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Re: Icom IC-F7000?
Matt Yellen
I don't understand why you people are getting hung up
on the IC-F7000. The F7000 is a commercial radio. It is not type accepted for the US (I don't think), but it has been in production for over 1 year. If there is going to be a new IC-7000, something will probably be anounced at Dayton. You have seen the e-mail that came from ICOMs TSR guy. --- uuhamfl <uuhamfl@...> wrote: Please take note that I have discovered an Icom__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: Icom IC-F7000?
Huze@work <hduff@...>
Your comment is equally as interesting.
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I don't see why it couldn't be a similar size as the 706. Unless they decide in the interim to add a built-in ATU, why do you think it would be and as large as the TS-480 ? Hugh VA3TO MKM wrote:
Interesting comment...we do not know yet the size of the housing.
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Re: Icom IC-F7000?
MKM <starlight04@...>
Interesting comment...we do not know yet the size of the housing.
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Earlier reports indicated 20mm shorter compared to the 706 but I doubt it. I think it will be about the size of the Kenwood 480.
On May 1, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Per Eriksson wrote:
It has nothing to do with the upcoming IC-7000 except the size of the
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Re: Icom IC-F7000?
Per Eriksson <sm4xiu@...>
It has nothing to do with the upcoming IC-7000 except the size of the
housing…. /Per _____ Från: ic7000@... [mailto:ic7000@...] För uuhamfl Skickat: den 1 maj 2005 14:43 Till: ic7000@... Ämne: [ic7000] Icom IC-F7000? Please take note that I have discovered an Icom IC-F7000 commercial HF radio on Icom Australia's web site. It is an "ALE" radio.Their web site is: www.icom.net.au It is listed under commercial radios. Could this radio be related to the expected IC-7000? Tom, K4YAZ uuhamfl@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Icom IC-F7000?
Keith V <kavan@...>
There are some messages on it a week or two in the message archives.
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Van, KL7TDZ
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From: "uuhamfl" <uuhamfl@...> To: <ic7000@...> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: [ic7000] Icom IC-F7000? Please take note that I have discovered an Icom IC-F7000 commercial -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005
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Icom IC-F7000?
uuhamfl <uuhamfl@...>
Please take note that I have discovered an Icom IC-F7000 commercial
HF radio on Icom Australia's web site. It is an "ALE" radio.Their web site is: www.icom.net.au It is listed under commercial radios. Could this radio be related to the expected IC-7000? Tom, K4YAZ uuhamfl@...
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Re: ALE capability
Scot Clayton <scotclayton@...>
lelandlcox wrote:
What is ALE?Automatic Link Establishment, I believe...Military and DOD, Feds, use it alot. I've played with it a bit using ALE PC program. Pretty neat stuff. -- -*-Scot ScotClayton@... <mailto:ScotClayton@...> www.ScotClayton.org <http://www.ScotClayton.org> www.SMCProductions.org <http://www.SMCProductions.org> www.RonnieJamesDio.org <http://www.RonnieJamesDio.org> (The ORIGINAL Dio Msg Board)* * www.CraigGoldy.org <http://www.CraigGoldy.org>* / RonnieJamesDio.org 24/7 Rocking Radio <http://launch.yahoo.com/lc/?rt=0&rp1=0&rp2=1215640292>/ ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 29-Apr-05
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Re: ALE capability
lelandlcox <lcox107@...>
What is ALE?
--- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote: Hi Steve,units writes an ALE reqt. into its RFP.Behalf Of ki0ky
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Re: ALE capability
Hi Steve,
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I doubt it, unless some customer with a prospective order of 10000+ units writes an ALE reqt. into its RFP. Cheers for now, 73, Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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From: ic7000@... [mailto:ic7000@...] On Behalf Of ki0ky Sent: 26 April 2005 17:19 To: ic7000@... Subject: [ic7000] ALE capability Are there any indications of the IC7000 being ALE capable? Steve KI0KY Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/
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Re: IC 7000 is Not a hoax according to Icom America
nicolasc33 <javier_ebay@...>
Neither for ICOM Spain (I guess)
I emailed ICOM Spain for some questions regarding the newly bought IC- 7400, and some other questions. The answer was brief: "tell us your phone number and we will call". I guess they did not want to comment by Email As all this comes from a telecom there can be missunderstandings. ICOM called me, as I said the IC-7000 was not the question in the email, but "almost" arose. Talking about mobile or portable rigs minimum voltage for the 706 and so on... Came a wise advice. The 706MKIIG does not give us any trouble, if you think about one, dont think too much, or it may be late. Further discounts. Second advice, "if" it comes a new rig (I figured the 7000) it will be not be inmediately, and some teething problems are "Normal" in any rig. Sugestion: buy a 706 for the summer at VERY good price, and wait for the second buch of the new rig, using base DSP in the 7400 and mobile the 706. After this the "now or never 706" feeling started to act inside me. I had to call a free lance repairer for a Drake TR7 overhaul, and I said I dont need it urgently as I had bought the 7400. And commented about former telecom. Their answer was get a 706 from us, we improve any price (made an extra 70USD cut), I was amazed I did not really ask for any price.. they made the offer. "util the summer comes" they said. He is a freelance repairer and said last model 706MKIIG has not come often to repair there. And again.. In case the 7000 ever comes... Do you want to own the first series? Conclusions. The IC-7000 is not a Hoax at all. People recommending me the 706 were not commercial but technical people, it seems they love the 706. It may dissapear soon (this is my appreciation) The 7000 is not for tomorrow, at least here. All (most) rigs have some problems silly or serious. MK-III seems to be a chance to get the problems solved. The 706 is mature, the 7000 not born. Advices by this two technician seemed very sincere. If I made the right calculation, 706's present price is about 71% the price one year ago. My conclusion: I will buy a 706 for the summer. And most probably in next spring a IC-7000 for next summer. I cannot be wrong at the present prices. I will bargain. All times before they were bargaining for me.. making offers, I was pasive, I guess I will now bargain. For the minimum voltage in portable on batteries he thought about 11,7V. They will test and tell me. They are mobile rigs, not portable rigs they said. PS: I have not bargained at all, this is not "my" price, it is "the price" here. All prices are high in Spain.. so they have margin. Normal street price in USA I guess it has beed lower that actual pices here. 73's Javier EA4CWY
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ALE capability
ki0ky <ki0ky@...>
Are there any indications of the IC7000 being ALE capable?
Steve KI0KY
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Re: IC 7000 is Not a hoax according to Icom America
aidehua@...
I'll say again that the head of marketing at Icom Japan said to wait for
Dayton, so we should see something by then.....I was in Osaka last week. 73, Ed NI6S
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Re: IC 7000 is Not a hoax according to Icom America
Huze@work <hduff@...>
It's sounding more and more like Icom doesn't have
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anything beyond a concept for the IC-7000 at this point. Could it be that they are *reacting* to the rumour ? That is to say, the rumour came before it was decided that they would indeed begin work on a replacement for the IC-706 ? Of course with all of the hype and inquiries they are receiving it would be in their best interest to act on it and keep the interest high. Just a theory :) Hugh VA3TO Bill wrote:
Well I decided to ask Icom myself about the IC 7000. I emailed them. see their reply and my original inquiry. It is not a hoax per Icom... yet from what I see here. They are still undecided about some issues.
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IC 7000 is Not a hoax according to Icom America
Bill <kyradio@...>
Well I decided to ask Icom myself about the IC 7000. I emailed them. see their reply and my original inquiry. It is not a hoax per Icom... yet from what I see here. They are still undecided about some issues.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you very much for your inquiry. Icom Incorporated is developing many new products to meet the requests and expectations of out customers. The model IC-7000 is one of such models. Unfortunately, however, it is still too early to make any announcements on the specification, release timing and price etc, as such are still undecided. We will be announcing such details on our homepage, through dealers or magazines as soon as possible. We ask for your understanding in this situation and thank you in advance for your enquiry and patience regarding information from us. Kevin McClinton, W7JRL Technical Support Representative ICOM America, Inc. 2380 116th Ave. NE Bellevue, WA 98004 Ph. (425) 454-7619 Fax (425) 637-8417 www.icomamerica.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill [mailto:kyradio@...] Posted At: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:47 AM Posted To: Amateur Conversation: Icom ic 7000 Subject: Icom ic 7000 Icom I would like more information on the Icom IC 7000. I have not been able to find out when this radio will be released or what its approximate cost will be. I own several Icom radios and they work fine, chances are good that I would buy the IC 7000 when it and if it will be available. I have heard from a few that the IC 7000 Amateur radio is a hoax and will not be produced. Can you confirm or deny that this radio will be released at some time in the future? Any information that you provide would be most helpful. Thank You in Advance W4KYR Bill in KY
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Re: IC-7000
VK5LN
Hi,
I have an IC-F7000 in my new Toyota Hilux 4x4 (mobile shack). This is a dual purpose radio for me. On the one hand to be used on the VKS737 Four Wheel Drive HF network and on the other, as my HF ham rig. There isn't really a "ham" mode as such. There is a VFO mode which allows you to directly enter frequencies. In typical Icom style, you need to go into a set menu to change the mode (USB/LSB/AM). I work for an Icom dealer, so was able to purchase the radio for the "dealer demo" price. I also bought the CS-F7000 software. It's not as flexible as a "true" ham radio, but it does work and work quite well. I am starting to play around with ALE (see www.hflink.com) You can see some photos of my mobile radio shack installation here :- http://www.users.on.net/~michaelcarey/pics/hilux_install/ Regards, Michael VK5ZEA --- In ic7000@..., Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote: Hi Richard,emission in the ITU-R table.and land-mobile use. It is possible that the ACA (AustralianCommunications Authority) licenses the F7000 only onto services where J3E and A3Eare the authorised emissions. A possible example is land-mobile in theOutback. when the radio is licensed onto services in which A1A is authorised. Hams whoacquire the F7000 will probably be able to get their hands on theprogramming software in any event.Behalf Of Ya`akov N. MilesAustralia version.. J3E (USB, LSB) J2B (AFSK) F1BOh no! Are equipment manufacturers going to blacklist CW?
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Re: Authentic hype or hoax ?
nicolasc33 <javier_ebay@...>
I understand the position of the ICOM man. In my experience with
Yamaha, I was beta tester of instruments, and corrected the spanish language of the manuals. And it was only one week to release. In Japan music market the releases are annonuced some months before. Maybe same now with the 7000. I guess it will be announced, but I doubt they have all the certifications for immediate sale. I have been told here that it will be for the 4th quarter (Spain) What you says makes sense, as the 706 + filters would cost more than a 7000, and a 7000 + tuner more than a 7400. And above all, producing a 706 will cost more than a 7000. Maybe they are just trying to sell me the last 706 hahaha. No problem if the price is right, as with IC-7400. I think the 706 has made a record of sales. And now is a "no problem" rig. I am still thinking about one :) just for fun. But again the ICOM DSP is terrific good, and for oldies like me (EA1FC 1953) something amazing. I am just a bit worried about heat, as I said, I hate fans, Switched PS, SMC (I cannot see them) and the like. But 100W out means 100W to be disipated at least, and this makes a lot of heat even in SSB (50%) in a 1:3 TX/RX cycle. When we finish wondering about the 7000, we can start wondering about the IC-746-PRO-II. There is a too large price gap now to the 756. So the II in the 746 may mean some gadget and some 400 USD as well, at least I hope the will improve the 4 silly knobs, in lower left front. 73's Javier EA4CWY --- In ic7000@..., aidehua@a... wrote: At the Icom Japan showroom, there was NOT an IC-7000 on display. Ididn't want to prod the rep too much, so I didn't ask questions....It was clear that he was uncomfortable even confirming that the rig existed. I mentioned that French CQ mag had released some info, and he was visibly upset, since he's in charge of marketing and the info was released too prematurly. to be the replacement. On another note, I operated the Icom Club Station (IC-7800, IC-756 Pro III, and IC-780 w/Force12 C49XR)....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Authentic hype or hoax ?
aidehua@...
At the Icom Japan showroom, there was NOT an IC-7000 on display. I didn't want to prod the rep too much, so I didn't ask questions....It was clear that he was uncomfortable even confirming that the rig existed. I mentioned that French CQ mag had released some info, and he was visibly upset, since he's in charge of marketing and the info was released too prematurly.
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He did tell me that the 706 would be discontinued, as the 7000 was to be the replacement. On another note, I operated the Icom Club Station (IC-7800, IC-756 Pro III, and IC-780 w/Force12 C49XR)....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! 73, Ed NI6S
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From: nicolasc33 <javier_ebay@...> To: ic7000@... Sent: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:17:40 -0000 Subject: [ic7000] Re: Authentic hype or hoax ? OK.. my sources are not so direct as ICOM Japan, but I trust them fully. Yesterday I was talking about it and prices, I was told that it will be placed just in the middle of 706 and 7400. That means it will be 25% more expensive than 706 (continuing to be produced) and the 7400 will be 25% more expensive than 7000. This is exactly what I was told, as it was not "from ICOM" of course you can take it or leave it. I believe it. All this has meant price reajustment, in the 706 and 7400, and this is just good for us. The 706 is now very very competive in price/performance, if you are not going to buy further options. And the 7400 a very good performer at the prices today. I am some kind of compulsive buyer, and even if they tell me that the 706 will be continued, I am thinking seriously to get one, it is a very experienced rig, and all teething problems have been resolved. The only problem I see it is the price of extra filters. If all this is true a 706 plus 2 filters will be in the price range of 7400 or above. And by now we (Hams) know ALL about its insides. I have a 7400 and the IF DSP is wonderfull, I am not sure the 7000 will have TV, but IF-DSP, for sure. So if I convince the wife.. shall I buy now a 706, just in case?. And the 7000 when it comes out, to have state of the art?. In this case shall I keep the 7400?. Last answer it is "yes" nice rig, nice tuner. By the way if all above is true, the 7000 plus an ICOM auto tuner will cost MORE than a 7400, so it will not make sense for a fixed rig, to buy a 7000. And think about the heat in that small rig. By the way Ed, did you get one?. I did once with a Yamaha music instrument. I visited Yamaha, and suddenly I saw it. ¿what is that?. It was going to be released in the next week, in a german fair, but I managed to buy one, with 2 conditions, not to tell anybody until the fair (not a big deal it was just 7 days later) and to report it to Yamaha Spain at my arrival, as it was a 100V instrument. Very efficient, the people in Yamaha Spain were surprised getting a PS for something they did not know about. All went smooth. That instrument was breaking at that time, it is still in use after 14 years. I think all this could be possible because japanese are very pleased when you recognize their good work, AND they have some inability o at least high difficulty to say "NO" in your nose, they go around and around, but saying "NO" is terrible for them. I should not have asked to get it. But once you ask... THEY have a problem. 73's Javier EA4CWY --- In ic7000@..., aidehua@a... wrote: After yesterday`s visit to Icom Japan, I confirmed that the IC-7000will be released at Dayton this year.....Don`t want to reveal too much, as I promised I would not....
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Re: Still not impressed.
Dan N1GXC <sgagnon@...>
Don't get me wrong guy's. If the radio is produced 'as is' it's still a
very cool rig. I'm currently using my IC-746 in the field so any smaller radio with the same power and most of the features will work out just fine. I'd just like to see our team give them a run for their money. Dan
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Re: Still not impressed.
nicolasc33 <javier_ebay@...>
It is a mobile, but all ICOM rigs have continuosly adjustable RF power,
independently of mic gain. SO I guess it will be possible from 5 to 100W. It will be less than 3Kg/6 lb weight. As it is a mobile with removable head, I just imagine somebody with the rig, a gel battery and the antenna in the backpack, and using just the removable head, to control the radio. It would steal the show! Ok it is a joke. It will be just a small rig, not top of ICOM. 73's Javier EA4CWY
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Price cuts
nicolasc33 <javier_ebay@...>
Here in Spain the IC-7400 (746 PRO) has had a price cut of 25%, it
was a bit expensive before, but now it cost the same than a Yaesu 897 and an non-Yaesu auto tuner. That made me buy it. So it has become very competitive. I am happy with a proven and mature model at a good price. Price of rigs it is not specially low, in Spain, but now ICOM has lower prices in Spain than in a large shop in Germany. Price in that german shop for a yaesu 897 is 20% lower than in Spain. ICOM is by far the most competitive brand. The barebone Kenwood TS-50 is 12% more expensive than IC-706. Price of 706 with DPS in Spain is about 88% of a barebone Yaesu 897D. In Germany the 706 is about 10% more expensive than Yaesu 897 So it is a local policy of ICOM Spain, that has been taken over by ICOM Japan, before it was a local representative. Now it is much better. I like "mature" rigs, (and cars), I hate to pay for manufacturer's mistakes in new born rigs, and having already the IC-7400, I am thinking and thinking about buying a 706, now that all the problems are solved, and price is interesting, and wait for the IC-7000 for a couple of years, when teething problems are solved. I just hate the price of extra filters in 706. I admit I like to own nice rigs, I have (and use) some classic receivers too. So do not try to find a rational behaviour, it is just my hobby. I would not expend a cent in tranmission, except for a narrow filter and a nice mike. But I love to have every feature in good receivers, my main hobby really is to listen. To tell the truth most of my Ham activity is made with a Yaesu FT-101- ZD-MKIII, I made some Fox Tango modifications to it some 20 years ago, and I feel confortable having all knobs at sight. And I am thinking more about buying another one if I find it, than disposing of it. But really the ICOM IF-DSP is top of class. I love it. And yes.. something is coming, soon. Javier EA4CWY --- In ic7000@..., MKM <starlight04@g...> wrote: with a "pro2" model, the 7000 fits nicely where it fits in terms ofa free power supply. Maybe an indication of a new model soon!?
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