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Re: [IC-7000] Finals problem wide spead?
Tim Hardy AF1G <hardyt@...>
Steve,
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I have two IC7Ks, one that has been mobile since the day I bought it and the other that has been moved often from one installation to another - base, portable, and other temporary use. It is now a part of my "go kit" and mounted in a set of TAC COMM stackable carriers along with an AT-7000 tuner, power supply, and VHF radio. I have had no problems of any kind with either radio. One radio is over three years old (the mobile), and the other over two years. In fact, I'm surprised by all the problems reported on this group. As with any complex manufactured product, there will be a certain percentage of errors in manufacturing and the company's quality control effort determines how high that percentage is. Then there are users who improperly install it and/or the antenna system, resulting in an eventual failure, users who expect more of it than it was designed to deliver (mounted in a high impact/shock or extremely dusty environment), users who exceed its designed preformance specs (such as running 100 percent duty cycle on RTTY), and a few who never bother to read the users manual and think something is wrong when it isn't. I myself am recently guilty of the latter, having returned an item (not my IC7K) for warranty repair when all it needed was a master reset. It experienced a nearby lightning strike and being computer processor-controlled, began to hiccup. All the service tech did was reset it and verify proper performance. Yes, I am embarassed and was reminded of what I have told others - RTFM. If you get an IC7K, remember that the SWR meter on the radio screen DOES NOT work properly on VHF and UHF, even though it shows something while transmitting. You need to verify antenna system performance with an external watt/SWR meter. That could be where some folks go wrong and end up with fried finals on VHF/UHF. In fact, I would recommend verifying performance on all bands with a quality external watt/SWR meter. 73 de Tim, AF1G ---- sstalkerohio <sstalker@bex.net> wrote:
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Re: [IC-7000] Yahoo IC7600 Group
Jim <pywacker@...>
Icom7600@yahoogroups.com
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On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Jim <pywacker@fuse.net> wrote:
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Re: Finals problem wide spead?
I know quite a few 7K owners, none of whom have had PA failures to my knowledge. So it is hard to determine how widespread it is and more importantly, what the root causes are.
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Based upon mobile installations I see walking around hamfest parking lots, I suspect many problems are the result of poor antenna, feed line, power and grounding practices. There are a lot of hams with little technical background and few clubs hold technical programs that could help others learn good installation practices. And many base station installations suffer similar problems. It is hard to fault the radio, when the feed line has cold solder joints, no weather proofing, no lightning protection, etc. My 7K has lived a hard life and never complained. But I do try to pay attention to the installation details and do preventive maintenance. I've seen no evidence that it is overly sensitive to high SWR, although I try not to "test" its internal foldback to often! Steve, W3AHL
--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, "sstalkerohio" <sstalker@...> wrote:
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Re: [IC-7000] Yahoo IC7600 Group
Jim <pywacker@...>
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On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:09 AM, "Stephen Beamish" <steve@sboldvic.demon.co.uk
wrote: Although not directly related to IC7000 affairs. Can anyone inform me about the abrupt removal of the Icom IC7600
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Re: [IC-7000] Finals problem wide spead?
Jim <pywacker@...>
Never an issue & I bought mine new several years ago.
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73 de ke4wy jim Sent from my iPod
On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:19 AM, ki4txi@aol.com wrote:
As an owner of 2 IC-7000's I have yet to have a problem with finals. Both
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Yahoo IC7600 Group
Stephen Beamish <steve@...>
Although not directly related to IC7000 affairs. Can anyone inform me about the abrupt removal of the Icom IC7600
site from the Yahoo Group pages?! Thanks Steve.
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Re: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops
Jack Rucker <jackr1@...>
#12 wire is only good for a 3.3' run for 2.5% V drop at 20A.
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#10 is good for a 10' run if you accept 5% drop @ 20A. This means your 13.8V will only be 13.1V at the radio [minus drop in fuses & connections]. For 12.6V input, without alternator, you are just below 12V. #8 is good for an 8' run, if you want only 2.5% drop. Then 12.6V in = ~12.29V. If your pretty white Icom fuse holders run warm when transmitting for a few minutes, replace with decent Bakelite or wide blade fuse holders. [I waited until mine started melting.] Jack_son ================================
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From: "Bob K" <cbrxx98@hotmail.com> To: <ic7000@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: RE: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops Wow..this post is like combing a story from my recent memory. I have a 04 Honda CRV with the 2.4 VTEC engine....same as the Element. Mine was doing the same thing. Only would drop out under higher power outputs. I ran my power wires directly from the battery thinking that would solve any voltage draw problems. The problem was the wire I used wouldn't carry the current under a 15-20 amp draw..... So...I replaced the wire with a heavier version 10ga. No other changes at all. Problem solved. Never has dropped out since under any load. Run a heavier cale directly to battery and don't forget to fuse both leads AT the battery with the heavier blade thpe fuses.......problem solved. 73 Bob w9eta To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com From: henryf@gly.fsu.edu Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:52:30 -0400 Subject: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops I am a longtime member of the group but very rarely post. My IC-7000 is mounted in my 2007 Honda Element. The stock electrical system on the Element is quite modest (a dispassionate observer might characterize it as worthless). The engine compartment is the quite crowded and the OEM size 51R battery only supplies 450 CCA. Receive is fine but the rig would continually reboot when transmitting SSB if the engine was not reving faster than appx 2000rpm. I upgraded the battery to a 640CCA unit from Costco. If the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery, I can usually transmit at full power. I still can't xmit at full power with the rig powered solely from the battery. Again, receive is fine. A search of the forums on the Element owners club website reveals widespread disatisfaction with the native Honda electrical system. So how are other mobile ops dealing with this? Am I alone? Any other Element owners on the list? Tnx Henry N5HF
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Re: [IC-7000] EU Made Battery Boosters EU ??
Hi, a propos Battery Boosters,
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I own one from years for Marine Purposes, vy fine, it is the original one by Tim Gerdeen, N8XJK , and it works fine, of course. Inbetween Tim has issued other more clever models, having lot of nice improvements. I was curious to know if there is some Battery Booster, or a similar device, made in EU ; last year I heard rumours about this, one for 5A and one for abt 35A output, made in DL for campers. Some EU om knows more about this? Related Infos will be welcome. 73 de Augusto HB9TZA / I2JJR ----------------------------------------------------- ralph.celone@att.net ha scritto:
I drive a 1998 Plymouth Neon and had a similar problem as you.
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Re: [IC-7000] Finals problem wide spead?
ki4txi@...
As an owner of 2 IC-7000's I have yet to have a problem with finals. Both
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rigs see daily use with only one requiring a trip to Icom due to a audio problem. One of these rigs sees daily use in a classroom with 25 - 30 middle school students. I would have to say they are very good rigs for what they were designed for. One mistake I see some making is thinking this is a base rig and complaining of poor audio quality , this is a mobile rig and the audio is equal to a mobile's audio. 73 Donnie KI4TXI
In a message dated 3/23/2010 6:10:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
sstalker@bex.net writes: Group, Am trying to decide if the IC7000 is a good purchase at this point in time. I currently have an IC703, IC706MKIIG and IC718. Very happy with all of them. Am looking for a new rig for mobile purposes. Is the finals problem as wide spread as it appears to be or is the rig as bomb-proof as the 706? Has Icom solved the "problem" or are the finals just less tolerant of less than perfect SWR? So far a very happy Icom fan. 73 Steve KC8TVW - Toledo, OH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Finals problem wide spead?
Steven Stalker
Group,
Am trying to decide if the IC7000 is a good purchase at this point in time. I currently have an IC703, IC706MKIIG and IC718. Very happy with all of them. Am looking for a new rig for mobile purposes. Is the finals problem as wide spread as it appears to be or is the rig as bomb-proof as the 706? Has Icom solved the "problem" or are the finals just less tolerant of less than perfect SWR? So far a very happy Icom fan. 73 Steve KC8TVW - Toledo, OH
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Re: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops
N1GBE
I should also mention that I have 2 pair of number 10 wires running directly from the battery to the back of the car where the radio, battery booster, and antenna coupler are mounted either in, or on, the trunk.
Regards, N1GBE ________________________________ From: "ralph.celone@att.net" <ralph.celone@att.net> To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 10:59:02 PM Subject: Re: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops I drive a 1998 Plymouth Neon and had a similar problem as you. I solved by installing a W4RYY battery booster about 3 or 4 years ago. It solved my reboot problem and my distorted TX audio problem and has never failed me. Regards, N1GBE ____________ _________ _________ __ From: "henryf@gly.fsu. edu" <henryf@gly.fsu. edu> To: ic7000@yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 9:52:30 PM Subject: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops I am a longtime member of the group but very rarely post. My IC-7000 is mounted in my 2007 Honda Element. The stock electrical system on the Element is quite modest (a dispassionate observer might characterize it as worthless). The engine compartment is the quite crowded and the OEM size 51R battery only supplies 450 CCA. Receive is fine but the rig would continually reboot when transmitting SSB if the engine was not reving faster than appx 2000rpm. I upgraded the battery to a 640CCA unit from Costco. If the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery, I can usually transmit at full power. I still can't xmit at full power with the rig powered solely from the battery. Again, receive is fine. A search of the forums on the Element owners club website reveals widespread disatisfaction with the native Honda electrical system. So how are other mobile ops dealing with this? Am I alone? Any other Element owners on the list? Tnx Henry N5HF [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops
N1GBE
I drive a 1998 Plymouth Neon and had a similar problem as you.
I solved by installing a W4RYY battery booster about 3 or 4 years ago. It solved my reboot problem and my distorted TX audio problem and has never failed me. Regards, N1GBE ________________________________ From: "henryf@gly.fsu.edu" <henryf@gly.fsu.edu> To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 9:52:30 PM Subject: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops I am a longtime member of the group but very rarely post. My IC-7000 is mounted in my 2007 Honda Element. The stock electrical system on the Element is quite modest (a dispassionate observer might characterize it as worthless). The engine compartment is the quite crowded and the OEM size 51R battery only supplies 450 CCA. Receive is fine but the rig would continually reboot when transmitting SSB if the engine was not reving faster than appx 2000rpm. I upgraded the battery to a 640CCA unit from Costco. If the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery, I can usually transmit at full power. I still can't xmit at full power with the rig powered solely from the battery. Again, receive is fine. A search of the forums on the Element owners club website reveals widespread disatisfaction with the native Honda electrical system. So how are other mobile ops dealing with this? Am I alone? Any other Element owners on the list? Tnx Henry N5HF [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops
Bob K <cbrxx98@...>
Wow..this post is like combing a story from my recent memory.
I have a 04 Honda CRV with the 2.4 VTEC engine....same as the Element. Mine was doing the same thing. Only would drop out under higher power outputs. I ran my power wires directly from the battery thinking that would solve any voltage draw problems. The problem was the wire I used wouldn't carry the current under a 15-20 amp draw..... So...I replaced the wire with a heavier version 10ga. No other changes at all. Problem solved. Never has dropped out since under any load. Run a heavier cale directly to battery and don't forget to fuse both leads AT the battery with the heavier blade thpe fuses.......problem solved. 73 Bob w9eta To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com From: henryf@gly.fsu.edu Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:52:30 -0400 Subject: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops I am a longtime member of the group but very rarely post. My IC-7000 is mounted in my 2007 Honda Element. The stock electrical system on the Element is quite modest (a dispassionate observer might characterize it as worthless). The engine compartment is the quite crowded and the OEM size 51R battery only supplies 450 CCA. Receive is fine but the rig would continually reboot when transmitting SSB if the engine was not reving faster than appx 2000rpm. I upgraded the battery to a 640CCA unit from Costco. If the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery, I can usually transmit at full power. I still can't xmit at full power with the rig powered solely from the battery. Again, receive is fine. A search of the forums on the Element owners club website reveals widespread disatisfaction with the native Honda electrical system. So how are other mobile ops dealing with this? Am I alone? Any other Element owners on the list? Tnx Henry N5HF _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/
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Re: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops
D C *Mac* Macdonald
The IC-7000 is notoriously intolerant of low input voltage.
You may need to investigate (and buy) one of the battery boosters which will provide 13.5-13.8 VDC even when the battery voltage drops down to 12.0 or even a bit lower. QST had a comparison review of three boosters last year. Mac, K2GKK/5 Oklaoma City ________________________________ To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com From: henryf@gly.fsu.edu Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:52:30 -0400 Subject: [IC-7000] Mobile Ops I am a longtime member of the group but very rarely post. My IC-7000 is mounted in my 2007 Honda Element. The stock electrical system on the Element is quite modest (a dispassionate observer might characterize it as worthless). The engine compartment is the quite crowded and the OEM size 51R battery only supplies 450 CCA. Receive is fine but the rig would continually reboot when transmitting SSB if the engine was not reving faster than appx 2000rpm. I upgraded the battery to a 640CCA unit from Costco. If the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery, I can usually transmit at full power. I still can't xmit at full power with the rig powered solely from the battery. Again, receive is fine. A search of the forums on the Element owners club website reveals widespread disatisfaction with the native Honda electrical system. So how are other mobile ops dealing with this? Am I alone? Any other Element owners on the list? Tnx Henry N5HF
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Mobile Ops
henryf@...
I am a longtime member of the group but very rarely post.
My IC-7000 is mounted in my 2007 Honda Element. The stock electrical system on the Element is quite modest (a dispassionate observer might characterize it as worthless). The engine compartment is the quite crowded and the OEM size 51R battery only supplies 450 CCA. Receive is fine but the rig would continually reboot when transmitting SSB if the engine was not reving faster than appx 2000rpm. I upgraded the battery to a 640CCA unit from Costco. If the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery, I can usually transmit at full power. I still can't xmit at full power with the rig powered solely from the battery. Again, receive is fine. A search of the forums on the Element owners club website reveals widespread disatisfaction with the native Honda electrical system. So how are other mobile ops dealing with this? Am I alone? Any other Element owners on the list? Tnx Henry N5HF
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Re: HEIL HEADSET WITH ICOM 7000
VE3FMC <ve3fmc@...>
Thanks for all the replies. Chip at Heil was nice enough to email me back and answered a lot of my questions in regards to the headsets and also the mic adapter cable for the iCM models and others.
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Not 100% sure I want to go back to the headset as I rarely use VOX and that is when a headset comes in handy. I currently use the iCM desk mic and get very good audio reports with this combination. 73 to all Rick VE3FMC
--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, Brian McCann <bjmccann@...> wrote:
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Some questions abt squelch, ptt, and TX/blue screen
la7um
Hei Group. A friend of mine just bought at IC7000 an gets the Loudsp. and and Headphones squelced, but no ACC2. Is there som way around?
Is this correct?, And if it is, is there a workaround? to Make that Acc2 pin silent as well? As a fixed line signal it is the most appropriate to use for other amplifications. For his purpose the best aolution is to use squelc also on the rear digital ports. As opposed to many packet and other dial modes. 2: He has probems when txing the rigg...making sound output., but instead make a Blue screen. and nothing to a nother rig 3m away. What is the remedy and workaround? Could it be some hidden meny? 3: Does the rig has the CIV controll of it PTT? And what is the HEX values? for start and stop? After he did by his rig, I am beginning to be curios myself, having IC706, the original, and having been very satisfied. 73 de la7um Finn
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: HEIL HEADSET WITH ICOM 7000
Tom Mitchell VE7TOM <VE7TOM@...>
I have used the modified Nagy hand mic, Heils HC 4 & 5 and ICm as well as
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the Icom SM8 on the 7000. The 4 & 5 need a bit of amplification to work well but are somewhat underwhelming in reports. The ICm cartridge is the best from all the local and DX reports I have had. Plus it does not need an extra amplifier. Most reports say the ICm is a bright clear sounding mic with good articulation where the HC 5 and SM8 are good but unremarkable. The HC 4 of course penetrating but not bright and the modified hand mic works but the poorest sound. I have been collecting a number of elements from old cell phone head sets and have been planning to compare them when I get some time. Having heard the quality of some of these elements via cell phones they maybe an excellent alternative at very low cost. Some of the low cost computer headsets will be good sound as well but may need a bit of RF filtering around an HF transmitter. I did some tests with friends via Skype with my Heil and my computer headsets and the reports indicated the computer and ICm headsets were indistinguishable from each other at the other end. Tom VE7TOM From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rik Head Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:29 PM To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [IC-7000] Re: HEIL HEADSET WITH ICOM 7000 I also use a single side Heil - very good, but I did have to mod it to use with my right ear Rik VK3KAN
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From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ic7000%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ic7000%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of wb0m Sent: 21 March 2010 10:06 To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ic7000%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [IC-7000] Re: HEIL HEADSET WITH ICOM 7000 Does anyone use a Heil Headset with their Icom 7000? If so which model andcartridges do you use? I currently use a Heil iCM desk mic but would like to put a headset intothe mix. Thanks Rick VE3FMCHi Rick, I use the Heil Traveler Single Side boomset. I get good audio reports and it's fairly comfortable whether at home or long drives. It's pretty light and doesn't seem too robust, but I haven't had any problems. 73, Jeff/wb0m ------------------------------------ Community email addresses: Post message: IC7000@yahoogroups.com <mailto:IC7000%40yahoogroups.com> Subscribe: IC7000-subscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:IC7000-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> Unsubscribe: IC7000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:IC7000-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com> List owner: IC7000-owner@yahoogroups.com <mailto:IC7000-owner%40yahoogroups.com> ******************************************************************* "Spam, racism, name-calling, vulgarity, religious or political propaganda, personal insults and/or verbal abuse will not be tolerated in this group at any time. Any member posting such material will be placed on moderated status, and is subject to deletion and banning." ******************************************************************* Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2761 - Release Date: 03/21/10 00:33:00
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Re: [IC-7000] Re: HEIL HEADSET WITH ICOM 7000
Rik Head <rikh@...>
I also use a single side Heil - very good, but I did have to mod it to use
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with my right ear Rik VK3KAN
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From: ic7000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ic7000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wb0m Sent: 21 March 2010 10:06 To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com Subject: [IC-7000] Re: HEIL HEADSET WITH ICOM 7000 Does anyone use a Heil Headset with their Icom 7000? If so which model andcartridges do you use? I currently use a Heil iCM desk mic but would like to put a headset intothe mix. Thanks Rick VE3FMCHi Rick, I use the Heil Traveler Single Side boomset. I get good audio reports and it's fairly comfortable whether at home or long drives. It's pretty light and doesn't seem too robust, but I haven't had any problems. 73, Jeff/wb0m ------------------------------------ Community email addresses: Post message: IC7000@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: IC7000-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: IC7000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: IC7000-owner@yahoogroups.com ******************************************************************* "Spam, racism, name-calling, vulgarity, religious or political propaganda, personal insults and/or verbal abuse will not be tolerated in this group at any time. Any member posting such material will be placed on moderated status, and is subject to deletion and banning." ******************************************************************* Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [IC-7000] HEIL HEADSET WITH ICOM 7000
Brian McCann <bjmccann@...>
I use a Heil Pro Set Plus w/ my 7000. Works really well. Currently my 'DX'
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element is shot though and it needs to go to the Heil Headset Hospital. --Brian W2BJM Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid...shhh...the CIA is listening.
On Mar 19, 2010 12:52 PM, "VE3FMC" <ve3fmc@gto.net> wrote:
Hello Does anyone use a Heil Headset with their Icom 7000? If so which model and cartridges do you use? I currently use a Heil iCM desk mic but would like to put a headset into the mix. Thanks Rick VE3FMC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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