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Re: Announced in Dayton?

Adam Farson
 

Hi Mike,

In Europe, the old measures often linger on, but have been rationalised to
the metric system. In Germany, one can still buy "ein Pfund" (one pound) of
potatoes at the greengrocer's. One pound = precisely 0.5 kg. In Bavaria, one
orders "ein Mass Bier" (a measure of beer) at the pub. The "Mass" is a
1-litre mug.

Back to the IC-7000; its weight should be about the same as the IC-706MkIIG
- around 2.5 kg (5.5 lb, US or Imperial.)

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Perryman [mailto:jmperrym@cmdconsulting.com]
Sent: 18 February 2005 11:15
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton?


Just a trivial note.. I grew up in West Texas, and my cousin was the County
Agricultural Extension Agent... he did, and still does measure crops in
rods... Interesting, no?

73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS) [mailto:nv8a@att.net]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:00 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Announced in Dayton?



Arrgh!! You're right. And I am a firm believer in the metric system, even
though living in the USA. My Dutch-born mother-in-law says that if she could
learn the US system at age 40+, everyone else can learn the metric system if
they start in school.

Alan NV8A
(who grew up in the UK, learning about such arcane measures as chains and
"rods, poles or perches")


On 02/18/05 01:51 pm Adam Farson tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

That's 20mm (approx. 0.8"). 20cm is about 8".

(I grew up with the metric system. "Ye kynges ffoote" joined the
stable
much
later in my life.)
20cm (less than an inch) shorter (front to back??), according to the orig.
French article.
Are there any size specs on this radio yet? I wonder if it's going to
be larger, smaller or about the same size as the 706 series.



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Re: Past ICOM patterns?

starmike@...
 

I agree the the USA is the largest market, but when ICOM launched the Pro3, it is available in Europe several months before here in the USA


From: PA3DUV <pa3duv@planet.nl>
Date: 2005/02/18 Fri PM 02:25:32 EST
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Past ICOM patterns?


Re: Past ICOM patterns?

starmike@...
 

I agree the the USA is the largest market, but when ICOM launched the Pro3, it is available in Europe several months before here in the USA


From: PA3DUV <pa3duv@planet.nl>
Date: 2005/02/18 Fri PM 02:25:32 EST
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Past ICOM patterns?


Re: Past ICOM patterns?

PA3DUV
 

Probably the FCC thing...

----- Original Message -----
From: starmike@bellsouth.net
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ic7000] Re: Past ICOM patterns?


I agree the the USA is the largest market, but when ICOM launched the Pro3, it is available in Europe several months before here in the USA

>
> From: PA3DUV <pa3duv@planet.nl>
> Date: 2005/02/18 Fri PM 02:25:32 EST
> To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Past ICOM patterns?
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Re: Past ICOM patterns?

Ken Kinyon <w7ts@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: PA3DUV [mailto:pa3duv@planet.nl]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:57
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [ic7000] Re: Past ICOM patterns?


Probably the FCC thing...
You are 100% right. It takes quite a while to get a new transmitter
approved in the USA.
Regards,
Ken W7TS


Re: Past ICOM patterns?

jdow <jdow@...>
 

I've heard not long ago that Japan was actually the largest amateur radio
market in the world with significantly more amateurs than the US.

This might bear looking into.
{^_^}

----- Original Message -----
From: <starmike@bellsouth.net>

I agree the the USA is the largest market, but when ICOM launched the
Pro3, it is available in Europe several months before here in the USA


FCC approval

chuck maurer <lomaurer@...>
 

Has anyone searched the FCC website for documents
concerning the approval cycle required by the FCC for
type acceptance or whatever they call it. This
process takes several months and must be done prior to
US marketing. The problem is knowing what ICOM called
the 7000 when they submitted it to the FCC. It could
be under a code name.
Chuck
KE5DMF


Re: FCC approval

Per Eriksson <sm4xiu@...>
 

As the french article said, the picture is taken from the drawing board.

I don’t think that the new brick exist in one single copy yet….



/Per

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Has anyone searched the FCC website for documents
concerning the approval cycle required by the FCC for
type acceptance or whatever they call it. This
process takes several months and must be done prior to
US marketing. The problem is knowing what ICOM called
the 7000 when they submitted it to the FCC. It could
be under a code name.
Chuck
KE5DMF



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Re: FCC approval

Keith LaBorde - K4KAL <k4kal@...>
 

My contacts say the radio exists already.
We will probably see it under the glass at Dayton 2005 this year.

Keith, K4KAL

----- Original Message -----
From: Per Eriksson
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: SV: [ic7000] FCC approval


As the french article said, the picture is taken from the drawing board.

I don't think that the new brick exist in one single copy yet..



/Per

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Has anyone searched the FCC website for documents
concerning the approval cycle required by the FCC for
type acceptance or whatever they call it. This
process takes several months and must be done prior to
US marketing. The problem is knowing what ICOM called
the 7000 when they submitted it to the FCC. It could
be under a code name.
Chuck
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Re: Past ICOM patterns?

Brian Mury <ve7ngr@...>
 

On Fri, 2005-18-02 at 12:11 -0800, jdow wrote:
I've heard not long ago that Japan was actually the largest amateur radio
market in the world with significantly more amateurs than the US.
Ah - you beat me to it! Japan is indeed the largest market. Japan has
about half of the world's radio amateurs! The US has about 25%. The rest
of the countries have around 2% or less.

--
73, Brian
VE7NGR


Re: Past ICOM patterns?

Dr. Howard S. White <drpaper@...>
 

Yes they have had code free ham licenses for years and did not have disincentive licensing....

.....which has sparked the spectacular growth of Ham Radio and the associated electronics business...

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 AE6SM
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
"Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ic7000] Re: Past ICOM patterns?


I've heard not long ago that Japan was actually the largest amateur radio
market in the world with significantly more amateurs than the US.

This might bear looking into.
{^_^}
----- Original Message -----
From: <starmike@bellsouth.net>
>
> I agree the the USA is the largest market, but when ICOM launched the
Pro3, it is available in Europe several months before here in the USA
>




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Re: FCC approval

gregory fox
 

Ic 7000 is not for TX only Rx some one have got model numbers wrong
But .Thier is R 7000 model out have seen on a website.Yes
keith you are right in a way this radio has software problems
I read on some website the Rx frequency go up to 10000mz
this on rx model

I will have second look around the Web

gregory Mi3CDF


Keith LaBorde - K4KAL <k4kal@arrl.net> wrote:
My contacts say the radio exists already.
We will probably see it under the glass at Dayton 2005 this year.

Keith, K4KAL

----- Original Message -----
From: Per Eriksson
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: SV: [ic7000] FCC approval


As the french article said, the picture is taken from the drawing board.

I don't think that the new brick exist in one single copy yet..



/Per

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concerning the approval cycle required by the FCC for
type acceptance or whatever they call it. This
process takes several months and must be done prior to
US marketing. The problem is knowing what ICOM called
the 7000 when they submitted it to the FCC. It could
be under a code name.
Chuck
KE5DMF



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Re: Price of the IC-7000

Adam Farson
 

Hi Peter,

As far as I can determine without the schematics, the 756Pro3 uses the same
DSP, ADC and DAC as the 756Pro2. It has been reported that the noise
reduction is superior to that of the Pro2; this may suggest a slightly
faster DSP.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter [mailto:hb9pjt@uska.ch]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 13:40
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ic7000] Re: Price of the IC-7000




Adam, does the 756ProIII not have a more powerfull DSP than the
ProII?

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Buck,

Yes, the IC-7000 will use DSP filtering in the final IF. This is
the same
technology as used in the IC-756Pro series, the IC-746Pro/7400 and
the
IC-7800.

http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/icom/pro_dsp.html

The ultimate performance of the DSP-IF subsystem - dynamic range,
noise
floor, filter shape factors, noise reduction etc. is a function
of the ADC
(analogue/digital converter) which is the interface between the
analogue
RF/IF chain and the DSP. The faster the DSP chip, the better the
filter
shape factors, NR etc. are likely to be. All the current Icom DSP-
based
radios use a 24-bit ADC and DAC and a 32-bit floating-point DSP.
The 756Pro
series uses the ADI SHARC, whilst the 746Pro and 7800 use faster
TI devices.
The ADC used in the 756Pro series has a slightly better noise
floor than
that of the 746Pro. The 7800 uses very high-quality ADC's which
are rather
costly.

The demands placed on the DAC (digital/analogue converter are
rather less
than those which the ADC has to meet, although the DAC plays an
important
role in setting the dynamic range of the transmitter. The ADC is
the key to
the receiver; if it degrades the incoming IF signal, all that
information is
lost forever and cannot be recovered.

There are a number of articles covering these topics (and others)
on my Icom
page.

http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/icom/icom.html

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ


-----Original Message-----
From: Buck (N4PGW) [mailto:na4fm-list@t...]
Sent: 16 February 2005 05:58
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ic7000] Price of the IC-7000


Hello to all and thank you to the moderator of this reflector.

Ever since I have seen the IC-7000, I have been reading and
talking about
it. Like most of us here, I have considered it the new IC-706
radio but
after all I have read and seen, I have begun to think that 7000 is
to the
706 what the 756 pro is to the 746 pro.

What weighs most strongly is the fact that it will use electronic
filtering
rather than the crystal lattice filter. If I recall, isn't this
the same
filtering technology used in the IC-7800, the $10,000 radio?

From what I gather, the 706 is the most popular mobile HF radio on
the
market with sales greatly exceeding its runner-up. Right now it
sells for
about $800 US. I realize that the cost of technology drops over
time, and
with inflation, prices rise a bit, but at this point I am
wondering if the
rig might not be priced considerably higher than the 706. Around
here, a
few hams are thinking it will be in the $1500 US range.

What do you all think?

Buck
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Manual

w1lso <w1lso@...>
 

Hello, would you please point me to the link?

I have a fast broadband connection but cannot get to the published
sites!

Thanks,

Laurier St.Onge ( W1LSO )



--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark - AA6DX" <aa6dx@a...> wrote:
Hi all .. wow, what a busy group for its age! HIHI ... you know, I
love the looks of what I've seen in the pix .. I downloaded the
manual, etc ... my problem is age is taking its toll on my eyes, an
I can just picture going down the road trying to take advantage of
the mini screen on the 7ØØØ ---- and if it's there, I want to use
it .. HIHI This would be a great time for someone (not me!) to jump
in and manufacture a great accessory, a plug-in flat BIG SCREEN
(12VDC) monitor that replicates (?) the face of the rig .. ..
something one could Velcro to the dash, etc..... an entrepreneur
could make a killing!
I have been using (by choice) my MKIIG as a home station for the
last few months just to really learn to run it, which is hard to do
while mobile. I have been very impressed with its capabilities
during contests, etc... Right after I get my new PROIII in a
couple months, I will start a piggy bank for a 7ØØØ if it pans out.
73, and Howdy! to all -- Mark, AA6DX Eureka, FAR
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA



Pix and Data of IC-7000 in English please.

Ya`akov N. Miles <ve7alq@...>
 

I have a picture of the IC-7000 and the specifications in French
available as a download from ftp://ftp.yehudi.ca/ham-radio/ic-7000.pdf
I was wondering if anyone has a picture of the IC-7000 and
specifications in English, and if they did, then upload it to the
directory "incoming" Many many people have visited my web site just
to pick up the ic-7000.pdf file, and I am sure they are not all fluent
in French(!)

Is the ic-7000 group going to set up a file area?


Re: Pix and Data of IC-7000 in English please.

Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS) <nv8a@...>
 

Somebody else already did an English summary of the features:

http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/icom/ic7000.html

(seems to be down at present)

Alan NV8A


On 02/19/05 01:38 pm Ya`akov N. Miles tossed the following ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

I have a picture of the IC-7000 and the specifications in French
available as a download from ftp://ftp.yehudi.ca/ham-radio/ic-7000.pdf
I was wondering if anyone has a picture of the IC-7000 and
specifications in English, and if they did, then upload it to the
directory "incoming" Many many people have visited my web site just
to pick up the ic-7000.pdf file, and I am sure they are not all fluent
in French(!)
Is the ic-7000 group going to set up a file area?


Re: Pix and Data of IC-7000 in English please.

Adam Farson
 

Hi Ya'akov,

Here is the English translation:

http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/icom/ic7000.html

Mirror site:

http://members.shaw.ca/farson/misc/ic7000.html

We may set up a file area later on, once the IC-7000 has been released.

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Moderator, Yahoo! ic7000 Group

-----Original Message-----
From: Ya`akov N. Miles [mailto:ve7alq@arrl.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:38
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ic7000] Pix and Data of IC-7000 in English please.




I have a picture of the IC-7000 and the specifications in French
available as a download from ftp://ftp.yehudi.ca/ham-radio/ic-7000.pdf
I was wondering if anyone has a picture of the IC-7000 and
specifications in English, and if they did, then upload it to the
directory "incoming" Many many people have visited my web site just
to pick up the ic-7000.pdf file, and I am sure they are not all fluent
in French(!)

Is the ic-7000 group going to set up a file area?






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Re: Price of the IC-7000

Peter Sidler - HB9PJT
 

Thanks Adam. IC-756proII has not a very powerfull DSP. We will see.

73, Peter

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Peter,

As far as I can determine without the schematics, the 756Pro3 uses
the same
DSP, ADC and DAC as the 756Pro2. It has been reported that the
noise
reduction is superior to that of the Pro2; this may suggest a
slightly
faster DSP.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ




-----Original Message-----
From: Peter [mailto:hb9pjt@u...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 13:40
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ic7000] Re: Price of the IC-7000




Adam, does the 756ProIII not have a more powerfull DSP than the
ProII?

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Buck,

Yes, the IC-7000 will use DSP filtering in the final IF. This is
the same
technology as used in the IC-756Pro series, the IC-746Pro/7400
and
the
IC-7800.

http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/icom/pro_dsp.html

The ultimate performance of the DSP-IF subsystem - dynamic range,
noise
floor, filter shape factors, noise reduction etc. is a function
of the ADC
(analogue/digital converter) which is the interface between the
analogue
RF/IF chain and the DSP. The faster the DSP chip, the better the
filter
shape factors, NR etc. are likely to be. All the current Icom
DSP-
based
radios use a 24-bit ADC and DAC and a 32-bit floating-point DSP.
The 756Pro
series uses the ADI SHARC, whilst the 746Pro and 7800 use faster
TI devices.
The ADC used in the 756Pro series has a slightly better noise
floor than
that of the 746Pro. The 7800 uses very high-quality ADC's which
are rather
costly.

The demands placed on the DAC (digital/analogue converter are
rather less
than those which the ADC has to meet, although the DAC plays an
important
role in setting the dynamic range of the transmitter. The ADC is
the key to
the receiver; if it degrades the incoming IF signal, all that
information is
lost forever and cannot be recovered.

There are a number of articles covering these topics (and others)
on my Icom
page.

http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/icom/icom.html

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ


-----Original Message-----
From: Buck (N4PGW) [mailto:na4fm-list@t...]
Sent: 16 February 2005 05:58
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ic7000] Price of the IC-7000


Hello to all and thank you to the moderator of this reflector.

Ever since I have seen the IC-7000, I have been reading and
talking about
it. Like most of us here, I have considered it the new IC-706
radio but
after all I have read and seen, I have begun to think that 7000
is
to the
706 what the 756 pro is to the 746 pro.

What weighs most strongly is the fact that it will use electronic
filtering
rather than the crystal lattice filter. If I recall, isn't this
the same
filtering technology used in the IC-7800, the $10,000 radio?

From what I gather, the 706 is the most popular mobile HF radio
on
the
market with sales greatly exceeding its runner-up. Right now it
sells for
about $800 US. I realize that the cost of technology drops over
time, and
with inflation, prices rise a bit, but at this point I am
wondering if the
rig might not be priced considerably higher than the 706. Around
here, a
few hams are thinking it will be in the $1500 US range.

What do you all think?

Buck
N4PGW




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Re: Pix and Data of IC-7000 in English please.

w1lso <w1lso@...>
 

Ah, many thanks I thought it was my PC.

Well, having looked at the French documentation and able to stumble
along and interpret the specs... Icom may have come close to my wish
list.

Owning a Mark V, VX-5R, FT7800 and a prior owner of 706 MkIIG for
mobile use, my wish list of features for a 'car' sized rig is as
follows:

A) 1000 memories and multiple bank groupins so that it can be used
as a scanner like my FT-7800 can do.

B) Be able to scan Up or Down with a simple knob turn like most
Yaesu allow

C) Better display like that presented... Hope Icom learns how to
design the LCD driver circuits though!!!!!!

D) A CAT interface that make SENSE instead of the crippled MkIIG
limited capabilities

E) KEEP the SWR graphing capabilies but also support 144/430 here

F) Keep all of the current 706 MkIIG features like the Ts etc...

G) Add basspand tuning as well as the ability to setup filter width!

H) AND MY BIG GRIPE --- ALLOW THE 'TAGS' TO BE CONTINUOULY VISIBLE
AS WELL AS FREQUENCY so that when you scan, you get BOTH on the
display! The 706 MkIIG was a real PAIN in this regard, you needed to
rotate through the S2 (Scan) and G4(tag display) menus to do that!


Look, the 706MkIIG was (and is) a great HF rig as the numerous
contacts that I have made with the corresponding reply "I cannot
believe you are mobile" will attest to... BTW -- with a 20m hamstick!
BUT, I am looking for 1 rig that can act in multiple roles one of
which is a scanner!

After purchasing a Bearcat non-trunking scanner, I can see the
obvious differences BUT having tons of memory and groups would
definetly fill my needs in this area.

Tuning car mounted hamstick with a 706 was a real simple thing!
Seeing what the SWR (as a graph and having it remembered) is also
really nice!

A tuner would be a plus BUT with the above tuned hamsticks, 15..10m
really didn't need a tuner in my setup!

Bottom line, I want the ease of the 706MkIIG tuning when going down
the road BUT I want more features when I'm parked and waiting for
the XYL to finish her shopping!!!

Still waiting for the qsl website so I can look at files...

73,
W1LSO


Re: Pix and Data of IC-7000 in English please. (erratum)

Adam Farson
 

Correct link for mirror site of English-language IC-7000 page. Apologies for
the typographic error.

http://members.shaw.ca/farson/misc/ic7000.htm

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group


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