Date   

Price compare site ?

Frank PH2M
 

Hello all,



Does there exists a price compare site for (US) (internet)shops to
compare/get the lowest price for HAM equipment,

here in the Netherlands we have several sites to compare prices for all
sorts of equipments (e.g. Cellular Telephones, Televisions, Notebooks etc.).



So my question is, does something like this exists for HAMradio equipment
within the United States or for over the whole world?



73 de Frank PH2M


Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

D C *Mac* Macdonald
 

I'm not absolutely sure, but I believe that roofing filters are analog

and if optimized for SSB/CW performance, would proscribe FM usage.

------------------
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK
------------------






________________________________
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: w2ttt@att.net
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:50:42 +0000
Subject: RE: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an IC-7000

Mac,

IF DSP should have made that an easy thing to address, don't you think?

Thanks & 73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
201.314.6964

-----Original Message-----
From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of D C *Mac* Macdonald
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:00 AM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

If I recall, it has been stated that Icom wanted to optimize receive
bandwidth for CW/SSB.

Providing the needed bandwidth for FM would have seriously degraded CW/SSB
performance.

------------------
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK
------------------


Re: [IC-7000] Re: Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

w2ttt
 

Stephen,

I agree with your conclusion. My Go-Kit has a DR-135TP with an internal
packet modem and the IC-7000 has a West Mountain Radio RigBlaster Plug N
Play…all is good for simultaneous Voice/Data.





Thanks & 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964

_____

From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
STEPHEN
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:55 AM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [IC-7000] Re: Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?





So thanks to everyone who has contributed.

I think that with some minor tweeks the consensus is to say YES to the
IC7000, make allowances for ruggedness and voltage and ensure additonal
backups of software and ScS - to include an option for a separate VHF radio
and packet TNC touse Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local
packet node.

Now all I need is to raise the remaining funds. 1.75 kits down and
counting.....

Cheers again everybody for the assistance.

73
Stephen G6SGA

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups. <mailto:ic7000%40yahoogroups.com> com, "STEPHEN"
<g6sga@...> wrote:

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio
Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or
International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and
nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
• Pelican Case Model 1550 – To put all the kit in for transportation
• Laptop – For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of XP
or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows 7.
• Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital
communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted
email)
• Power Source – Protable Generator – Honda EU10i -
• Power Supply – Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
• Radio - ICOM IC-7000
• Antenna Tuner – LDG model Z11 Pro
• Antenna – G5RV plus
• Morse Key – While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is
still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.
• Cables and power cords various (aprox £50 each)
• Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.


The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use
they would be put to?
d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA



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Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

w2ttt
 

Augusto,
Yes, the Boost Regulator is the fix to the current design requirements for
voltage, but I think that we may see lower voltage requirements in the 100W
class of radios as the DSP engines become more efficient. A low current
update to the IC-7000, perhaps with the addition of a USB port seems like
the next logical element in the product evolution for the ICOM line now that
the 706 and 703 families are reaching the end of their product lifecycles.

I'm figuring that such a thing is 18-24 months out before we see such a
product.

Thanks & 73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
201.314.6964

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i2jjr-hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:19 AM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Thank you , Gordon, it's interesting what you point out.
I do not owe nor I have ever seen an IC7200, so I cannot get deeper into
that; nor I know the IC703, although I read good things on it.
You're very right for the power supply, gthat's why I suggested the use
of the Battery Booster in a previous mail; I would like - as many others
- that the IC rigs were not so precisely designed for the 13.8 Vdc ,
sometimes it may be even better to use an FT817 with backpack PA ,
instead of an IC rig that at 12,5 Vdc delivers more or less half the
power. But this is another question.
For the emergency uses, anyway, the modern rigs are too current hungry
.... it should be possible to design something less consuming, with
lesser bells and whistles, but really fullfilling the job when on the Field.
Fwiw, of course; that's only my personal opinion.
73 de Augusto I2JJR / HB9TZA

Il 19/04/2010 5.33, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT ha scritto:
Hmmmmm....Augusto,
I am wondering about the choice of the IC-7200 instead of the IC-7000 for
EMCOMM use and here's why...

You are right in that the IC-7200 seems more mechanically robust, but I
think there is a loss of functionality in the IC-7200 that is a bit
annoying
for EMCOMM use unless you are totally focused on the HF bands. I really
think that the IC-7200 should have included FM, repeater offsets, TONE
encode and decode, and memory support for those functions for the bands
that
it covers. I'm OK that they wanted an HF rig, but when you include 10 and
6
without FM, you lose an opportunity make some use of these capabilities
for
situations make them appropriate.

In the end, the radio needs to be protected and so if I have to go to all
the trouble of doing that, then I might as well get more functionality
from
the rig, so I would go with the IC-7000 or even an IC-706MKIIG.

Also, all of these rigs require some sturdy power source to not go below
the
acceptable operating voltage of the rigs and they also need a robust and
agile automatic antenna tuner.

What is disappointing about the IC-7200 is that it lacks some of the
features of the IC-703+, while adding in a USB port and higher power. For
my money, I wanted a 100W IC-703+ that was updated and not what ICOM
delivered.

Thanks& 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964


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From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
i2jjr-hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:57 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Yes, the complete models of PtcII have the HF-VHF or HF-UHF gateway .
It's a good thing and may be of help for you, but of course in this case
it requires separate rigs.
To avoid ground loops you may also consider PtcII Bluetooth or please
consider also the in-built version for the transceivers, more pratical.

I would also really consider using, as somebody wrote here, an IC7200
instead of the IC7000 , I do not owe it but it seens more "robust" to me
.... just an idea.
73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR

PS I often asked me why SCS pactor modems had so scarce follow in
emergency nets here, in favour of the error prone PSK31, and in spite of
such performances that Pactor 2 and 3 are capables of.
Now there is also a new freeware, SCSmail, you may find it on the SCS
website, it's very fine. I use an old PtcII 1st model from the early '90
, still vy OK and working top. They made a good job both with protocols
and with hardware !!

Il 17/04/2010 1.10, Steve W3AHL ha scritto:

If you are building a digital go-kit with a PTCIIusb HF Pactor& VHF/UHF
Packet controller, it makes sense to go with the 7K. Using a separate
VHF/UHF radio would add too much complexity for little benefit.

The 7K works fine for your intended application.

It is nice to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC
so
you can use Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet
node,
then relay out of the area using HF Pactor 3.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, D C *Mac* Macdonald<k2gkk@...> wrote:


I'm with Leanne on this one. I would ALWAYS opt for separate
VHF/UHF FM dual-banders for local work. I have IC-706 Mk II
and IC-7000 for HF, but separate IC-2400, IC-2710 and IC-2720
for FM.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK




To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: leanne@...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:47:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Stephen, may I ask, do you really need VHF/UHF for this network????
If not, then my choice, would be the 7200. They are fairly simple
to set up and easy to use by someone new to the rig. Like some
military radios, they are fairly go-rilla proof to the ham handed.
I have both radios, and have had them set up at field day and find
that the 7000 a bit confusing to a new operator.

Leanne
W1WXS




From: STEPHEN<g6sga@...>
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 7:05:52 AM
Subject: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio
Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or
International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and
nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
• Pelican Case Model 1550 – To put all the kit in for transportation
• Laptop – For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of
XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows
7.

• Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital
communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted
email)

• Power Source – Protable Generator – Honda EU10i -
• Power Supply – Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
• Radio - ICOM IC-7000
• Antenna Tuner – LDG model Z11 Pro
• Antenna – G5RV plus
• Morse Key – While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is
still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.

• Cables and power cords various (aprox £50 each)
• Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.

The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use
they would be put to?

d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else
included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA



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Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

w2ttt
 

Mac,
IF DSP should have made that an easy thing to address, don't you think?

Thanks & 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964

-----Original Message-----
From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of D
C *Mac* Macdonald
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:00 AM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?


If I recall, it has been stated that Icom wanted to optimize receive
bandwidth for CW/SSB.

Providing the needed bandwidth for FM would have seriously degraded CW/SSB
performance.


-----------------
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK
-----------------

To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: w2ttt@att.net
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:33:04 +0000
Subject: RE: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?






Hmmmmm....Augusto,
I am wondering about the choice of the IC-7200 instead of the IC-7000 for
EMCOMM use and here's why...

You are right in that the IC-7200 seems more mechanically robust, but I
think there is a loss of functionality in the IC-7200 that is a bit annoying
for EMCOMM use unless you are totally focused on the HF bands. I really
think that the IC-7200 should have included FM, repeater offsets, TONE
encode and decode, and memory support for those functions for the bands that
it covers. I'm OK that they wanted an HF rig, but when you include 10 and 6
without FM, you lose an opportunity make some use of these capabilities for
situations make them appropriate.

In the end, the radio needs to be protected and so if I have to go to all
the trouble of doing that, then I might as well get more functionality from
the rig, so I would go with the IC-7000 or even an IC-706MKIIG.

Also, all of these rigs require some sturdy power source to not go below the
acceptable operating voltage of the rigs and they also need a robust and
agile automatic antenna tuner.

What is disappointing about the IC-7200 is that it lacks some of the
features of the IC-703+, while adding in a USB port and higher power. For
my money, I wanted a 100W IC-703+ that was updated and not what ICOM
delivered.

Thanks & 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964

-----Original Message-----
From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
i2jjr-hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:57 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Yes, the complete models of PtcII have the HF-VHF or HF-UHF gateway .
It's a good thing and may be of help for you, but of course in this case
it requires separate rigs.
To avoid ground loops you may also consider PtcII Bluetooth or please
consider also the in-built version for the transceivers, more pratical.

I would also really consider using, as somebody wrote here, an IC7200
instead of the IC7000 , I do not owe it but it seens more "robust" to me
.... just an idea.
73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR

PS I often asked me why SCS pactor modems had so scarce follow in
emergency nets here, in favour of the error prone PSK31, and in spite of
such performances that Pactor 2 and 3 are capables of.
Now there is also a new freeware, SCSmail, you may find it on the SCS
website, it's very fine. I use an old PtcII 1st model from the early '90
, still vy OK and working top. They made a good job both with protocols
and with hardware !!

Il 17/04/2010 1.10, Steve W3AHL ha scritto:
If you are building a digital go-kit with a PTCIIusb HF Pactor& VHF/UHF
Packet controller, it makes sense to go with the 7K. Using a separate
VHF/UHF radio would add too much complexity for little benefit.

The 7K works fine for your intended application.

It is nice to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC so
you can use Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet node,
then relay out of the area using HF Pactor 3.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, D C *Mac* Macdonald<k2gkk@...> wrote:


I'm with Leanne on this one. I would ALWAYS opt for separate
VHF/UHF FM dual-banders for local work. I have IC-706 Mk II
and IC-7000 for HF, but separate IC-2400, IC-2710 and IC-2720
for FM.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK




To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: leanne@...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:47:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Stephen, may I ask, do you really need VHF/UHF for this network????
If not, then my choice, would be the 7200. They are fairly simple
to set up and easy to use by someone new to the rig. Like some
military radios, they are fairly go-rilla proof to the ham handed.
I have both radios, and have had them set up at field day and find
that the 7000 a bit confusing to a new operator.

Leanne
W1WXS




From: STEPHEN<g6sga@...>
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 7:05:52 AM
Subject: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio
Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or
International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and
nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
• Pelican Case Model 1550 – To put all the kit in for transportation
• Laptop – For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of
XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows
7.
• Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital
communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted
email)
• Power Source – Protable Generator – Honda EU10i -
• Power Supply – Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
• Radio - ICOM IC-7000
• Antenna Tuner – LDG model Z11 Pro
• Antenna – G5RV plus
• Morse Key – While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is
still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.
• Cables and power cords various (aprox £50 each)
• Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.

The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use
they would be put to?
d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA



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Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

D C *Mac* Macdonald
 

If I recall, it has been stated that Icom wanted to optimize receive bandwidth for CW/SSB.

Providing the needed bandwidth for FM would have seriously degraded CW/SSB performance.


-----------------
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK
-----------------

To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: w2ttt@att.net
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:33:04 +0000
Subject: RE: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?






Hmmmmm....Augusto,
I am wondering about the choice of the IC-7200 instead of the IC-7000 for
EMCOMM use and here's why...

You are right in that the IC-7200 seems more mechanically robust, but I
think there is a loss of functionality in the IC-7200 that is a bit annoying
for EMCOMM use unless you are totally focused on the HF bands. I really
think that the IC-7200 should have included FM, repeater offsets, TONE
encode and decode, and memory support for those functions for the bands that
it covers. I'm OK that they wanted an HF rig, but when you include 10 and 6
without FM, you lose an opportunity make some use of these capabilities for
situations make them appropriate.

In the end, the radio needs to be protected and so if I have to go to all
the trouble of doing that, then I might as well get more functionality from
the rig, so I would go with the IC-7000 or even an IC-706MKIIG.

Also, all of these rigs require some sturdy power source to not go below the
acceptable operating voltage of the rigs and they also need a robust and
agile automatic antenna tuner.

What is disappointing about the IC-7200 is that it lacks some of the
features of the IC-703+, while adding in a USB port and higher power. For
my money, I wanted a 100W IC-703+ that was updated and not what ICOM
delivered.

Thanks & 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964

-----Original Message-----
From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
i2jjr-hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:57 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Yes, the complete models of PtcII have the HF-VHF or HF-UHF gateway .
It's a good thing and may be of help for you, but of course in this case
it requires separate rigs.
To avoid ground loops you may also consider PtcII Bluetooth or please
consider also the in-built version for the transceivers, more pratical.

I would also really consider using, as somebody wrote here, an IC7200
instead of the IC7000 , I do not owe it but it seens more "robust" to me
.... just an idea.
73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR

PS I often asked me why SCS pactor modems had so scarce follow in
emergency nets here, in favour of the error prone PSK31, and in spite of
such performances that Pactor 2 and 3 are capables of.
Now there is also a new freeware, SCSmail, you may find it on the SCS
website, it's very fine. I use an old PtcII 1st model from the early '90
, still vy OK and working top. They made a good job both with protocols
and with hardware !!

Il 17/04/2010 1.10, Steve W3AHL ha scritto:
If you are building a digital go-kit with a PTCIIusb HF Pactor& VHF/UHF
Packet controller, it makes sense to go with the 7K. Using a separate
VHF/UHF radio would add too much complexity for little benefit.

The 7K works fine for your intended application.

It is nice to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC so
you can use Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet node,
then relay out of the area using HF Pactor 3.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, D C *Mac* Macdonald<k2gkk@...> wrote:


I'm with Leanne on this one. I would ALWAYS opt for separate
VHF/UHF FM dual-banders for local work. I have IC-706 Mk II
and IC-7000 for HF, but separate IC-2400, IC-2710 and IC-2720
for FM.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK




To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: leanne@...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:47:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Stephen, may I ask, do you really need VHF/UHF for this network????
If not, then my choice, would be the 7200. They are fairly simple
to set up and easy to use by someone new to the rig. Like some
military radios, they are fairly go-rilla proof to the ham handed.
I have both radios, and have had them set up at field day and find
that the 7000 a bit confusing to a new operator.

Leanne
W1WXS




From: STEPHEN<g6sga@...>
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 7:05:52 AM
Subject: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio
Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or
International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and
nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
Pelican Case Model 1550 To put all the kit in for transportation
Laptop For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of
XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows
7.
Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital
communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted
email)
Power Source Protable Generator Honda EU10i -
Power Supply Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
Radio - ICOM IC-7000
Antenna Tuner LDG model Z11 Pro
Antenna G5RV plus
Morse Key While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is
still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.
Cables and power cords various (aprox 50 each)
Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.

The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use
they would be put to?
d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA



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Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Augusto
 

Thank you , Gordon, it's interesting what you point out.
I do not owe nor I have ever seen an IC7200, so I cannot get deeper into that; nor I know the IC703, although I read good things on it.
You're very right for the power supply, gthat's why I suggested the use of the Battery Booster in a previous mail; I would like - as many others - that the IC rigs were not so precisely designed for the 13.8 Vdc , sometimes it may be even better to use an FT817 with backpack PA , instead of an IC rig that at 12,5 Vdc delivers more or less half the power. But this is another question.
For the emergency uses, anyway, the modern rigs are too current hungry .... it should be possible to design something less consuming, with lesser bells and whistles, but really fullfilling the job when on the Field.
Fwiw, of course; that's only my personal opinion.
73 de Augusto I2JJR / HB9TZA

Il 19/04/2010 5.33, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT ha scritto:
Hmmmmm....Augusto,
I am wondering about the choice of the IC-7200 instead of the IC-7000 for
EMCOMM use and here's why...

You are right in that the IC-7200 seems more mechanically robust, but I
think there is a loss of functionality in the IC-7200 that is a bit annoying
for EMCOMM use unless you are totally focused on the HF bands. I really
think that the IC-7200 should have included FM, repeater offsets, TONE
encode and decode, and memory support for those functions for the bands that
it covers. I'm OK that they wanted an HF rig, but when you include 10 and 6
without FM, you lose an opportunity make some use of these capabilities for
situations make them appropriate.

In the end, the radio needs to be protected and so if I have to go to all
the trouble of doing that, then I might as well get more functionality from
the rig, so I would go with the IC-7000 or even an IC-706MKIIG.

Also, all of these rigs require some sturdy power source to not go below the
acceptable operating voltage of the rigs and they also need a robust and
agile automatic antenna tuner.

What is disappointing about the IC-7200 is that it lacks some of the
features of the IC-703+, while adding in a USB port and higher power. For
my money, I wanted a 100W IC-703+ that was updated and not what ICOM
delivered.

Thanks& 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964


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i2jjr-hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:57 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Yes, the complete models of PtcII have the HF-VHF or HF-UHF gateway .
It's a good thing and may be of help for you, but of course in this case
it requires separate rigs.
To avoid ground loops you may also consider PtcII Bluetooth or please
consider also the in-built version for the transceivers, more pratical.

I would also really consider using, as somebody wrote here, an IC7200
instead of the IC7000 , I do not owe it but it seens more "robust" to me
.... just an idea.
73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR

PS I often asked me why SCS pactor modems had so scarce follow in
emergency nets here, in favour of the error prone PSK31, and in spite of
such performances that Pactor 2 and 3 are capables of.
Now there is also a new freeware, SCSmail, you may find it on the SCS
website, it's very fine. I use an old PtcII 1st model from the early '90
, still vy OK and working top. They made a good job both with protocols
and with hardware !!

Il 17/04/2010 1.10, Steve W3AHL ha scritto:

If you are building a digital go-kit with a PTCIIusb HF Pactor& VHF/UHF
Packet controller, it makes sense to go with the 7K. Using a separate
VHF/UHF radio would add too much complexity for little benefit.

The 7K works fine for your intended application.

It is nice to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC so
you can use Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet node,
then relay out of the area using HF Pactor 3.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, D C *Mac* Macdonald<k2gkk@...> wrote:


I'm with Leanne on this one. I would ALWAYS opt for separate
VHF/UHF FM dual-banders for local work. I have IC-706 Mk II
and IC-7000 for HF, but separate IC-2400, IC-2710 and IC-2720
for FM.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK




To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: leanne@...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:47:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Stephen, may I ask, do you really need VHF/UHF for this network????
If not, then my choice, would be the 7200. They are fairly simple
to set up and easy to use by someone new to the rig. Like some
military radios, they are fairly go-rilla proof to the ham handed.
I have both radios, and have had them set up at field day and find
that the 7000 a bit confusing to a new operator.

Leanne
W1WXS




From: STEPHEN<g6sga@...>
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 7:05:52 AM
Subject: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio
Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or
International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and
nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
� Pelican Case Model 1550 � To put all the kit in for transportation
� Laptop � For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of
XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows
7.

� Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital
communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted
email)

� Power Source � Protable Generator � Honda EU10i -
� Power Supply � Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
� Radio - ICOM IC-7000
� Antenna Tuner � LDG model Z11 Pro
� Antenna � G5RV plus
� Morse Key � While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is
still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.

� Cables and power cords various (aprox �50 each)
� Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.

The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use
they would be put to?

d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA



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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

Augusto
 

Hi Stephen,
please consider that 2 DSP TNCs for Packet (comprising the gateway) are possible as an internal optional for the PtcII (not for all models , see SCS site).
In that way I saved a lot of space: my old model comprises 2 add-on for Packet Radio for hi-speed, and the modern ones do it also better.
I used them with 3 separate rigs,: HF VHF UHF . But this is not strictly necessary, you may use only UHF at hi-speed packet.
For this you may also use small, palm type ones, their power should be enough for portable use, with a medium size omnidir vertical co-linear.
They are also mostly dual band, so you may use VHF or UHF at your needs, when on the field.
I wish you all the best for what you're doing.
73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR

Il 19/04/2010 10.54, STEPHEN ha scritto:
So thanks to everyone who has contributed.

I think that with some minor tweeks the consensus is to say YES to the IC7000, make allowances for ruggedness and voltage and ensure additonal backups of software and ScS - to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC touse Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet node.

Now all I need is to raise the remaining funds. 1.75 kits down and counting.....

Cheers again everybody for the assistance.


73
Stephen G6SGA

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "STEPHEN"<g6sga@...> wrote:

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
� Pelican Case Model 1550 � To put all the kit in for transportation
� Laptop � For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows 7.
� Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted email)
� Power Source � Protable Generator � Honda EU10i -
� Power Supply � Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
� Radio - ICOM IC-7000
� Antenna Tuner � LDG model Z11 Pro
� Antenna � G5RV plus
� Morse Key � While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.
� Cables and power cords various (aprox �50 each)
� Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.


The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use they would be put to?
d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA


Re: Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

STEPHEN <g6sga@...>
 

So thanks to everyone who has contributed.

I think that with some minor tweeks the consensus is to say YES to the IC7000, make allowances for ruggedness and voltage and ensure additonal backups of software and ScS - to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC touse Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet node.

Now all I need is to raise the remaining funds. 1.75 kits down and counting.....

Cheers again everybody for the assistance.


73
Stephen G6SGA

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "STEPHEN" <g6sga@...> wrote:

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
• Pelican Case Model 1550 – To put all the kit in for transportation
• Laptop – For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows 7.
• Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted email)
• Power Source – Protable Generator – Honda EU10i -
• Power Supply – Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
• Radio - ICOM IC-7000
• Antenna Tuner – LDG model Z11 Pro
• Antenna – G5RV plus
• Morse Key – While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.
• Cables and power cords various (aprox £50 each)
• Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.


The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use they would be put to?
d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA


Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

w2ttt
 

Hmmmmm....Augusto,
I am wondering about the choice of the IC-7200 instead of the IC-7000 for
EMCOMM use and here's why...

You are right in that the IC-7200 seems more mechanically robust, but I
think there is a loss of functionality in the IC-7200 that is a bit annoying
for EMCOMM use unless you are totally focused on the HF bands. I really
think that the IC-7200 should have included FM, repeater offsets, TONE
encode and decode, and memory support for those functions for the bands that
it covers. I'm OK that they wanted an HF rig, but when you include 10 and 6
without FM, you lose an opportunity make some use of these capabilities for
situations make them appropriate.

In the end, the radio needs to be protected and so if I have to go to all
the trouble of doing that, then I might as well get more functionality from
the rig, so I would go with the IC-7000 or even an IC-706MKIIG.

Also, all of these rigs require some sturdy power source to not go below the
acceptable operating voltage of the rigs and they also need a robust and
agile automatic antenna tuner.

What is disappointing about the IC-7200 is that it lacks some of the
features of the IC-703+, while adding in a USB port and higher power. For
my money, I wanted a 100W IC-703+ that was updated and not what ICOM
delivered.

Thanks & 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964

-----Original Message-----
From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
i2jjr-hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:57 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Yes, the complete models of PtcII have the HF-VHF or HF-UHF gateway .
It's a good thing and may be of help for you, but of course in this case
it requires separate rigs.
To avoid ground loops you may also consider PtcII Bluetooth or please
consider also the in-built version for the transceivers, more pratical.

I would also really consider using, as somebody wrote here, an IC7200
instead of the IC7000 , I do not owe it but it seens more "robust" to me
.... just an idea.
73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR

PS I often asked me why SCS pactor modems had so scarce follow in
emergency nets here, in favour of the error prone PSK31, and in spite of
such performances that Pactor 2 and 3 are capables of.
Now there is also a new freeware, SCSmail, you may find it on the SCS
website, it's very fine. I use an old PtcII 1st model from the early '90
, still vy OK and working top. They made a good job both with protocols
and with hardware !!

Il 17/04/2010 1.10, Steve W3AHL ha scritto:
If you are building a digital go-kit with a PTCIIusb HF Pactor& VHF/UHF
Packet controller, it makes sense to go with the 7K. Using a separate
VHF/UHF radio would add too much complexity for little benefit.

The 7K works fine for your intended application.

It is nice to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC so
you can use Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet node,
then relay out of the area using HF Pactor 3.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, D C *Mac* Macdonald<k2gkk@...> wrote:


I'm with Leanne on this one. I would ALWAYS opt for separate
VHF/UHF FM dual-banders for local work. I have IC-706 Mk II
and IC-7000 for HF, but separate IC-2400, IC-2710 and IC-2720
for FM.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK




To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: leanne@...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:47:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Stephen, may I ask, do you really need VHF/UHF for this network????
If not, then my choice, would be the 7200. They are fairly simple
to set up and easy to use by someone new to the rig. Like some
military radios, they are fairly go-rilla proof to the ham handed.
I have both radios, and have had them set up at field day and find
that the 7000 a bit confusing to a new operator.

Leanne
W1WXS




From: STEPHEN<g6sga@...>
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 7:05:52 AM
Subject: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio
Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or
International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and
nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
• Pelican Case Model 1550 – To put all the kit in for transportation
• Laptop – For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of
XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows
7.
• Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital
communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted
email)
• Power Source – Protable Generator – Honda EU10i -
• Power Supply – Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
• Radio - ICOM IC-7000
• Antenna Tuner – LDG model Z11 Pro
• Antenna – G5RV plus
• Morse Key – While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is
still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.
• Cables and power cords various (aprox £50 each)
• Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.

The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use
they would be put to?
d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA



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Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Augusto
 

Yes, the complete models of PtcII have the HF-VHF or HF-UHF gateway . It's a good thing and may be of help for you, but of course in this case it requires separate rigs.
To avoid ground loops you may also consider PtcII Bluetooth or please consider also the in-built version for the transceivers, more pratical.

I would also really consider using, as somebody wrote here, an IC7200 instead of the IC7000 , I do not owe it but it seens more "robust" to me .... just an idea.
73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR

PS I often asked me why SCS pactor modems had so scarce follow in emergency nets here, in favour of the error prone PSK31, and in spite of such performances that Pactor 2 and 3 are capables of.
Now there is also a new freeware, SCSmail, you may find it on the SCS website, it's very fine. I use an old PtcII 1st model from the early '90 , still vy OK and working top. They made a good job both with protocols and with hardware !!

Il 17/04/2010 1.10, Steve W3AHL ha scritto:
If you are building a digital go-kit with a PTCIIusb HF Pactor& VHF/UHF Packet controller, it makes sense to go with the 7K. Using a separate VHF/UHF radio would add too much complexity for little benefit.

The 7K works fine for your intended application.

It is nice to include an option for a separate VHF radio and packet TNC so you can use Winlink's RMS Packet& RMS Relay to set up a local packet node, then relay out of the area using HF Pactor 3.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, D C *Mac* Macdonald<k2gkk@...> wrote:


I'm with Leanne on this one. I would ALWAYS opt for separate
VHF/UHF FM dual-banders for local work. I have IC-706 Mk II
and IC-7000 for HF, but separate IC-2400, IC-2710 and IC-2720
for FM.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK




To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: leanne@...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:47:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic7000?

Stephen, may I ask, do you really need VHF/UHF for this network????
If not, then my choice, would be the 7200. They are fairly simple
to set up and easy to use by someone new to the rig. Like some
military radios, they are fairly go-rilla proof to the ham handed.
I have both radios, and have had them set up at field day and find
that the 7000 a bit confusing to a new operator.

Leanne
W1WXS




From: STEPHEN<g6sga@...>
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 7:05:52 AM
Subject: [IC-7000] Do YOU recommend the purchase of an ic79000?

OK, I have not bought the rig yet.

I am hoping to get 5 new radios to be used in Emergency Deployment Radio Equipment Sets. Basically for Radio Amateurs to use in RAYNET (UK) or International Health Service situations (Haiti or Honduras for example).

I am raising the funds as we speak and have got the cash for one and nearly two of the kits.

The equipment consists of
� Pelican Case Model 1550 � To put all the kit in for transportation
� Laptop � For processing digital communications. can be any with OS of XP or later. I believe the Winlink software is now compatible with Windows 7.
� Radio modem, PTC-IIusb Pactor 3 ready (USB) - (These allow digital communication on a number of emergency bands, including Radio transmitted email)
� Power Source � Protable Generator � Honda EU10i -
� Power Supply � Nissei PS-30SW11 PSU
� Radio - ICOM IC-7000
� Antenna Tuner � LDG model Z11 Pro
� Antenna � G5RV plus
� Morse Key � While Morse is somewhat redundant in the digital age it is still a viable communication method when voice will just not make it.
� Cables and power cords various (aprox �50 each)
� Insurance and transportation and customs cost when deploying.

The radio must include all mods to work in UK, USA and Central America.

a) do you recommend it?
b) what mods / (URLs would help) would you recommend
c) what optional extras do you think are essential - considering the use they would be put to?
d) do you think the kit could have or should have anything else included?

Thanks Stephen
G6SGA



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Re: Jeep throws error codes on dash when driving and transmitting on HF

w8bux
 

I also have a 2008 Jeep Wrangler, same radio, and had the same problem. I tried all sorts of things, but ultimately solved it to my satisfaction. The solution was twofold:

1. I had a High Sierra HS-1800 antenna mounted on the tailgate. I switched to an SGC-230 antenna coupler mounted and grounded high on the rollbar, with a whip antenna mounted to the hardtop and fed through to the antenna coupler. The issue went away on 20 meters, but remained on 30, 40, and 80 meters.

2. I have an auxiliary battery in the back that the radio is connected directly to. That battery has the positive side connected to an automatic charging relay, which is connected to the battery under the hood. It had the negative side grounded to the rear seat mount. I re-routed that ground wire out through a drain plug in the body tub and directly to the battery under the hood.

I can now transmit full power on all bands except 30 meters, where I still see the issue, but I'm not going to do any CW or digital ops while in motion anyway, so really that's no problem.

So I guess I agree with the rest of the suggestions - trial and error. Good luck, and hope you can share your solution,

Pete AA8L

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, Tom Z <kg3vtomz@...> wrote:

Today's vehicles have several processors that all talk across digital
networks. It sounds to me like you are getting RF into one of the
processors, or the wiring of your automotive diagnostic network. That might
be tough to fix. The best solution would be some RF bypassing or shielding
of the components being effected.

The first thing I would want to know is - is the RF getting coupled in from
your cables or antenna? Try putting a dummy load where the antenna is, and
see if you still have a problem. If so, I would put RF chokes on all your
radio wiring just to make sure they are not radiating into the auto network.
If not, you are either going to have to do some shielding of components or
alter your operating frequency/power plan.

Tom, KG3V

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Steve W3AHL <w3ahl@...> wrote:



If the radio just started causing this on 20M, try to remember what you
changed since it last worked OK. Or maybe it is frequency-sensitive and only
happens when the SWR is too high.

You may have a poor RF ground where the antenna mounts to the body (this is
REALLY IMPORTANT!). Or you may have a coaxial connector that isn't assembled
or soldered quite right, that is causing intermittent high SWR. Or the coax
may be routed too close and parallel to your car's wiring harnesses.

You might try to find another ham with experience operating HF mobile to
review your installation. Newer hams or ones having little technical
background often misunderstand how to make reliable RF cables and ground
bonding jumpers, etc.

Try rerouting the coax outside the car to isolate it from the car's wiring.
Try powering the radio from an AC supply (assuming you can recreate the
problem in your driveway) to eliminate the DC power wiring from your radio
to the battery as a problem.

Get a bunch of good HF ferrite chokes made with Type 31 material (not from
hamfests or Radio Shack) and clamp several on the feed line near the antenna
mount (outside the car). One source is Mouser:

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/catalogUSD/641/931.pdf

Try to bond all body panels to the chassis with short lengths of #6
stranded wire. Start with those close to the antenna with wiring harnesses
behind them.

These are the simple things to try. Sometimes it takes a lot of trial and
error to find the combination of things causing the problem. But every
little problem you fix and connection you improve will usually also result
in better signal quality -- both TX and RX.

Steve, W3AHL


--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com <ic7000%40yahoogroups.com>, "Don" <goldtr8@>
wrote:

I have a new problem that showed up today.

When driving the jeep and attempting to transmit on 20M with between 60%
to 70% power. When I keyed up on USB and started to talk my dash went wild
and warning light went on and stayed on.

Basically it starting giving warning chimes, the ESP/BAS light stayed on
and the traction control lights stayed on. When I shut the Jeep off and
restarted it the lights were cleared. The Jeep did not misfire that I
noticed. The Jeep is a 2008 JK Wrangler Rubicon.

I have bonded the tailgate to the body where there hamstick is mounted.
Power is run directly to the battery and the radio housing is grounded to
the body with a wire.

Any ideas on how to attack such a problem.

This is one tough hobby to figure out for mobile operation. But it is
rewarding when I am talking around the country.

73~
Don


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Re: automatic or manual antenna tuner

Neil Foster <archerNF@...>
 

I meant to add use the Turbo Tuner if you are using a screwdriver antenna. I do not think it will work with fixed antennas like the Hustler. Sorry about that omission.
Neil N4FN


Re: [IC-7000] IC-7000 would you buy something else today?

Tom Z <kg3vtomz@...>
 

I have only operated one radio mobile, the IC-7000 and I don't see anything
difficult about it. Of course installation of a mobile rig is tedious, at
least in my opinion. But once I installed it, I just turn it on and use it.
When I first got the rig, it took awhile to get used to the menus, but once
you have things setup, there is not much fiddling to be done. The display is
very readable and there are Band controls on the mic. If you add an antenna
tuner, operating is almost effortless.

73,

Tom, KG3V

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:06 AM, BJ VOUTE <fxb1982@hotmail.com> wrote:




Hello to all,

I've followed this thread for a while. I currently operate an IC-706MK2G in
my mobile, HF/VHF/UHF. I must say the 706 series radio seems easier to run
mobile as compared to the IC-7000. I have not operated the IC-7000 mobile
yet, but I think the 7000 is a good bit more capable than the 706 series
radio. In some respects the 7000 is more capable than my 756ProII. Having
said that, if it were me, at this point I'm more comfortable with the 706 in
the car. When I am due for a new vehicle, I'm going to transfer the IC-7000
along with it. Until then, I believe the IC-7000 is an unbelievable radio
that takes up barely more than the footprint of one of my shoes.

I would not want to replace my 756ProII with it, but if I were forced, it
would be a close call.

My 7000 is from 2007. No issues at all with it. For what it is, great
radio!

73, BJ

From: kg3vtomz@gmail.com <kg3vtomz%40gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:50:40 -0400
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] IC-7000 would you buy something else today?

Billy,

I would highly recommend the IC-7000, based upon my experience. I have
used
it mobile and fixed. I mainly use it for contesting and an occasional
casual
QSO, but mostly on HF. I continue to be impressed with the functionality
in
this small package.

I have read the same complaints you have. They do concern me, but some of
these problems are old (probably been fixed), and consider the large
number
of these that must be in use.

73,

Tom, KG3V

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Williamk <wekinne@yahoo.com<wekinne%40yahoo.com>>
wrote:



I am looking to buy a new HF system for portable (car) and home use.
I'd
like to be able to have HF and VHF in one box. I also have never done
sat
work and it would be cute to have it all in one box for abut $1200, the
pennies saved.

My concern with the IC-7000 is that I keep seeing problems that appear
to
be systemic to the unit. So your hard earned experience, good and bad,
would
be appreciated.

TNX
KA2BYU
Billy



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Re: [IC-7000] Re: Jeep throws error codes on dash when driving and transmitting on HF

Tom Z <kg3vtomz@...>
 

Today's vehicles have several processors that all talk across digital
networks. It sounds to me like you are getting RF into one of the
processors, or the wiring of your automotive diagnostic network. That might
be tough to fix. The best solution would be some RF bypassing or shielding
of the components being effected.

The first thing I would want to know is - is the RF getting coupled in from
your cables or antenna? Try putting a dummy load where the antenna is, and
see if you still have a problem. If so, I would put RF chokes on all your
radio wiring just to make sure they are not radiating into the auto network.
If not, you are either going to have to do some shielding of components or
alter your operating frequency/power plan.

Tom, KG3V

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Steve W3AHL <w3ahl@att.net> wrote:



If the radio just started causing this on 20M, try to remember what you
changed since it last worked OK. Or maybe it is frequency-sensitive and only
happens when the SWR is too high.

You may have a poor RF ground where the antenna mounts to the body (this is
REALLY IMPORTANT!). Or you may have a coaxial connector that isn't assembled
or soldered quite right, that is causing intermittent high SWR. Or the coax
may be routed too close and parallel to your car's wiring harnesses.

You might try to find another ham with experience operating HF mobile to
review your installation. Newer hams or ones having little technical
background often misunderstand how to make reliable RF cables and ground
bonding jumpers, etc.

Try rerouting the coax outside the car to isolate it from the car's wiring.
Try powering the radio from an AC supply (assuming you can recreate the
problem in your driveway) to eliminate the DC power wiring from your radio
to the battery as a problem.

Get a bunch of good HF ferrite chokes made with Type 31 material (not from
hamfests or Radio Shack) and clamp several on the feed line near the antenna
mount (outside the car). One source is Mouser:

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/catalogUSD/641/931.pdf

Try to bond all body panels to the chassis with short lengths of #6
stranded wire. Start with those close to the antenna with wiring harnesses
behind them.

These are the simple things to try. Sometimes it takes a lot of trial and
error to find the combination of things causing the problem. But every
little problem you fix and connection you improve will usually also result
in better signal quality -- both TX and RX.

Steve, W3AHL


--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com <ic7000%40yahoogroups.com>, "Don" <goldtr8@...>
wrote:

I have a new problem that showed up today.

When driving the jeep and attempting to transmit on 20M with between 60%
to 70% power. When I keyed up on USB and started to talk my dash went wild
and warning light went on and stayed on.

Basically it starting giving warning chimes, the ESP/BAS light stayed on
and the traction control lights stayed on. When I shut the Jeep off and
restarted it the lights were cleared. The Jeep did not misfire that I
noticed. The Jeep is a 2008 JK Wrangler Rubicon.

I have bonded the tailgate to the body where there hamstick is mounted.
Power is run directly to the battery and the radio housing is grounded to
the body with a wire.

Any ideas on how to attack such a problem.

This is one tough hobby to figure out for mobile operation. But it is
rewarding when I am talking around the country.

73~
Don


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Re: automatic or manual antenna tuner

Steve W3AHL
 

The antenna's RF field couples to everything around it. Any change in the position of the antenna relative to the car's body or other nearby objects (such as traffic, overpasses, people) will affect both the resonant frequency and the impedance. When you are driving, the wind pushes the antenna further away from the car.

A poor RF ground on the antenna mount can also cause the SWR to change erraticaly.

Autotuners can have problems keeping up with rapidly changing SWR on some mobile antennas. Some, like the SGC SG-237 allow you to lock the tuning to avoid retuning everytime a semi passes you or you go through a bridge or overpass. A tunable antenna like the Hi-Q or Tarheel won't exhibit this problem.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "Don" <goldtr8@...> wrote:

I have notice that the SWR on the antenna's after tuning do not hold. Today, I needed my CB for off roading and swapped out my antenna's and connected the 11m with the quick disconnects. After wheeling I reconnected the 20m and the 7000 and my 20m changed tune.

Also I have noticed when stationary the SWR is lower than when moving.

I have searched the internet and have not found a reason for this phenomenon are you able to shed some light on why this is.

Thanks
KD8NNU
Don
..SNIP..


Re: [IC-7000] Re: automatic or manual antenna tuner

D C *Mac* Macdonald
 

When you are moving, the antenna leans back and
its tuning is therefore altered.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK



To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
From: goldtr8@charter.net
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:41:31 +0000
Subject: [IC-7000] Re: automatic or manual antenna tuner

I have notice that the SWR on the antenna's after tuning do not hold. Today, I needed my CB for off roading and swapped out my antenna's and connected the 11m with the quick disconnects. After wheeling I reconnected the 20m and the 7000 and my 20m changed tune.

Also I have noticed when stationary the SWR is lower than when moving.

I have searched the internet and have not found a reason for this phenomenon are you able to shed some light on why this is.

Thanks
KD8NNU
Don


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Re: Jeep throws error codes on dash when driving and transmitting on HF

Steve W3AHL
 

If the radio just started causing this on 20M, try to remember what you changed since it last worked OK. Or maybe it is frequency-sensitive and only happens when the SWR is too high.

You may have a poor RF ground where the antenna mounts to the body (this is REALLY IMPORTANT!). Or you may have a coaxial connector that isn't assembled or soldered quite right, that is causing intermittent high SWR. Or the coax may be routed too close and parallel to your car's wiring harnesses.

You might try to find another ham with experience operating HF mobile to review your installation. Newer hams or ones having little technical background often misunderstand how to make reliable RF cables and ground bonding jumpers, etc.

Try rerouting the coax outside the car to isolate it from the car's wiring. Try powering the radio from an AC supply (assuming you can recreate the problem in your driveway) to eliminate the DC power wiring from your radio to the battery as a problem.

Get a bunch of good HF ferrite chokes made with Type 31 material (not from hamfests or Radio Shack) and clamp several on the feed line near the antenna mount (outside the car). One source is Mouser:

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/catalogUSD/641/931.pdf

Try to bond all body panels to the chassis with short lengths of #6 stranded wire. Start with those close to the antenna with wiring harnesses behind them.

These are the simple things to try. Sometimes it takes a lot of trial and error to find the combination of things causing the problem. But every little problem you fix and connection you improve will usually also result in better signal quality -- both TX and RX.

Steve, W3AHL

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "Don" <goldtr8@...> wrote:

I have a new problem that showed up today.

When driving the jeep and attempting to transmit on 20M with between 60% to 70% power. When I keyed up on USB and started to talk my dash went wild and warning light went on and stayed on.

Basically it starting giving warning chimes, the ESP/BAS light stayed on and the traction control lights stayed on. When I shut the Jeep off and restarted it the lights were cleared. The Jeep did not misfire that I noticed. The Jeep is a 2008 JK Wrangler Rubicon.

I have bonded the tailgate to the body where there hamstick is mounted. Power is run directly to the battery and the radio housing is grounded to the body with a wire.

Any ideas on how to attack such a problem.

This is one tough hobby to figure out for mobile operation. But it is rewarding when I am talking around the country.

73~
Don


Re: automatic or manual antenna tuner

Goldtr8 \(KD8NNU\)
 

I have notice that the SWR on the antenna's after tuning do not hold. Today, I needed my CB for off roading and swapped out my antenna's and connected the 11m with the quick disconnects. After wheeling I reconnected the 20m and the 7000 and my 20m changed tune.

Also I have noticed when stationary the SWR is lower than when moving.

I have searched the internet and have not found a reason for this phenomenon are you able to shed some light on why this is.

Thanks
KD8NNU
Don

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "newsreaderus" <NewsreaderUS@...> wrote:

The last thing you want to be doing is messing with a tuner in the car. That plus SWR can change pretty easily when mobile, especially on the lower bands and an automatic tuner will adjust for that. Go automatic, you'll be glad you did.

Joe

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "Don" <goldtr8@> wrote:

I need to get a tuner for my mobile application with my jeep.

I am trying to decide on a tuner that is automatic or one that is manual.

I dont have lots of experience, so I would like some input.

Right now I am leaning on getting a manual with built in meters so I can monitor output power and reflected power.

Thanks in advance for your comments

KD8NNU
Don

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