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I’ve seen some sites recently
that simply have a checkbox you check that says “I’m not a
robot.”
Even with some of the funny
squiggly print in captchas, sighted folks have difficulty with
them.
Judy
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Morning
all,
OCR has come a very long
way since I used the first Kurtz while reader in the mid-80s, but it has its
limitations. CAPTCHAs are created specifically to be unidentifiable by OCR
systems. Though at times, OCR can convert these, if there was a much better
rate of success doing that, you can bet that the designers of CAPTCHAs would
work at making even nastier ones. The auditory CAPTCHA can often be
useless especially for folks like me who also have a hearing
loss.
A few times, I have
encountered auditory CAPTCHAs with none of the background noise one usually
finds. This other form speaks a simple problem or question to which the human
provides an answer. There well may be ways of defeating that approach, but it
would seem to be an alternative with potential. Given the numbers of visually
impaired elder boomers in my generation who will develop vision loss, I hope
that other methods will be created.
Rick
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You can sometimes read the
text of an image posted on facebook. Here’s what I’ve started to
do.
Open the image in “full
size”. This means it basically has its own browser tab.
Save the
.jpg.
Recognise with
jAWS.
It sometimes works.
I’ve only been using jAWS
2018 for about a week, but I noticed the oCR is much improved from JAWS 18.
It’s still not of a high standard, but I can get intelligible text from an
image at least some of the time.
Of course, a lot of things
can interfere with oCR. The other day someone posted an image of a vintage
horror/sci-fi movie on facebook. I did the usual oCR trick and ended up with
something like “vewiuroapeiy v b r mst r 0”
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I agree. I hope with
adding more OCR that will be possible as well as reading the text of images
posted on things like face book.
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Yes it would, now that
would be a feature worth paying for.
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So let us suggest it again.
Eric, how about a captcha-reading capability within Jaws. That would
be nice. Thank you.
Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
On 9/18/2018 3:49 PM, Steve wrote:
I used Webvisum a couple weeks ago, but I don't think it
works with anything above Firefox 52.
I can never seem to get any relevant response from them
on their website, so I suspect once that version of Firefox is gone, we're
going to have to use something like Rumola or one of the other Captcha
solutions, for those sites that don't provide an alternative; or whose
alternative audio is so garbled as to be useless.
I suggested to Mr. Damery a few years ago that a
captcha-reading capability within Jaws would be nice, but to no
avail.
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I’ve never had
success with Webvism and the add-on is not supported anymore anyway, so I’m
not going to suggest that.
To be honest
I’ve never successfully solved this problem without sighted assistance, if
there is no audio option.
Sometimes even
when there is an audio option, it’s too garbled to make much sense of and
the result Is long minutes of frustration and tedium.
But it seems
like the audio ones are actually getting better, as a rule.
There are
other solving tools for the visual ones. I believe most of them charge a
small fee for use and I have never tried.
Maybe look for
something called Rumola. I believe it’s an add-on for Chrome.
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I believe that
this subject has been approached before, but my sometimers is in high gear
today.
Can anyone
give me some suggestions on how to deal with captias on a website. I am
applying for a job, and the registration site has a captia at the beginning
of the site. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in
advance.
this, then you can bet the
companies that design Captia would work harder a making them indecipherable.