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Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

VE2DX
 

Kevin Thanks for the info I will look into it, no I was not aware of this change...

73

Happy new year

Richard VE2DX


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

Kevin Grantham
 

You are aware that Icom changed the frequency format when their radios addressed frequencies over 1GHz. There's an extra byte (two hex digits) in the newer radios.

I've looked at source code for a PIC based antenna switch that is incompatible with the newer radios for that reason.

I apologize if you already knew this.

Kevin N5KRG

 


Re: First demo of the TFT Touch screen demo of the ATAS-100/120 Controller for ICOM

montanaaardvark
 

I couldn't see a link inline either, but I went to YouTube and searched on his call. 

This appears to be it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxo5KUfbVTE 

I hope this posts!


Re: First demo of the TFT Touch screen demo of the ATAS-100/120 Controller for ICOM

Phil-2E0ZDX
 

Cant see a link ?


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

VE2DX
 

here is a picture of the lcd prototype


Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

VE2DX
 

here is the demo for the unit

Click on the link bellow;

 VE2DX ICOM ATAS-100/120 Controller Demo 1

73

Richard VE2DX


First demo of the TFT Touch screen demo of the ATAS-100/120 Controller for ICOM

VE2DX
 

This is very early release of the user interface, as a reminder there will be 4 variation of the packaging;

1- with no display and maybe a couple of status LEDs (very Small)
2- 2X16 LCD display 
3- 4X20 LCD display

all of the above using same pcb very small 

and finally...

4- the full fledge color unit with touch screen

The user interface for the last one is what I was working on this week, I dont think at this time that it will run on the same pcb, unless I find another TFT screen with simpler interfacing with less wires like I2C i guess (wich I never played with, never stopped me before...!)

so here is the YouTube link for the demo.

very early version please no yelling (yet!)

73

Richard VE2DX


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

VE2DX
 

Unlike most screwdriver or tarheal antenna, the ATAS100 or 120 as two major difference.

1- controlled voltage is 8vdc for down and 12vdc for up, and is sent to motor via the coax.
2- atas type antenna has no reference feedback.

And it is not supported by turbotuner-2

thus we need to feed dc over the coax ... Done
and monitor swr either via ci-v (prefered but not supported on older unit before ic706mkIIG) or swr bridge.
in will also monitor time movement and before vs requested frequency to define direction.

so lot of work ahead, but it is coming along...

byw i am hoping this will be a lot cheaper too...

73

VE2DX 


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

D C *Mac* Macdonald
 

I am not familiar with the ATAS-100 antenna.  Is it a version of a "screwdriver" antenna?  If so, the TurboTuner-2 should work just fine with the IC-7000.  I just bought one to use with my IC-706 Mk II.
 
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Oklahoma City, OK​
USAF, Retired ('61-'81)​
FAA, Retired ('94-'10)​
 


From: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io> on behalf of VE2DX <ve2dx@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 17:15
To: ic7000@groups.io <ic7000@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project
 
Ok here is an update

at this point;

- established Ci-v hardware interface
- ci-v code done
- testing dual speed to help fine tune tuning.
- lcd 2x16 and 4x20 working hid done
- color tft display version , I am working on hid here come along fast
- ant interface establish
- for older radios established swr bridge 
- still working to define some functions
- working on freq sniffing to establish direction.
- need to work on antenna parking functions
- need to transfert to ardruno nano pateform
- need to source case or get help to 3d print diff cases
- need to dig into atu icom connector operations to trigger ant from radio and radio from interface
- need to make very small no display version.
- clean and document code
- need to make pcbs of diff versions
- need to document project (qst?)

so lots to do many already finished, anyone with pcb design or 3d printer that want to help let me know


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

Tom Reilly
 

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Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

VE2DX
 

Ok here is an update

at this point;

- established Ci-v hardware interface
- ci-v code done
- testing dual speed to help fine tune tuning.
- lcd 2x16 and 4x20 working hid done
- color tft display version , I am working on hid here come along fast
- ant interface establish
- for older radios established swr bridge 
- still working to define some functions
- working on freq sniffing to establish direction.
- need to work on antenna parking functions
- need to transfert to ardruno nano pateform
- need to source case or get help to 3d print diff cases
- need to dig into atu icom connector operations to trigger ant from radio and radio from interface
- need to make very small no display version.
- clean and document code
- need to make pcbs of diff versions
- need to document project (qst?)

so lots to do many already finished, anyone with pcb design or 3d printer that want to help let me know


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

bobsayers2000 <bobsayers2000@...>
 

Me too. It seems to have always been common to dismiss these antennas as ineffectual, but I always had good results with mine. As ever, proper grounding is the key! 


Bob, G8IYK. 


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On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 0:15, va3qb
<va3qb.ve3vwd@...> wrote:
I look forward to seeing the results. I have a Atas100 collecting dust as well.

73
Bill
VA3QB 


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

va3qb <va3qb.ve3vwd@...>
 

I look forward to seeing the results. I have a Atas100 collecting dust as well.

73
Bill
VA3QB 


Re: Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

VE2DX
 

one of my other projects is the external 8 memory keypad for the ICOM 7300.

see more info at :

https://groups.io/g/ic-7300/topic/icom_7300_8_key_external/68837614?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,68837614

73

Richard VE2DX


Icom to ATAS-100 automatic controller project #all

VE2DX
 

hello,

For those interrested I am starting on a project to automaticaly control the YEASU ATAS-100/120 HF antenna using an ICOM radio like the IC7000.

It will be most likely Arduino based, using CI-V to snif freq, S-Meter and SWR info and the D4 antenna controller to control the radio.

I am looking at multiple variation from very small package with just a couple LED indiccators to 2X16 and 4X40 LCD to TFT Color LCD with touch screen.

for older ICOM radios missing some of the needed CI-V commands (pre IC-706mkIIG), I will had an SWR bridge to adress this.

still a long way to go but look here for updates.

73

Richard VE2DX


Re: Repeater access

Jim Szalajeski
 

Sorry for the late reply now that you seem to have the repeater keying up.  But it might help you in the future. 

Jim 




On Friday, December 6, 2019, 2:51:29 PM CST, Jim Szalajeski <jimszal@...> wrote:


Three questions:

 Have you put a watt meter in line with the radio and measured the TX output power and antenna SWR?

Second question, have you tried using another radio and see if you can hit the repeaters your trying to hit?

Third question, have you tried to listen to you radio with a portable or another radio to see if you can hear voice from your radio under test and the CTCSS tone required to open the repeater your trying to hit.  This will require you to listen to the repeater input. 

These are the simple tests that will point you in the right direction if the radio is having a problem. 

Jim 


On Friday, December 6, 2019, 1:09:28 PM CST, Linda C <lculberson@...> wrote:


hmm.  Stupid question, since I’m sure you’ve tried this - but are you able to reach other repeaters?  When I was having a similar problem none of my repeated access worked, and I ended up putting all the repeaters in memory using CHIRP.

Linda, AG5HJ

On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

Jim Szalajeski
 

Three questions:

 Have you put a watt meter in line with the radio and measured the TX output power and antenna SWR?

Second question, have you tried using another radio and see if you can hit the repeaters your trying to hit?

Third question, have you tried to listen to you radio with a portable or another radio to see if you can hear voice from your radio under test and the CTCSS tone required to open the repeater your trying to hit.  This will require you to listen to the repeater input. 

These are the simple tests that will point you in the right direction if the radio is having a problem. 

Jim 


On Friday, December 6, 2019, 1:09:28 PM CST, Linda C <lculberson@...> wrote:


hmm.  Stupid question, since I’m sure you’ve tried this - but are you able to reach other repeaters?  When I was having a similar problem none of my repeated access worked, and I ended up putting all the repeaters in memory using CHIRP.

Linda, AG5HJ

On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

Linda C
 

Great news! Glad you got that settled! 

On Dec 6, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

Hmm looks like the problem wasnt me after all, the local repeater has been having issues, were all good now

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

Linda C
 

hmm.  Stupid question, since I’m sure you’ve tried this - but are you able to reach other repeaters?  When I was having a similar problem none of my repeated access worked, and I ended up putting all the repeaters in memory using CHIRP.

Linda, AG5HJ

On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle <adrian@...> wrote:

As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM


Re: Repeater access

Rick Robinson <w8zt@...>
 

Can you access another repeator using tones? If not then maybe the tone output is too low and needs increased. Service manual stuff. GL

On 12/6/2019 3:06 AM, Adrian McGonigle wrote:
As I said in the original post, offset is correct -600 and CTCSS tone is correct for my local repeater 110.9, have tried various filter widths in case it was something there but no go

Adrian G0KOM
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