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Re: File counting with JAWS

Rebecca Lineberger
 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

Reed Poynter
 

It doesn’t matter what your view is, JAWS should always show the correct count.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

JM Casey
 

I don’t know why jAWS doesn’t always give a correct count of items in a list view, but, still, hitting alt-enter on a folder does seem like a better compromise than loading and then unloading narrator to get what you want.

Just my opinion, of course. J…then again, I use this properties keystroke all the time for various purposes, so it’s second-nature to me by now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

JM Casey
 

It doesn’t, though; I’ve experienced this too, just never really given it much thought til now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 11:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t matter what your view is, JAWS should always show the correct count.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

Reed Poynter
 

I guess I should correct my earlier comment...

 

I’m not always looking for the file count.  So, it might be showing the incorrect count most of the time for all I know.  But, I have never seen an incorrect count when I’ve looked.

In any event, It should be fixed.  I think “They” are seeing these notes and will have a fix soon.  How’s that for optimism?

 

Reed

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: May 15, 2019 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t, though; I’ve experienced this too, just never really given it much thought til now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 11:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t matter what your view is, JAWS should always show the correct count.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

audio ducking,

John R Vaughn
 

List, I am running latest windows 10, IE 11  and Jaws 2019.

I have two almost identical Toshiba lap tops running intel Core 5 processor and 8 megs of ram.

My newer computer, has stopped “ducking” other audio, despite pressing the insert key plus spacebar and the letter D as in duck. And hearing jaws say duck other audio. The other laptop is doing duck other audio just fine.

Is there some other setting I am missing? 

John

Re: File counting with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Well yes,s ame here. If I want one, I would rather get it from windows itself using the folder properties box. I’d trust Windows to keep better track of this stuff than I would a screen-reader. Remember too that when we expect an accurate count from jAWS in a very large list, most of that list is actually not even shown on screen.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I guess I should correct my earlier comment...

 

I’m not always looking for the file count.  So, it might be showing the incorrect count most of the time for all I know.  But, I have never seen an incorrect count when I’ve looked.

In any event, It should be fixed.  I think “They” are seeing these notes and will have a fix soon.  How’s that for optimism?

 

Reed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: May 15, 2019 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t, though; I’ve experienced this too, just never really given it much thought til now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 11:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t matter what your view is, JAWS should always show the correct count.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Guys…

I had a feeling about this but couldn’t quite remember, so I just confirmed – in file explorer, your total items count within folders should be displayed on the status line.

So just press insert + pgdn and you should hear it.

For example, in my i:\films folder at the moment, I hear the following

“1003 items, 1 item selected”.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: May 15, 2019 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Well yes,s ame here. If I want one, I would rather get it from windows itself using the folder properties box. I’d trust Windows to keep better track of this stuff than I would a screen-reader. Remember too that when we expect an accurate count from jAWS in a very large list, most of that list is actually not even shown on screen.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I guess I should correct my earlier comment...

 

I’m not always looking for the file count.  So, it might be showing the incorrect count most of the time for all I know.  But, I have never seen an incorrect count when I’ve looked.

In any event, It should be fixed.  I think “They” are seeing these notes and will have a fix soon.  How’s that for optimism?

 

Reed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: May 15, 2019 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t, though; I’ve experienced this too, just never really given it much thought til now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 11:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t matter what your view is, JAWS should always show the correct count.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

Chris
 

Hello all,

 

Many thanks for your input, but as usual, today I have not got the problem no  matter which file or drive I have used. Is that just Murphy’s Law, or some thing like it. I will keep the suggestions, in a file for future reference.

 

Once again, thanks for all your help

 

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> on behalf of JM Casey <jmcasey@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:51:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS
 

Well yes,s ame here. If I want one, I would rather get it from windows itself using the folder properties box. I’d trust Windows to keep better track of this stuff than I would a screen-reader. Remember too that when we expect an accurate count from jAWS in a very large list, most of that list is actually not even shown on screen.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I guess I should correct my earlier comment...

 

I’m not always looking for the file count.  So, it might be showing the incorrect count most of the time for all I know.  But, I have never seen an incorrect count when I’ve looked.

In any event, It should be fixed.  I think “They” are seeing these notes and will have a fix soon.  How’s that for optimism?

 

Reed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: May 15, 2019 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t, though; I’ve experienced this too, just never really given it much thought til now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 11:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t matter what your view is, JAWS should always show the correct count.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: converting MP3

Steve
 


Looks interesting, I am just going to start exploring it.
 
Are there any needed changes to make it work well with Jaws?
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] converting MP3


There’s a better audio converter it’s called media human if you go to media human.com you’ll find it

On May 14, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Kevin <kleeva5@...> wrote:

Yeah but everytime you launch it, it buggs you to get the premium version!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Steve
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] converting MP3

I use Free Youtube-to-Mp3 converter from Videosoft.  It is an accessible program, and in the advanced options section is a checkbox to make it "screen-reader" friendly.

Steve

----- Original Message -----

From: patti

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:20 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] converting MP3

Hey Gang,

I’m trying to convert a song from YouTube to a mp3.

What website page is good for this?

Thanks for your help.

Patti

Re: converting MP3

Mitchell
 

No the program is 100% accessible email me if you need any assistance with it


On May 15, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Steve <hamsteve64@...> wrote:

Looks interesting, I am just going to start exploring it.
 
Are there any needed changes to make it work well with Jaws?
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] converting MP3


There’s a better audio converter it’s called media human if you go to media human.com you’ll find it

On May 14, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Kevin <kleeva5@...> wrote:

Yeah but everytime you launch it, it buggs you to get the premium version!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Steve
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] converting MP3

I use Free Youtube-to-Mp3 converter from Videosoft.  It is an accessible program, and in the advanced options section is a checkbox to make it "screen-reader" friendly.

Steve

----- Original Message -----

From: patti

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:20 AM

Subject: [jaws-users] converting MP3

Hey Gang,

I’m trying to convert a song from YouTube to a mp3.

What website page is good for this?

Thanks for your help.

Patti

Using A Scanner

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi,
Using Windows 7 64 and latest Jaws.
I have Open Book installed, but it is not recognizing my Canon Scanner.
It is an N650U.
I tried to find drivers at Canon.com, but they said that there are no drivers for my OS, that they are not needed.
I looked in control panel scanners and cameras, and it shows up there.
So I'm wondering, Does the latest Jaws have the ability to utilize a scanner to do OCR?
I know I could probably use another program to take a photo and use the Jaws cursor on that, but I would prefer to avoid that extra part.
Otherwise, does anyone know how I can get the OB to find my scanner?
Thanks.
Glenn
 
 
Sent From My Tabletop
N0YJV   shade tree computer guy

Re: Using A Scanner

Tony
 

Under advanced there is a place to select the scanning device.

 

If Windows sees your scanner it should be in the list to choose from.  If more than one is listed, try each until one works.

 

Tony

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Using A Scanner

 

Hi,

Using Windows 7 64 and latest Jaws.

I have Open Book installed, but it is not recognizing my Canon Scanner.

It is an N650U.

I tried to find drivers at Canon.com, but they said that there are no drivers for my OS, that they are not needed.

I looked in control panel scanners and cameras, and it shows up there.

So I'm wondering, Does the latest Jaws have the ability to utilize a scanner to do OCR?

I know I could probably use another program to take a photo and use the Jaws cursor on that, but I would prefer to avoid that extra part.

Otherwise, does anyone know how I can get the OB to find my scanner?

Thanks.

Glenn

 

 

Sent From My Tabletop
N0YJV   shade tree computer guy

Re: File counting with JAWS

Tom Behler
 

Adrian:

 

Thanks for confirming this Jaws flaw regarding accurate file counting.

 

I have noticed it especially with Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.

 

I’ll try the Narrator option.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Why not just check the status line like I suggested?

Your file count should be there, reported accurately by windows, not JAWS, which – ok, I don’t know how it gets the information re. list views, but again I would suggest that it might have trouble seeing more than what’s already being displayed at times. I’d only be theorising though. However it is a fact that jAWS does not always accurately report the number of items. We should just do what sighted people do though, in this case.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: May 15, 2019 2:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Adrian:

 

Thanks for confirming this Jaws flaw regarding accurate file counting.

 

I have noticed it especially with Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.

 

I’ll try the Narrator option.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi there, tom. The other comments in this thread are interesting. I’d just add that the nice thing about Narrator in Win10 is that it goes on and off instantly, so there’s no delay. You don’t even need to turn off JAWS, unless the two voices are too distracting. I was pleased when Rebecca originally posted her suggestion.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Adrian:

 

Thanks for confirming this Jaws flaw regarding accurate file counting.

 

I have noticed it especially with Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.

 

I’ll try the Narrator option.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: Using A Scanner

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi, thanks.
Been there done that prior to my message, I should have mentioned all my details.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Using A Scanner

Under advanced there is a place to select the scanning device.

 

If Windows sees your scanner it should be in the list to choose from.  If more than one is listed, try each until one works.

 

Tony

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] Using A Scanner

 

Hi,

Using Windows 7 64 and latest Jaws.

I have Open Book installed, but it is not recognizing my Canon Scanner.

It is an N650U.

I tried to find drivers at Canon.com, but they said that there are no drivers for my OS, that they are not needed.

I looked in control panel scanners and cameras, and it shows up there.

So I'm wondering, Does the latest Jaws have the ability to utilize a scanner to do OCR?

I know I could probably use another program to take a photo and use the Jaws cursor on that, but I would prefer to avoid that extra part.

Otherwise, does anyone know how I can get the OB to find my scanner?

Thanks.

Glenn

 

 

Sent From My Tabletop
N0YJV   shade tree computer guy

Re: File counting with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Yes, fair enough, I didn’t mean to sound impatient, it’s just that I don’t really see how activating another screen reader is a reasonable solution when there are two other great options available to everyone; in the case of the status line it only takes a single keystroke.

It’s also the case that I have my narrator set to a speed faster than I can understand, because I use the same voice for NVDA at the moment, a screen-reader I use more often than I use  Narrator, and if I don’t do this, Microsoft 1core voices will insert very annoying long pauses between sentences. Hard to explain why this works, but it does.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: May 15, 2019 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hi there, tom. The other comments in this thread are interesting. I’d just add that the nice thing about Narrator in Win10 is that it goes on and off instantly, so there’s no delay. You don’t even need to turn off JAWS, unless the two voices are too distracting. I was pleased when Rebecca originally posted her suggestion.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Adrian:

 

Thanks for confirming this Jaws flaw regarding accurate file counting.

 

I have noticed it especially with Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.

 

I’ll try the Narrator option.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

Tom Behler
 

Dave:

 

I can’t seem to get this process to work, though, when in a sub-folder view within one of my major folders.

 

Just to be sure, do I invoke the Alt V followed by L and the enter sequence once the sub-folder has been opened?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hi, the only way I've found to get an accurate file count is,

 

1, navigate to documents press enter,

you will hear not selected and then an untrue number,

2, press, alt+v=view,

3, l=list,

now press enter or the spacebar.

it, will stay true as long as the window stays open.

for some unknown reason the list feature doesn't stay checked.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris

Re: File counting with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, JM.

 

It seems everyone’s experience is different. In my case, it used to be that I couldn’t get an accurate file count when I was working with MS Word. Keep in mind that in that case, I was working within a folder, so alt-enter properties wasn’t an option. Now I do get an accurate count while I’m in Word, but before this change came about in a recent JAWS upgrade, a quick switch to Win10’s Narrator was a convenient option.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Guys…

I had a feeling about this but couldn’t quite remember, so I just confirmed – in file explorer, your total items count within folders should be displayed on the status line.

So just press insert + pgdn and you should hear it.

For example, in my i:\films folder at the moment, I hear the following

“1003 items, 1 item selected”.

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: May 15, 2019 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Well yes,s ame here. If I want one, I would rather get it from windows itself using the folder properties box. I’d trust Windows to keep better track of this stuff than I would a screen-reader. Remember too that when we expect an accurate count from jAWS in a very large list, most of that list is actually not even shown on screen.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I guess I should correct my earlier comment...

 

I’m not always looking for the file count.  So, it might be showing the incorrect count most of the time for all I know.  But, I have never seen an incorrect count when I’ve looked.

In any event, It should be fixed.  I think “They” are seeing these notes and will have a fix soon.  How’s that for optimism?

 

Reed

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: May 15, 2019 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t, though; I’ve experienced this too, just never really given it much thought til now.

 

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: May 15, 2019 11:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

It doesn’t matter what your view is, JAWS should always show the correct count.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: May 15, 2019 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I’m using Windows 10 1809.  My view is set to details, which is where I want it.  Alt-v, then l brings me to details, not list.  To get to list, I have to shift tab once.   I can’t say if setting the view to list would force JAWS to give me the correct count, but even if it does, I would be missing the other information that I want about my files and folders. My chosen view always holds, and should always give me a correct count. .

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Volk
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

I agree using the view is quicker. There is a way to keep the list view set to ‘list’ by setting the view to list—(using the steps David gave’ on the C drive), then go into the control panel, press ‘f’ for file explorer, setting in the general tab to ‘this pc’ then using the ctrl+tab to the view page and selecting ‘apply this view to all folders’ then the view list seems to always stays set to list which gives me the true file count.

 

Larry

 

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: May 15, 2019 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

yes I hear you, I think it's a lot easier to alt+v=view, letter l then spacebar, if you have a need to to get the file count.

so, alt+v/l then the spacebar, easier then turning off jaws and turning on narrator.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Just to clarify.  You can get the correct file count by turning off JAWS, turning on Narrator (control-windows key-enter in Windows 10) and reading the screen with Narrator.  But for whatever reason, the sheer act of turning on Narrator and turning it off again will often be enough to sort JAWS out, and it will then give  the correct file or folder count, which holds till I turn the computer off. 

But sometimes, when I boot the computer, JAWS gives the correct count without going through the above bother, so I usually check each time and fix it if I need to. So it’s a bug that needs  to be fixed. 

Rebecca

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Chris,

 

You make complete sense. It’s a recognized flaw in JAWS. In some areas, it can count files accurately (think of email messages) but not in others. Rebecca, a contributor to this list, has pointed out that you can get the counts you need by bringing up Narrator. Remember, you open and close Narrator with control-Windows key-enter.

 

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: [jaws-users] File counting with JAWS

 

Hello All,

 

I am sorry, to ask for help with file counting with JAWS, as I have asked before, and cannot find the response I got before.

 

This is a recurring problem, but not all the time. I have a number of files either in a folder, or on a different drive. But the count will only go up to 33 even if there is over 100. What are the steps to get a full count?

 

I hope this makes some sort of sense to someone.

 

Regards

 

Chris