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Violet-green Swallow (pics and follow-up)

jhershey2
 

On Thursday I celebrated Earth Day (4/22) in an unusual way by accidentally discovering a mega-rarity for New York State at Vischer Ferry Preserve. Word got out and many birders quickly showed up at Vischer Ferry from as far as Long Island in hopes of seeing what would be the first recorded Violet-green Swallow in New York State.  Many people including myself searched on Thursday afternoon and a few on Friday to refind the bird that unmistakably appeared in my photo files for the morning.  As far as I know though until now, no one has been able to find the bird. This I really regret.  I only saw it originally in the technical sense that I aimed the camera in the right direction and snapped the shutter.  Anyway, there have been fairly large numbers of foraging swallows over the ponds and the canal in the last few days so that the bird could still be present nearby.  I've attached a few of my pics which vary in quality but particularly illustrate the beautiful iridescent purple plumage on the rump of this strictly Western bird.   

John H. 


Early Morning Five Rivers Birding

Barbara Beebe
 

Highlights were;

Blue-gray Gnatcatcher

Hermit Thrush

Brown Thrasher singing its heart out in front of us

Happy Birding, Barb Beebe


White-crowned Sparrows, RensCo

Naomi Lloyd
 


I had my FOY White-crowned Sparrows on American Oil Rd this morning. Singing quietly

Naomi Lloyd


Wicked easy Louisiana Waterthrush - Saratoga Cty

Lindsey Duval <lindsey.duval@...>
 

If anybody is looking for a wicked easy-to-get Louisiana Waterthrush in Saratoga County, there is one singing behind the first committal shelter in the Saratoga National Cemetery (not sure what number, but it is on the very north end). 


Re: [nysbirds-l] RWSW Not yet

Richard Guthrie
 

Gee, I'm sorry everyone for my dumbass mistake yesterday. There's no excuse.

I should probably have waited till I got home and could actually see what I had typed into the tiny cellphone  keyboard. 

It won't happen again, at least I hope not.

So now would be a good time to end this thread and let these lists go back to their intended purposes.

R. Guthrie

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:27 PM ArieGilbert <ArieGilbert@...> wrote:
I went in search of the VG.... er, Violet-green Swallow, and did not catch up with it - though I did catch up with Richard Guthrie.

Most if not all of us like short cuts, which include banding codes. They may serve banders well who use them professionally and are intimately familiar with that group’s vernacular, but for others, it can ( and obviously does ) lead to discord.

I admit that at times being stumped by a code whose meaning escapes me. While there may have been temporary frustration, speaking for myself it does not foment much ado. To me, its no different to throw a HERG into the text, as it is to throw in the terms remiges, or patagial bar. I can look it up, because I have an interest in birds and birding and it’s a learning experience.

When I am unfamiliar with a term I used to look it up in the dictionary. Now, all I have to do is double-click to highlight the word, right-click on it, and select “ search google for (the word)”.  For band codes, I use the Sibley app when necessary. It allows one to search for a bird by band code. Mystery solved.  

Yeah, spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, and incorrect band codes etc can interrupt the cognitive flow, but I suspect that some do not want to be ‘inconvenienced’ by having to do such odious work as ‘looking it up’ or knowing that the author used the wrong choice between they’re, their, or there. Oh well.

In lieu of band codes I have found simple abbreviations to work as well if not better in saving my lazy self from the tortuous chore of spelling out the complete name. W pel may be easier than AWPE, for example. At other times I have found that 3-3 is better than the standard 2-2 of band codes. BarSwa and BanSwa eliminates one of many collisions that are inevitable, and only requires 2 more letters typed! 

Even the spoken word has room for simplification; one might say “Rough-wing” instead of Northern Rough-winged Swallow or “Moe Doe” instead of Mourning Dove. I enjoy the portmanteau and find that Redhatch rolls off the tongue so much better than Red-breasted Nuthatch; as does Americrow, Rublet, and many others.

So while an erroneous band code may be upsetting to some, trust me, its nowhere near as upsetting as attempting to relocate that swallow several hours distant and not succeeding.

At least peak migration is just around the corner!

Arie Gilbert 
North Babylon NY 


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Date: 4/22/21 2:44 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: NYSBIRDS_L <nysbirds-l@...>, Hmbirds <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] RWSW Not yet

Several birders here. No swallow

Yet

Rich Guthrie

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Re: [nysbirds-l] RWSW Not yet

Arie Gilbert
 

I went in search of the VG.... er, Violet-green Swallow, and did not catch up with it - though I did catch up with Richard Guthrie.

Most if not all of us like short cuts, which include banding codes. They may serve banders well who use them professionally and are intimately familiar with that group’s vernacular, but for others, it can ( and obviously does ) lead to discord.

I admit that at times being stumped by a code whose meaning escapes me. While there may have been temporary frustration, speaking for myself it does not foment much ado. To me, its no different to throw a HERG into the text, as it is to throw in the terms remiges, or patagial bar. I can look it up, because I have an interest in birds and birding and it’s a learning experience.

When I am unfamiliar with a term I used to look it up in the dictionary. Now, all I have to do is double-click to highlight the word, right-click on it, and select “ search google for (the word)”.  For band codes, I use the Sibley app when necessary. It allows one to search for a bird by band code. Mystery solved.  

Yeah, spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, and incorrect band codes etc can interrupt the cognitive flow, but I suspect that some do not want to be ‘inconvenienced’ by having to do such odious work as ‘looking it up’ or knowing that the author used the wrong choice between they’re, their, or there. Oh well.

In lieu of band codes I have found simple abbreviations to work as well if not better in saving my lazy self from the tortuous chore of spelling out the complete name. W pel may be easier than AWPE, for example. At other times I have found that 3-3 is better than the standard 2-2 of band codes. BarSwa and BanSwa eliminates one of many collisions that are inevitable, and only requires 2 more letters typed! 

Even the spoken word has room for simplification; one might say “Rough-wing” instead of Northern Rough-winged Swallow or “Moe Doe” instead of Mourning Dove. I enjoy the portmanteau and find that Redhatch rolls off the tongue so much better than Red-breasted Nuthatch; as does Americrow, Rublet, and many others.

So while an erroneous band code may be upsetting to some, trust me, its nowhere near as upsetting as attempting to relocate that swallow several hours distant and not succeeding.

At least peak migration is just around the corner!

Arie Gilbert 
North Babylon NY 


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-------- Original message --------
From: Richard Guthrie <richardpguthrie@...>
Date: 4/22/21 2:44 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: NYSBIRDS_L <nysbirds-l@...>, Hmbirds <hmbirds@groups.io>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] RWSW Not yet

Several birders here. No swallow

Yet

Rich Guthrie

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Normanside Farm

Robert S Pastel
 

This morning the parking lot was filled with yellowrumps and rc kinglets.  Here is another Whipple bridge.  






Robert S. Pastel


Violet-green Swallow update - no subsequent sightings today

Richard Guthrie
 

The Violet-green Swallow that was photographed at Vischer Ferry Nature and Historic Preserve in southern Saratoga County this morning was not refound throughout the rest of the day today, Thursday, April 22.

The bird had been photographed as it perched on a branch along the old canal tow-path about 1/4 to 1/2 mile west of the "Whipple Bridge" entrance to the preserve (at the intersection of Riverview and Van Vranken Roads in Halfmoon, NY).

There was a congregation of about 30 Northern Rough-winged, Tree, and Barn Swallows milling around the target area. There was also a larger concentration of swallows at a marina to the east of the preserve and probably other groups out of sight along the Mohawk River.

The weather there was rather brutal with biting winds much of the time and occasional snow flurries with about a dozen or so birders toughing it out through much of the day.

Given the weather for the next day or so, it's unlikely the swallows will continue their migration journey soon. But the prospects of re-finding this bird is in the order of the needle in the haystack odds.. But there will be some of us trying anyway.

Updates will be posted as appropriate.

Good luck if you go for it.

Rich Guthrie
New Baltimore,
The Greene County
NY



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RWSW Not yet

Richard Guthrie
 

Several birders here. No swallow

Yet

Rich Guthrie


Re: [nysbirds-l] Violet-green swallow, Vischer Ferry

zach schwartz-weinstein
 

Excuse me, there is some confusion about my response to Brian’s joke.  Several bridges, not several VGSWs.  It has not been refound yet.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:24 PM zach schwartz-weinstein via groups.io <zachsw=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
We actually have several here 

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:14 PM <brian.whipple@...> wrote:
That's my favorite bridge.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:38 AM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
John adds “ It was along the towpath west of the Whipple Bridge perching on a tree with some Northern Rough-winged Swallows.”

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:53 AM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
John Hershey photographed a Violet Green Swallow at Vischer Ferry, Saratoga County today.  Photo is attached: 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Violet-green swallow, Vischer Ferry

zach schwartz-weinstein
 

We actually have several here 

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:14 PM <brian.whipple@...> wrote:
That's my favorite bridge.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:38 AM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
John adds “ It was along the towpath west of the Whipple Bridge perching on a tree with some Northern Rough-winged Swallows.”

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:53 AM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
John Hershey photographed a Violet Green Swallow at Vischer Ferry, Saratoga County today.  Photo is attached: 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Violet-green swallow, Vischer Ferry

Brian Whipple
 

That's my favorite bridge.


On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:38 AM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
John adds “ It was along the towpath west of the Whipple Bridge perching on a tree with some Northern Rough-winged Swallows.”

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:53 AM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
John Hershey photographed a Violet Green Swallow at Vischer Ferry, Saratoga County today.  Photo is attached: 
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Violet-green Swallow - Vischer Ferry

jhershey2
 

The Violet-green Swallow was along the towpath west of the Whipple Bridge at Vischer Ferry Preserve.  It was perched on a small tree along with some Northern Rough-winged Swallows.  I saw it approximately around 9:30 am.  

John H.


Re: Violet-green swallow, Vischer Ferry

zach schwartz-weinstein
 

John adds “ It was along the towpath west of the Whipple Bridge perching on a tree with some Northern Rough-winged Swallows.”

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:53 AM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw@...> wrote:
John Hershey photographed a Violet Green Swallow at Vischer Ferry, Saratoga County today.  Photo is attached: 
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Violet-green swallow, Vischer Ferry

zach schwartz-weinstein
 

John Hershey photographed a Violet Green Swallow at Vischer Ferry, Saratoga County today.  Photo is attached: 
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Hermit thrushes

Robert S Pastel
 

We have four hermit thrushes in our little patch of backyard in the city of Albany.

Robert S. Pastel


Savannah Sparrows - Halfmoon

Lindsey Duval <lindsey.duval@...>
 

Figured out that the traveling party the 4 Vesper Sparrows was with consisted of 20 Savannah Sparrows!


Vesper Sparrows - Halfmoon Town Park

Lindsey Duval <lindsey.duval@...>
 

I just found 4 Vesper Sparrows at the Halfmoon Town Park, and there may be more as their initial group broke apart. By the farm field, right near the trail.


Yellow-rumps at Pine Hollow Arboretum -Slingerlands

Cynthia Edwardson
 

Chris and I just walked the trails at Pine Hollow Arboretum in Slingerlands and observed a mini Yellow-rumped warbler wave there.  We counted at least 20, all Myrtle variety males, but there were likely more high in the trees as we saw lots of little birds moving. 

Cindy Edwardson


New Arrivals in Schenectady.

Weiskotten, Kurt
 

Rose-breasted Grosbeak at the feeder just now, and House Wren singing in the hedgerow!   So it begins …    Bellevue Section of Schenectady.

 

 

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