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IC7000 No power on, no relay click

Steve Kent
 

Hi all:

Pulled the radio out of storage and attempted to power up the rig and it is completely dead. I have verified 13V at the PA board and 3.3V at the regulator on the CPU board.

I traced the PWRK signal to the CPU and I see it pull down to GND from 3.3V when the power button is depressed. The POWS signal that drives the power relay is high at 3.3V and never changes state.

Most of the power on problems that I have read about with this rig have to do with the power relay clicking, which is different than the way this rig is operating,or not operating.

Regards & 73,
Steve - KW5CQ


Re: IC-7000 First Time Use

Glenn Jensen
 

Hi Doug,

I use the RT Systems Cable for programming and rig control (CAT functions)

My installation leverages a Rigblaster PnP (on it's own USB port) - where the PnP plugs into the accessories port on the IC7000.

Works perfectly - using all Ham Software (including Linux and OSX).

73's - Glenn

p.s. - see '13 pin accessory port - https://www.tigertronics.com/sl_wirebm.htm#ICOM


On 1/3/21 7:32 AM, Doug Henry wrote:
Greetings, I recently acquired a used IC-7000 in good condition. I just ordered the RT Systems software and cable for memory programming. 

I also have the CT-17 CI-V unit without cables and a USB type Signalink. I believe I need these for CAT control and digital work but I'm unsure how they should be connected. Is there a site showing how these components should be interconnected to the radio?

73 Doug VE1ZG


Re: IC-7000 First Time Use

Greg Engle
 

I should have added…

You can use this cable for the CI-V too but not with the RT Systems software. Their cable is proprietary to their software.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004L0T4UM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Henry
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 7:33 AM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: [ic7000] IC-7000 First Time Use

 

Greetings, I recently acquired a used IC-7000 in good condition. I just ordered the RT Systems software and cable for memory programming. 

 

I also have the CT-17 CI-V unit without cables and a USB type Signalink. I believe I need these for CAT control and digital work but I'm unsure how they should be connected. Is there a site showing how these components should be interconnected to the radio?

 

73 Doug VE1ZG


Re: IC-7000 First Time Use

Greg Engle
 

Doug,

 

You can buy the interface cable for the Signalink for the IC7000. Direct connection to the data port.

For the CI-V, the CT-17 isn’t necessary unless you want to use the DB25 connector to connect to your computer.

You can use the RT Systems cable to connect the CI-V to your computer too using the USB interface.

 

For cable connections go to the ICOM site and download the manual.

 

Greg

NZ6E

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Henry
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 7:33 AM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: [ic7000] IC-7000 First Time Use

 

Greetings, I recently acquired a used IC-7000 in good condition. I just ordered the RT Systems software and cable for memory programming. 

 

I also have the CT-17 CI-V unit without cables and a USB type Signalink. I believe I need these for CAT control and digital work but I'm unsure how they should be connected. Is there a site showing how these components should be interconnected to the radio?

 

73 Doug VE1ZG


IC-7000 First Time Use

Doug Henry
 

Greetings, I recently acquired a used IC-7000 in good condition. I just ordered the RT Systems software and cable for memory programming. 

I also have the CT-17 CI-V unit without cables and a USB type Signalink. I believe I need these for CAT control and digital work but I'm unsure how they should be connected. Is there a site showing how these components should be interconnected to the radio?

73 Doug VE1ZG


Update from WWW,VE2DX,COM

VE2DX
 


Hello Gang!

Here is a short update from WWW.VE2DX.COM and what we been up to! 

Keep an eye out for the soon to be released CT17B-6USB and CT-17B-6USB-Plus that offers a USB port, 5 CI-V ports with a detachable Mini USB cable.  The CT17B-6USB-PLUS also has a pair of outputs on a 1/8 jack, controlled by RTS and DTR that you can use for PTT, CW RTTY FSK, and other digital modes this addon was being asked by many for a while well it will be available on WWW.VE2DX.COM in January 2021...

Our new 3D printed cases for the CT-17B and IAB family of products were made a lot better with indented lettering and cooked in white paint to make the lettering a LOT better.

On the IAB1 and IAB2 family of products, we added RF filtering to each pin.

The IAB1-13 will be back on popular demand in January 2021, the CT-17B and IAB Family will also have a GoKit packaging where we will NOT be using 3D cases, but instead a simple ShrinkTube approach for the whole board, making it easier for the user to integrate the CT17B or IAB in a rail-mounted system or behind the cover. pictures will be posted on WWW.VE2DX.COM.

 The CT17B Bluetooth and USB products will now Identify themself clearly as a CT-17B in your OS thus making the installation and troubleshooting easier.

Well we have been able to confirm via ICOM documentation that the IC-705 should be able to talk to the CT-17B-6BT Bluetooth CI-V hub, offering the possibility to the user to remote control other ICOM radios or devices (ICOM and NON-ICOM CI-V compatible!) everything is pointing to the success we are waiting for a loaner 705 (I still want to get one just need $$$$$$$) the loaner should be here in January 2021 if all goes well and as soon as our testing confirms our approach is valid we will document the process and publish it! STAY TUNED to WWW.VE2DX.COM.

New videos will be published on our youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/ve2dx

Our IMK keyboards are finished development and even been assembled! They are working GREAT!!! Just having a hard time making the cases in 3d print!
I am looking at going with custom metal cases from the EU that would also offer some shielding... I Will see many people are awaiting these they are really great! The worse part is they WORK GREAT just don't have cases yet :(

Our 2X6, 1X6, and 1X4 remote antenna switches are working GREAT! especially with the 2X6 Interlock board!  I have a setup in my shack of two 2X6 with interlock face to face with BPF between them and a third 2X6 remote in the tower to select the antenna, finally, a 1X4 is used with the 80/40M directional 4 element sloper to select the antenna direction.  All of this is driven by a 7300 and 756ProIII.

We are still working on other stuff like the IAC (Atas 100/120 automatic controller), the SL1 SGC smart controller, and SOO many others its crazy...

So please keep an eye on WWW.VE2DX.COM our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/VE2DX or our youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/ve2dx
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73
 
Richard VE2DX, Jesus Island, PQ-014

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Re: Current drain while off

Tom
 

Steve - many thanks for the information. Most helpful. 


Happy New Year to all

Tom


Re: Current drain while off

Steve W3AHL
 

Tom,

The current draw when the 7K is off is about 20 ma.   It bounces around some, but that seems to be the average current.

Also, there was a question about the coin battery used for the real time clock circuit (not other memory functitons).  It is a rechargeable manganese lithium battery, not silver oxide, (Part # ML920S/F9D) which is charged as long as power is supplied to the radio, even if it is turned off.  The batteries in my two 7K's lasted about 10 years.  I only use it to display UTC time.  They are available from Digikey for $2.16 each (Panasonic part # ML-920/DN).  It is soldered in with attached tabs, but easily replaced.  Just be careful not to short the battery leads together.

Steve, W3AHL


Re: Current drain while off

Donald McRoberts
 
Edited

Here is an excellent video that shows how to change the battery. I've done it and it was rather easy to do. Just be careful to use good soldering techniques and handling of the components as they are removed and replaced.

Also, I do not remember losing any of the settings when replacing the battery. It's been several years since I did the replacement.

73 - Don - W3DRM


Re: Current drain while off

Max
 

But wouldn't it also lose the settings as soon as you remove the old battery? You can't leave the rig powered up while replacing the battery because it requires too much disassembly.

To bury a battery deep inside a radio is asinine in my opinion. It could have been moved to a location where it was accessible by removing a cover and the battery should have had a plug on the end so no soldering would be involved.

Since most would have to send it in to have the battery replaced, this was likely done to generate more revenue.  

Max KG4PID

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 04:22:22 PM CST, Bob Hoffmann, K4CQO <rjhoffmann@...> wrote:


Is there a way to get the remaining life of the battery? If it also holds the memory settings, I would hate to lose all of my memory settings – and it would be nice to replace the battery before that happens!

 

 

73 – K4CQO

Bob Hoffmann

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of J.D. Barron
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 4:12 PM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Current drain while off

 

When your clock resets every time y0u turn off your radio you will know that the battery needs replacement.
It may be that the battery does not keep the frequency memory alive. that may be stored in flash memory.
But the battery does keep the clock running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh7Eqt1JYY


Re: Current drain while off

 

I believe that I was wrong and the battery may well be just for the clock.
I do know that the clock will reset every time the radio is turned off is the battery is dead.
I believe that the frequencies stored etc will be maintained in flash memory.
If my recollection is correct.
Sorry for the misinformation.
The battery is not too bad th change and it lives in the small silver box at the left rear of the main board.


Re: Current drain while off

david vanhorn
 

Nope!   And changing the battery will dump your info.


On Tue, Dec 29, 2020, 3:22 PM Bob Hoffmann, K4CQO <rjhoffmann@...> wrote:

Is there a way to get the remaining life of the battery? If it also holds the memory settings, I would hate to lose all of my memory settings – and it would be nice to replace the battery before that happens!

 

 

73 – K4CQO

Bob Hoffmann

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of J.D. Barron
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 4:12 PM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Current drain while off

 

When your clock resets every time y0u turn off your radio you will know that the battery needs replacement.
It may be that the battery does not keep the frequency memory alive. that may be stored in flash memory.
But the battery does keep the clock running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh7Eqt1JYY


Re: Current drain while off

Bob Hoffmann, K4CQO
 

Is there a way to get the remaining life of the battery? If it also holds the memory settings, I would hate to lose all of my memory settings – and it would be nice to replace the battery before that happens!

 

 

73 – K4CQO

Bob Hoffmann

 

 

From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> On Behalf Of J.D. Barron
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 4:12 PM
To: ic7000@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Current drain while off

 

When your clock resets every time y0u turn off your radio you will know that the battery needs replacement.
It may be that the battery does not keep the frequency memory alive. that may be stored in flash memory.
But the battery does keep the clock running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh7Eqt1JYY


Re: Current drain while off

 

When your clock resets every time y0u turn off your radio you will know that the battery needs replacement.
It may be that the battery does not keep the frequency memory alive. that may be stored in flash memory.
But the battery does keep the clock running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh7Eqt1JYY


Re: Current drain while off

 

There is a small silver oxide battery in the logic unit to maintain the radio memory. When it goes the radio will lose it's memory when turned off, battery or power supply no or off.
You can tell because the time will reset as well.


Re: Current drain while off

montanaaardvark
 


I've owned my IC-7000 since 2007 and never heard of this!  Mine has spent its life on a series of AC powered supplies that are off far more than they're on (on a yearly basis).  I know there have been times when the power supply was off for a year or more and I've never seen any evidence of the radio forgetting anything.

What does the small current keep it from forgetting?   


73,
Bob
--
W4ATM - 35 Miles south of the Kennedy Space Center
Retired RF Design Engineer
Now able to play with all the hobbies I never had enough time for


Re: Current drain while off

Tom
 

Hi 

Thank you for the replies. It’s a simple Land Rover Defender so no fancy gadgets (alarm may well be a culprit too). I’ll test the standing current draw etc  

Happy New Year to you all

Tom 


Re: Current drain while off

david vanhorn
 

If the battery is more than 3 or 4 years old, that is the most likely culprit.


On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 8:20 AM Mark Brueggemann via groups.io <qrq_cw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I recall when I measured my Icom 706 it was on the order of a milliamp.  I'm not next to my 7000 to measure it but I suspect it's similarly "not much".  A switch won't hurt but I suspect it won't solve your problem.  Vehicles themselves have significant parasitic current draws running all manner of their computers and wireless gadgets.  The easiest way to ensure a charged battery in a stored vehicle is to lift the negative lead.  If there's AC power available nearby, any of the contemporary "minder" or "tender" units connected while parked works very well.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM







--
K1FZY (WA4TPW) SK  9/29/37-4/13/15


Re: Current drain while off

Mark Brueggemann
 

I recall when I measured my Icom 706 it was on the order of a milliamp.  I'm not next to my 7000 to measure it but I suspect it's similarly "not much".  A switch won't hurt but I suspect it won't solve your problem.  Vehicles themselves have significant parasitic current draws running all manner of their computers and wireless gadgets.  The easiest way to ensure a charged battery in a stored vehicle is to lift the negative lead.  If there's AC power available nearby, any of the contemporary "minder" or "tender" units connected while parked works very well.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM


Re: Current drain while off

 

I had three of them and never noticed, but then I did not run them mobile very much.
I suspect that the parasitic loads from the car itself are in the same order of magnitude.
I think that the radio just keeps the low power mode on the CPU alive so that pressing the power button is recognized by the radio and pulls in the power relay.
If you are to be gone for a long time you could just pull the + side fuse to kill the load. That would keep the contacts clean as well. 
Adding a switch is probably more work than I would do and adds another point of failure.
I sold all of my IC7000s and bought an IC7300. That radio is great, but I miss my colorful 7000 and its HF,VHF and UHF.
I bought a FT857 (dead) and resurrected it for the combo, but it is not a 7000.
Good luck and best regards,
JD
KE4MD

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