Like wise your "preferred option" is also not an option. As I've said before why would I want to change to anything else when this one is the best (In my Humble Opinion)!
Thanks' for taking the time to evaluate my findings.
Cheers
73
Ian G4GIR
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Sent: 24/10/2022 22:41:53
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] For Gary - ZL2IFB
No change is anticipated (double speak for don't hold your breath).
As explained, the statistics for Satellite QSOs follow the ARRL concept that the QSO mode is actually the PROP_MODE (which is SAT) rather than the normally accepted MODE of CW/SSB/RTTY/etc.
Your expectation is for both - Statistics for SAT and statistics for MODE. The statistics by MODE would allow the QSOB4 function to detect previous band/mode QSOs with a station and the statistics where the MODE is SAT would allow LoTW interchange of SAT MODE contact.
It was suggested that you not have a PROP_MODE field on the logbook entry window. This gives you the traditional MODE (in this case FT4/FT8) statistics. To satisfy the ARRL concept of a MODE called SAT, it was suggested to customize your ADIF export to add <PROP_MODE:3 >SAT <SAT_NAME:6>QO-100
I would guess a one time effort of ten minutes max. SeventyThree(s).
PS. My preference would be that you choose a logging program more to your liking. I really don't want to have to go through this again.
On 10/24/2022 5:02 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Bob,
As the reason for the problem has been identified do you hope to fix it?
73
Ian
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Sent: 23/10/2022 22:32:19
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] For Gary - ZL2IFB
Apparently it works. And, looking at the code again, it would appear that there are those who believe EME (like SAT) is a mode. Must be the same folks who believe DC is a US State. SeventyThree(s).
PS. It takes two strong men and two bricks.
On 10/23/2022 4:08 PM Bob <
k4cy@...> wrote:
I don't know if it'll work or not Pete. The code appears to have been added so that those who operate satellites can have a SAT column in their worked/confirmed window (to them SAT is a mode (like CW/SSB/etc. are to the rest of us). Difficult to keep everyone happy. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/23/2022 3:50 PM n5kd <
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Maybe Gary could add this to the already excellent manual.
73' Pete, N5KD.
On 10/23/2022 18:32:42, Bob wrote:
After looking at the code again, it would appear that internal to Logger32 if the PROP_MODE is set to SAT and the SAT_NAME is anything, then the QSO mode is viewed as SAT and not FT4, FT8, whatever). Maybe that's why QSOB4 is failing in your setup.
You could try setting PROP_MODE to QO-100 SAT (or anything except SAT). Or, simply leave SAT_NAME empty.
SeventyThree(s).
On 10/23/2022 12:08 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
Ok Bob, Nay, tis not working how I want.
It just isn't working correctly.
Hopefully some one else can prove my point!!
73
Ian
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Sent: 23/10/2022 17:00:04
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
If it's working as you want thenYay! If it's not, c'est la vie, I don't know why. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/23/2022 11:11 AM G4GIR via groups.io <
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Hello Bob,
Has my info helped at all, need to get rid of this headache, please, don't say Tylenol!!
73
Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 21:49:06
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
OK, so the very pale green color is no longer showing. What color was your LZ1GM highlighted on the UDP BandMap?
Also, the cherry-picker event viewer says why it called the station (see sample below) . What did it say?
SeventyThree(s).
On 10/22/2022 4:41 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello Bob
Got a break in proceedings, can tell you that removing the very pale green highlight hasn't made any difference.
Just made a QSO with LZ1GM, Notice it says Need on 13cm FT8.
When I delete either SAT or QO-100, I suddenly don't need LZ anymore.
Look forward to an explanation.
73
Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 19:27:19
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
Thanks' Bob, not yet, will try that later, time to entertain the wife!!
Talk tomorrow.
73 Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 19:20:40
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
Logger32 doesn't know it's a satellite QSO, and even if it did, it doesn't care. Did you disable the very pale green highlight as requested? SeventyThree(s).
On 10/22/2022 1:56 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
I only managed an F in English!
Belgium just happens to be 1 example the problem is with every QSO I have had on QO-100 FT-8. Do you not have a comment on my theory, seems extremely plausible to me?
73
Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 18:31:52
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
Whatever is causing Belgium to be highlighted very pale green in the UDP BandMap needs to be turned off ... Right click on the DX Spot window. Click Setup | Appearance | DX Spot highlight colors. UNcheck whatever is very light green. Click Apply.
SeventyThree(s).
PS. I'd rather 'bear with you' than 'bare with you'. English is not my native tongue, but I think bear vs bare is what's called a homonym. What a piss-poor language.
On 10/22/2022 1:05 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
Very pale Green!!
I have another theory, bare with me.
I think that L32 Is looking at the JTDX decode of Belgium on 13cm FT8 and deciding I need it so call it, as shown in the previous screen shot. What L32 is not taking into account is that it is a SATELLITE QSO, which of course I have worked, so don't call as already worked.
Any thoughts?
73
Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 17:03:52
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
... and what did the Belgian station look like in the UDP BandMap? SeventyThree(s).
On 10/22/2022 11:23 AM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
I spoke too soon, having the Block QSOB4 BAND/MODE ticked or unticked makes no difference.
I spotted this Telling me I need Belgium on 13cm FT8 but as you can see it has been worked on 13cm.
Is this showing a clue?
73
Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 15:13:59
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
Thanks' Bob, Yes it was the QSOB4 band/mode not ticked. That's' why I had no problem on HF because it was ticked.
This new L32 Configuration was only created a few days ago, the HF config was created years ago, so remembering these subtle switches and where to find them is a nightmare.
Thanks' for the help.
73
Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 14:25:29
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
The callsign, band, and mode as shown in the logbook entry window are used to determine if the station has been QSOd before, and if it has does it match the currently selected QSOB4 option. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/22/2022 9:12 AM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
Morning Bob,
What you said in an earlier e-mail was:-
"If you're cherry-picking, it's Logger32 that decides to call the station or not. And, to Logger32, it's only one band - 13cm. SeventyThree(s). "
So which column does L32 get it's information from FREQ or FREQ RX, it looks like it is looking at FREQ RX, hence 3cm therefore it says I haven't worked this one on 13cm lets call him?
Or are you saying it just looks at the BAND column?
73
Ian G4GIR
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Sent: 22/10/2022 13:42:12
Subject: Re: Fw: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
I don't understand the question. 73.
On 10/22/2022 5:33 AM G4GIR via groups.io <
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Bob which Column in L32 is checked for 13cm?
73
Ian
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Sent: 22/10/2022 09:58:56
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
Ok that narrows things down a bit. 13cm is the ADIF field BAND, so if we disregard all the cherry picker options, L32 looks for the CALL, MODE and BAND to determine if it should call or not?
73 Ian
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Sent: 21/10/2022 22:24:09
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
If you're cherry-picking, it's Logger32 that decides to call the station or not. And, to Logger32, it's only one band - 13cm. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/21/2022 5:16 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
Yes Bob it works for me on HF but this is QO-100, two different bands and frequencies involved, I am wondering what JTDX is looking for to deem a decode as a worked before station, TX or RX frequency, I see there is only 3cm 10489.54xx in the JTDX ADIF log but in the L32 Log entry window it has the TX frequency, 13cm 2400.4xx, could this be a problem, as on HF of course it is going to be one band only? I don't know. Any thoughts?
73
Ian G4GIR Orf to Bed
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Here is the top of the log entry window.
What do I need to check in the cherry picker settings?
73
Ian G4GIR
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Sent: 21/10/2022 20:11:46
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
... check out the top of page 337 in the help file. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/21/2022 3:05 PM Bob <
k4cy@...> wrote:
That's half of the answer. Now what is the mode showing at the top of the Logbook Entry Window? If it is also 13cm, then double check your cherry-picking option settings. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/21/2022 2:55 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
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Updated showing Band 13cm
Cheers
Ian
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: 21/10/2022 19:46:53
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
The picture doesn't show what Band the OK1UFC QSO was logged as. I can't see the Band that 10.489540GHz is translated to in the Logbook Entry Window. Hopefully they are the same. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/21/2022 2:10 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
Tried your suggestions Bob, nothing doing.
To show the problem I worked OK1UFC at 17:51 using the Cherry Picker as you can see in the below screen shot as logged. At 17:57, Cherry Picker starts calling him again, is there a switch to stop the Cherry picker calling when it is already worked on the same band and Mode?
73
Ian G4GIR
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Sent: 20/10/2022 17:13:31
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
Just a SWAG ... You could try UNchecking the 'Cherry-pick only stations that are highlighted' and/or UNchecking the 'Not confirmed' highlight color option. SeventyThree(s).
On 10/20/2022 12:01 PM G4GIR via groups.io <
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Cheers Bob
Because that particular station is not confirmed!
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: 20/10/2022 16:36:51
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Cherry Picker Headache.
You said: The problem I have now is that when using the cherry picker it is calling stations I have already worked on QO-100 FT8
You have the option Cherry-pick only stations that are highlighted.
If, as you say, you have already worked a station on QO-100 FT4/8, why is it highlighted?
SeventyThree(s)
On 10/20/2022 11:16 AM G4GIR via groups.io <
i.frith@...> wrote:
I have finally got a working setup for L32, QO-100, JTDX FT8 and SDRConsole all talking and logging OK using an FT-991.
The problem I have now is that when using the cherry picker it is calling stations I have already worked on QO-100 FT8.
The options are as below, am I right in thinking that as the first 2 options are ticked, then the result I am getting is to be expected?
Also the 4th option ticked, Does this relate to the list of stations in the UDP band map? LY1FX in light green? Should the cherry picker select this one and Call it? Light green is Country Not Confirmed this Band/Mode.
Is this Highlight color taken from the colors set up in "DX Spot Highlight Co lours"
Thanks' for any help.
I find the manual great but a minefield to find what you want!!
73
Ian G4GIR
