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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Erik Schmidt <oz1es@...>
 

Hate to disappoint you guys, MWE has the information from here or rather
Adam's site.

(I know because I supplied the information via an other ham to him)

Erik - OZ1ES


Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

MKM <mab2000@...>
 

Marty, thanks for the good catch. It is a good reality check.

I would not call this information "rumors" anymore. The radio is real
and is coming soon.

We can only speculate on the specifications.

--What a snow we are having in NYC today!!!

On Feb 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Marty wrote:

Great, thanks for identifying them Adam. Looks like I made a good
find, I was
wondering just who they were!
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Farson [mailto:farson@shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:21 AM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?



Hi Marty,

ICOM IC-7000

HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ ALLMODE IF DSP TRANSCEIVER MED DSP FILTER SOM IC
756
PRO III,D.V.S. INGEN OPTIONAL FILTER. FORVENTET LEVERING ULTIMO 2
KVARTAL
2005 PRIS UKENDT

Translation: Icom IC-7000 HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ all-mode IF DSP
transceiver
with DSP filters like IC756Pro III, i.e. no optional filters.
Projected
delivery end of 2nd quarter 2005. Price unknown.

This will confirm the information supplied to Megahertz magazine by Icom
France. MW Electronic is a major Danish ham-equipment dealer.

(I do not speak Danish, but drew on my knowledge of other Germanic
languages.)

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Marty [mailto:kt4k@bellsouth.net]
Sent: 27 February 2005 23:00
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?


Just when you thought it was the end...
http://www.mwe.dk/ICOM.htm

Marty 8^)






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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Marty <kt4k@...>
 

Great, thanks for identifying them Adam. Looks like I made a good find, I was
wondering just who they were!
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Farson [mailto:farson@shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:21 AM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?



Hi Marty,

ICOM IC-7000

HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ ALLMODE IF DSP TRANSCEIVER MED DSP FILTER SOM IC 756
PRO III,D.V.S. INGEN OPTIONAL FILTER. FORVENTET LEVERING ULTIMO 2 KVARTAL
2005 PRIS UKENDT

Translation: Icom IC-7000 HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ all-mode IF DSP transceiver
with DSP filters like IC756Pro III, i.e. no optional filters. Projected
delivery end of 2nd quarter 2005. Price unknown.

This will confirm the information supplied to Megahertz magazine by Icom
France. MW Electronic is a major Danish ham-equipment dealer.

(I do not speak Danish, but drew on my knowledge of other Germanic
languages.)

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Marty [mailto:kt4k@bellsouth.net]
Sent: 27 February 2005 23:00
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?


Just when you thought it was the end...
http://www.mwe.dk/ICOM.htm

Marty 8^)


Re: Do our comments affect the design of the IC7000 ?

Ralf Reiterer <ralfreit@...>
 

Since many guys have already placed their wishes for the IC-7000 (or
probably for MKII or later), I will add mine below:

My focus will be more on the interoperability features between the
IC-7000 and the computer since most other desires have already been
written by other people. OK, here they are:

* implement a sophisticated CI-V command set that allows (almost) all
functions to be controlled from the computer. As that is the case for
most modern radios like the PROIII and therefore nothing new has to be
invented, that should not a real problem. Just "copy and paste" the
PROIII's firmware code, Icom! ;-)

* document all extended commands like the extended memory read/write 1A
00, so that it is easily usable.

* allow bandscope samples to be read from the computer. The AOR
AR-8200/8600 provides a simliar feature, so it should be possible,
although the bandwidth of the serial cable is limited.

* support special characters like ö,ä,ü,ß,ó,ò,á etc. in memory names. In
Europe almost any language needs them. Icom, take a look the characters
in Windows 1252 and 1250 character set.

* report ALL changes made directly on the radio back to the computer -
currently only frequency and mode changes are reported.

* I vote for keeping the CI-V 3.5mm jack since every Icom radio has it
and therefore allows to operate them all via one bus line.

* But I also welcome an USB or ethernet jack. Ethernet would be better
since it is almost as easy to use as the serial line. USB is a bit
tricky if it is a real USB jack and not a "serial line wrapped into an
USB line" as it is the case for the IC-R20.

I think that's it for the moment. ;-)

Ralf, OE5ROP


Re: Price check for the IC-7000

Matt Yellen
 

ICOM radios are made and assembled in Japan, I have been to the
factory myself.

--- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
Hi Paul,

Considering that all the Japanese manufacturers are now
outsourcing PCB fab,
die-cast chassis injection moulding and other subassembly
manufacture to
lower-labour-cost areas in Asia, Icom should be able to hold the
price down
to the $1K level.

Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture
are
absolutely correct. Economics, as well as performance and
capability, are
driving the shift to 100% DSP implementations.

"In technology, there are only two degrees of freedom: forward and
down.
There is no backwards."

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ



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Re: Do our comments affect the design of the IC7000 ?

MKM <mab2000@...>
 

correct, too late now but the mk2.

Note to Icom:

- I want digital audio IN/OUT.
- I want a complete antenna system for the car a la atas-120, or a new
AH-5 tuner that follows frequency change and tune the antenna system
without transmitting each time (from memory of previously tuned
values).
- Software upgradable through ethernet port which is also used for
remote operation.
- Ability to receive one HF band in SSB/CW and 2m FM AT THE SAME TIME.
This is possible if the fm side of 2m/440 is just a classic non-dsp
design as there is only one IF-DSP chain.
- Please make sure that if we connect ICOM's 2.4 GHz converter, the
display corrects itself for the proper band operation (not displaying
2m frequency while in 2.4ghz mode).
- I repeat my desire for the ethernet port or a USB 2 port. Lets dump
the old control interface for the new USB 2.
- Ability to run down to 9.6V with reduced RX current and power limited
to about 5 watts with display auto-off
- Make sure you use LED backlit for the display.
- Why not put the capability to decode DRM in the DSP and be the first
Amateur equipment to do so.

I do not think there will be enough room for video out for external
display.

-best

On Feb 28, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Brian Mury wrote:

On Mon, 2005-28-02 at 01:13 -0800, Adam Farson wrote:
> Evidence, no. Nothing one could put a finger on. Nevertheless,
informal
> conversations with Icom reps at various shows I have attended over
the years
> suggest that Icom keeps an eye on product-related sites (such as
> http://www.qsl.net/icom/ and my site) and discussion groups.

It is, however, probably too late for the IC-7000. Maybe the MK2...
:-)





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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

MKM <mab2000@...>
 

End of June then...we will see it at Dayton in May.

I was concerned that it would be introduced much later at Japan hamfair
2005 in August, but looks like earlier introduction.

-best

On Feb 28, 2005, at 4:21 AM, Adam Farson wrote:

Hi Marty,

ICOM IC-7000

HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ ALLMODE IF DSP TRANSCEIVER MED DS FILTER SOM IC
756
PRO III,D.V.S. INGEN OPTIONAL FILTER. FORVENTET LEVERING ULTIMO 2
KVARTAL
2005 PRIS UKENDT

Translation: Icom IC-7000 HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ all-mode IF DSP
transceiver
with DSP filters like IC756Pro III, i.e. no optional filters.
Projected
delivery end of 2nd quarter 2005. Price unknown.

This will confirm the information supplied to Megahertz magazine by
Icom
France. MW Electronic is a major Danish ham-equipment dealer.

(I do not speak Danish, but drew on my knowledge of other Germanic
languages.)

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Marty [mailto:kt4k@bellsouth.net]
Sent: 27 February 2005 23:00
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?


Just when you thought it was the end...
http://www.mwe.dk/ICOM.htm

Marty 8^)



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Re: Do our comments affect the design of the IC7000 ?

Brian Mury <ve7ngr@...>
 

On Mon, 2005-28-02 at 01:13 -0800, Adam Farson wrote:
Evidence, no. Nothing one could put a finger on. Nevertheless, informal
conversations with Icom reps at various shows I have attended over the years
suggest that Icom keeps an eye on product-related sites (such as
http://www.qsl.net/icom/ and my site) and discussion groups.
It is, however, probably too late for the IC-7000. Maybe the MK2... :-)


Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Adam Farson
 

Hi Marty,

ICOM IC-7000

HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ ALLMODE IF DSP TRANSCEIVER MED DSP FILTER SOM IC 756
PRO III,D.V.S. INGEN OPTIONAL FILTER. FORVENTET LEVERING ULTIMO 2 KVARTAL
2005 PRIS UKENDT

Translation: Icom IC-7000 HF/50MHZ/144/433 MHZ all-mode IF DSP transceiver
with DSP filters like IC756Pro III, i.e. no optional filters. Projected
delivery end of 2nd quarter 2005. Price unknown.

This will confirm the information supplied to Megahertz magazine by Icom
France. MW Electronic is a major Danish ham-equipment dealer.

(I do not speak Danish, but drew on my knowledge of other Germanic
languages.)

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Marty [mailto:kt4k@bellsouth.net]
Sent: 27 February 2005 23:00
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?


Just when you thought it was the end...
http://www.mwe.dk/ICOM.htm

Marty 8^)



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Re: Do our comments affect the design of the IC7000 ?

Adam Farson
 

Hi Tom,

Evidence, no. Nothing one could put a finger on. Nevertheless, informal
conversations with Icom reps at various shows I have attended over the years
suggest that Icom keeps an eye on product-related sites (such as
http://www.qsl.net/icom/ and my site) and discussion groups.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom [mailto:tgleeman@isp.com]
Sent: 28 February 2005 01:04
To: IC7000
Subject: [ic7000] Do our comments affect the design of the IC7000 ?


Hi IC7000 Fans,

Here's a question for anyone in the Group: Do we have any evidence that what
we write here affects the design of the proposed IC7000?

Tom
KE6YNH, 73
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Do our comments affect the design of the IC7000 ?

Tom <tgleeman@...>
 

Hi IC7000 Fans,

Here's a question for anyone in the Group: Do we have any
evidence that what we write here affects the design of the proposed
IC7000?

Tom
KE6YNH, 73
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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Dr. Howard S. White <drpaper@...>
 

Nothing new.. just the same stuff from the French Magazine

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: Marty
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?


Just when you thought it was the end...
http://www.mwe.dk/ICOM.htm

Marty 8^)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Howard S. White [mailto:drpaper@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:21 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?



Marcus:

The only information anyone has on the IC-7000 is what you have already read in
the French Magazine..PERIOD...

Currently there are no other rumors!



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Re: [OT} jdow's sig Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

Adam Farson
 

Hi Joanne,

This was just a little too far off-topic. Please help us make running the
group a little easier, by not straying too far...(at least Howard's mudslide
story was loosely-coupled to his antenna thread!)

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Marty <kt4k@...>
 

Just when you thought it was the end...
http://www.mwe.dk/ICOM.htm

Marty 8^)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Howard S. White [mailto:drpaper@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:21 PM
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ic7000] 70mhz available on the 7000?



Marcus:

The only information anyone has on the IC-7000 is what you have already read in
the French Magazine..PERIOD...

Currently there are no other rumors!


Re: Wish list, Icom take notes...

Adam Farson
 

Richy, Tom,

I think we can lose the risqué bit.

Best 73,
Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
Owner, Yahoo! ic7000 Group




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Re: Is it for real?

Adam Farson
 

Hi Tom,

The Japanese do not forget 220; there is no amateur 220 MHz allocation
outside Region 2, and they perceive our allocation as somewhat tenuous. It
is a chicken/egg problem.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ



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Re: 70mhz available on the 7000?

Brian Mury <ve7ngr@...>
 

On Sun, 2005-27-02 at 13:49 -0800, jdow wrote:
<grinning> There are ALWAYS a LOT of rumors.
And if not, then let's start some! :-)


Re: Price check for the IC-7000

Dr. Howard S. White <drpaper@...>
 

Who is taking over whom?

Which one will survive?

__________________________________________________________
Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
"Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"

----- Original Message -----
From: jdow
To: ic7000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Re: Price check for the IC-7000


Oh my! Fascinating.
{^_^}
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oba" <ja7ude@gmail.com>

> Adam-san and all,
>
> On February 25, Kenwood and Icom agreed to cross-hold shares and
> join forces in the development of next generation digital
> communication products.
>
> 73 de JA7UDE Oba
>
>
>
> --- In ic7000@yahoogroups.com, Adam Farson <farson@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Considering that all the Japanese manufacturers are now
> outsourcing PCB fab,
> > die-cast chassis injection moulding and other subassembly
> manufacture to
> > lower-labour-cost areas in Asia, Icom should be able to hold the
> price down
> > to the $1K level.
> >
> > Your comments about DSP vs. analogue/crystal-filter architecture
> are
> > absolutely correct. Economics, as well as performance and
> capability, are
> > driving the shift to 100% DSP implementations.
> >
> > "In technology, there are only two degrees of freedom: forward and
> down.
> > There is no backwards."
> >
> > Cheers for now, 73,
> > Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ



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Re: [OT} jdow's sig Re: Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC

Jerry Keller - K3BZ <k3bz@...>
 

Well,"Joanne W6MKU", you dropped two names I've known for many, many years ... Niven and Pournelle, probably the best collaborative writing team ever...not just in SF, but in any genre.
One word: "Footfall".
You're in good company, so I won't worry.
Nice to meet you.

73, Jerry K3BZ

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To: <ic7000@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: [OT} jdow's sig Re: [ic7000] Howie on the Hill.......OFF TOPIC



From: "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@arrl.net>

May we know your name and callsign milady?

73, Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <jdow@earthlink.net>
{^_-} I suppose I'm a lady. W6MKU sure as heck ain't a gentleman. I'm
to vicious when riled. {O,o}
Um, I'm good on QRZ and the call is right there before your eyes in the
message in which you posted that request. I find that amusing. {^_-}

{^_^} as a signature is so ingrained in me it's hard to break. It started
over a couple decades ago.

The first part, which actually happened after the second part had
begun, was my being assigned some work on a VAX-780 running VMS. I
have a character asset called curiosity. When I had time I prowled
around the machine, harmlessly since I could not finish my job if it
broke. I discovered that VMS disks and partitions are referred to as
[000,000] for partition zero disk zero, and so forth. I soon learned
that you can shorten this to [0,0]. I noted the resemblance to a face
right away.

The second part of its beginnings was my participation in an "Amateur
Press Association" "distie" (or distribution) called "APA-L" that is
collated weekly Thursday evenings as the LASFS, Los Angeles Science
Fantasy Society, meetings. Zines, a person's contributions, often had
interliners, stings of symbols to set off sections. One day I used
"[0,0]" repeated across the page for the first interliner. Then I
decided a variation on the theme might be interesting. By illogical
progression I started using [^_^] as a signature at the end of my
Zine.

Now, it seems Jerry Pournelle (yeah him) is a member in very long
and good standing of LASFS. He had gotten to know that I had computers
and modems. This was in 1985 with SLOW SLOW modems, mind you. He had
also heard I was doing some BBS work and CP/M hacking. One day he took
me aside and told me to find a "Tymnet" phone number and type "bix" at
the prompts, or something like that.

So when I got home I did. BIX was booted near the last day of March. I
was on it by early June of 1985. And [O_O] became my signature. On BIX
it was easy to "show resume" to figure out who a person was. So that
soon became my only signature. That lasted until not very long ago
when the lights were finally turned out at BIX. During that time the
signature rounded out a little, which I think is a little more
feminine. And I developed the {O,o} (crazed}, {^_-} (wink), and many
other variants.

It's hard to break a habit of essentially 20 years making. I still tend
to sign messages {^_^}. There is this little "reinforcement" that I see,
too. The ambiguity tends to lull people into thinking I might be one of
the guys. So when I start talking dirty er technical they have a better
chance of listening. Can you guess at my degree of contentment with the
kind of situation that has me the senior engineer present in a meeting
with the customer's men all asking the other men questions I should be
the one answering? Then when one of them turns to me to ask if I'd go
get coffee.... They were customers. I managed to hold a straight face
as I said I'd ask a secretary to get it. "My" half of the room visibly
relaxed when I kept my cool. At least some of them had noticed my
growing irritation. {^_-} So anyway, the "logical mistakes" tend to
reinforce the relative anonymity of the "BIXie" signature.

{^_-} Joanne, Wilma's 6 Mangy Kinky Undies (Wonderful 6 Million
Kilowatts Unleashed?) And for the record "every Thursday"
above means it. There have been fewer meetings that did not
happen than there are years the club has existed. And it's
the oldest SF club in continuous existance in the known
universe. (Yes, Larry Niven, the author, is also a member.)




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Oh ye of little faith! See new inter-net address below for more info....

Larry Coppala <k4sfc@...>
 

http://www.rigpix.com/icom/ic7000.htm
It's just a little more than we knew, i.e. the modes offered. There
was a question about CW.
Also, this should quiet the "naysayers".
K4SFC Larry
(found this through Google)