Getting Old (hi hi)


K2CWM
 

I guess we all have to realize, our beloved '7000 radios are getting old (hi hi) and nothing lasts forever. Since Icom has discontinued the radio (sad), they cannot be replaced, so we all do our best to take care of them. Each day I fire up my 13 yr old '7000, I hold my breath (hi hi). I keep mine clean inside and out, keep it cool (important), and make sure it always sees a good match when transmitting. Mine is almost always used on CW (chasing SKCC contacts), and rarely run it more than 50% power.
So far, so good! ;-)
Curt K2CWM NJ


hrd998cc
 

Yes, they are getting up in age.  My new-to-me 7000 was run mobile most of its previous life and developed major problems.  It was given to me, so I took the risk and had it repaired for mobile use.  It now has new problems.  Though it does work on all bands, sadly, the receive now pops in the background, and it has birdies that come and go. 

Perhaps well-cared-for 7000's will continue for years to come?  They may, but in my case, I am looking at new radios for my mobile.  If Icom would come out with a new radio similar to the 7000, I would buy one immediately! 

Russ KW6T

On Monday, December 13, 2021, 07:31:40 AM PST, K2CWM <k2cwm1@...> wrote:


I guess we all have to realize, our beloved '7000 radios are getting old (hi hi) and nothing lasts forever. Since Icom has discontinued the radio (sad), they cannot be replaced, so we all do our best to take care of them. Each day I fire up my 13 yr old '7000, I hold my breath (hi hi). I keep mine clean inside and out, keep it cool (important), and make sure it always sees a good match when transmitting. Mine is almost always used on CW (chasing SKCC contacts), and rarely run it more than 50% power.
So far, so good! ;-)
Curt K2CWM NJ


WA8Y Steven
 

The Birdies and pops may be from your mobile installation.  Have you tried it in your shack?

The IC-7100 was the replacement.  The wedge shape control head seem more suited for a desk than a dashboard but it works.  Some guys are using IC-7300 for mobile.  The IC-705 would need a 100-200 watt amplifier and manufacturers don't want to make them.

Steve WA8Y

On 12/13/2021 10:59 AM, hrd998cc via groups.io wrote:
Yes, they are getting up in age.  My new-to-me 7000 was run mobile most of its previous life and developed major problems.  It was given to me, so I took the risk and had it repaired for mobile use.  It now has new problems.  Though it does work on all bands, sadly, the receive now pops in the background, and it has birdies that come and go. 

Perhaps well-cared-for 7000's will continue for years to come?  They may, but in my case, I am looking at new radios for my mobile.  If Icom would come out with a new radio similar to the 7000, I would buy one immediately! 

Russ KW6T

On Monday, December 13, 2021, 07:31:40 AM PST, K2CWM <k2cwm1@...> wrote:


I guess we all have to realize, our beloved '7000 radios are getting old (hi hi) and nothing lasts forever. Since Icom has discontinued the radio (sad), they cannot be replaced, so we all do our best to take care of them. Each day I fire up my 13 yr old '7000, I hold my breath (hi hi). I keep mine clean inside and out, keep it cool (important), and make sure it always sees a good match when transmitting. Mine is almost always used on CW (chasing SKCC contacts), and rarely run it more than 50% power.
So far, so good! ;-)
Curt K2CWM NJ


hrd998cc
 

Yes,  Same result.  No problems with my 7300, 9700 or 756 Pro-III. The odd control head for the 7100 has kept me at bay.  Emoji 
73,
Russ KW6T

On Monday, December 13, 2021, 09:46:30 AM PST, WA8Y Steven <stevenlinley@...> wrote:


The Birdies and pops may be from your mobile installation.  Have you tried it in your shack?



r norris
 


 The IC-705 would need a 100-200 watt amplifier and manufacturers don't want to make them.

Steve WA8Y


Yes they do…

Works just fine.  4 watts of drive from the 705, 100 out.
Auto band switching, full QSK.

Book says stay under 30 wpm. Got one burp at 35, never again.
Guess it practiced.







WA8Y Steven
 

Thanks,

That make the price for replacing a 7000 for a 705 around $2000

But good to know, they exist.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "r norris via groups.io" <rkmr15203@...>
Date: 12/13/21 2:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Getting Old (hi hi)


 The IC-705 would need a 100-200 watt amplifier and manufacturers don't want to make them.

Steve WA8Y


Yes they do…

Works just fine.  4 watts of drive from the 705, 100 out.
Auto band switching, full QSK.

Book says stay under 30 wpm. Got one burp at 35, never again.
Guess it practiced.







r norris
 

On Dec 13, 2021, at 17:31, WA8Y Steven <stevenlinley@...> wrote:

Thanks,

That make the price for replacing a 7000 for a 705 around $2000

But good to know, they exist.

It’s been worth it.

I have a 7000, if I don’t use it for a month, I have to get out the book.

Ran the 705 for six months before the amp.

Worked a bunch on 10 watts, even ‘dx pile-ups.

The two inch speaker is good enough. K1EL keyer, built in.

Running SDR software, so ALL the menu buttons and pan adapter are on the big screen.

WiFi server built in. Ran it from an iPad.


wb9avw@...
 

Still running my IC-7000 in the car in typical Chicago winters....for over 6 years now..  with turbo tuner and tar hell antenna...

No issues aside from replacing the inline fuse holders with a in line circuit breaker ( from audio high power versions) .

Still the best radio for mobile use.


William Kerker
 

Sure would be nice if Icom would revisit this platform (IC7000) with upgraded circuitry to accommodate replacement replacement parts for the ones no longer availability.

Bill
KM0F

Amateurs must be tough,
Ham Radio Is A "Contact" Sport


Steve Murphy
 

IC-7010 SDR HF/6/2m/440?

:)

Dec 14, 2021 1:21:06 PM William Kerker <km0f@...>:

Sure would be nice if Icom would revisit this platform (IC7000) with upgraded circuitry to accommodate replacement replacement parts for the ones no longer availability.

Bill
KM0F

Amateurs must be tough,
Ham Radio Is A "Contact" Sport



 

If they just made the IC-7100 with a color display!.
I kinda like the sloping front on the desk and it can work mobile, but that has to be thought out a little more.
I had three IC-7000s and loved them, but sold them because parts were getting hard to find and some impossible.
I don't know why Icom even makes a radio without a color display.


hrd998cc
 

That's a really good point--why no current color display similar to the 7000?  That display, IMHO, is what made a good radio a really cool radio.  


On Thursday, December 16, 2021, 09:04:17 AM PST, J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:


If they just made the IC-7100 with a color display!.
I kinda like the sloping front on the desk and it can work mobile, but that has to be thought out a little more.
I had three IC-7000s and loved them, but sold them because parts were getting hard to find and some impossible.
I don't know why Icom even makes a radio without a color display.


Glenn Jensen
 

consumer price-point / integration with computer software for the presentation layer.

73's - Glenn


On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 10:52 AM hrd998cc via groups.io <hrd998cc=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
That's a really good point--why no current color display similar to the 7000?  That display, IMHO, is what made a good radio a really cool radio.  


On Thursday, December 16, 2021, 09:04:17 AM PST, J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:


If they just made the IC-7100 with a color display!.
I kinda like the sloping front on the desk and it can work mobile, but that has to be thought out a little more.
I had three IC-7000s and loved them, but sold them because parts were getting hard to find and some impossible.
I don't know why Icom even makes a radio without a color display.


 

Today I don't think that there would be $ 5.00 difference in the color display and the monochrome and that would be offset by the sales, easily.
Also it would be great if there were something like a HDMI or at least a video output to a large screen like the IC-7000 had.


Steve Draper
 

The cost difference with a color screen could be much greater than $5.00. When Icom is designing a radio they can't just select whatever the latest LCD is available on the market for cheap. They have to deal with an industrial manufacturer that plans to keep producing the screen for many years. That typically comes with a much higher price. Icom products typically have a long life cycle which means extensive planning to ensure the components needed will (hopefully) be available for many years.
The current component shortages have only made that tougher.

That all said, there is a reason the value on the used market for the 7000 is very high. It's just a fantastic radio and that color screen grabs everyone's attention. 
I think not making the 7100 color was a huge miss by Icom.


Steve VE7FM

On Thu., Dec. 16, 2021, 11:46 J.D. Barron, <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
Today I don't think that there would be $ 5.00 difference in the color display and the monochrome and that would be offset by the sales, easily.
Also it would be great if there were something like a HDMI or at least a video output to a large screen like the IC-7000 had.


Jack W9JH
 

My wish is a 100w radio with a 705 type front panel and a remote chassis, similar to the 7100 form factor but updated!

I have a 7000 and 7100. The above dream machine could replace both for my use.

73,
Jack W9JH


 

Maybe an IC-705 with amplifier and tuner?
I have one on my bench in for a MARS mod and it is a nice rig, but I would want that 100 watt amp with a built in tuner.
I am not particularly into QRP and you CAN turn the power down on most rigs if you want.


WA8Y Steven
 

The IC-705 and the IC7300 has the same front.  Yes too bad they don't make a 100W amp for the IC-705 and other QRP rigs.  Yes there are two amps out there but there are nearly to cost of the IC-705 or Ic-7300.

On the other hand the IC-7100 can be bought used for around $800.00

Steve WA8Y

On 12/17/2021 11:16 AM, Jack W9JH wrote:
My wish is a 100w radio with a 705 type front panel and a remote chassis, similar to the 7100 form factor but updated!

I have a 7000 and 7100. The above dream machine could replace both for my use.

73,
Jack W9JH


Jack W9JH
 

Steve,

The IC-705 and 7300 do have the same screen, but the front on the 705 is smaller. 

There is a lot to like about the 705 over the 7300. 

73,
Jack W9JH


 

Funny that you have to pay a premium for less.
The LAB599 PA-500 is nice looking with an 50-80 watt amp and auto tuner.
Bu the time you have added the accessories it looks like you will have over $2000 pretty easily.
Not a bad radio, especially if you are into QRP.
While I had the IC-705 pictured above I compared it with the IC-7600 below. The receivers were of comparable sensitivity, but I still like the sound of a superhet better on CW.
The IC-7100 was also comparable and none of the recent Icoms I have tried has been significantly better or worse than the others, but they each have their points.
Currently I love the IC-7600 I traded my IC-7300 for as it just sounds better than all of the others (on CW). 
The other issue for me is the touch screens and the menus that an old guy has to remember. I kinda like the control on the front panel, but that takes more space and adds to the cost with more controls to buy and install.
But then you expect more from even an older higher end radio than a mid-range unit.
However if you correct the real cost today for these very good radios with the real cost of the older radios you can see that you are getting a lot for your money!