Re: jaws cursor
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Adrian Spratt
Yes, it’s likely that the touch cursor will be most used on Webpages. As one who does a great deal of Internet research but who is a newbie to the touch cursor, I expect it to be a boon.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@groups.io Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
Many thanks Mike, yes, the explanations are very full. I think I find the use of various cursors, especially the touch cursor, complicated for two reasons. First, because I am primarily a brailist, and try to take advantage of keys on my Handytec Active Braille, secondly, because my work and use is very much document or application orientated, with little need to know what sort of pictures, frames, layouts etc, most WebPages have. This doesn’t mean I despise the importance of such info, quite the contrary. But, and I hope others will agree, those of us working extensively with documents and texts, find it more difficult, or perhaps, somewhat irrelevant to get to the descriptive details of windows or pages, provided we can read what we want. Anyway, thanks a lot for this info, Take care, Takis
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jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io]
On Behalf Of Mike B
Howdy Takis,
See if this helps: Laptop Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
Additional Notes on Laptop Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor (CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE)
Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor (CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET)
Left Mouse Button (CAPS LOCK+8)
Right Mouse Button (CAPS LOCK+9)
Left Mouse Button Lock (CTRL+8)
Right Mouse Button Lock (CTRL+9)
Drag and Drop (CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8)
Note: The original position of what you are dragging, and the location to which you are moving it must both be visible on the screen when you press CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8 the second time or the drag and drop will not work.
----- Original Message ----- From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
Thanks Mike, but how about when using a laptop keyboard? Take care, Takis
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jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io]
On Behalf Of Mike B
Hi Takis,
If you have a Numpad the right side of the Numpad has 3 keys, and from top to bottom the keys are layed out this way: Right side top: Numpad Minus, activates the Jaws cursor.
Right side middle: Numpad Plus, activates the PC cursor.
Right side bottom: Enter key.
----- Original Message ----- From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
Thank you very much for this Adrian. It explains a lot. Just one thing. Which is the pc button people are referring to? Kindest regards from Euboea, Takis
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On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Takis,
The way I approach the JAWS cursor is to turn to it when I’m not getting enough information from a window. Sometimes it shows more details.
Once in a while, the JAWS cursor detects a control (button, etc.) that wasn’t picked up by the PC cursor. In that case, while using the JAWS cursor, I put the focus on that control, then press JAWS key and the PC key together. Sometimes, doing so has the effect of making the control do what it’s supposed to. For example, some “submit” buttons at the end of forms can’t be invoked with the PC cursor on, but this key sequence can make it work. It used to work more often than it does now, but it can still be one more accessibility option.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m finding lately that the touch cursor is bringing up more information than the JAWS cursor. It’s as if the touch cursor is steadily replacing the JAWS cursor for accessibility purposes.
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Hi Mike/all, Thank you very much for that info, which explains a lot. Though I can not speak for Sandy, I will say that I find it difficult to determine that I am in a situation that a cursor other than the pc should be really employed. Also, as it has been said, jaws cursor does not work well for me, it usually offers blank screens. Take care, Takis
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On Behalf Of Mike B
Hi Sandy & Takis,
See if the following will help you understand the cursors a little better. About JAWS Cursors Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked with Windows cursors.
The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications. This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor. *Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.
The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.
The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus
The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move to with the PC Cursor. You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the information currently available on the screen. To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.
The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation
The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later. *Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor. To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking, and swiping. When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor. The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen. To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS. Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.
The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is activated by default when entering an HTML document, such as a web page on the Internet. The virtual PC Cursor speaks the number of elements on the page when it first opens. For instance, the number of links, headings, and regions. You can use the ARROW keys to navigate and read the document, or use Navigation Quick Keys to move to specific elements, such as paragraphs, tables, or headings. JAWS also reads graphics labeled by alt tags in the HTML code.
----- Original Message ----- From: sandy Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [jaws-users] jaws cursor
so, in every day language, this means the jaws cursor doesn’t pick up all those groups of binary codes that are announced when on webpages, and things like that? please explain the data you mentioned
The JAWS cursor enables you to move around a window or screen without changing any data. Sometimes it picks up information that the Pc cursor doesn’t. However, a number of us find that it has become less and less workable, although it’s always worth trying. Lately, I’m finding the touch cursor provides more information. For the record, you bring up the touch cursor with shift-PC key and exit it with two presses of the PC key.
From:
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On Behalf Of sandy
I’ve used jaws for a good while, but relatively new to this list, and would like to know why and when it’s appropriate to use the jaws cursor, and yes, I know how to switch from the PC to the Jaws cursor. win 10, jaws 2019
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