Re: Computer with credit card reader.

Victor Gouveia
 

Glen, is what you’re saying is that I have to show someone else my credit card so I can get them read to me?
 
What happens if I don’t have a reading device or if I can’t read Braille.
 
When they send me my bill, it’s in Braille, and the bank says, they send it to me because they have to send something to me via the mail.  Personally, I don’t mind because I can look up the bill on the net at my bank’s website, but even on my bill, the credit card number is not displayed in full, the expiry date is not displayed, and the security code on the back of the card sure as Hell isn’t displayed anywhere but on the card.
 
Are you saying that I could show this information to someone, regardless if I’m paying them or not?
 
So those rich people who paid people to handle their finances had people who did that, and they weren’t even blind.  I’m sorry, but a card reader is exactly what blind people need, whether you teach that or not.
 
Personally, I wouldn’t mind if people who use this types of things could speak up on it’s accessibility with Jaws and how legible is it when read, and while we already got that earlier review, is there a review of one that has the ability to read cards with chips on them?
 
Victor
 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Victor,
With all due respect, I teach independent-living skills, and there is no excuse for a Blind person to not have this information available, either in Braille or on an audio recording, or in an encrypted file on the computer.
So to have such a device for a low-tech solution is either laziness or a lack of imagination, in my opinion.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Gouveia
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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
Glen, no offence, but your view is fairly short sighted.
 
The fact is, a great many blind people don’t have sighted help with which to get the information on the card, and having one of these readers would be crucial, especially when entering information onto a purchase form, or some other information, like a transit pass or something like that.
 
Personally, I wouldn't want anyone else knowing my numbers, short of family, and yet, I would imagine there are people who would not even trust their own family.  In the end, card readers are a necessary thing for some  blind folks.
 
Victor
 
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 
What is the point of having a credit card reader if you don't have a business?
The only one I can imagine having is the PayWithChip one.
which is a site for those who have difficulty handling on-line transactions, because of lack of computer skills.
It is a bit like using Sero to make purchases, they send you a card reader for free so you can make on-line purchases through them.
But I keep track of my card numbers, so I don't need to use a device like that for knowing my card information.
I would think that these devices you buy are units that were used by merchants to make transactions, mostly in kiosks and small businesses, and they would probably not reveal your card information, you would not want the business having a record of that information.
I think it stores the information in their software for like 15 minutes or so, in case there is a problem with the card.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Shane Hecker
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.
 

I picked it up from amazon. It does not work with the chips. It's the old fashion type. Magtek makes it. It's got a scanner on both sides so  it doesn't matter which  way the card goes through.

 

Shane


On 9/29/2018 4:19 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

Shane, this is great information. Where did you get the credit card reader you mentioned in your e-mail?

Does it work with newer cards with chips in them?

Thanks. John

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

Shane, this is perfect information.

I took a job interview today, and, should I get the job, this would be one of my duties.  I am certainly going to keep your informational e-mail to work with.

Thanks very much.

Judy

From: jaws-users-list@groups.io [mailto:jaws-users-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Computer with credit card reader.

What type of card reader are we talking about? Is it something about half a hand width or is it one of those jobs with the chip, touch screen, and keypad? I've got the half hand width job and it is accessible. You plug it in via USB and it basically acts like a keyboard. And here's why I have one.
When I get a new credit card, I want 3 things off of it. I'm looking for the card number, expiration date, and name on the card. One item I know, the other 2 I don't. So I plug the card reader into an available USB port, pop open notepad, then scan the card. Something like this pops up after the card is scanned.
%B3820194571100334%Smush, Bubba R%1225%83295021113556
The %B designates this as a bank,  the numbers after that is usually the credit card number. Then there is a percent sign followed by last name, first name, then middle initial if present. After the next percent sign is the expiration date, in this case 12/2025. The rest is numbers which probably have meaning to the bank, but not to you or me.
All  that to say that they most certainly can be accessible. I'd be more concerned about the software used to run the thing. Is it a web interface or proprietary software developed by the business for their specialty? If it's a web interface, who are they using as their credit card processor? Is  the card processor's web site accessible?
If proprietary software is being used, has anyone looked at it to see if it will work with Jaws, or any other screen reader? If not, is the business open to having someone evaluate the software? Are they open to making some changes if need be?
Lots of questions here but you need these answers in order to make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/28/2018 6:28 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello, Folks,

I went for a job interview, where they stated I would have to take credit card transactions via a card reader from the PC.  The PC is running Windows 10, but I don’t know the card reader.

Has anyone experienced using anything similar, and would like to hear pros and cons, accessible or not, etc.

Thanks very much.

BTW, the only programs I would have to work in are Outlook and Skype for contacting other departments.

Thanks.

Judy


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