Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
On 06/07/2022 12:57 PM VA7DXX David <va7dxx@...> wrote:
I need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX
----- Original Message -----From: VA7DXX David <va7dxx@...>Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>To: <hamlogger@groups.io>Sent: 07/06/2022 17:57:12Subject: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX
On Jun 7, 2022, at 18:19, G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:Hello David,I have L32 on a PC and a Lap top, The PC is the master. I copy the complete L32 directory from the PC to the Lap Top. All works ok.73Ian G4GIR----- Original Message -----From: VA7DXX David <va7dxx@...>Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>To: <hamlogger@groups.io>Sent: 07/06/2022 17:57:12Subject: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX
You guys may be fortunate: the .ini files in the Logger32 directory include config settings for things that may vary between computers, such as:
- Fonts
- Disks and folders
- Radio hardware – radios, antennas and peripherals
- Screen size/resolution
- Other stuff I’ve forgotten
… so, although it evidently works for you, it’s not a universal solution to just ‘copy the whole folder across’.
73
Gary ZL2iFB
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2022 1:45 pm
To: Radio Chat Groups <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I do the same thing as Ian - Copy the complete L32 directory to the new computer.
I use this program called bart - https://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/bart/ - which only copies changes to reduce the amount of data.
In full disclosure, I backup from the main PC to a cloud account - then from the cloud back to the second PC (Using BART on both PCs in both directions).
We all know there are two type of computer users.
1 those that backup
2 those that will backup.
Also, if L32 is not already installed on the second PC then it will need to be installed in order to register all the DLL files. Once it is installed, you can delete the entire L32 directory, and copy it from the main to the second one.
73’ Pete,N5KD.
On Jun 7, 2022, at 18:19, G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello David,
I have L32 on a PC and a Lap top, The PC is the master. I copy the complete L32 directory from the PC to the Lap Top. All works ok.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: VA7DXX David <va7dxx@...>
Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 07/06/2022 17:57:12
Subject: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX
I have L32 on a PC and a Lap top, The PC is the master. I copy the complete L32 directory from the PC to the Lap Top. All works ok.I do it this way in my daily business (setup is: "main-PC" and laptop):
I have all my logbook-data in a directory called "log_data" and I just copy _this_ directory completey as on my laptop different logger-settings (other radios etc.) are used which should not be destroyed. For the process I wrote a batchfile which does the job and shuts down my computer after finishing the copy.
Maybe this helps also, David.
73 de Lenz,
DL8RDL
73Ian G4GIR----- Original Message -----From: VA7DXX David <va7dxx@...>Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>To: <hamlogger@groups.io>Sent: 07/06/2022 17:57:12Subject: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX
----- Original Message -----From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>To: <hamlogger@groups.io>Sent: 08/06/2022 07:30:00Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
You guys may be fortunate: the .ini files in the Logger32 directory include config settings for things that may vary between computers, such as:
- Fonts
- Disks and folders
- Radio hardware – radios, antennas and peripherals
- Screen size/resolution
- Other stuff I’ve forgotten
… so, although it evidently works for you, it’s not a universal solution to just ‘copy the whole folder across’.
73
Gary ZL2iFB
From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of n5kd
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2022 1:45 pm
To: Radio Chat Groups <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I do the same thing as Ian - Copy the complete L32 directory to the new computer.
I use this program called bart - https://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/bart/ - which only copies changes to reduce the amount of data.
In full disclosure, I backup from the main PC to a cloud account - then from the cloud back to the second PC (Using BART on both PCs in both directions).
We all know there are two type of computer users.
1 those that backup
2 those that will backup.
Also, if L32 is not already installed on the second PC then it will need to be installed in order to register all the DLL files. Once it is installed, you can delete the entire L32 directory, and copy it from the main to the second one.
73’ Pete,N5KD.
On Jun 7, 2022, at 18:19, G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello David,
I have L32 on a PC and a Lap top, The PC is the master. I copy the complete L32 directory from the PC to the Lap Top. All works ok.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: VA7DXX David <va7dxx@...>
Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 07/06/2022 17:57:12
Subject: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX
Hello Gary,
Hi Ian
Have you tried the process?
Yes I have, since you ask. Not for a few months though.
1. Fonts. Both PC and Lap top on Windows 10, surely not a problem?
It was for me because I prefer fonts with slashed or dotted zero for logging, so I had installed additional fonts on the main PC that were not on the other. Logger32 warns us and defaults to Arial in that case.
2. Disks and folders. Both PC and Lap top have the same structure.
Fine. Good luck keeping those PCs in step.
3. Radio hardware – radios, antennas and peripherals. Agreed changes would be required.
Yup
4. Screen size/resolution. Doesn't seem to be a problem.
The sizes and screen positions of Logger32 panes are also stored in the .ini files. Provided all the panes you expect to see do actually fit within the screens on both PCs, no problem. However, if one of the screens is too small, panes can be located off-screen i.e. they are apparently open but invisible. It’s not hard to get them back on-screen, just a bit disconcerting and annoying – something that can easily befuddle Logger32 users.
5. Other stuff I’ve forgotten. Happens to me every day! Lol.
Do I come here often?
So, as you say it isn't a universal solution,
We’re agreed on that then!
BUT, it does provide the answer to what David was looking for i.e move L32 to another PC. As we know, installing L32 is easy, setting up the myriad of options is quite another thing.
… which is why we have the User Manual, lots of hints within Logger32, some helpful videos on YouTube, plus this reflector … and now your advice and my cautious responses here too Ian!
I’m pretty sure the User Manual talks about meddling with Logger32’s settings directly in the .ini files, cautiously again (e.g. backup first, before meddling). Cutting-and-pasting key sections from a known-good .ini into a problematic .ini does work, if you’re careful, so that’s one way to find and perhaps fix issues such as missing fonts, different disk/folder locations etc., as well as transferring the more fiddly settings such as colours, alarms/alerts, and logbook columns. However, the preferred approach is to install Logger32 and configure it from scratch through Logger32’s myriad menus and options, guided by the User Manual etc. Trust me, it gets easier with practice.
Cheers
73
Ian G4GIR
73 … and welcome aboard the L32 support team 😊
Gary ZL2iFB
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>
Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 08/06/2022 07:30:00
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
You guys may be fortunate: the .ini files in the Logger32 directory include config settings for things that may vary between computers, such as:
- Fonts
- Disks and folders
- Radio hardware – radios, antennas and peripherals
- Screen size/resolution
- Other stuff I’ve forgotten
… so, although it evidently works for you, it’s not a universal solution to just ‘copy the whole folder across’.
73
Gary ZL2iFB
From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of n5kd
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2022 1:45 pm
To: Radio Chat Groups <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I do the same thing as Ian - Copy the complete L32 directory to the new computer.
I use this program called bart - https://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/bart/ - which only copies changes to reduce the amount of data.
In full disclosure, I backup from the main PC to a cloud account - then from the cloud back to the second PC (Using BART on both PCs in both directions).
We all know there are two type of computer users.
1 those that backup
2 those that will backup.
Also, if L32 is not already installed on the second PC then it will need to be installed in order to register all the DLL files. Once it is installed, you can delete the entire L32 directory, and copy it from the main to the second one.
73’ Pete,N5KD.
On Jun 7, 2022, at 18:19, G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:
Hello David,
I have L32 on a PC and a Lap top, The PC is the master. I copy the complete L32 directory from the PC to the Lap Top. All works ok.
73
Ian G4GIR
----- Original Message -----
From: VA7DXX David <va7dxx@...>
Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
To: <hamlogger@groups.io>
Sent: 07/06/2022 17:57:12
Subject: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PC
I need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX
On Jun 8, 2022, at 21:22, Gary Hinson <Gary@...> wrote:Hello Gary,Hi IanHave you tried the process?Yes I have, since you ask. Not for a few months though.1. Fonts. Both PC and Lap top on Windows 10, surely not a problem?It was for me because I prefer fonts with slashed or dotted zero for logging, so I had installed additional fonts on the main PC that were not on the other. Logger32 warns us and defaults to Arial in that case.2. Disks and folders. Both PC and Lap top have the same structure.Fine. Good luck keeping those PCs in step.3. Radio hardware – radios, antennas and peripherals. Agreed changes would be required.Yup4. Screen size/resolution. Doesn't seem to be a problem.The sizes and screen positions of Logger32 panes are also stored in the .ini files. Provided all the panes you expect to see do actually fit within the screens on both PCs, no problem. However, if one of the screens is too small, panes can be located off-screen i.e. they are apparently open but invisible. It’s not hard to get them back on-screen, just a bit disconcerting and annoying – something that can easily befuddle Logger32 users.5. Other stuff I’ve forgotten. Happens to me every day! Lol.Do I come here often?So, as you say it isn't a universal solution,We’re agreed on that then!BUT, it does provide the answer to what David was looking for i.e move L32 to another PC. As we know, installing L32 is easy, setting up the myriad of options is quite another thing.… which is why we have the User Manual, lots of hints within Logger32, some helpful videos on YouTube, plus this reflector … and now your advice and my cautious responses here too Ian!I’m pretty sure the User Manual talks about meddling with Logger32’s settings directly in the .ini files, cautiously again (e.g. backup first, before meddling). Cutting-and-pasting key sections from a known-good .ini into a problematic .ini does work, if you’re careful, so that’s one way to find and perhaps fix issues such as missing fonts, different disk/folder locations etc., as well as transferring the more fiddly settings such as colours, alarms/alerts, and logbook columns. However, the preferred approach is to install Logger32 and configure it from scratch through Logger32’s myriad menus and options, guided by the User Manual etc. Trust me, it gets easier with practice.Cheers73Ian G4GIR73 … and welcome aboard the L32 support team 😊Gary ZL2iFB----- Original Message -----From: Gary Hinson <Gary@...>Reply-To: <hamlogger@groups.io>To: <hamlogger@groups.io>Sent: 08/06/2022 07:30:00Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PCYou guys may be fortunate: the .ini files in the Logger32 directory include config settings for things that may vary between computers, such as:
- Fonts
- Disks and folders
- Radio hardware – radios, antennas and peripherals
- Screen size/resolution
- Other stuff I’ve forgotten
… so, although it evidently works for you, it’s not a universal solution to just ‘copy the whole folder across’.73Gary ZL2iFBFrom: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of n5kd
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2022 1:45 pm
To: Radio Chat Groups <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PCI do the same thing as Ian - Copy the complete L32 directory to the new computer.I use this program called bart - https://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/bart/ - which only copies changes to reduce the amount of data.In full disclosure, I backup from the main PC to a cloud account - then from the cloud back to the second PC (Using BART on both PCs in both directions).We all know there are two type of computer users.1 those that backup2 those that will backup.Also, if L32 is not already installed on the second PC then it will need to be installed in order to register all the DLL files. Once it is installed, you can delete the entire L32 directory, and copy it from the main to the second one.73’ Pete,N5KD.
Hello David,I have L32 on a PC and a Lap top, The PC is the master. I copy the complete L32 directory from the PC to the Lap Top. All works ok.73Ian G4GIR----- Original Message -----Sent: 07/06/2022 17:57:12Subject: [hamlogger] Moving Logger 32 to a new PCI need some guidance please:
I have set up Logger 32 how I like it on my main PC but now need to move it to another PC. Is there an easy way to do this without having to go through all of the set up again?
With thanks
David VA7DXX