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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
Hello a demo jaws user. The Lady said the Captcher software for
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NVDA/Jaws users too saulve a Captcha with NVDA/Jaws where can I get it or orader It for free tell me more. Please saveing me Money&atrip to the Computer
On 7/3/19, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
Howdy Boss, --
for if you persaveer. you will konker never feer. try try try again
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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
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Howdy Boss,
See my reply to Larry.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture,
How To Create A Toggle Keystroke Easy enough to do, just got to figure out the benefit
of doing it.
From: Mike
B
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 6:31 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How
To Create A Toggle Keystroke Hi All,
Below are steps for creating a
toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture,
and this feature is also explained.
This can only be changed in the
Settings Center Default All Applications in, the , Miscellaneous folder, #24 of
25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web
/ HTML / PDFs. The accessibility driver is a system level driver installed by our software that has been used for many years to provide screen information to JAWS. This information is known as the Off Screen Model (OSM) and is used primarily by review cursors like the JAWS Cursor and Invisible Cursor as well as by JAWS scripts. As Windows 10 increasingly uses different methods of displaying information, this legacy accessibility driver no longer works in many cases. Clearing this check box configures JAWS to use new API Accessibility Monitor technology we developed in order to help overcome the missing information previously obtained from the Accessibility Driver. This check box is selected by default. This feature has only been in Jaws
since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws version prior to J2018 don't bother
looking for this feature in the older versions.
To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following: 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the
list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press
enter.
2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws
reports, Default.
3. Tab 1 time into the list of
default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none,
entry.
4. Press, Alt + A, to open the
Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey to
go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,.
5. You are in a edit field so enter
the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off.
Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold down the
Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but
the keystroke you want to use.
6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox
to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's
checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a
dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press
the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make
sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using
Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished! David Ferrin Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.
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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
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Hi Larry,
I can't give you any examples
because I'm not running any newer versions of programs that I can turn this
feature on or off with to get better reading results. I've tried this
feature with my currently installed programs on my Windows 10 computer and
either turned on or off didn't matter either way, but I posted the steps for
those that might be able to benefit from having a toggle keystroke to turn this
on / off on the fly. Below is a thread that might give mor insight of this
feature.
Original Message
From: l. radical Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a program in order to trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days ago i upgrade to windows 10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same program in the new operating system the jaws does not read any content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution is wellcome and thanks for any assistance. regards, --Kostas-- From:
Sieghard Weitzel As much as you may not like this answer, there may not be a good solution for this. The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale where I have similar issues. Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and then open your program and see if it helped: 1. Open Jaws Settings Center with
Jaws Key + 6 on the number row
2. Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the search box, then tab once and you should have the following two results: Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages checked, ReadingUse Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture checked, Miscellaneous not checked 4. Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it. 6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find that some applications work better with the old accessibility display driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked. And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information when the accessibility display driver is unchecked. Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here: Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch cursor Regards,
Sieghard Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture,
How To Create A Toggle Keystroke Hi Mike; I looked in jaws 2018 and I couldn’t find this toggle but I was able to find it in 2019.
It would be good if you can give an example of what turning this feature on/off would do.
From:
jaws-users-list@groups.io
[mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Hi All,
Below are steps for creating a toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, and this feature is also explained.
This
can only be changed in the Settings Center Default All Applications in, the ,
Miscellaneous folder, #24 of 25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web
This
feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws
version prior to J2018 don't bother looking for this feature in the older
versions. 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter. 2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default. 3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry. 4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,. 5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off. Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use. 6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
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Hi Net bat,
I don't know what to tell
you other than maybe calling tech support to see if they can figure out why
this feature wasn't installed with your J2018 or J2019 on your Windows 10
computer. I have it in both J2018 and J2019 on both my Windows 7
& 10 computers. I'm running Jaws Home versions and my operating
systems on both computers is Pro.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture,
How To Create A Toggle Keystroke is for windows 7. i am not makeing any changes in windows 7. are these options only for the pro version? i have the home version. -----Original Message----- From: Mike B Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:31 PM To: Jaws-Users-List Subject: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke Hi All, Below are steps for creating a toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, and this feature is also explained. This can only be changed in the Settings Center Default All Applications in, the , Miscellaneous folder, #24 of 25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web / HTML / PDFs. The accessibility driver is a system level driver installed by our software that has been used for many years to provide screen information to JAWS. This information is known as the Off Screen Model (OSM) and is used primarily by review cursors like the JAWS Cursor and Invisible Cursor as well as by JAWS scripts. As Windows 10 increasingly uses different methods of displaying information, this legacy accessibility driver no longer works in many cases. Clearing this check box configures JAWS to use new API Accessibility Monitor technology we developed in order to help overcome the missing information previously obtained from the Accessibility Driver. This check box is selected by default. This feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws version prior to J2018 don't bother looking for this feature in the older versions. To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following: 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter. 2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default. 3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry. 4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,. 5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off. Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use. 6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
David Ferrin
Easy enough to do, just got to figure out the benefit
of doing it.
From: Mike
B
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 6:31 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How
To Create A Toggle Keystroke Hi All,
Below are steps for creating a
toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture,
and this feature is also explained.
This can only be changed in the
Settings Center Default All Applications in, the , Miscellaneous folder, #24 of
25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web
/ HTML / PDFs. The accessibility driver is a system level driver installed by our software that has been used for many years to provide screen information to JAWS. This information is known as the Off Screen Model (OSM) and is used primarily by review cursors like the JAWS Cursor and Invisible Cursor as well as by JAWS scripts. As Windows 10 increasingly uses different methods of displaying information, this legacy accessibility driver no longer works in many cases. Clearing this check box configures JAWS to use new API Accessibility Monitor technology we developed in order to help overcome the missing information previously obtained from the Accessibility Driver. This check box is selected by default. This feature has only been in Jaws
since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws version prior to J2018 don't bother
looking for this feature in the older versions.
To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following: 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the
list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press
enter.
2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws
reports, Default.
3. Tab 1 time into the list of
default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none,
entry.
4. Press, Alt + A, to open the
Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey to
go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,.
5. You are in a edit field so enter
the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off.
Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold down the
Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but
the keystroke you want to use.
6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox
to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's
checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a
dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press
the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make
sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using
Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished! David Ferrin Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.
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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
david
Hello; in jaws 2018, you'll find this setting, jaws settings center, miscellaneous, note, when you get into the jaws settings center, you'll need to ctrl+shift+dc =default,
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 7:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
Hi Mike; I looked in jaws 2018 and I couldn’t find this toggle but I was able to find it in 2019.
It would be good if you can give an example of what turning this feature on/off would do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Hi All,
Below are steps for creating a toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, and this feature is also explained.
This can only be changed in the Settings Center Default All Applications in, the , Miscellaneous folder, #24 of 25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web
This feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws version prior to J2018 don't bother looking for this feature in the older versions. 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter. 2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default. 3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry. 4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,. 5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off. Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use. 6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
Larry Volk
Hi Mike; I looked in jaws 2018 and I couldn’t find this toggle but I was able to find it in 2019.
It would be good if you can give an example of what turning this feature on/off would do.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: July 3, 2019 4:31 PM To: Jaws-Users-List Subject: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
Hi All,
Below are steps for creating a toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, and this feature is also explained.
This can only be changed in the Settings Center Default All Applications in, the , Miscellaneous folder, #24 of 25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web
This feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws version prior to J2018 don't bother looking for this feature in the older versions. 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter. 2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default. 3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry. 4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,. 5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off. Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use. 6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
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Re: Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
netbat66
well, this option is not in my keyboard manager either, for windows 10 but it is for windows 7.
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i am not makeing any changes in windows 7. are these options only for the pro version? i have the home version.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 3:31 PM To: Jaws-Users-List Subject: [jaws-users] Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke Hi All, Below are steps for creating a toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, and this feature is also explained. This can only be changed in the Settings Center Default All Applications in, the , Miscellaneous folder, #24 of 25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web / HTML / PDFs. The accessibility driver is a system level driver installed by our software that has been used for many years to provide screen information to JAWS. This information is known as the Off Screen Model (OSM) and is used primarily by review cursors like the JAWS Cursor and Invisible Cursor as well as by JAWS scripts. As Windows 10 increasingly uses different methods of displaying information, this legacy accessibility driver no longer works in many cases. Clearing this check box configures JAWS to use new API Accessibility Monitor technology we developed in order to help overcome the missing information previously obtained from the Accessibility Driver. This check box is selected by default. This feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws version prior to J2018 don't bother looking for this feature in the older versions. To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following: 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter. 2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default. 3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry. 4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,. 5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off. Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use. 6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
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Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture, How To Create A Toggle Keystroke
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
Hi All,
Below are steps for creating a
toggle keystroke for the, Accessibility Driver For Screen Capture,
and this feature is also explained.
This can only be changed in the
Settings Center Default All Applications in, the , Miscellaneous folder, #24 of
25. Not the Miscellaneous folder in, Web
/ HTML / PDFs. The accessibility driver is a system level driver installed by our software that has been used for many years to provide screen information to JAWS. This information is known as the Off Screen Model (OSM) and is used primarily by review cursors like the JAWS Cursor and Invisible Cursor as well as by JAWS scripts. As Windows 10 increasingly uses different methods of displaying information, this legacy accessibility driver no longer works in many cases. Clearing this check box configures JAWS to use new API Accessibility Monitor technology we developed in order to help overcome the missing information previously obtained from the Accessibility Driver. This check box is selected by default. This feature has only been in Jaws
since Jaws 2018, so if you're running a Jaws version prior to J2018 don't bother
looking for this feature in the older versions.
To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following: 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the
list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press
enter.
2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws
reports, Default.
3. Tab 1 time into the list of
default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none,
entry.
4. Press, Alt + A, to open the
Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter. The hotkey
to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is, Control + A,.
5. You are in a edit field so enter
the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and
off. Only type the keystroke, example: Alt, Control + K. Hold
down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything
else but the keystroke you want to use.
6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox
to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's
checked by default. Tab to, Okay and press the spacebar, you'll get a
dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press
the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. Now check the keystroke to make
sure it works. You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using
Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
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Re: Brave Browser
Holger Fiallo
Saw an article about google chrome privacy in my Iphone google news.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Brave Browser
Considering that Brave uses Chrome under the hood, i would suspect that it wouldn't be any safer than Chrome. I have not heard or read anything about security liabilities with Chrome.
Andy
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Re: Brave Browser
Holger Fiallo
Not that I can tell. I am able to use it without no issues. I use youtube, audible and applevis web pages no issues. I did a search in amazon and no problems. I know about brave because one of the podcast person from jaws stated he has it and works with jaws.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Brave Browser
I admit that it's been a while since I tried using Brave and I probably should give it another chance. When I last used it with another screen reader the text of the Web site was readable but the menus were also being rendered in the virtual buffer above the text of the site, making the reading experience a bit of a mess. Is this still occurring? David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com On 7/3/2019 1:32 PM, Fred Adams wrote: I just installed the brave browser and so far I like it pretty well.-----Original Message-----From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf OfHolger FialloSent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:15 PMTo: jaws-users-list@groups.ioSubject: [jaws-users] Brave BrowserI heard about Brave in the FS podcast and I just got it. It does work wellwith jaws 2019. I like it and since I heard that google is not getting saferegarding security, I will use it and I sometimes google freezes and affectsjaws. So I will play with Brave. It is similar to google.
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Re: podcast 172
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
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Here's the URL for the
webpage. You can make a shortcut to your desktop once you're on the
website. To create a desktop shortcut using IE11 try the
following:
1. While on the webpage below press,
Alt + F, for the file menu.
2. Navigate to the, submenu
Send, and press enter or right arrow.
3. Down arrow to, shortcut to
desktop, and press enter. You're done.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go
dodgers! If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] podcast 172 On 7/3/19, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: > Howdy, > > Here's a direct download link for the FSCast #172. > > http://traffic.libsyn.com/fscast/FSCast172-OpenLineJune2019.mp3 > > Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! > If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo > To: jaws-users-list@groups.io > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: [jaws-users] podcast 172 > > > I can lisin to the podcast what is the u r l > > On 7/3/19, Holger Fiallo <holgfiallo@...> wrote: >> The FS podcast is out and you can listen to it now. Yes. It is all about >> jaws. A question that someone had about not been able to use H to move >> from >> heading to heading and having to turn off jaws and restart. I notice this >> with google. Sometimes in google the H does not work and I have to use >> insert f4 to close jaws and jaws to restart. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > for if you persaveer. you will konker never feer. try try try again > > > > > > -- for if you persaveer. you will konker never feer. try try try again
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Re: excel row's and column reading title issue
Jim Pursley
Since JAWS 2018, I've found the ins/Alt/control R or c to be only temporary. It won't hold for me at least when I exit or when I save the spreadsheet. But it is handy for quick column and row title naming. More permanent is the way Microsoft set it up in Excel, using that applications key to scroll up (faster than down) to define name. Click on define name and write titleregion1..(end of the spreadsheet) then either hit enter or tab out to the end and hit OK. Using this method is permanent once you save the file. It will hold even if you need to temporarily exite the spreadsheet without closing. You can also use the ribbon menus under the formula tab to define a name, but the application key is a lot faster.
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Additionally, the process works great if you want to have JAWS read columns and titles of multiple regions (titleregion2.. etc. Alas, my simple R and C method has givenway to more typing, but at least I don't fret any longer when opening a spreadsheet. Note: The method I mentioned above should work in Excel 2013, too, though I've not tried it.
On 7/3/2019 9:30 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
Try insert control alt r on your row title and insert control alt c for your column title.
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Re: Brave Browser
Andy
Brave reminds me of Chrome when I first started
running it, in terms of its speed, but I can say that about most browsers that I
have used in the beginning. Eventually they do start to slow down, and I
would suspect that this would happen with Brave as well in time.
Andy
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Re: Brave Browser
Andy
Considering that Brave uses Chrome under the hood,
i would suspect that it wouldn't be any safer than Chrome. I have not
heard or read anything about security liabilities with Chrome.
Andy
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Re: mail app
David Moore
Hi! Here is a tutorial that I did on using the Mail app in Windows 10. This will clear up a lot of questions. Narrator and NVDA are by far best for using the Mail app. When I use JAWS, it either closes the Mail app, or it does read the wrong message as you arrow through your list of messages. Here is a drop box link for the tutorial. It is a text tutorial where I take you through the Mail app with JAWS. JAWS worked pretty good when I did this tutorial, but now, Narrator and NVDA work much better! Here is the link to the tutorial: https://www.dropbox.com/s/262glvmr5m7kmkn/Updated%20Tutorial%20for%20the%20Win10%20Mail%2C%20People%2C%20and%20Calendar%20apps.txt?dl=1 David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] mail app
Regarding the free Mail app which is part of Windows 10 I'm wondering if it's just me or if the app's behavior when navigating messages is somewhat inconsistent. It's very difficult for me to articulate what I'm seeing and I suppose that I should write down some notes on its behavior but I'm finding that, overall, navigating messages doesn't reliably move to the message that you might be expecting, particularly when pressing the Home or End keys to move to the top and bottom of the list. Just wondering about the observations of others. David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com On 7/3/2019 9:11 AM, david wrote:
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Re: mail app
David Goldfield
Regarding the free Mail app which is part of Windows 10 I'm wondering if it's just me or if the app's behavior when navigating messages is somewhat inconsistent. It's very difficult for me to articulate what I'm seeing and I suppose that I should write down
some notes on its behavior but I'm finding that, overall, navigating messages doesn't reliably move to the message that you might be expecting, particularly when pressing the Home or End keys to move to the top and bottom of the list. Just wondering about
the observations of others. David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 7/3/2019 9:11 AM, david wrote:
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Re: File Grouping
Cher
Yes, I have done this more than once- but has then reverted. Just tried to set all folders the same while in the downloads folder- will see what happens…
Cher
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping
OK, Give the following a try;
The, Group By, in the View menu needs to be changed. Try the following:
1. Open your Downloads folder, or, your documents folder, and press, Control + spacebar, to make sure nothing is selected. 2. Press the applications key or Shift + F10 to open the context menu. 3. In the View submenu press enter on, List, or whatever you want from this submenu. if you've already have list checked then, leave this as it is.
4. Open the context menu again, open the, Sort By submenu, and press enter on, Name, or whatever your choice might be. again, if you have name checked leave it as it is.
5. Open the context menu again, down arrow to the, Group By submenu, and press enter on, None. here's where most likely the issue is, you can't find none in the list, so, while in the list, press enter on name, go back into group-by menu, arrow down you should find none press enter your done. That's it, you should be good to go.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don & Cher
I’m still having the same problem. I can’t locate an option to set all folders to the same view like we used in earlier versions. In File Explorer I hear progress percentages and then my sort by choice is shown- but windows seems to be reconfiguring it when I open Explorer. But if I open my user name, downloads- the display reverts to the order by date thing after a while- which is making us all nuts 😉
Cher
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Hi Mike,
Thanks for this, it helped, byt only temporarily. When I go to aply to all folders, it reverts back to the grouped items and changes the sort order to date accessed.
Any idea what’s going on?
Victor
From: Mike B Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping
Hi Victor,
This is because you need to change the, Group By, setting to, None, in the view menu. While in a folder, let's use the Downloads folder as an example. Press, Control + spacebar, so Jaws reports, not selected. Open the context menu with the Applications key or Shift + F10. Press enter on the, View submenu, choose what you want, list , details or... and press enter. Open the context menu and open the, Sort By submenu, and press enter on your choice. Now open the context menu and open the, Group By submenu, find, None, and press enter.
----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 10:49 AM Subject: [jaws-users] File Grouping
Hi Folks,
I just updated to Windows 10 version 1903, and my files seem to be grouped by date, or at least, the last time I accessed them.
The go by today, last week, last month and so on.
Can I shut this off, and if so, how?
I’ve looked through the view menu and it seems like everything is set like before the update, but I still can’t get it to look right.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Victor
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Re: Brave Browser
David Goldfield
I admit that it's been a while since I tried using Brave and I probably should give it another chance. When I last used it with another screen reader the text of the Web site was readable but the menus were also being rendered in the virtual buffer above
the text of the site, making the reading experience a bit of a mess. Is this still occurring?
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 7/3/2019 1:32 PM, Fred Adams wrote:
I just installed the brave browser and so far I like it pretty well. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: [jaws-users] Brave Browser I heard about Brave in the FS podcast and I just got it. It does work well with jaws 2019. I like it and since I heard that google is not getting safe regarding security, I will use it and I sometimes google freezes and affects jaws. So I will play with Brave. It is similar to google.
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Re: File Grouping
david
OK, Give the following a try;
The, Group By, in the View menu needs to be changed. Try the following:
1. Open your Downloads folder, or, your documents folder, and press, Control + spacebar, to make sure nothing is selected. 2. Press the applications key or Shift + F10 to open the context menu. 3. In the View submenu press enter on, List, or whatever you want from this submenu. if you've already have list checked then, leave this as it is.
4. Open the context menu again, open the, Sort By submenu, and press enter on, Name, or whatever your choice might be. again, if you have name checked leave it as it is.
5. Open the context menu again, down arrow to the, Group By submenu, and press enter on, None. here's where most likely the issue is, you can't find none in the list, so, while in the list, press enter on name, go back into group-by menu, arrow down you should find none press enter your done. That's it, you should be good to go.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping
I’m still having the same problem. I can’t locate an option to set all folders to the same view like we used in earlier versions. In File Explorer I hear progress percentages and then my sort by choice is shown- but windows seems to be reconfiguring it when I open Explorer. But if I open my user name, downloads- the display reverts to the order by date thing after a while- which is making us all nuts 😉
Cher
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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia
Hi Mike,
Thanks for this, it helped, byt only temporarily. When I go to aply to all folders, it reverts back to the grouped items and changes the sort order to date accessed.
Any idea what’s going on?
Victor
From: Mike B Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File Grouping
Hi Victor,
This is because you need to change the, Group By, setting to, None, in the view menu. While in a folder, let's use the Downloads folder as an example. Press, Control + spacebar, so Jaws reports, not selected. Open the context menu with the Applications key or Shift + F10. Press enter on the, View submenu, choose what you want, list , details or... and press enter. Open the context menu and open the, Sort By submenu, and press enter on your choice. Now open the context menu and open the, Group By submenu, find, None, and press enter.
----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 10:49 AM Subject: [jaws-users] File Grouping
Hi Folks,
I just updated to Windows 10 version 1903, and my files seem to be grouped by date, or at least, the last time I accessed them.
The go by today, last week, last month and so on.
Can I shut this off, and if so, how?
I’ve looked through the view menu and it seems like everything is set like before the update, but I still can’t get it to look right.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Victor
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