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Re: EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Michael,
 
I'm not David, but when a download link is posted to a group list such as this one, everyone in the group is welcome to download the material.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

David is it ok for me to download the files as well? 

Thanks in advance Michael

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hi Fanus!
I have exactly what you are asking for!

Here is a Drop Box link to a folder that has many text files that goes through how to use Windows 10 with JAWS.

This folder has what anyone would need to learn a lot about Windows 10 with JAWS.

These are text files.

Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ur56izaanlcysuz/AACnbvdS5_lHIesfMQYEBCX0a?dl=1

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 5:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hello list

Does anyone know of EText files which one can download and print to Braille

for teaching a new pc user how to use jaws and windows 10?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Question About Use Of Ebay With Jaws

Glenn / Lenny
 

Some states are now charging tax for on-line items.
Nebraska has started this now, the big sellers like eBay and Amazon are complying.
Glenn

Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Question About Use Of Ebay With Jaws


I don't sell on EBay, but I shop there all the time using the EBay advanced search page.?? Shopping on EBay is like browsing the world's largest 99 cent store.?? I have purchased dozens of items for less than a buck, which is actually less than I would pay at my local 99 cent store, which charges sales tax.?? It must cost these sellers more than 99 cents to ship these items from China or Hong Kong, so I don't know how they makemoney. For instance, I recently purchased a pair of oven mitts on EBay for only 99 cents shipped.?? My local 99 cent store charges $1.49 plus tax for only one mitt.?? So what if it sometimes takes a few weeks to receive the item??? The EBay advanced page is completely accessible with JAWS.?? Happy shopping.


Gerald



On 6/30/2019 12:56 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
Does anyone buy and sell successfully on ebay with Jaws??
??
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com

???The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Re: Question About Use Of Ebay With Jaws

Gerald Levy
 


I don't sell on EBay, but I shop there all the time using the EBay advanced search page.?? Shopping on EBay is like browsing the world's largest 99 cent store.?? I have purchased dozens of items for less than a buck, which is actually less than I would pay at my local 99 cent store, which charges sales tax.?? It must cost these sellers more than 99 cents to ship these items from China or Hong Kong, so I don't know how they makemoney. For instance, I recently purchased a pair of oven mitts on EBay for only 99 cents shipped.?? My local 99 cent store charges $1.49 plus tax for only one mitt.?? So what if it sometimes takes a few weeks to receive the item??? The EBay advanced page is completely accessible with JAWS.?? Happy shopping.


Gerald



On 6/30/2019 12:56 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
Does anyone buy and sell successfully on ebay with Jaws??
??
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com

???The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



Re: Question About Use Of Ebay With Jaws

Glenn / Lenny
 

Robert,
Since you reposted your message for posterity, I'll follow with my same reply for others, as I have done a lot of buying on eBay.
 
I can tell you with certainty, that the buy part can easily enough, you just need to use headings commands and know the basics of page navigation.
Use headings as well as buttons, like the submit bid button, and the E key to find the edit field so you can enter a bid.
I search for the word DESC to find the description.
Search for shipp for shipping to find out how much the shipping is.
That is with two Ps.
Use C for the category search.
And if looking for computer and networking, press D and up arrow, because there are a lot of Cs in the list.
Oh yeah, you'll need a PayPal account, and it is nice the way it can go directly to your PayPal and enter the transaction for you.
 
HTH.
Glenn

Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 11:16 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [jaws-users] Question About

Can Ebay be used successfully, both buy and sell with Jaws>?
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com
Go Dodgers


Question About Use Of Ebay With Jaws

Robert Ringwald
 

Does anyone buy and sell successfully on ebay with Jaws??
 
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



Re: Column and Row announcements?

Brian Lee
 

Hello Ron,

 

Here are a couple methods you can try to see if they do what you are wanting.  I am not currently using the chromium-based Edge browser but these steps will likely work.

 

To affect the speaking of such things as table row and column titles and cell coordinates try the following:

 

1.       Open the browser and use JAWS key with V to bring up the quick settings for the browser.

2.       Tab to the tree view and you should hear the “Virtual cursor options” item announced.  If the level is closed then use right arrow key to expand it. 

3.       Arrow down to “Virtual cursor verbosity level” and use the spacebar to cycle through the three choices.  Stop pressing spacebar when you hear “Low.”

4.       Press T three times until you get to “Table options.”

5.       If “Table options” is closed then use right arrow to expand it.

6.       Arrow down and you will find the current setting for layout tables.  Leave this set to ignore.

7.       Arrow down to Table Titles.  “Only marked headers” is selected by default.  Use spacebar until you get to the Off option. 

8.       Arrow down to Cell Coordinates Announcement.  If selected then the coordinates will be announced after the cell content.  Use spacebar to uncheck it.

9.       Tab to OK and use spacebar.

 

If you want to stop hearing table and grid information at the beginning or end of such elements you can do the following:

 

1.       When in the browser use JAWS key with 6 to launch the settings center for the browser.

2.       Tab to the tree view and then arrow down to Web/HTML/PDFS.  If necessary use right arrow key to open it.

3.       Press R until you hear “Reading” and if necessary use right arrow to open it.

4.       Use down arrow key until you get to “Web verbosity level” and you will hear that it is set to high, medium or low.  Use spacebar repeatedly to cycle among these three settings.  You might want to use “Low” to minimize the amount of speech feedback from JAWS.

5.       Arrow down to “Configure web verbosity levels” and if necessary use right arrow to expand it.

6.       Use down arrow to the level you chose.  “Low” should be the level you choose to get less speech when navigating. 

7.       When you hear “Low” with the ellipsis press spacebar.

8.       This brings up a list of preferences for when the “Low” verbosity level is set.

9.       Tap T until you hear “Table or grid” and press spacebar to uncheck it.

10.   Tab to OK and use spacebar.

11.   Tab to “Apply” and use spacebar, and then tab to OK and use spacebar again.

 

Take care.    

 

Brian Lee

brianllee@...

 


ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] Question About

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

The subject line could use improvement,
Remember some members use the archives, and seeing this subject line gives
no clue as to what is being discussed.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr@...>
To: "Jaws" <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 12:16 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Question About


Can Ebay be used successfully, both buy and sell with Jaws>?

Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com
Go Dodgers


Re: EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

Fanus
 

Hello David

Thanks so much. I have not looked at the files but do you know who is the author. I want to try to get permission to have the files printed in Braille because the guy who wants to learn jaws and windows 10 prefers to learn using Braille.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 02:50
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hi Fanus!
I have exactly what you are asking for!

Here is a Drop Box link to a folder that has many text files that goes through how to use Windows 10 with JAWS.

This folder has what anyone would need to learn a lot about Windows 10 with JAWS.

These are text files.

Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ur56izaanlcysuz/AACnbvdS5_lHIesfMQYEBCX0a?dl=1

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 5:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hello list

Does anyone know of EText files which one can download and print to Braille

for teaching a new pc user how to use jaws and windows 10?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Research it and amazon

David Goldfield
 

I would also like to add that Brian Hartgen's Leasey program does contain a working Amazon search facility, which is available  from within the Leasey search tools. Leasey Search is somewhat similar to Research It but contains items not found in the standard Research It list, such as currency conversion, info on specific artists or albums, performing a Google search, etc. Amazon searches are one of the items which are in the list of search sources. Leasey is not free of cost but is, in my opinion, worth considering as it adds a huge amount of functionality to JAWS. I highly recommend it. The above link will take you to the Leasey page for more information.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 6/29/2019 11:07 PM, John Gassman wrote:
FS took Amazon and Weather out of ResearchIt recently and a lot of the sports a few years ago.
Pages kept changing and they had to keep correcting all the time.
Now a complete overhaul is planned. I don't know when we'll see it.
My guess would be JAWS 2020 at the earliest but I don't know anything oficially.
John
At 06:53 PM 6/29/2019, you wrote:
Does anyone knows if jaws will add amazon to research it?



JAWS Certified, 2014.
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Re: Column and Row announcements?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Thank you Brian.  These are the shortcuts I was hoping to hear about!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Column and Row announcements?

 

Hello Vicky,

 

There is a keystroke for setting column title reading in an Excel worksheet and one for setting row title reading.  At least, this is true for JAWS 2019 when using Excel 2013 but I think it should still work when using Excel in Office 365. 

 

To set column title reading move to the row that contains the column titles and use JAWS key with CTRL, Alt and C.  To use row title reading move to the column that contains the row titles and use JAWS key with CTRL, Alt and R.  After setting column and row titles every time you arrow up or down you should hear the row title and every time you arrow right or left you should hear the column title for the column focus moves to with the arrow keys.  They are not easy keystrokes but you can add keystrokes or they can be changed in the keyboard manager for Excel.  If you have a number pad then you might consider holding down the big insert key (JAWS key) and the CTRL key just to the left of the left arrow key using your right hand, and hold down Alt to the left of the spacebar perhaps with your thumb of the left hand and find the C if setting the column title reading or R for the row title reading. 

  

Several years ago, Freedom Scientific put out a DAISY book on why using the Excel naming feature should be used instead of using the JAWS method for applying titles to columns, rows or both columns and rows.  When using the Excel method anyone using Excel can take advantage of the naming feature as changes are saved in the workbook instead of in a JSI file as with JAWS.  The above keystrokes can be used but using the Excel naming method was recommended by Freedom Scientific in the training documentation.  If the worksheet is just for your use then using the keystrokes above will likely suffice but if you want more info on the Excel naming feature feel free to contact me.    

 

Take care.

 

Brian Lee

brianllee@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: June 28, 2019 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Column and Row announcements?

 

Hi List, Is there a quick way or shortcut command to turn the announcing of columns and rows in Word 365 with Jaws 2019?

 

Thanks very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V            

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

Michael Hunt
 

David is it ok for me to download the files as well? 

Thanks in advance Michael

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hi Fanus!
I have exactly what you are asking for!

Here is a Drop Box link to a folder that has many text files that goes through how to use Windows 10 with JAWS.

This folder has what anyone would need to learn a lot about Windows 10 with JAWS.

These are text files.

Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ur56izaanlcysuz/AACnbvdS5_lHIesfMQYEBCX0a?dl=1

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 5:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hello list

Does anyone know of EText files which one can download and print to Braille

for teaching a new pc user how to use jaws and windows 10?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Question About

Glenn / Lenny
 

I can tell you with certainty, that the buy part can easily enough, you just need to use headings commands and know the basics of page navigation.
Use headings as well as buttons, like the submit bid button, and the E key to find the edit field so you can enter a bid.
I search for the word DESC to find the description.
Search for shipp for shipping to find out how much the shipping is.
That is with two Ps.
Use C for the category search.
And if looking for computer and networking, press D and up arrow, because there are a lot of Cs in the list.
Oh yeah, you'll need a PayPal account, and it is nice the way it can go directly to your PayPal and enter the transaction for you.
 
HTH.
Glenn

Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 11:16 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [jaws-users] Question About

Can Ebay be used successfully, both buy and sell with Jaws>?
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com
Go Dodgers


Question About

Robert Ringwald
 

Can Ebay be used successfully, both buy and sell with Jaws>?
Bob Ringwald
Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV
www.ringwald.com
Go Dodgers


Re: Research it and amazon

John Gassman <johngassman@...>
 

FS took Amazon and Weather out of ResearchIt recently and a lot of the sports a few years ago.
Pages kept changing and they had to keep correcting all the time.
Now a complete overhaul is planned. I don't know when we'll see it.
My guess would be JAWS 2020 at the earliest but I don't know anything oficially.
John
At 06:53 PM 6/29/2019, you wrote:
Does anyone knows if jaws will add amazon to research it?

JAWS Certified, 2014.
http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification


Re: EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

chris_toomer@...
 

Hey David, thanks for posting this. I've been playing with my Windows 10 laptop for about a week now and I think those files could definitely be useful.



Chris Toomer Sr.

On Jun 29, 2019, at 8:50 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi Fanus!
I have exactly what you are asking for!

Here is a Drop Box link to a folder that has many text files that goes through how to use Windows 10 with JAWS.

This folder has what anyone would need to learn a lot about Windows 10 with JAWS.

These are text files.

Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ur56izaanlcysuz/AACnbvdS5_lHIesfMQYEBCX0a?dl=1

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 5:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hello list

Does anyone know of EText files which one can download and print to Braille

for teaching a new pc user how to use jaws and windows 10?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

 


Research it and amazon

Holger Fiallo
 

Does anyone knows if jaws will add amazon to research it?


Re: EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

David Moore
 

Hi Fanus!
I have exactly what you are asking for!

Here is a Drop Box link to a folder that has many text files that goes through how to use Windows 10 with JAWS.

This folder has what anyone would need to learn a lot about Windows 10 with JAWS.

These are text files.

Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ur56izaanlcysuz/AACnbvdS5_lHIesfMQYEBCX0a?dl=1

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 5:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] EText files to learn jaws and windows 10

 

Hello list

Does anyone know of EText files which one can download and print to Braille

for teaching a new pc user how to use jaws and windows 10?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How Do I Get JAWS Out of My List of Open Windows?

Steve
 


Put it in the system tray in the Jaws wizard.

----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 1:15 PM
Subject: [jaws-users] How Do I Get JAWS Out of My List of Open Windows?

Hi,
I know this is a really basic question, but I don’t know the answer so I’m asking here.]
When I alt-tab through my list of open windows, I keep having to go through JAWS Home Use. I’ve tried minimizing that window, but that doesn’t work.
Could someone tell me how I can get JAWS Home Use out of my list of open windows when I alt-tab through them?
Thanks much.
Evan


Re: Column and Row announcements?

Ron Kolesar
 

Brian, is there a way to turn off columns and rolls off while using EDGE?
I’ve already tried insert 6 and did a default and attempted to set edge up to work well with JAWS.
But would appreciate the additional actual settings that what should be on and off for EDGE to be more blind friendly.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar
 

From: Brian Lee
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 18:41
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Column and Row announcements?
 

Hello Vicky,

 

There is a keystroke for setting column title reading in an Excel worksheet and one for setting row title reading.  At least, this is true for JAWS 2019 when using Excel 2013 but I think it should still work when using Excel in Office 365. 

 

To set column title reading move to the row that contains the column titles and use JAWS key with CTRL, Alt and C.  To use row title reading move to the column that contains the row titles and use JAWS key with CTRL, Alt and R.  After setting column and row titles every time you arrow up or down you should hear the row title and every time you arrow right or left you should hear the column title for the column focus moves to with the arrow keys.  They are not easy keystrokes but you can add keystrokes or they can be changed in the keyboard manager for Excel.  If you have a number pad then you might consider holding down the big insert key (JAWS key) and the CTRL key just to the left of the left arrow key using your right hand, and hold down Alt to the left of the spacebar perhaps with your thumb of the left hand and find the C if setting the column title reading or R for the row title reading. 

 

Several years ago, Freedom Scientific put out a DAISY book on why using the Excel naming feature should be used instead of using the JAWS method for applying titles to columns, rows or both columns and rows.  When using the Excel method anyone using Excel can take advantage of the naming feature as changes are saved in the workbook instead of in a JSI file as with JAWS.  The above keystrokes can be used but using the Excel naming method was recommended by Freedom Scientific in the training documentation.  If the worksheet is just for your use then using the keystrokes above will likely suffice but if you want more info on the Excel naming feature feel free to contact me.   

 

Take care.

 

Brian Lee

brianllee@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: June 28, 2019 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Column and Row announcements?

 

Hi List, Is there a quick way or shortcut command to turn the announcing of columns and rows in Word 365 with Jaws 2019?

 

Thanks very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V            

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

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Re: Column and Row announcements?

Brian Lee
 

Hello Vicky,

 

There is a keystroke for setting column title reading in an Excel worksheet and one for setting row title reading.  At least, this is true for JAWS 2019 when using Excel 2013 but I think it should still work when using Excel in Office 365. 

 

To set column title reading move to the row that contains the column titles and use JAWS key with CTRL, Alt and C.  To use row title reading move to the column that contains the row titles and use JAWS key with CTRL, Alt and R.  After setting column and row titles every time you arrow up or down you should hear the row title and every time you arrow right or left you should hear the column title for the column focus moves to with the arrow keys.  They are not easy keystrokes but you can add keystrokes or they can be changed in the keyboard manager for Excel.  If you have a number pad then you might consider holding down the big insert key (JAWS key) and the CTRL key just to the left of the left arrow key using your right hand, and hold down Alt to the left of the spacebar perhaps with your thumb of the left hand and find the C if setting the column title reading or R for the row title reading. 

  

Several years ago, Freedom Scientific put out a DAISY book on why using the Excel naming feature should be used instead of using the JAWS method for applying titles to columns, rows or both columns and rows.  When using the Excel method anyone using Excel can take advantage of the naming feature as changes are saved in the workbook instead of in a JSI file as with JAWS.  The above keystrokes can be used but using the Excel naming method was recommended by Freedom Scientific in the training documentation.  If the worksheet is just for your use then using the keystrokes above will likely suffice but if you want more info on the Excel naming feature feel free to contact me.    

 

Take care.

 

Brian Lee

brianllee@...

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: June 28, 2019 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Column and Row announcements?

 

Hi List, Is there a quick way or shortcut command to turn the announcing of columns and rows in Word 365 with Jaws 2019?

 

Thanks very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V            

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

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