working like it should be. One more thing when I shut down my pc that night and turned it off that night it was running correctly and then I turn it on in the morning and the settings did not come on  correctly with the correct voice. So have any of you ever had this happen where your voice and settings never came up running correctly?

Mr. Ed