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Re: Getting Ride of "grammatical error" in word

Larry Volk
 

There is a switch in setting center that allows you to turn off misspelled
words and grammatical error messages but it didn't stop the messages when I
used the arrow keys to go up/down line at a time. I had to go into the word
options and turned off the automatic spelling and grammar while typing.

Alt+f, (file)
Press the letter T for options
Go down to proofing
Then tab across until you hear 'check spelling while you type' uncheck this
Tab twice more until you hear 'correct grammar while you type' uncheck this
Tab to ok

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Mike Rogers
Sent: June 21, 2019 11:39 AM
To: Jaws Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Getting Ride of "gramatical error" in word

How do I stop jaws from saying "Gramatical error" all the time, when reading
documents? Just started with last update of Jaws.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com


Re: how to remove avast

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

The Avast removal tool used to be accessible, but the last 2 times I tried to use it, it didn't work like it did in the past.  I needed for my wife to do the removal for me.  Below are the steps for when it was accessible if you want to try them.  Read the steps thoroughly first.  Also, below is the direct download link for the tool.
 
 
1. Press enter on the, AvastClear, .EXE file.
2. You will get the following message:
 
Avast Antivirus Clear
It is recommended to run this tool from Windows Safe Mode.
Do you want to do that?
Press "Yes" to reboot into Safe Mode now and run this tool
from there.
Press "No" to continue running this tool as it is (not
recommended).
Yes No
3. Tab to the, No button, & press enter or spacebar.  Now press the spacebar on the, Uninstall button, to start the uninstall process as Administrator.  After Avast is uninstalled you should get a prompt to restart the computer.  When the computer reboots you can check to see if any remnants of the program are left behind.  The 1 time I used this removal tool the only remnant I found left behind was an Avast folder in the Program Files, & Program Data folders on the root of the C drive, but I did not check the registry.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----
From: cecropia64
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] how to remove avast

really?? i tried several times and it just sat there doing nothing.? i
had to have a sighted person remove it for me.? next time i try i will
go into safe mode first and see what happens.


stew

On 6/21/2019 1:27 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> Avast has a removal tool, you are supposed to run the tool in safe mode.
>
> When avast was on my computer I ran the tool anyway and it removed Avast.
>
> I am just sharing what I did.
>
> In safee mode there is know speech.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> *From:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> *On
> Behalf Of *Dennis L
> *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2019 11:31 AM
> *To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io
> *Subject:* [jaws-users] how to remove avast
>
> Hi, Avast got installed along with CCleaner how do I remove the
> thing?? Help is appreciated.
>
>



Re: how to remove avast

Glenn / Lenny
 

There is a registry patch for 7 and XP to have audio in safe mode, and I have heard that 10 gives audio in safe mode.
I have had a video error from Jaws in safe mode, but it still works for the basic things.
 
Glenn

From: cecropia64
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] how to remove avast

really?? i tried several times and it just sat there doing nothing.? i
had to have a sighted person remove it for me.? next time i try i will
go into safe mode first and see what happens.


stew

On 6/21/2019 1:27 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> Avast has a removal tool, you are supposed to run the tool in safe mode.
>
> When avast was on my computer I ran the tool anyway and it removed Avast.
>
> I am just sharing what I did.
>
> In safee mode there is know speech.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> *From:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> *On
> Behalf Of *Dennis L
> *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2019 11:31 AM
> *To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io
> *Subject:* [jaws-users] how to remove avast
>
> Hi, Avast got installed along with CCleaner how do I remove the
> thing?? Help is appreciated.
>
>



Re: how to remove avast

cecropia64
 

really?? i tried several times and it just sat there doing nothing.? i had to have a sighted person remove it for me.? next time i try i will go into safe mode first and see what happens.


stew

On 6/21/2019 1:27 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

Avast has a removal tool, you are supposed to run the tool in safe mode.

When avast was on my computer I ran the tool anyway and it removed Avast.

I am just sharing what I did.

In safee mode there is know speech.

Have a good day.

*From:* jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Dennis L
*Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2019 11:31 AM
*To:* jaws-users-list@groups.io
*Subject:* [jaws-users] how to remove avast

Hi, Avast got installed along with CCleaner how do I remove the thing?? Help is appreciated.


Re: Printing An Envelope, Microsoft Says

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

I’m going to use the optacon to check my work.

 

I was thinking you were saying to created the addresses in the original word doc, then bring up the mailer tab, and the addresses would automatically be positioned correctly.

 

Before, I’ve tried bringing up the mailer tab first, then typing in the addresses but never got that to work, same with trying to create a sheet of labels.  That’s why I gave up and started downloading what I needed from Avery.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 5:43 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [jaws-users] Printing An Envelope, Microsoft Says

 

The trick to printing an envelope is knowing which way to feed the envelope into your printer. Word gets information from your printer and shows you the

right feed option.

 

list of 3 items

1. Go to Mailings > Envelopes, and enter delivery and return addresses.

 

2. Place the blank envelope in the printer tray, according to the diagram in the Feed box.

 

3. Select Print.

list end

So obviously if your printer is new, you may have to have sighted assistance to see how the envelope should be inserted.  My HP has a dedicated envelope tray.  The envelope goes in flap-side down and on the left.  After that and especially if you’re using a standard envelope, 4 X 10 I think it is, Word should be able to print it properly without doing anything else.  There is an options button if you keep tabbing and a combo box to choose another size.  Some printers have a dedicated button to print the envelope after you’ve pressed the print button.  Others don’t and you may have a continue button in a dialog box that appears on the screen.  Depending on what has focus, you may have to alt-tab to get to it.  I haven’t done it in a while, but I think just pressing alt-c worked.  You may have to play with it to see how yours works.   

 

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 


Getting Ride of "gramatical error" in word

Mike Rogers
 

How do I stop jaws from saying "Gramatical error" all the time, when reading documents? Just started with last update of Jaws.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com


Re: Filling out an envelope

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Hi, Ron, this is Judy.

 

Very sorry, but I am not remembering you from other than the e-mail lists.  I am from out west, originally Colorado Springs.

 

I was a “ham” a long time ago with WN0CGG while I was growing up, but we moved overseas with my Air Force father, and I had to give it up, as we lived in West Germany’s buffer zone.

 

Regarding the envelope, it will depend on your printer instructions, but I am guessing that the envelope would go in on the top of the printer tray lid, just inside those adjustable pieces.  It will probably go flap down and guessing again, lengthwise.

 

You’ll have to give it a try.  I am going to do the same, just for fun, haven’t tried it with our new laser printer.  I usually type all our envelopes.

 

Even at work, no one learned how to use our fancy-dancy printer/faxer/copier to do envelopes, and we all just typed them on our office’s IBM Selectric 2.

 

None of us ever thought of trying Becky’s idea of typing in a word doc first, and letting the mailings tab place the addresses properly.  None of us knew to do that. 

 

I should employ her technique also when creating labels.  We all just pulled up the mailings tab, then typed in the information, and it never worked.  I gave up and started downloading from Avery.

 

Thanks Becky!

 

Hope this works for you, Ron, and let us know how it goes.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope

 

Hey Judy, long time no talk or see, from Ron Kolesar Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM

I have a HP all in one printer.

When I insert a envelope, which is almost never these days when ever possible first.

I try to use a persons and or company’s e-mail address.

But do you place the envelope in length ways and if so, with the flap side up and or down and to the let and or to the right?

Also, or do you place it with ways where the flap is going across instead of up and down?

And the above questions apply to if the envelope is in length ways or with ways.

Very Thankfully yours, A lost friend Ron Kolesar Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM

Pennsylvania West County emergency Com-Tree Manager.

 

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 18:08

To: jaws-users-list@groups.io

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope

 

Not unlike using a typewriter the way we used to back in the day.  I remember the spacing learned back then.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope

 

I have Word 2010, not 2016, so I don’t know if this will work for you. 

If I want to print an envelope, I find it easiest to type the information in a blank document.  The return address goes at the top, not indented, then the delivery address several lines below, again not indented.

When I go to the mailings tab and then to envelopes, everything is already filled in, in the proper places.  I have the envelope inserted into the printer and all I have to do is tab until I get to print.  Some printers have an actual physical button to press to start the printer and sometimes there’s a continue button on the screen which you may have to alt-tab to.  Someone may have to show you the first time just to make sure the envelope is inserted as it should be and to make sure it printed properly.   

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope

 

I have found Microsoft doesn’t play nice with their mailings tab, and stick with Avery all the way.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kate Walsh
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Filling out an envelope

 

Hi All,

I am using JAWS 2019 with the latest version, office 2016 and windows 10.

When I go to fill out an envelope, I pulled up a word document and than pressed alt plus m for the mailings tab than e for envelopes.

It says divelery address so I typed in the persons name and than pressed enter to type in the address but it doesn’t do anything.

I tried typing in their whole address and using the reading command but it just says envelopes and labels.

Any suggestions on how I can fix this problem.

Thanks in advance.

Kate Walsh 

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG-PA-WCECTM
Pennsylvania West County Emergency Com-Tree Manager


Re: how to remove avast

Nino Dagostino
 

Hi:

 

Avast has a removal tool, you are supposed to run the tool in safe mode.

When avast was on my computer I ran the tool anyway and it removed Avast.

I am just sharing what I did.

In safee mode there is know speech.

Have a good day.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] how to remove avast

 

Hi, Avast got installed along with CCleaner how do I remove the thing?  Help is appreciated.


Re: question downloading Office 365

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

I had some of the same thoughts when I purchased 365. They say it is best to uninstall your previous version of office, so I called Microsoft accessibility, let them tandem in and do the the whole process. I have had no problems.
Marie
 
 

From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] question downloading Office 365
 

I currently have an old copy of Office 2010 that I installed from a CD.  I’m thinking of moving to the subscription to Office 365.  I’ve heard a couple of you mentioned cloud based office products.  If I purchase the Office 365 subscription from the Microsoft store, is it a given that I can download local copies of the Office products to run on my computer?  I’m just a bit confused on this aspect.  It seems that JAWS runs better and I’m certainly more comfortable with having local copies of Office.  Is there a reason people wouldn’t install it locally? 

 

Running Win10 and latest JAWS 2019.

 

Robin

 

 



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Re: JAWS Shutdown Sound

Glenn / Lenny
 

Good call Mike, I didn't even think of that.
But since I had to rebuild my system, I haven't gotten around to reinstalling Stascom.
Glenn

From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

Hi Gerald,
 
Another program that you could run is, Stascom.  It will tell you when the computer is starting and shutting down amongst many other features.  One of its features is Maximizing targeted windows.
 
From: Richard Turner
Program features
list of 18 items
• Battery status on laptops is reported automatically while disconnected from charger,  while charging, or both. The notification intervals  are configured
in the Configuration Manager. As can be expected, this feature and associated  options  are hidden on desktop computers;
• Contact Manager, including  yearly customisable audio and text birthday reminders for listed contacts. Alert options are either audio and text, text
only, or disabled. If set to audio and text, the audio alert will be repeated after 15 minutes (by default), if a reminder is not acknowledged. The interval
can be changed to  half hourly, hourly, or disabled in Configuration Manager. This module is mainly for the benefit of users who do not have access to
a smartphone, or possibly those who prefer the flexibility and simplicity of the Stascom alternative. The current version does not feature importing contacts
from an external file source such as csv;
• Reminder Manager with audio and text alerts, with optional repetitions on a future date. Audio alert sound can be changed if desired. The same customisable
options as with birthday reminders, are available. See above;
• Calculate day of the week for any date between 1 January 1601 and 31 December 9999;
• Maximises application windows automatically. Window title exceptions can be specified ;
• Prevents mute status on default sound card automatically. Recovery volume is configurable;
• Low volume correction on default sound card (disabled by default). Minimum and normalise levels are configurable;
• Two schedules and output percentage for automatic volume adjustment can be specified (disabled by default);
• Password Generator, creating a unique, very strong 10 character password with each keystroke. Generated password can be copied to clipboard optionally;
 
• Time announcements on the hour,  half hour and  quarter hour. Individual hours can be specified, or disabled altogether.  Custom audio chimes are optional
if preferred over the included sound clips;
• Accented and other special characters  can be easily inserted with hot keys;
• Alphabetical list of 51 Windows applications and settings quickly accesseible with a hot key;
• master volume level increased / decreased   by 5% with hot keys, ascending / descending tones to indicate the volume adjustment;
• Word count for selected text in commonly used editors and browsers, with an option to place the result on the Windows clipboard. This feature is not
supported in some editors and e-mail clients with non-standard cursors. The results are more accurate than in most similar packages, as it ignores all
punctuation and special characters;
• Program configuration can be reset to installation defaults;
• Report generator, providing a summary of program settings and system information in HTML format for easy navigation;
• Choice of three sets of modifier keys to use with Stascom hotkeys. A bypass key suspends Stascom hotkeys for five seconds. Should the user wish to disable
the home row 1 to 0 hotkeys altogether, this can be done under the general category in Configuration Manager. If these keys are disabled, all options can
still be accessed through the program dashboard, activated with modifier+backslash.

list end
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

Hi Richard,
 
Rather than speculating, have you tried going to the website and reading about how it works?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

So, you trust this person to change your registry for you.

Other than changing Windows 10  registry, I don’t know how this software would reveal hidden settings.

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

 

Hi All,

 

Take a look at this little program, Winaero Tweaker.  It can do many tweaks without adding anything to your computer.  It takes hidden settings that are there by default and either enables or disables them and explains exactly what the tweak does if you click on the provided link.

 


 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:06 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

 

I thank you although it doesn't bother me that they are no longer there, the
fact that I can put them back sounds like a challenge I would like to take.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

According to this How To Geek article, you have to now edit the registry to
get the exit windows sound back.
Up to you if you want to do this, but this is the link to the article I
found:
https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/

Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:09 AM
To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound


One of the most annoying things about running Windows 10 is that there is no
shutdown sound to indicate that your computer has shut down like in previous
versions of Windows.?? The only reliable way to determine for sure that your
computer has shut down completely is to listen for the internal cooling fan
to stop spinning, which is not always possible, especially with a laptop
whose internal fan may emit little or no noise.?? But the next best thing
would be to have JAWS issue a shutdown sound whenever you close it manually
or you shut down your computer.?? Is there any way to assign a shutdown
sound to JAWS??? That other unmentionable screen reader has a shutdown
sound, so I don't see any reason why JAWS couldn't have one, also.


Gerald













Re: JAWS Shutdown Sound

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Gerald,
 
Another program that you could run is, Stascom.  It will tell you when the computer is starting and shutting down amongst many other features.  One of its features is Maximizing targeted windows.
 
From: Richard Turner
Program features
list of 18 items
• Battery status on laptops is reported automatically while disconnected from charger,  while charging, or both. The notification intervals  are configured
in the Configuration Manager. As can be expected, this feature and associated  options  are hidden on desktop computers;
• Contact Manager, including  yearly customisable audio and text birthday reminders for listed contacts. Alert options are either audio and text, text
only, or disabled. If set to audio and text, the audio alert will be repeated after 15 minutes (by default), if a reminder is not acknowledged. The interval
can be changed to  half hourly, hourly, or disabled in Configuration Manager. This module is mainly for the benefit of users who do not have access to
a smartphone, or possibly those who prefer the flexibility and simplicity of the Stascom alternative. The current version does not feature importing contacts
from an external file source such as csv;
• Reminder Manager with audio and text alerts, with optional repetitions on a future date. Audio alert sound can be changed if desired. The same customisable
options as with birthday reminders, are available. See above;
• Calculate day of the week for any date between 1 January 1601 and 31 December 9999;
• Maximises application windows automatically. Window title exceptions can be specified ;
• Prevents mute status on default sound card automatically. Recovery volume is configurable;
• Low volume correction on default sound card (disabled by default). Minimum and normalise levels are configurable;
• Two schedules and output percentage for automatic volume adjustment can be specified (disabled by default);
• Password Generator, creating a unique, very strong 10 character password with each keystroke. Generated password can be copied to clipboard optionally;
 
• Time announcements on the hour,  half hour and  quarter hour. Individual hours can be specified, or disabled altogether.  Custom audio chimes are optional
if preferred over the included sound clips;
• Accented and other special characters  can be easily inserted with hot keys;
• Alphabetical list of 51 Windows applications and settings quickly accesseible with a hot key;
• master volume level increased / decreased   by 5% with hot keys, ascending / descending tones to indicate the volume adjustment;
• Word count for selected text in commonly used editors and browsers, with an option to place the result on the Windows clipboard. This feature is not
supported in some editors and e-mail clients with non-standard cursors. The results are more accurate than in most similar packages, as it ignores all
punctuation and special characters;
• Program configuration can be reset to installation defaults;
• Report generator, providing a summary of program settings and system information in HTML format for easy navigation;
• Choice of three sets of modifier keys to use with Stascom hotkeys. A bypass key suspends Stascom hotkeys for five seconds. Should the user wish to disable
the home row 1 to 0 hotkeys altogether, this can be done under the general category in Configuration Manager. If these keys are disabled, all options can
still be accessed through the program dashboard, activated with modifier+backslash.

list end
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

Hi Richard,
 
Rather than speculating, have you tried going to the website and reading about how it works?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

So, you trust this person to change your registry for you.

Other than changing Windows 10  registry, I don’t know how this software would reveal hidden settings.

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

 

Hi All,

 

Take a look at this little program, Winaero Tweaker.  It can do many tweaks without adding anything to your computer.  It takes hidden settings that are there by default and either enables or disables them and explains exactly what the tweak does if you click on the provided link.

 


 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:06 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

 

I thank you although it doesn't bother me that they are no longer there, the
fact that I can put them back sounds like a challenge I would like to take.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

According to this How To Geek article, you have to now edit the registry to
get the exit windows sound back.
Up to you if you want to do this, but this is the link to the article I
found:
https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/

Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:09 AM
To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound


One of the most annoying things about running Windows 10 is that there is no
shutdown sound to indicate that your computer has shut down like in previous
versions of Windows.?? The only reliable way to determine for sure that your
computer has shut down completely is to listen for the internal cooling fan
to stop spinning, which is not always possible, especially with a laptop
whose internal fan may emit little or no noise.?? But the next best thing
would be to have JAWS issue a shutdown sound whenever you close it manually
or you shut down your computer.?? Is there any way to assign a shutdown
sound to JAWS??? That other unmentionable screen reader has a shutdown
sound, so I don't see any reason why JAWS couldn't have one, also.


Gerald













Re: JAWS Shutdown Sound

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Richard,
 
Rather than speculating, have you tried going to the website and reading about how it works?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

So, you trust this person to change your registry for you.

Other than changing Windows 10  registry, I don’t know how this software would reveal hidden settings.

 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

 

Hi All,

 

Take a look at this little program, Winaero Tweaker.  It can do many tweaks without adding anything to your computer.  It takes hidden settings that are there by default and either enables or disables them and explains exactly what the tweak does if you click on the provided link.

 


 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
No one has more to say than the woman who says she doesn't want to talk about it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:06 AM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

 

I thank you although it doesn't bother me that they are no longer there, the
fact that I can put them back sounds like a challenge I would like to take.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

According to this How To Geek article, you have to now edit the registry to
get the exit windows sound back.
Up to you if you want to do this, but this is the link to the article I
found:
https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/

Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:09 AM
To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound


One of the most annoying things about running Windows 10 is that there is no
shutdown sound to indicate that your computer has shut down like in previous
versions of Windows.?? The only reliable way to determine for sure that your
computer has shut down completely is to listen for the internal cooling fan
to stop spinning, which is not always possible, especially with a laptop
whose internal fan may emit little or no noise.?? But the next best thing
would be to have JAWS issue a shutdown sound whenever you close it manually
or you shut down your computer.?? Is there any way to assign a shutdown
sound to JAWS??? That other unmentionable screen reader has a shutdown
sound, so I don't see any reason why JAWS couldn't have one, also.


Gerald













Re: JAWS Shutdown Sound

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 


Two thoughts, those of you who did the registry fix, did you then assign a sound in your sound scheme?
Do you have fast startup checked? That may nullify the sound settings.
Those comparing other screen readers exit sounds with Jaws, as Rick I think it was, pointed out, Jaws says something about exiting since the screen reader is dumped before the system finishes shutting down.
I have had situations where something else was blocking shut down, so even if Jaws or anything else had a sound, it wouldn't have helped.
Hence my method of checking the CD drive, or if no CD drive, then plugging in a usb device might get a sound.
The bottom line here is that only Freedom Scientific can say if a shut down sound can be added via script, or anything else.
Just my opinion.
Later
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


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On Jun 21, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited@...> wrote:


Exactly.?? So if a shutdown or unloading sound can be incorporated into this alternate screen reader, I see no technical reason why JAWS couldn't include one, also.


Gerald



On 6/21/2019 11:21 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
When I shut down the computer with NVDA running, I hear the NVDA unload sound, and if I did not exit NVDA, that means the computer is shutting down.
Glenn

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

Hi Gerald,
You are making a comparison of the operating system versus an application.
Jaws and Openbook are both applications,and if neither are running at the
time Windows shuts
down, you would still not have any indication that Windows is doing so.
So, adding a shutdown sound to Jaws would not be a reliable indicator.
On my systems, when I execute a shutdown command , Jaws notifies me that
Windows is shutting down and I am about to be logged out.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy via Groups.Io" <bwaylimited@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound



No, no!?? There's no way I'm hacking the registry just to get a shutdown
sound.?? This isn't rocket science.?? If Open Book can have a shutdown
sound, there is no reason why JAWS can't, either.


Gerald



On 6/21/2019 8:13 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> According to this How To Geek article, you have to now edit the registry
> to get the exit windows sound back.
> Up to you if you want to do this, but this is the link to the article I
> found:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/
>
> Richard
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> ???The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.?? There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:09 AM
> To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound
>
>
> One of the most annoying things about running Windows 10 is that there is
> no shutdown sound to indicate that your computer has shut down like in
> previous versions of Windows.?? The only reliable way to determine for
> sure that your computer has shut down completely is to listen for the
> internal cooling fan to stop spinning, which is not always possible,
> especially with a laptop whose internal fan may emit little or no noise.??
> But the next best thing would be to have JAWS issue a shutdown sound
> whenever you close it manually or you shut down your computer.?? Is there
> any way to assign a shutdown sound to JAWS??? That other unmentionable
> screen reader has a shutdown sound, so I don't see any reason why JAWS
> couldn't have one, also.
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: question downloading Office 365

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 


It should allow you to download a copy rather than just using the cloud.
I'd call Microsoft to make sure, but I have it on both my wife's and my computer; but I started the subscription a couple years ago and it certainly was a download and install deal then.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 21, 2019, at 8:23 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:

I currently have an old copy of Office 2010 that I installed from a CD.  I’m thinking of moving to the subscription to Office 365.  I’ve heard a couple of you mentioned cloud based office products.  If I purchase the Office 365 subscription from the Microsoft store, is it a given that I can download local copies of the Office products to run on my computer?  I’m just a bit confused on this aspect.  It seems that JAWS runs better and I’m certainly more comfortable with having local copies of Office.  Is there a reason people wouldn’t install it locally? 

 

Running Win10 and latest JAWS 2019.

 

Robin

 

 



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Re: question downloading Office 365

Holger Fiallo
 

Yes. You can downloaded to your PC. I did so. I use office in my PC instead the web.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] question downloading Office 365

 

I currently have an old copy of Office 2010 that I installed from a CD.  I’m thinking of moving to the subscription to Office 365.  I’ve heard a couple of you mentioned cloud based office products.  If I purchase the Office 365 subscription from the Microsoft store, is it a given that I can download local copies of the Office products to run on my computer?  I’m just a bit confused on this aspect.  It seems that JAWS runs better and I’m certainly more comfortable with having local copies of Office.  Is there a reason people wouldn’t install it locally? 

 

Running Win10 and latest JAWS 2019.

 

Robin

 

 



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Re: JAWS Shutdown Sound

Gerald Levy
 


Exactly.?? So if a shutdown or unloading sound can be incorporated into this alternate screen reader, I see no technical reason why JAWS couldn't include one, also.


Gerald



On 6/21/2019 11:21 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
When I shut down the computer with NVDA running, I hear the NVDA unload sound, and if I did not exit NVDA, that means the computer is shutting down.
Glenn

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

Hi Gerald,
You are making a comparison of the operating system versus an application.
Jaws and Openbook are both applications,and if neither are running at the
time Windows shuts
down, you would still not have any indication that Windows is doing so.
So, adding a shutdown sound to Jaws would not be a reliable indicator.
On my systems, when I execute a shutdown command , Jaws notifies me that
Windows is shutting down and I am about to be logged out.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy via Groups.Io" <bwaylimited@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound



No, no!?? There's no way I'm hacking the registry just to get a shutdown
sound.?? This isn't rocket science.?? If Open Book can have a shutdown
sound, there is no reason why JAWS can't, either.


Gerald



On 6/21/2019 8:13 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> According to this How To Geek article, you have to now edit the registry
> to get the exit windows sound back.
> Up to you if you want to do this, but this is the link to the article I
> found:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/
>
> Richard
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> ???The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.?? There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:09 AM
> To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound
>
>
> One of the most annoying things about running Windows 10 is that there is
> no shutdown sound to indicate that your computer has shut down like in
> previous versions of Windows.?? The only reliable way to determine for
> sure that your computer has shut down completely is to listen for the
> internal cooling fan to stop spinning, which is not always possible,
> especially with a laptop whose internal fan may emit little or no noise.??
> But the next best thing would be to have JAWS issue a shutdown sound
> whenever you close it manually or you shut down your computer.?? Is there
> any way to assign a shutdown sound to JAWS??? That other unmentionable
> screen reader has a shutdown sound, so I don't see any reason why JAWS
> couldn't have one, also.
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






how to remove avast

Dennis L
 

Hi, Avast got installed along with CCleaner how do I remove the thing?  Help is appreciated.


Re: JAWS Shutdown Sound

Dennis L
 

I tried as well and no go.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

Once you enable it you have to assign what sound you wish to use. It seems to work so far for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Loy
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

I tried it and still no shut down sound.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound


According to this How To Geek article, you have to now edit the registry
to get the exit windows sound back.
Up to you if you want to do this, but this is the link to the article I
found:
https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/

Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:09 AM
To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound


One of the most annoying things about running Windows 10 is that there is
no shutdown sound to indicate that your computer has shut down like in
previous versions of Windows.?? The only reliable way to determine for
sure that your computer has shut down completely is to listen for the
internal cooling fan to stop spinning, which is not always possible,
especially with a laptop whose internal fan may emit little or no noise.??
But the next best thing would be to have JAWS issue a shutdown sound
whenever you close it manually or you shut down your computer.?? Is there
any way to assign a shutdown sound to JAWS??? That other unmentionable
screen reader has a shutdown sound, so I don't see any reason why JAWS
couldn't have one, also.


Gerald










question downloading Office 365

Van Lant, Robin
 

I currently have an old copy of Office 2010 that I installed from a CD.  I’m thinking of moving to the subscription to Office 365.  I’ve heard a couple of you mentioned cloud based office products.  If I purchase the Office 365 subscription from the Microsoft store, is it a given that I can download local copies of the Office products to run on my computer?  I’m just a bit confused on this aspect.  It seems that JAWS runs better and I’m certainly more comfortable with having local copies of Office.  Is there a reason people wouldn’t install it locally? 

 

Running Win10 and latest JAWS 2019.

 

Robin

 

 



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Re: JAWS Shutdown Sound

Glenn / Lenny
 

When I shut down the computer with NVDA running, I hear the NVDA unload sound, and if I did not exit NVDA, that means the computer is shutting down.
Glenn

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound

Hi Gerald,
You are making a comparison of the operating system versus an application.
Jaws and Openbook are both applications,and if neither are running at the
time Windows shuts
down, you would still not have any indication that Windows is doing so.
So, adding a shutdown sound to Jaws would not be a reliable indicator.
On my systems, when I execute a shutdown command , Jaws notifies me that
Windows is shutting down and I am about to be logged out.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy via Groups.Io" <bwaylimited@...>
To: <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound



No, no!?? There's no way I'm hacking the registry just to get a shutdown
sound.?? This isn't rocket science.?? If Open Book can have a shutdown
sound, there is no reason why JAWS can't, either.


Gerald



On 6/21/2019 8:13 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> According to this How To Geek article, you have to now edit the registry
> to get the exit windows sound back.
> Up to you if you want to do this, but this is the link to the article I
> found:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/274010/how-to-change-the-windows-10-logoff-logon-and-shutdown-sounds-in-windows-10/
>
> Richard
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> ???The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:09 AM
> To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
> Subject: [jaws-users] JAWS Shutdown Sound
>
>
> One of the most annoying things about running Windows 10 is that there is
> no shutdown sound to indicate that your computer has shut down like in
> previous versions of Windows.?? The only reliable way to determine for
> sure that your computer has shut down completely is to listen for the
> internal cooling fan to stop spinning, which is not always possible,
> especially with a laptop whose internal fan may emit little or no noise.??
> But the next best thing would be to have JAWS issue a shutdown sound
> whenever you close it manually or you shut down your computer.?? Is there
> any way to assign a shutdown sound to JAWS??? That other unmentionable
> screen reader has a shutdown sound, so I don't see any reason why JAWS
> couldn't have one, also.
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





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