Pheasant


Jeffrey Schoonmaker
 

Found a Ring-necked Pheasant walking across the front lawn of house #323 on Blackhouse Rd. at the F. E. Grslnds at 3:27 p.m. today.
As of 4:35 p.m., no Short-eared Owls were showing up for the 10 car loads of hopeful folks waiting in the Plum Rd. Theater parking area.

Jeff Schoonmaker


zach schwartz-weinstein
 

I believe the state releases them there for hunters.  (Or so a ranger told me once when he saw me walking along the new trail and mistook my scope for a firearm.)

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:49 PM Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...> wrote:
Found a Ring-necked Pheasant walking across the front lawn of house #323 on Blackhouse Rd. at the F. E. Grslnds at 3:27 p.m. today.
As of 4:35 p.m., no Short-eared Owls were showing up for the 10 car loads of hopeful folks waiting in the Plum Rd. Theater parking area.

Jeff Schoonmaker

--
Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
203 500 7774


Lindsey Duval <lindsey.duval@...>
 

Well look what I found, this link shows that the pheasants are released in the Washington County State Forest, which I presume to be that trail on Blackhouse Rd as our hotspot holds that same name, for youth hunts: https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9349.html

I swear there used to be a release further up on Rt 41 in Kingsbury/Smith's Basin ages ago as well but that was word-of-mouth.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 5:51 PM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
I believe the state releases them there for hunters.  (Or so a ranger told me once when he saw me walking along the new trail and mistook my scope for a firearm.)

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:49 PM Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...> wrote:
Found a Ring-necked Pheasant walking across the front lawn of house #323 on Blackhouse Rd. at the F. E. Grslnds at 3:27 p.m. today.
As of 4:35 p.m., no Short-eared Owls were showing up for the 10 car loads of hopeful folks waiting in the Plum Rd. Theater parking area.

Jeff Schoonmaker

--
Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
203 500 7774


Ellen
 

I found a Ring-Necked Pheasant at the intersection of Fitzgerald Dr. and Blackhouse Rd. last Friday.  Maybe the same bird?

 

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Ellen P.

West Charlton

 

From: hmbirds@groups.io <hmbirds@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schoonmaker
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 5:49 PM
To: HMBirds <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: [hmbirds] Pheasant

 

Found a Ring-necked Pheasant walking across the front lawn of house #323 on Blackhouse Rd. at the F. E. Grslnds at 3:27 p.m. today.

As of 4:35 p.m., no Short-eared Owls were showing up for the 10 car loads of hopeful folks waiting in the Plum Rd. Theater parking area.

 

Jeff Schoonmaker


ConserveBirds
 

Southern Adirondack Audubon protested the release of pheasants in this area when we heard of the plan.  Somehow releasing an alien introduced species for hunting in an area purchased and supposedly protected for an endangered native species seemed very counter productive.  DEC’s reasoning was that they had to keep the hunters happy and they wouldn’t make it through the winter.  However, pheasants are commonly seen now in Spring and Summer, long before the next group is released in the fall. So….?

 

Mona Bearor

Now in Stuart’s Draft Hwy, Staunton, VA

 

 

 

From: hmbirds@groups.io [mailto:hmbirds@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lindsey Duval
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:14 PM
To: zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...>
Cc: Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...>; HMBirds <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hmbirds] Pheasant

 

Well look what I found, this link shows that the pheasants are released in the Washington County State Forest, which I presume to be that trail on Blackhouse Rd as our hotspot holds that same name, for youth hunts: https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9349.html

 

I swear there used to be a release further up on Rt 41 in Kingsbury/Smith's Basin ages ago as well but that was word-of-mouth.

 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 5:51 PM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:

I believe the state releases them there for hunters.  (Or so a ranger told me once when he saw me walking along the new trail and mistook my scope for a firearm.)

 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:49 PM Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...> wrote:

Found a Ring-necked Pheasant walking across the front lawn of house #323 on Blackhouse Rd. at the F. E. Grslnds at 3:27 p.m. today.

As of 4:35 p.m., no Short-eared Owls were showing up for the 10 car loads of hopeful folks waiting in the Plum Rd. Theater parking area.

 

Jeff Schoonmaker

--

Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
203 500 7774


kernscot
 

Mona-

I remember this and also protested. I understand DEC and politics, but it made me uneasy to bird in the area and see hunters walking through. I believe they also deer hunt there too.

Nancy Kern




From: hmbirds@groups.io <hmbirds@groups.io> on behalf of ConserveBirds <conservebirds@...>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: 'Lindsey Duval' <lindsey.duval@...>; 'zach schwartz-weinstein' <zachsw@...>
Cc: 'Jeffrey Schoonmaker' <j.schoonmaker@...>; 'HMBirds' <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hmbirds] Pheasant
 

Southern Adirondack Audubon protested the release of pheasants in this area when we heard of the plan.  Somehow releasing an alien introduced species for hunting in an area purchased and supposedly protected for an endangered native species seemed very counter productive.  DEC’s reasoning was that they had to keep the hunters happy and they wouldn’t make it through the winter.  However, pheasants are commonly seen now in Spring and Summer, long before the next group is released in the fall. So….?

 

Mona Bearor

Now in Stuart’s Draft Hwy, Staunton, VA

 

 

 

From: hmbirds@groups.io [mailto:hmbirds@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lindsey Duval
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:14 PM
To: zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...>
Cc: Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...>; HMBirds <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hmbirds] Pheasant

 

Well look what I found, this link shows that the pheasants are released in the Washington County State Forest, which I presume to be that trail on Blackhouse Rd as our hotspot holds that same name, for youth hunts: https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9349.html

 

I swear there used to be a release further up on Rt 41 in Kingsbury/Smith's Basin ages ago as well but that was word-of-mouth.

 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 5:51 PM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:

I believe the state releases them there for hunters.  (Or so a ranger told me once when he saw me walking along the new trail and mistook my scope for a firearm.)

 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:49 PM Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...> wrote:

Found a Ring-necked Pheasant walking across the front lawn of house #323 on Blackhouse Rd. at the F. E. Grslnds at 3:27 p.m. today.

As of 4:35 p.m., no Short-eared Owls were showing up for the 10 car loads of hopeful folks waiting in the Plum Rd. Theater parking area.

 

Jeff Schoonmaker

--

Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
203 500 7774


ConserveBirds
 

The area is closed to hunting at certain times when the owls may be present; I can’t recall the dates now.  It still bothers me that NYS does not give birders the opportunity to purchase a special annual bird stamp that would support conservation efforts for birds.  I have always purchased a duck stamp but with no way to specify that you are a birder, it is assumed that the fees all come from hunters.  Just my 2 cents.

Mona

 

From: Nancy Jane Kern [mailto:kernscot@...]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:47 PM
To: ConserveBirds <conservebirds@...>; 'Lindsey Duval' <lindsey.duval@...>; 'zach schwartz-weinstein' <zachsw@...>
Cc: 'Jeffrey Schoonmaker' <j.schoonmaker@...>; 'HMBirds' <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hmbirds] Pheasant

 

Mona-

 

I remember this and also protested. I understand DEC and politics, but it made me uneasy to bird in the area and see hunters walking through. I believe they also deer hunt there too.

 

Nancy Kern

 

 

 


From: hmbirds@groups.io <hmbirds@groups.io> on behalf of ConserveBirds <conservebirds@...>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: 'Lindsey Duval' <lindsey.duval@...>; 'zach schwartz-weinstein' <zachsw@...>
Cc: 'Jeffrey Schoonmaker' <j.schoonmaker@...>; 'HMBirds' <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hmbirds] Pheasant

 

Southern Adirondack Audubon protested the release of pheasants in this area when we heard of the plan.  Somehow releasing an alien introduced species for hunting in an area purchased and supposedly protected for an endangered native species seemed very counter productive.  DEC’s reasoning was that they had to keep the hunters happy and they wouldn’t make it through the winter.  However, pheasants are commonly seen now in Spring and Summer, long before the next group is released in the fall. So….?

 

Mona Bearor

Now in Stuart’s Draft Hwy, Staunton, VA

 

 

 

From: hmbirds@groups.io [mailto:hmbirds@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lindsey Duval
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:14 PM
To: zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...>
Cc: Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...>; HMBirds <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hmbirds] Pheasant

 

Well look what I found, this link shows that the pheasants are released in the Washington County State Forest, which I presume to be that trail on Blackhouse Rd as our hotspot holds that same name, for youth hunts: https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9349.html

 

I swear there used to be a release further up on Rt 41 in Kingsbury/Smith's Basin ages ago as well but that was word-of-mouth.

 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 5:51 PM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:

I believe the state releases them there for hunters.  (Or so a ranger told me once when he saw me walking along the new trail and mistook my scope for a firearm.)

 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:49 PM Jeffrey Schoonmaker <j.schoonmaker@...> wrote:

Found a Ring-necked Pheasant walking across the front lawn of house #323 on Blackhouse Rd. at the F. E. Grslnds at 3:27 p.m. today.

As of 4:35 p.m., no Short-eared Owls were showing up for the 10 car loads of hopeful folks waiting in the Plum Rd. Theater parking area.

 

Jeff Schoonmaker

--

Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
203 500 7774


Alan
 

I should have done this earlier, but I just thought to look at my yard list. It's actually a Bird Checklist for Five Rivers Environmental Education Center published in 1983.

I note that both Ring-necked Pheasant and Northern Bobwhite are on the checklist. The Pheasant is labeled as U (uncommon - A species which you can occasionally expect to see during its normal period of occurrence) and P (permanent resident - A species which remains in the Five Rivers re all seasons of the year and breeds here). The Bobwhite is labeled as RP (R, rare - A species you can only expect to see by chance).

Clearly this has changed over the past 37 years.

Both have been seen in my yard, Ring-necked Pheasant on 11/2/2005 and Bobwhite on 9/20/2007. The two Bobwhites stayed around for a couple of weeks and were frequently seen under my feeders.

While whether they are countable in various situations may be debatable, I am happy to have a record of their appearance here.

I also note that Red-bellied Woodpecker is nowhere on the Five Rivers Checklist, not on birds at Five Rivers, "Species seen less than five times...," or "Species which occur in the area but have not yet been seen at Five Rivers." I had to pencil it in when we first saw one in the yard in October, 1993.

Clear skies, Alan
Glenville


Alan Mapes
 

Alan - I’m thinking back to the time that we created that checklist for Five Rivers. A neighboring landowner raised and released these two species for hunting and dog training purposes back then. The pheasants, I believe, had some broods of young in the wild - not so sure about the bobwhites.

Cheers, Alan Mapes



On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 1:57 PM Alan <adfrench@...> wrote:
I should have done this earlier, but I just thought to look at my yard
list. It's actually a Bird Checklist for Five Rivers Environmental
Education Center published in 1983.

I note that both Ring-necked Pheasant and Northern Bobwhite are on the
checklist. The Pheasant is labeled as U (uncommon - A species which you
can occasionally expect to see during its normal period of occurrence)
and P (permanent resident - A species which remains in the Five Rivers
re all seasons of the year and breeds here). The Bobwhite is labeled as
RP (R, rare - A species you can only expect to see by chance).

Clearly this has changed over the past 37 years.

Both have been seen in my yard, Ring-necked Pheasant on 11/2/2005 and
Bobwhite on 9/20/2007. The two Bobwhites stayed around for a couple of
weeks and were frequently seen under my feeders.

While whether they are countable in various situations may be debatable,
I am happy to have a record of their appearance here.

I also note that Red-bellied Woodpecker is nowhere on the Five Rivers
Checklist, not on birds at Five Rivers, "Species seen less than five
times...," or "Species which occur in the area but have not yet been
seen at Five Rivers." I had to pencil it in when we first saw one in the
yard in October, 1993.

Clear skies, Alan
Glenville






Alan
 

Alan, interesting, thanks! So I guess they were rather local populations.

The Northern Bobwhites here were the only ones I have ever seen.

Clear skies, Alan

On 1/16/2021 2:37 PM, Alan Mapes wrote:
Alan - I’m thinking back to the time that we created that checklist for Five Rivers. A neighboring landowner raised and released these two species for hunting and dog training purposes back then. The pheasants, I believe, had some broods of young in the wild - not so sure about the bobwhites.

Cheers, Alan Mapes



On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 1:57 PM Alan <adfrench@...> wrote:
I should have done this earlier, but I just thought to look at my yard
list. It's actually a Bird Checklist for Five Rivers Environmental
Education Center published in 1983.

I note that both Ring-necked Pheasant and Northern Bobwhite are on the
checklist. The Pheasant is labeled as U (uncommon - A species which you
can occasionally expect to see during its normal period of occurrence)
and P (permanent resident - A species which remains in the Five Rivers
re all seasons of the year and breeds here). The Bobwhite is labeled as
RP (R, rare - A species you can only expect to see by chance).

Clearly this has changed over the past 37 years.

Both have been seen in my yard, Ring-necked Pheasant on 11/2/2005 and
Bobwhite on 9/20/2007. The two Bobwhites stayed around for a couple of
weeks and were frequently seen under my feeders.

While whether they are countable in various situations may be debatable,
I am happy to have a record of their appearance here.

I also note that Red-bellied Woodpecker is nowhere on the Five Rivers
Checklist, not on birds at Five Rivers, "Species seen less than five
times...," or "Species which occur in the area but have not yet been
seen at Five Rivers." I had to pencil it in when we first saw one in the
yard in October, 1993.

Clear skies, Alan
Glenville