Re: Word and Menus/Ribbons


Van Lant, Robin
 

Looks like your message sent before you finijhed your sentence below.

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From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

Okay. I was able to use the applications key (shift F10) and delete the
remaining cell. Now, following both yours and Robins instructions, I was
able to select the entire table; text and all. What I am having trouble with
now is that when I try to cut the table/text and paste into notepad,

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 5:04 PM for some insane reason, it is selecting
all of the material in the document, and not the table contents. I think I
need to dropkick this laptop and buy another one. Any suggestions? Thanks
again for all of the helpful suggestions thus far.

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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

I think I now understand the problem. You don't navigate tables the way you
were trying. Instead, add control and alt to each navigation key. Thus, to
move right one column press control-alt-right arrow together. To move left a
column combine control, alt and left arrow. To move up or down a column, add
control and alt to, respectively, up and down arrow.

An alternative method is to press JAWS key and the spacebar together,
release, then press t. Now you can move through the table with the regular
navigation keys, with no need of the control and alt keys.

One more thing. To add to Robin's suggestions for how to determine if you
have a table and where it begins, go into quick navigation mode by pressing
JAWS key+z. Now press the letter t. It will put you right at the top left of
any table in the document. To edit the text, you'll need to press JAWS key+z
again.

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jyandt.martin@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 5:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

Robin:

For some aggravating reason, all of my menu keys have been acting real flaky
i.e., when I press the alt key, I get a message asking me if I want to wait
for the program to respond. Maybe I just need to shut it down for the
weekend, and start fresh on monday.Both of your recommendations have been
tried, with no success. When I do the shift F10, I hear the cut not
available, then it disappears. As I said, maybe I need a reboot on Monday.
Thanks to you, Adrian, and all of the others who chimed in on this problem.
Thanks again.


-----Original Message-----
From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 4:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

Hmmm. Let's try the following two things.

Arrow down the document until you hear the indication that you are in a
table. You can test this by tabbing to see if JAWS reports cell coordinates
or ruler measurements across the page.

When you know you are in the table. Hit the shift F10 and arrow up a few
times to the Delete cells button and press enter. In Office 2010, the menu
had a "Select" submenu that allowed you to select the table then delete
it, but I'm guessing Word 2013 is more like Word 2016 in that there is no
select option and you are simply looking for that delete option on the
context menu. As I previously noted, hitting this delete cells option will
open a dialog, where you can choose to delete entire table.

If the above does not work, you can try hitting the alt key and going to the
upper ribbon to use the menus. When I tried it just now, a ribbon for table
tools layout appears. When I am in the table. Focus went to that ribbon
immediately the first time .the tab for this ribbon appeared two tabs to the
right of the help menu, if that's helpful

On this Table Tools layout menu, there is a delete button with a drop down
menu several buttons from the left, so just tab over to it then hit space
down arrow to open the menu and arrow do delete table. The reported
keyboard shortcut sequence is Alt J L D T. That sequence just worked for me
to delete a table.

Robin



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jyandt.martin@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

Robin:

I tried that via the shift F10 keys, but it keeps disappearing. What would
be another suggestion? Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 3:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

My thought is that there is still one empty row of the table in Word.
Here's what I would do. Arrow down through your document until you hear
that message again. Hit the application key and arrow down to Delete. If
it's like Office 2016, a little dialog will pop up asking what you want to
do. Arrow down to delete entire row. You may need to tab to an OK button.
The delete key only deletes text and will not delete a table in Word.
(Note,





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jyandt.martin@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 12:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

Okay. I went to the end of the sentence just before the text of the table
that was reformated in notepad, and put back in the original document. Jaws
says:

"table 18, nonuniform table. blank. Warning. Row 1 of 1, column 1 of 1. Last
cell in table. Pressing tab adds an extra row."
I am hoping that all of this is not gibberish. Thanks for the help.


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 1:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

I don't really understand. Once the table is no longer a table, the delete
key works as it does with any other part of a Word document. That is, one
press deletes one character, control-delete deletes one word, a selected
passage plus the delete key deletes that entire passage, etc.

I also don't understand what you mean by "row" after the table structure has
been removed. Are you saying that each line reflects a row from the former
table?

Once you remove the table structure, it can be necessary to reconstruct the
data, depending on what you want it to show.

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Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

Adrian:

Okay. I followed your instructions, and it worked. However, there is still a
row still in the document. I tried using your instructions, but it still
remains. I also tried the delete key, with no success. Can you tell me how
to remove that? Thanks again.


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

An indirect way might work more conveniently. Cut the entire table from the
document, copy it into Notepad, then recopy back to the document. It would
go something like this:

Mark the beginning of the table with Windows key+control+k.
Go to the end of the table and mark the end of the selection with JAWS
key+spacebar, release, then m.
Press control+x to cut the selected text, i.e., the table.
Open Notepad.
Press control+v. the table is now pasted to Notepad.
Select all with control+a, then cut with control+x.
Return focus to the document.
Assuming you haven't moved the cursor, press control+v to paste the
selection back into to the document. It will no longer be a table.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list@groups.io <jaws-users-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

then you need one of the extra tabs. Try While in the table, press alt+j,
then l, then v (convert table).
At 09:49 AM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
Ann:

Thanks. What I am attempting to do is remove tables from a document and
leave the text intact. Thanks again.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 9:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Word and Menus/Ribbons

In 2013, it's insert table. Alt+n, then tab to table. Or Alt+n, then
t for a 1x1 grid that you can expand, or alt+n, then t, then i for a
creating table dialog.



At 09:18 AM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
Morning all. Using Windows 10, Jaws 2018 and Word 13, can anyone tell
me where I would go in the ribbons to get to the Tables tab? I have
been arrowing through all of the tabs, and cannot seem to find it. Is
there a keyboard command i.e. Alt F (File menu)? Thanks much.

Jerry





















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