Re: Previous Captia Inquiry

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>

Hah, we’re not all beyond CDs…some of us like to have physical copies of things. I just ordered two more today.




From: <> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: September 19, 2018 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Previous Captia Inquiry


I am an optacon user, and I have been able to read some captchas with that, but not all.  Also some CD liners as well, although we’re beyond CDs now.


The one thing OCR can’t tackle yet is the words on sheet music, such as a hymnal, as the particular syllable is spaced to go under the music notation to play.  OCR mistakes the spacing for columns, and only with an optacon can a blind person get those words.





From: [] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Previous Captia Inquiry


My guess is that technology just hasn’t evolved far enough yet.


To this day I still can’t make much out of a lot of the weirder CD inserts/liners that I have (and I have a lot of them).

oCR usually comes up with either nothing or a jumble of garbage.


From: <> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: September 19, 2018 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Previous Captia Inquiry


Interesting. If a sighted person can solve a capcha by looking at it, why can’t OCR be made to work?


From: <> On Behalf Of pasquale acquaviva via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Previous Captia Inquiry


Hi Maria,


I think the answer to your below question is that captchas are solved by real human beings who are sitting somewhere and providing the necessary information to you via the particular application that is being used, e.g., WebVisum). To the best of my knowledge, the particular information that is contained within the captcha cannot, as yet, be understood by a machine. If this were possible, Doctor Turing's method of circumventing machine identification of purposely weird-looking letters and numbers would be rendered absolutely pointless, and the captcha would have no inherent value.


As the old saying goes, "one rotten apple at the bottom of the barrel spoils the whole barrel", and we innocents who are undeserving of the precautions that are taken against such wicked perversity are made to pay dearly for it. Oh, how I wish this miserable situation were not the case in the real world, but it seems as though we must continue to suffer!


On Tuesday, September 18, 2018, 3:30:48 PM CDT, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:



If Webbisum could do it, when it worked, why not VFO?


Maria Campbell
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/18/2018 4:28 PM, Andy wrote:

There might be some legal concerns regarding FS implementing technology to circumvent a security measure.




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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:05 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Previous Captia Inquiry


I have had no end of success with Webvisum and Firefox.


In fact, I haven’t updated my Firefox in so long because I'm reading posts the Webvisum plug-in doesn’t work with newer versions of Firefox, but I don’t really mind much since I solely use it for CAPTCHA solving in any case, but yet.  Out of all the years I’ve been using the add-on, I’ve only failed to solve the CAPTCHA twice, and in each instance, it asked me to resubmit and the CAPTCHA was solved on the second try.


So, again, I’ve no idea why people rag on Webvisum so much.  Like I said, I’ve had nothing but success with it.




From: JM Casey

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: [jaws-users] Previous Captia Inquiry


I’ve never had success with Webvism and the add-on is not supported anymore anyway, so I’m not going to suggest that.

To be honest I’ve never successfully solved this problem without sighted assistance, if there is no audio option.

Sometimes even when there is an audio option, it’s too garbled to make much sense of and the result Is long minutes of frustration and tedium.

But it seems like the audio ones are actually getting better, as a rule.


There are other solving tools for the visual ones. I believe most of them charge a small fee for use and I have  never tried.

Maybe look for something called Rumola. I believe it’s an add-on for Chrome.





From: <> On Behalf Of jyandt.martin@...
Sent: September 18, 2018 8:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list <>
Subject: [jaws-users] Previous Captia Inquiry


Morning all.


I believe that this subject has been approached before, but my sometimers is in high gear today.


Can anyone give me some suggestions on how to deal with captias on a website. I am applying for a job, and the registration site has a captia at the beginning of the site. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.




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