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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Charles & Sandra Cohen
 

With connections to both the DATA (13-pin) and 6-pin DIN jack:

. . . Is it possible that the IC-7000 is getting a PTT signal on the 6-pin DIN jack,
. . . . and audio on the 13-pin DATA jack,

. . . and that it ignores the 13-pin DATA jack audio signal, because of the PTT on 6-pin DIN ?

Try switching things around so that both PTT and audio are coming in via the same jack.

.   Charles / va7cpc

PS -- I should have a manual reference for this.  I remember it as a problem on some rigs, but haven't checked it for the IC-7000.


Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Glenn Jensen
 

Bill,

Mine is simply in USB mode - with the interface connected to port in the rear of the rig.

73's


Glenn


On 8/24/2021 6:42 PM, Bill Storey via groups.io wrote:
Do you have to put the radio into usb-d mode?, or am I confusing this with the 746 pro?

Would you believe? Sent from my shoe phone's big brother and still no keyboard.  Please excuse auto connections caused by typhoons. 






Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Bill Storey
 

Do you have to put the radio into usb-d mode?, or am I confusing this with the 746 pro?

Would you believe? Sent from my shoe phone's big brother and still no keyboard. Please excuse auto connections caused by typhoons.


Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Glenn Jensen
 

Thanks Carl….

more questions / advice (before you tear the rig apart)

 

  1. have you ever been able to work digital modes with your 7K (or any rig)?
  2. do you have anything other than the Unitek Y-247A?
  3. are you intimately familiar with Linux?
    1. Make sure that pulseaudio has not switched out your ports (see picture below – from HamPi)
  4. Get PSK (on FLDigi) or FT8 on WSJTX/JTDX working first



 

https://support.hamradiodeluxe.com/support/solutions/articles/51000052603-interfaces-for-digital-modes

Should be electrically isolated from the rig…. Best practices



 

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of Carl N1MRV via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 5:58 PM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL

 

JD - going in through DATA connector, 6 pin DIN, and separate CAT cable.  I’m trying to get one of the AX.25 programs working, so I can try on FM, which will be a different modulator.

 

Glenn - yeah I should try JTDX.  Trying to get AX.25 going, as this would go through an FM modulator, see if that works. I’m using HamPi, with a simple USB sound card, Unitek Y-247A.



On Aug 23, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Glenn Jensen <WA6BJQ@...> wrote:

 

CB – before you rip the rig apart… does your configuration support other digital modes (i.e. PSK, FT-8, Olivia, etc)?  Are you using any sort of commercial interface between the computer and your rig (i.e. a RIGblaster or SignalLink)?  Are you simply trying to connect PC audio to the 13-pin port – missed that in your config.

My configuration (with the 7K) works just fine, feeding it with a RIGblaster PNP.  In my case, I also have a separate USB CAT cable (because I use this on Ubuntu and macOS in addition to Win10 (RIGblaster virtualizes the USB to provide the audio interface and CAT from a single USB connection (only on Win10)). 

73’s,


Glenn

 

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of Carl N1MRV via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 2:33 PM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL

 

Thanks for the response.

 

I’m using CAT control and everything there works.  In fact, I can hit TUNE on JS8CALL, radio goes into transmit, and will modulate my voice from the speaker mic.

 

It’s really weird.  I can use the monitor function on ic-7000 and hear the tune tone and the JS8 worble… so really, the audio is making it into the ic-7000, and out the speaker somehow!  But it’s not modulating the SSB. 

 

The manual p 116 says make the data signal 0.4Vp-p and I’ve verified with my oscilloscope.

 

Time to take the radio apart!!!!

…. actually, before that, I’m going to hook up a function generator to the data in, and see what happens. 

CB

 




On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Charles & Sandra Cohen via groups.io <cpcohen1945@...> wrote:

 

The problem is probably that your software isn't telling the IC-7000 to go into XMIT mode.

Check the settings in JS8CALL, see how it is doing XMIT / RCV switching, and check that whatever it does on the DATA port matches what the IC-7000 expects.  I'm pretty sure there _is_ a "PTT" line in both the 6-pin and 13-pin DATA jacks.

Unfortunately, Icom didn't put a "digital VOX" capability into the IC-7000.

>>>
The tune button on JS8CALL software also does not cause modulation (radio does go to TX, controlled by CAT)
>>>

Ahh -- if the JS8CALL "Tune" button puts the IC-7000 into XMIT mode, but there's no power output from the rig:

. . . Check that you're using the correct pin on the DATA jack -- I think it's called "MOD" (modulator input),
. . . and that you're in USB mode, 
. . . and, if there's a menu item that switches between MIC and DATA, that it's set to DATA.

.   Charles / va7cpc

 

 

 


Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Carl KO4SSA
 

JD - going in through DATA connector, 6 pin DIN, and separate CAT cable.  I’m trying to get one of the AX.25 programs working, so I can try on FM, which will be a different modulator.

Glenn - yeah I should try JTDX.  Trying to get AX.25 going, as this would go through an FM modulator, see if that works. I’m using HamPi, with a simple USB sound card, Unitek Y-247A.

On Aug 23, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Glenn Jensen <WA6BJQ@...> wrote:

CB – before you rip the rig apart… does your configuration support other digital modes (i.e. PSK, FT-8, Olivia, etc)?  Are you using any sort of commercial interface between the computer and your rig (i.e. a RIGblaster or SignalLink)?  Are you simply trying to connect PC audio to the 13-pin port – missed that in your config.

My configuration (with the 7K) works just fine, feeding it with a RIGblaster PNP.  In my case, I also have a separate USB CAT cable (because I use this on Ubuntu and macOS in addition to Win10 (RIGblaster virtualizes the USB to provide the audio interface and CAT from a single USB connection (only on Win10)). 

73’s,


Glenn

 

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of Carl N1MRV via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 2:33 PM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL

 

Thanks for the response.

 

I’m using CAT control and everything there works.  In fact, I can hit TUNE on JS8CALL, radio goes into transmit, and will modulate my voice from the speaker mic.

 

It’s really weird.  I can use the monitor function on ic-7000 and hear the tune tone and the JS8 worble… so really, the audio is making it into the ic-7000, and out the speaker somehow!  But it’s not modulating the SSB. 

 

The manual p 116 says make the data signal 0.4Vp-p and I’ve verified with my oscilloscope.

 

Time to take the radio apart!!!!

…. actually, before that, I’m going to hook up a function generator to the data in, and see what happens. 

CB

 



On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Charles & Sandra Cohen via groups.io <cpcohen1945@...> wrote:

 

The problem is probably that your software isn't telling the IC-7000 to go into XMIT mode.

Check the settings in JS8CALL, see how it is doing XMIT / RCV switching, and check that whatever it does on the DATA port matches what the IC-7000 expects.  I'm pretty sure there _is_ a "PTT" line in both the 6-pin and 13-pin DATA jacks.

Unfortunately, Icom didn't put a "digital VOX" capability into the IC-7000.

>>>
The tune button on JS8CALL software also does not cause modulation (radio does go to TX, controlled by CAT)
>>>

Ahh -- if the JS8CALL "Tune" button puts the IC-7000 into XMIT mode, but there's no power output from the rig:

. . . Check that you're using the correct pin on the DATA jack -- I think it's called "MOD" (modulator input),
. . . and that you're in USB mode, 
. . . and, if there's a menu item that switches between MIC and DATA, that it's set to DATA.

.   Charles / va7cpc

 




Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Glenn Jensen
 

CB – before you rip the rig apart… does your configuration support other digital modes (i.e. PSK, FT-8, Olivia, etc)?  Are you using any sort of commercial interface between the computer and your rig (i.e. a RIGblaster or SignalLink)?  Are you simply trying to connect PC audio to the 13-pin port – missed that in your config.

My configuration (with the 7K) works just fine, feeding it with a RIGblaster PNP.  In my case, I also have a separate USB CAT cable (because I use this on Ubuntu and macOS in addition to Win10 (RIGblaster virtualizes the USB to provide the audio interface and CAT from a single USB connection (only on Win10)). 

73’s,


Glenn

 

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of Carl N1MRV via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 2:33 PM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL

 

Thanks for the response.

 

I’m using CAT control and everything there works.  In fact, I can hit TUNE on JS8CALL, radio goes into transmit, and will modulate my voice from the speaker mic.

 

It’s really weird.  I can use the monitor function on ic-7000 and hear the tune tone and the JS8 worble… so really, the audio is making it into the ic-7000, and out the speaker somehow!  But it’s not modulating the SSB. 

 

The manual p 116 says make the data signal 0.4Vp-p and I’ve verified with my oscilloscope.

 

Time to take the radio apart!!!!

…. actually, before that, I’m going to hook up a function generator to the data in, and see what happens. 

CB

 



On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Charles & Sandra Cohen via groups.io <cpcohen1945@...> wrote:

 

The problem is probably that your software isn't telling the IC-7000 to go into XMIT mode.

Check the settings in JS8CALL, see how it is doing XMIT / RCV switching, and check that whatever it does on the DATA port matches what the IC-7000 expects.  I'm pretty sure there _is_ a "PTT" line in both the 6-pin and 13-pin DATA jacks.

Unfortunately, Icom didn't put a "digital VOX" capability into the IC-7000.

>>>
The tune button on JS8CALL software also does not cause modulation (radio does go to TX, controlled by CAT)
>>>

Ahh -- if the JS8CALL "Tune" button puts the IC-7000 into XMIT mode, but there's no power output from the rig:

. . . Check that you're using the correct pin on the DATA jack -- I think it's called "MOD" (modulator input),
. . . and that you're in USB mode, 
. . . and, if there's a menu item that switches between MIC and DATA, that it's set to DATA.

.   Charles / va7cpc

 


Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

 

What connector are you feeding the audio into? The book says that the front mike is disconnected win digital. Perhaps the audio signals are not going into the proper pins?
Does it work on WSJT-X?
1 DATA IN Input terminal for data transmit. (1200 bps: AFSK/9600 bps: G3RUH, GMSK)
2 GND Common ground for DATA IN, DATA OUT and AF OUT.
3 PTT P PTT terminal for packet operation. Connect to ground to activate the transmitter. When grounded, microphone input (pin 6) of [MIC] connector will be disconnected.
4 DATA OUT Data out terminal for 9600 bps operation only.
5 AF OUT Data out terminal for 1200 bps operation only.
6 SQL Squelch out terminal. This pin is grounded when the transceiver receives a signal which opens the squelch. • To avoid interfering transmissions, connect squelch to the TNC to inhibit transmission when squelch is open. • Keep RF gain at a normal level, otherwise a “SQL” signal will not be output


Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Carl KO4SSA
 

Thanks for the response.

I’m using CAT control and everything there works.  In fact, I can hit TUNE on JS8CALL, radio goes into transmit, and will modulate my voice from the speaker mic.

It’s really weird.  I can use the monitor function on ic-7000 and hear the tune tone and the JS8 worble… so really, the audio is making it into the ic-7000, and out the speaker somehow!  But it’s not modulating the SSB. 

The manual p 116 says make the data signal 0.4Vp-p and I’ve verified with my oscilloscope.

Time to take the radio apart!!!!
…. actually, before that, I’m going to hook up a function generator to the data in, and see what happens. 
CB


On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Charles & Sandra Cohen via groups.io <cpcohen1945@...> wrote:

The problem is probably that your software isn't telling the IC-7000 to go into XMIT mode.

Check the settings in JS8CALL, see how it is doing XMIT / RCV switching, and check that whatever it does on the DATA port matches what the IC-7000 expects.  I'm pretty sure there _is_ a "PTT" line in both the 6-pin and 13-pin DATA jacks.

Unfortunately, Icom didn't put a "digital VOX" capability into the IC-7000.

>>>
The tune button on JS8CALL software also does not cause modulation (radio does go to TX, controlled by CAT)
>>>

Ahh -- if the JS8CALL "Tune" button puts the IC-7000 into XMIT mode, but there's no power output from the rig:

. . . Check that you're using the correct pin on the DATA jack -- I think it's called "MOD" (modulator input),
. . . and that you're in USB mode, 
. . . and, if there's a menu item that switches between MIC and DATA, that it's set to DATA.

.   Charles / va7cpc


Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL

Charles & Sandra Cohen
 

The problem is probably that your software isn't telling the IC-7000 to go into XMIT mode.

Check the settings in JS8CALL, see how it is doing XMIT / RCV switching, and check that whatever it does on the DATA port matches what the IC-7000 expects.  I'm pretty sure there _is_ a "PTT" line in both the 6-pin and 13-pin DATA jacks.

Unfortunately, Icom didn't put a "digital VOX" capability into the IC-7000.

>>>
The tune button on JS8CALL software also does not cause modulation (radio does go to TX, controlled by CAT)
>>>

Ahh -- if the JS8CALL "Tune" button puts the IC-7000 into XMIT mode, but there's no power output from the rig:

. . . Check that you're using the correct pin on the DATA jack -- I think it's called "MOD" (modulator input),
. . . and that you're in USB mode, 
. . . and, if there's a menu item that switches between MIC and DATA, that it's set to DATA.

.   Charles / va7cpc


No TX audio on JS8CALL

Carl KO4SSA
 

Hi Team

I have an IC-7000, transmits well with hand mic both FM and SSB. Transmits Tune tone well.

When using JS8CALL, audio is not getting onto the signal, I see no power fluctuation on the meter.
I’m using the DATA port, receiving and decoding signals fine.
I’ve verified the audio signal is present all the way to the pin on the DATA connector, using oscilloscope.
The tune button on JS8CALL software also does not cause modulation (radio does go to TX, controlled by CAT)

Now get this: I use the monitor function on the IC-7000, and I hear the JS8CALL tones on the 7300!! So the signal is getting to the radio.

Do I have a DATA socket problem??



Carl
KO4SSA


Re: clock battery

Steve W3AHL
 

Yes, the ML920S/DN works fine.  It has the same surface mount tabs as the /F9D.  The only difference is the coin cell has an insulating wrap around it, which is fine.  The price at digikey.com is $2.18 USD, quantity 1.

Just be carefull not to short the leads together when handling.  Use ESD protection when handling any PCB, but especially the Logic board.

Steve, W3AHL


Re: clock battery

 

I believe it is in the silver logic unit, left rear top of the radio. From bad memory. 


On Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 4:41 PM John Allen via groups.io <n0ja54=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Where is the clock battery in an IC7000?


Re: clock battery

John Allen
 

Where is the clock battery in an IC7000?


clock battery

 

Looking for a photo of the ML920S/F9D to see if is the same as the ML920S/DN Panasonic battery because i can but it here in Canada for $4.98 .


Re: protection in rig if SWR is high

Don Rolph
 

My understanding is:

- if it is running SSB on HF, then SWR is fed to ALC and audio, and hence output, throttled back to protect the front ends.

This protection is not available on AM,CW, or FM.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 9:25 PM VK3SQ - Geoff <vk3sq@...> wrote:
Greetings all. If the SWR is high what does the 7000 do; eg does it shut down, reduce power what! Thanks for your replies.

73 de Geoff vk3sq



--

73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph


Re: protection in rig if SWR is high

Joe Krout
 

By design, it is supposed to reduce output power, however...

My experience has been that at high power levels, it will blow the driver transistor. 

To help avoid an expensive repair,  reduce power to 10 watts or less for initial tuning, and monitor your SWR as you slowly increase power.

I also find using a good external auto-tuner with the correct interface cable is wise.  I use an LDG IT-100 tuner.

73
Joe KR0UT 


Re: protection in rig if SWR is high

Michel MNR
 

Il réduit sa puissance en HF.

73's de Michel  F6FSC


Le mardi 3 août 2021, 03:25:36 UTC+2, VK3SQ - Geoff <vk3sq@...> a écrit :


Salutations à tous. Si le SWR est élevé, que fait le 7000 ? par exemple est-ce qu'il s'éteint, réduit la puissance quoi ! Merci pour vos réponses.

73 de Geoff vk3sq


protection in rig if SWR is high

VK3SQ - Geoff
 

Greetings all. If the SWR is high what does the 7000 do; eg does it shut down, reduce power what! Thanks for your replies.

73 de Geoff vk3sq


Re: Stays in Transmit

Pasquale S
 

Hi guys

 

In my case was R1124 fault, as I wrote to Steve 😊

 

In this link, in a local forum in Italy, I have described this problem.

 

You can use google translate for english Language.

 

http://95.110.202.73/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=319148

 

73s Pasquale IW0HEX

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Norris W5KI
Sent: venerdì 30 luglio 2021 20:31
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Stays in Transmit

 

Sorry for delay in followup to group on my problem.  Lots of more pressing recovery issues in the shack.

Pasquale (IW0HEX) was correct.  And the other replies that suggested the issue was likely near the point of entry were also.  As previously said, the menu items, power output (by keying on CW), etc are normal.  Since Pin 3 (HSEND) is an input/output control, I applied the +2 to +20 volts (high range) to the HSEND (pin 3) and the rig goes into receive.  All receive functions and sensitivity appear normal.

The .png didn't come through on his original message, so I have asked Pasquale off the group to send me the part number for that resistor.

Not sure I'm up to the task of such small work anymore, but figure some local friends with better skills can help if need be.  Will close out at a future date, when all is hopefully back to normal.

Thanks for the replies.

Steve, W5KI

 

 

On 20-Jul-21 11:14, Pasquale S via groups.io wrote:

Some times ago I repaird an IC-7000 with the same iusse, Led TX Red always on.

The owner said me that issue was during a storm with lightning and he used a item link on ACC port. I thought there is a issue on logic board and it was right.

Check on SEND line to ACC port from logic board (CPU), you will find a pullup resistor; I found this resistor opened so SEND line in RX wasn’t on 5 volt but 0 and the result was LED TX on.

Sorry for my english.

Regards

Pasquale IW0HEX

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Norris W5KI
Sent: lunedì 19 luglio 2021 21:06
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: [ic7000] Stays in Transmit

 

Hi.  Looked for any past posts, but didn't find them. 

Before the problem below developed, all control cables and coax disconnected (due to approaching storms), I have a disconnect area outside the house about 20 feet away.  I place the "house" bundle about 2 feet way from antenna area bundle of coax and various control lines to rotor, switches, etc.  SUSTAINED a lightning strike on the densely wooded hill behind me, may have hit an antenna, all 150 feet away.  But you could smell burnt wood, so some tree was hit.  Steep, rocky climb so not been up there yet. 

Results:  Wire damage and blown connector to the outdoor phone cable used.  This at the "disconnected end" of that remote switch run.  No other visible damage.  Inside, besides coming out of the chair from sound/flash from strike, no visible damage.  The lights barely blinked.  Multiple TVs, electronics in the house, and ALMOST all the equipment in the shack is still fine.  (1) The station PC is dead.  YES ... audio, data, etc cables, connect EVERYTHING else in the shack to that PC.  Not the power supply, so the motherboard and beyond suspected.  

But to the point, (2) the backup IC-7000 TX light stays lit RED, no sound out of speakers.   Output is fine.  CW keys.  SSB voice peaks show.  RTTY & FM go to normal power out.  All navigation through menus is normal.  I did a hard reset but same situation after that.  All connectors to the rig removed except for antenna coax -- and key during CW test, and Mic just for SSB test.

Any ideas?  Since all functioning of the unit otherwise looks good, power, processor, etc. ...  I hate to send it off before asking here.  Thanks.

Steve, W5KI

 

 


Re: DMR ?

Hank Blackstock <w5hj1@...>
 

Of course that is not te same thing as a DMR capable radio at least IMHO.


Hank Blackstock 

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On Saturday, July 31, 2021, 7:44 PM, MICHAEL WILDER via groups.io <mewilder901@...> wrote:

You would have to go through something like an open spot three. 

Mike


On Jul 31, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Hank Blackstock via groups.io <w5hj1@...> wrote:


As far I know no Icom radios are DMR capable.

Hank Blackstock


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On Jul 31, 2021, at 6:02 PM, LeRoy Prosic <lprosic@...> wrote:

Will the ic777 work on DMR ?

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