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Re: Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Glenn / Lenny
 

I sure would not recommend going to the employer as a first measure.
The rehab agency has a responsibility to do what it takes to get people employed, and the state agency should pay for any scripting that will provide accessibility.
And if the state agency does not think that they should do that, I would go to a Client Assistance Program, which is the go-between for clients and the state agency.  If a state does not have a CAP program, then there should be a state ombudsman to contact.
But if the job would get someone off of SSDI, then they should be motivated to assist any way they can.
Glenn

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Richard:
 
So basically, what they, and other companies like them, are saying is: Tough cookies to you. We don’t care what the ADA says. Please forgive the pessimism.
Jerry
 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software
 
 
I have never been in a situation to personally have to enter anything in hospital charts.
I work at a rehabilitation agency, yes, but my job is dealing with adaptive devices outside of computers.
I work with the people that get to deal with hospitals when these situations come up.
Like Vicki said, it is really hard to get them to budge if it isn't a permanent job, and even then, it is extremely costly if it can be done.
First step is to talk with the I.T. folks or at least, their HR department, since this is an accommodation issue.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

I ran into this problem when doing my hospital internship. I was working with three different hospitals and none of them were willing to share with a third party. I was told that if it was a permanent work situation, maybe, but not for an internship.
 
The only solution I had was to get a reader who they approved, someone in the same program I was in, and have her enter into the charts whatever I told her. Not the ideal solution as her mistakes, if any, became my mistakes, but it was all I could do.
 
Vicki
 
----- Original Message -----
From: kelsiwatters@...
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software
 

Hello JAWS Users,

 

I am a totally blind JAWS user. I will be starting a hospital residency in August. A requirement of this residency is to write charting notes in the hospital’s Electronic Medical Records (EMR), through the hospital’s secure IntraNet. The charting software used by this hospital is Cerner/PowerChart. Does anybody know about the compatibility of this software with JAWS 18?

 

Thank you,

 

Kelsi Watters

Request album

Holger Fiallo
 

Looking for album Party of One by george thorogood

Mistake

Holger Fiallo
 

Mistake wrong group. Sorry for that.

Re: Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Justin Williams
 

Yes.  That would be my first go to.  If this is a school project, make sure your school is involved with the jaunt to the state rehab agency. 

 

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

I sure would not recommend going to the employer as a first measure.

The rehab agency has a responsibility to do what it takes to get people employed, and the state agency should pay for any scripting that will provide accessibility.

And if the state agency does not think that they should do that, I would go to a Client Assistance Program, which is the go-between for clients and the state agency.  If a state does not have a CAP program, then there should be a state ombudsman to contact.

But if the job would get someone off of SSDI, then they should be motivated to assist any way they can.

Glenn

 

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Richard:

 

So basically, what they, and other companies like them, are saying is: Tough cookies to you. We don’t care what the ADA says. Please forgive the pessimism.

Jerry

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

 

I have never been in a situation to personally have to enter anything in hospital charts.

I work at a rehabilitation agency, yes, but my job is dealing with adaptive devices outside of computers.

I work with the people that get to deal with hospitals when these situations come up.

Like Vicki said, it is really hard to get them to budge if it isn't a permanent job, and even then, it is extremely costly if it can be done.

First step is to talk with the I.T. folks or at least, their HR department, since this is an accommodation issue.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

I ran into this problem when doing my hospital internship. I was working with three different hospitals and none of them were willing to share with a third party. I was told that if it was a permanent work situation, maybe, but not for an internship.

 

The only solution I had was to get a reader who they approved, someone in the same program I was in, and have her enter into the charts whatever I told her. Not the ideal solution as her mistakes, if any, became my mistakes, but it was all I could do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Hello JAWS Users,

 

I am a totally blind JAWS user. I will be starting a hospital residency in August. A requirement of this residency is to write charting notes in the hospital’s Electronic Medical Records (EMR), through the hospital’s secure IntraNet. The charting software used by this hospital is Cerner/PowerChart. Does anybody know about the compatibility of this software with JAWS 18?

 

Thank you,

 

Kelsi Watters

Re: Request album

David Ferrin
 

No I do not think this is the list for such things.
 

From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Request album
 

Looking for album Party of One by george thorogood


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: Request album

Holger Fiallo
 

This is why I sent an email stating mistake.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Request album

 

No I do not think this is the list for such things.

 

From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:26 PM

Subject: [jaws-users] Request album

 

Looking for album Party of One by george thorogood


David Ferrin
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

Re: Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Mike,
 
Press, Alt + F, then press the letter, T, now arrow down to, Proofing, and tab through to find what you're looking for.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:35 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word

I've tried going to word to stop the announcement," gram. error", but can't find options.  the file menu isn't like the ones before.  Not good at working with these changes.  Help appreciated.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com





Re: Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word

Mike Rogers
 

Thanks Mike. That did the trick.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:14:51 -0700
"Mike B" <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Press, Alt + F, then press the letter, T, now arrow down to, Proofing, and
tab through to find what you're looking for.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Rogers
To: Jaws Users List
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:35 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word


I've tried going to word to stop the announcement," gram. error", but can't
find options. the file menu isn't like the ones before. Not good at
working with these changes. Help appreciated.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com







Re: ASCII COde, Please

JM Casey
 

Hey jerry.

 

Your question caused me to do a little bit of research. Some symbols appear to be font dependent when it comes to standard character codes; it looks like the checkmark is one of them. In other words, you will not be able to get this in the standard way using an alt code in most fonts available in Microsoft Windows. It looks like the alt code is 0252, but in most fonts, this will show up as a u diaresis (sp) symbol.

There’s a neat, rather strange, way around this, which avoids having to use the symbols list or library in MS office. I tested this and it seems to work beautifully, but you may be a little bemused.

Try this method.

Go to where you want to insert the checkmark

Type in the numbers 2713 (this is a unicode value)

Now, select those numbers with your cursor.

Now type in alt-x.

The numbers will disappear and be replaced with a checkmark.

Like so

Re: Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word

Brian Lee
 

Hello Mike,

First of all, if you turn off the display of grammatical errors in Word you
will not be able to use Word's feature of displaying incorrect grammar in a
document. The JAWS detection of the marked errors only points out the
places in the document marked with the blue underline by Word. Turning off
the JAWS detection does not turn off Word's displaying of grammatical
errors. However, it is the JAWS detection that doesn't stop when unchecked
in the Settings Center. Turning off the Word options affects the proofing
and the display of errors whereas the JAWS feature is just for whether or
not those errors should be detected by JAWS and spoken.

To access the proofing options in Word do the following:

1. Hold down Alt key, press F while the alt key is held down and then
release the Alt key. If you are used to the menu structure that is the same
keystroke used for going into a file menu. The Alt+F keystroke activates
the File button in later versions of Word.
2. After using the Alt with F keystroke use the letter T by itself. This
activates the Word Options menu item.
3. After pressing the letter T focus should go into a list of categories
for the Word options. At that point either press the letter P to select the
Proofing options or use down arrow key until you get to the Proofing
category.
4. Once you have selected the Proofing category by either pressing P or
using down arrow to it, you use the tab key to move from option to option
relevant to proofing.
Use the tab key (in Word 2013 you tab 12 times but it might vary in other
Word versions) until you find a checkbox labeled "Mark grammar errors as you
type." If JAWS says it is checked then use spacebar to uncheck it. If in
the future you want grammar errors marked by Word as you type in a document
then go back into the options and check the box.
5. After using the spacebar to uncheck the box use tab key a couple times
to find a checkbox labeled "Check Grammar with Spelling." If JAWS says it
is checked then use spacebar to remove the checkmark. If in the future you
want grammar to be checked with spelling then go back into the Proofing
options and check this box.
6. After using spacebar to remove the checkmark use tab key until you find
the OK button and use spacebar to activate the button.

The above steps are for stopping Word from marking grammatical errors with a
blue underline. If you want Word to display grammatical errors but not have
JAWS detect and speak them that is where the current problem with JAWS lies
as using the checkbox in the JAWS Settings Manager to stop the detection
doesn't seem to work, at least for Word 2013.

Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@...

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Mike Rogers
Sent: June 24, 2019 8:36 AM
To: Jaws Users List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word

I've tried going to word to stop the announcement," gram. error", but can't
find options. the file menu isn't like the ones before. Not good at
working with these changes. Help appreciated.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com

Re: Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Richard Turner
 


The sad reality is, assuming we are still talking about the hospital issue, is that no matter who is willing to pay for the scripting, if the hospital won't allow a third party software like Jaws on their client sensitive database, the only option is to either bring a law suit, or find another internship.
The State agency can bring all the standard arguments about the ADA, but if the organization says no, it will need either a law suit or contacting the Attorney General and that will take even longer. If the program is to start in 3 months, I doubt even if they were willing, scripting could be done by then.

It should not be this way, but it is.
I hope it gets worked out.
Richard
 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 24, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:

Yes.  That would be my first go to.  If this is a school project, make sure your school is involved with the jaunt to the state rehab agency. 

 

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

I sure would not recommend going to the employer as a first measure.

The rehab agency has a responsibility to do what it takes to get people employed, and the state agency should pay for any scripting that will provide accessibility.

And if the state agency does not think that they should do that, I would go to a Client Assistance Program, which is the go-between for clients and the state agency.  If a state does not have a CAP program, then there should be a state ombudsman to contact.

But if the job would get someone off of SSDI, then they should be motivated to assist any way they can.

Glenn

 

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Richard:

 

So basically, what they, and other companies like them, are saying is: Tough cookies to you. We don’t care what the ADA says. Please forgive the pessimism.

Jerry

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

 

I have never been in a situation to personally have to enter anything in hospital charts.

I work at a rehabilitation agency, yes, but my job is dealing with adaptive devices outside of computers.

I work with the people that get to deal with hospitals when these situations come up.

Like Vicki said, it is really hard to get them to budge if it isn't a permanent job, and even then, it is extremely costly if it can be done.

First step is to talk with the I.T. folks or at least, their HR department, since this is an accommodation issue.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

I ran into this problem when doing my hospital internship. I was working with three different hospitals and none of them were willing to share with a third party. I was told that if it was a permanent work situation, maybe, but not for an internship.

 

The only solution I had was to get a reader who they approved, someone in the same program I was in, and have her enter into the charts whatever I told her. Not the ideal solution as her mistakes, if any, became my mistakes, but it was all I could do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Hello JAWS Users,

 

I am a totally blind JAWS user. I will be starting a hospital residency in August. A requirement of this residency is to write charting notes in the hospital’s Electronic Medical Records (EMR), through the hospital’s secure IntraNet. The charting software used by this hospital is Cerner/PowerChart. Does anybody know about the compatibility of this software with JAWS 18?

 

Thank you,

 

Kelsi Watters

Re: Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Glenn / Lenny
 

It is up to the state agency, if the person is a client, to approach the hospital and talk to their IT people and offer to hire someone to do scripting.
Glenn
 

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software


The sad reality is, assuming we are still talking about the hospital issue, is that no matter who is willing to pay for the scripting, if the hospital won't allow a third party software like Jaws on their client sensitive database, the only option is to either bring a law suit, or find another internship.
The State agency can bring all the standard arguments about the ADA, but if the organization says no, it will need either a law suit or contacting the Attorney General and that will take even longer. If the program is to start in 3 months, I doubt even if they were willing, scripting could be done by then.

It should not be this way, but it is.
I hope it gets worked out.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 24, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:

Yes.  That would be my first go to.  If this is a school project, make sure your school is involved with the jaunt to the state rehab agency. 

 

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

I sure would not recommend going to the employer as a first measure.

The rehab agency has a responsibility to do what it takes to get people employed, and the state agency should pay for any scripting that will provide accessibility.

And if the state agency does not think that they should do that, I would go to a Client Assistance Program, which is the go-between for clients and the state agency.  If a state does not have a CAP program, then there should be a state ombudsman to contact.

But if the job would get someone off of SSDI, then they should be motivated to assist any way they can.

Glenn

 

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Richard:

 

So basically, what they, and other companies like them, are saying is: Tough cookies to you. We don’t care what the ADA says. Please forgive the pessimism.

Jerry

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

 

I have never been in a situation to personally have to enter anything in hospital charts.

I work at a rehabilitation agency, yes, but my job is dealing with adaptive devices outside of computers.

I work with the people that get to deal with hospitals when these situations come up.

Like Vicki said, it is really hard to get them to budge if it isn't a permanent job, and even then, it is extremely costly if it can be done.

First step is to talk with the I.T. folks or at least, their HR department, since this is an accommodation issue.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

I ran into this problem when doing my hospital internship. I was working with three different hospitals and none of them were willing to share with a third party. I was told that if it was a permanent work situation, maybe, but not for an internship.

 

The only solution I had was to get a reader who they approved, someone in the same program I was in, and have her enter into the charts whatever I told her. Not the ideal solution as her mistakes, if any, became my mistakes, but it was all I could do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Hello JAWS Users,

 

I am a totally blind JAWS user. I will be starting a hospital residency in August. A requirement of this residency is to write charting notes in the hospital’s Electronic Medical Records (EMR), through the hospital’s secure IntraNet. The charting software used by this hospital is Cerner/PowerChart. Does anybody know about the compatibility of this software with JAWS 18?

 

Thank you,

 

Kelsi Watters

Re: Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Richard Turner
 

I'm not going to continue with this thread as it is pointless.
If the employer refuses to allow the software, even if it won't cost them a dime, the agency can do nothing.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:

It is up to the state agency, if the person is a client, to approach the hospital and talk to their IT people and offer to hire someone to do scripting.
Glenn
 

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software


The sad reality is, assuming we are still talking about the hospital issue, is that no matter who is willing to pay for the scripting, if the hospital won't allow a third party software like Jaws on their client sensitive database, the only option is to either bring a law suit, or find another internship.
The State agency can bring all the standard arguments about the ADA, but if the organization says no, it will need either a law suit or contacting the Attorney General and that will take even longer. If the program is to start in 3 months, I doubt even if they were willing, scripting could be done by then.

It should not be this way, but it is.
I hope it gets worked out.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 24, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:

Yes.  That would be my first go to.  If this is a school project, make sure your school is involved with the jaunt to the state rehab agency. 

 

Justin

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

I sure would not recommend going to the employer as a first measure.

The rehab agency has a responsibility to do what it takes to get people employed, and the state agency should pay for any scripting that will provide accessibility.

And if the state agency does not think that they should do that, I would go to a Client Assistance Program, which is the go-between for clients and the state agency.  If a state does not have a CAP program, then there should be a state ombudsman to contact.

But if the job would get someone off of SSDI, then they should be motivated to assist any way they can.

Glenn

 

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Richard:

 

So basically, what they, and other companies like them, are saying is: Tough cookies to you. We don’t care what the ADA says. Please forgive the pessimism.

Jerry

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

 

I have never been in a situation to personally have to enter anything in hospital charts.

I work at a rehabilitation agency, yes, but my job is dealing with adaptive devices outside of computers.

I work with the people that get to deal with hospitals when these situations come up.

Like Vicki said, it is really hard to get them to budge if it isn't a permanent job, and even then, it is extremely costly if it can be done.

First step is to talk with the I.T. folks or at least, their HR department, since this is an accommodation issue.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

I ran into this problem when doing my hospital internship. I was working with three different hospitals and none of them were willing to share with a third party. I was told that if it was a permanent work situation, maybe, but not for an internship.

 

The only solution I had was to get a reader who they approved, someone in the same program I was in, and have her enter into the charts whatever I told her. Not the ideal solution as her mistakes, if any, became my mistakes, but it was all I could do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

 

Hello JAWS Users,

 

I am a totally blind JAWS user. I will be starting a hospital residency in August. A requirement of this residency is to write charting notes in the hospital’s Electronic Medical Records (EMR), through the hospital’s secure IntraNet. The charting software used by this hospital is Cerner/PowerChart. Does anybody know about the compatibility of this software with JAWS 18?

 

Thank you,

 

Kelsi Watters

Re: Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word

Mike Rogers
 

Thanks Brian. Appreciate the explanation.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:15:31 -0700
"Brian Lee" <brianllee@...> wrote:

Hello Mike,

First of all, if you turn off the display of grammatical errors in Word you
will not be able to use Word's feature of displaying incorrect grammar in a
document. The JAWS detection of the marked errors only points out the
places in the document marked with the blue underline by Word. Turning off
the JAWS detection does not turn off Word's displaying of grammatical
errors. However, it is the JAWS detection that doesn't stop when unchecked
in the Settings Center. Turning off the Word options affects the proofing
and the display of errors whereas the JAWS feature is just for whether or
not those errors should be detected by JAWS and spoken.

To access the proofing options in Word do the following:

1. Hold down Alt key, press F while the alt key is held down and then
release the Alt key. If you are used to the menu structure that is the same
keystroke used for going into a file menu. The Alt+F keystroke activates
the File button in later versions of Word.
2. After using the Alt with F keystroke use the letter T by itself. This
activates the Word Options menu item.
3. After pressing the letter T focus should go into a list of categories
for the Word options. At that point either press the letter P to select the
Proofing options or use down arrow key until you get to the Proofing
category.
4. Once you have selected the Proofing category by either pressing P or
using down arrow to it, you use the tab key to move from option to option
relevant to proofing.
Use the tab key (in Word 2013 you tab 12 times but it might vary in other
Word versions) until you find a checkbox labeled "Mark grammar errors as you
type." If JAWS says it is checked then use spacebar to uncheck it. If in
the future you want grammar errors marked by Word as you type in a document
then go back into the options and check the box.
5. After using the spacebar to uncheck the box use tab key a couple times
to find a checkbox labeled "Check Grammar with Spelling." If JAWS says it
is checked then use spacebar to remove the checkmark. If in the future you
want grammar to be checked with spelling then go back into the Proofing
options and check this box.
6. After using spacebar to remove the checkmark use tab key until you find
the OK button and use spacebar to activate the button.

The above steps are for stopping Word from marking grammatical errors with a
blue underline. If you want Word to display grammatical errors but not have
JAWS detect and speak them that is where the current problem with JAWS lies
as using the checkbox in the JAWS Settings Manager to stop the detection
doesn't seem to work, at least for Word 2013.

Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@...

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Mike Rogers
Sent: June 24, 2019 8:36 AM
To: Jaws Users List <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] Need mor help eliminating grammar announcement in word

I've tried going to word to stop the announcement," gram. error", but can't
find options. the file menu isn't like the ones before. Not good at
working with these changes. Help appreciated.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com








iTunes, jaws 2019 and iCloud

Holger Fiallo
 

OK. When I open iTunes and go alt f and down to library, I only see update genious and turn off genious. Before I saw update iCloud. I want to know how to get my music in iTunes to iCloud. Using current iTunes, windows 10 current, and jaws 2019. Help be nice.

Strange issues

Holger Fiallo
 

Well I was able to fix the problem with my friend email Thanks for help. Did I get help? I do not think. Maybe next time I will or a respond.

Re: ASCII COde, Please

JERRY MARTIN
 

Jm:
 
I also did some checking, via the wonderful world of the internet, and there is an alt code for the checkmark in MS Word 13. It is as follows:
 
Alt 10003.
Thanks for the alternative option, though.
 
 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] ASCII COde, Please
 

Hey jerry.

 

Your question caused me to do a little bit of research. Some symbols appear to be font dependent when it comes to standard character codes; it looks like the checkmark is one of them. In other words, you will not be able to get this in the standard way using an alt code in most fonts available in Microsoft Windows. It looks like the alt code is 0252, but in most fonts, this will show up as a u diaresis (sp) symbol.

There’s a neat, rather strange, way around this, which avoids having to use the symbols list or library in MS office. I tested this and it seems to work beautifully, but you may be a little bemused.

Try this method.

Go to where you want to insert the checkmark

Type in the numbers 2713 (this is a unicode value)

Now, select those numbers with your cursor.

Now type in alt-x.

The numbers will disappear and be replaced with a checkmark.

Like so

ADMIN: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

Let's bring this back to Jaws, and leave the bureaucracy and politics out of
it!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@groups.io

----- Original Message -----
From: <jyandt.martin@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software


Richard:

So basically, what they, and other companies like them, are saying is: Tough
cookies to you. We don’t care what the ADA says. Please forgive the
pessimism.
Jerry

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software


I have never been in a situation to personally have to enter anything in
hospital charts.
I work at a rehabilitation agency, yes, but my job is dealing with adaptive
devices outside of computers.
I work with the people that get to deal with hospitals when these situations
come up.
Like Vicki said, it is really hard to get them to budge if it isn't a
permanent job, and even then, it is extremely costly if it can be done.
First step is to talk with the I.T. folks or at least, their HR department,
since this is an accommodation issue.
Richard



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“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
have any." -- Alice Walker




On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:


I ran into this problem when doing my hospital internship. I was working
with three different hospitals and none of them were willing to share with a
third party. I was told that if it was a permanent work situation, maybe,
but not for an internship.

The only solution I had was to get a reader who they approved, someone in
the same program I was in, and have her enter into the charts whatever I
told her. Not the ideal solution as her mistakes, if any, became my
mistakes, but it was all I could do.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: kelsiwatters@...
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM
Subject: [jaws-users] Compatibility with Medical Charting Software

Hello JAWS Users,



I am a totally blind JAWS user. I will be starting a hospital residency
in August. A requirement of this residency is to write charting notes in the
hospital’s Electronic Medical Records (EMR), through the hospital’s secure
IntraNet. The charting software used by this hospital is Cerner/PowerChart.
Does anybody know about the compatibility of this software with JAWS 18?



Thank you,



Kelsi Watters

Re: Filling out an envelope

Rick Justice <ricjustice@...>
 

Hi Jerry,
I don't have any experience with that brand of printer,
so you can try one of the methods I described in my previous message, or try
consulting the user manual for your printer.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: <jyandt.martin@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope


Mr. Rick:

Can you tell me if this process works for a canon inkjet printer? Thanks.
Jerry


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 7:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope

Hi Ron,
I am using Word 2007 on Win7, and Jaws 2019 and the envelope wizard works
very well for printing envelopes.
Typically on HP ink jet printers,the envelope would go in
with the flap facing up and pointing to the right,
and on laser printers the flap would be facing down and pointing to the
right.
Where the envelope is positioned in the paper tray will depend on the model,
in my old HP, the envelope was positioned in the right side of the paper
tray oriented as mentioned above,
but in my newer printer, the paper has to be removed and the envelope guide
must be used to center the envelope in the paper tray.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope


Hey Judy, long time no talk or see, from Ron Kolesar Ham Radio Station
KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM
I have a HP all in one printer.
When I insert a envelope, which is almost never these days when ever
possible first.
I try to use a persons and or company’s e-mail address.
But do you place the envelope in length ways and if so, with the flap side
up and or down and to the let and or to the right?
Also, or do you place it with ways where the flap is going across instead of
up and down?
And the above questions apply to if the envelope is in length ways or with
ways.
Very Thankfully yours, A lost friend Ron Kolesar Ham Radio Station
KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM
Pennsylvania West County emergency Com-Tree Manager.

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 18:08
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope

Not unlike using a typewriter the way we used to back in the day. I
remember the spacing learned back then.



Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”




From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope



I have Word 2010, not 2016, so I don’t know if this will work for you.

If I want to print an envelope, I find it easiest to type the information in
a blank document. The return address goes at the top, not indented, then
the delivery address several lines below, again not indented.

When I go to the mailings tab and then to envelopes, everything is already
filled in, in the proper places. I have the envelope inserted into the
printer and all I have to do is tab until I get to print. Some printers
have an actual physical button to press to start the printer and sometimes
there’s a continue button on the screen which you may have to alt-tab to.
Someone may have to show you the first time just to make sure the envelope
is inserted as it should be and to make sure it printed properly.



From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope



I have found Microsoft doesn’t play nice with their mailings tab, and stick
with Avery all the way.



Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”





From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Kate Walsh
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope



Hi All,

I am using JAWS 2019 with the latest version, office 2016 and windows 10.

When I go to fill out an envelope, I pulled up a word document and than
pressed alt plus m for the mailings tab than e for envelopes.

It says divelery address so I typed in the persons name and than pressed
enter to type in the address but it doesn’t do anything.

I tried typing in their whole address and using the reading command but it
just says envelopes and labels.

Any suggestions on how I can fix this problem.

Thanks in advance.

Kate Walsh



In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM
Pennsylvania West County Emergency Com-Tree Manager

Re: How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown

Steve
 

Karen's Replicator

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Gouveia" <victor.gouveia@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown


Yes, it was, and it first appeared on the website where the lady died and David migrated her stuff over to the Jaws User's site. Now it's bugging me, as it was a great addition for the blind and screen readers in general. Sheepish Grin.

Victor

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown

Hi Victor,
I don't recall what it was right off,
was it available for XP and those versions of Jaws?

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Gouveia" <victor.gouveia@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown


Hi Rick,

No, I don't think so, it was something you could add on to your computer
that ran in the system tray, made sure all your windows were maximized, and
had special announcements that let you know various things.

I'm sure it'll come to me at some point. LOL.

Victor

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown

You may be thinking of Tweak UI.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Gouveia" <victor.gouveia@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown


Hi Mike,

No, I think David might remember this, but at the time it was on the Jaws
users page it wasn???t called Stascom, it was called by another name, as it
maximized windows, provided shut and start up sounds and a whole host of
other enhancements to the sound scheme.

It???s been a while, at least ten or more years-ago.

Victor

From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown

Hi Victor,

I learned about the Stascom Suite several months ago and just installed it
to try it out a couple of months ago. If it was introduced as far back as
XP I don't have a clue. If it's on the Jaws-Users website I don't have a
clue as to what it's called, but it's not under the, Utilities, heading as,
Stascom, or at least my search didn't find it using the Stascom name on the
Programs page.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Gouveia
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown


Hi Mike,

I just read the description of this program, and a great deal of the
information sounded familiar.

Did this utility used to go by a different name?

Perhaps in the old Windows XP days?

I also think David had it up on the website under Windows Utilities.

Am I correct?

Victor

From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 9:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown

Hi All,

As I mentioned earlier, try installing, Stascom, it'll let you know that
your computer is both starting and shutting down reliably. Note: Don't use
IE11 to access this link, but use any other browser. I couldn't get the
webpage to open using IE11.

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk
about it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Gouveia
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Start-up and Shutdown

Stanley, while the Jaws start message is mostly consistent, you???ll find
the
Jaws speech at Windows shut down is hit and miss.

I know this as I???ve been using Jaws since 4.5, about fifteen years now.

The only way I knew when Jaws was shutting down was when my computer shut
down and Windows XP did it???s chime thing.

Since then, what you described is hit and miss for me.

For example, I just saved a draft of this message, re-started my computer
and went back to the message, and I had no indication that my computer was
re-starting, nor that Jaws was shutting down save for my computer fan
whirring around in the background. That fan certainly is consistent,
certainly not the Jaws speech at Windows shut down.

Victor

From: Stanley Haupt via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] How to Have JAWS speech at Startup and Shutdown

Hello Everyone:



This is Stanley Haupt from Lehighton, PA. I have been using JAWS since
Window-Eyes was discontinued. I started with JAWS 18, JAWS 2018 and JAWS
2019.



On this list there has been some email discussion about having JAWS speak
when starting and turning off your computer. I have the box check to start
JAWS at the Log-in screen. The start JAWS box for all users is not checked.
The final step is to run JAWS for this user always.



It takes my computer fifteen seconds to start. JAWS says JAWS Professional.



When I do Alt-f4 to shut down JAWS says JAWS for Windows. That message
let???s
me know that the computer has shutdown properly.



I am the only one in the household who uses the computer.