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Re: Windows Defender ...

Mike
 

Bob, once again, a brilliant solution. J

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io [mailto:hamlogger@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:01 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

No Ken, not paranoia, just a fact of life in the on-line era. Just Google 'Harley Davidson' a couple of times, or stamp collecting, or something else that you have absolutely no interest in. You'll immediately notice targeted marketing ads, and spam mail, appearing on your screen that relate directly to what you searched for. I logged on to my 4th XYLs PC, and searched for 'Chippendales' 20 times, and logged off. That kept her out of my face for weeks. SeventyThree(s).

On May 17, 2020 at 4:32 PM Ken McVie <kenmc@...> wrote:

This sounds like USA paranoia!!!!

 

73

KeN ZL4NR

On 18 May 2020 at 06:55 Jim SIMON <jhsimon@...> wrote:

One caveat regarding Avast, from PCMag: “Avast is harvesting users' browser histories on the pretext that the data has been 'de-identified,' thus protecting your privacy. But the data, which is being sold to third parties, can be linked back to people's real identities, exposing every click and search they've made.”

 

And while we are on the subject, as for Kasperksky, given it’s ownership, I would be cautious with that one as well. Jmho.

 

73,

Jim  W1YY

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

I concur. AGV Free disables Windows Defender. I have used it for many years and never had problems with it, or it with Logger32.

 

 


 


 


 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Windows Defender ...

Mike
 

Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they’re NOT out to get you.

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io [mailto:hamlogger@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken McVie
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:32 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io; Jim SIMON
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

This sounds like USA paranoia!!!!

 

73

KeN ZL4NR

On 18 May 2020 at 06:55 Jim SIMON <jhsimon@...> wrote:

One caveat regarding Avast, from PCMag: “Avast is harvesting users' browser histories on the pretext that the data has been 'de-identified,' thus protecting your privacy. But the data, which is being sold to third parties, can be linked back to people's real identities, exposing every click and search they've made.”

 

And while we are on the subject, as for Kasperksky, given it’s ownership, I would be cautious with that one as well. Jmho.

 

73,

Jim  W1YY

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

I concur. AGV Free disables Windows Defender. I have used it for many years and never had problems with it, or it with Logger32.

 

 


 


 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Logger32 wrong statistic

Ian Morrison
 

Just wondering, did you change your logbook?

 

Ian

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Andreas Paulick
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:52 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Logger32 wrong statistic

 

Hi Bob,

I did it. But it doesn't solve the problem. 

 

73 Paul 

 

Bob <k4cy@...> schrieb am So., 17. Mai 2020, 22:50:

Click SETUP | UPDATES | COUNTRY DATABASE EXCEPTIONS FROM CLUB LOG | LOOK FOR UPDATES NOW. If that does not solve the problem, Click TOOLS | DATABASE MAINTENANCE | RECALCULATE STATISTICS (and wait for it to finish). SeventyThree(s).

On May 17, 2020 at 4:42 PM Andreas Paulick <andreas.paulick@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong DXCC challenge points).

The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.

Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points). The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.

Recalculate Statistic doesn't help. 

The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.

 

What could it be?

 

I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.

 

73,

 

Paul, DL5CW


 

 


Re: Windows Defender ...

Ian Morrison
 

Just add the logger23 directory in Exclusions under Virus and Threat Protection. I did that when the first ‘false positive’ arrived a couple of weeks ago and have not problems since. All automatics on automatic.

 

73, ve3ep

Ian

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Duncan Fisken
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 1:19 PM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

Permanently disabling Windows Defender is possible but not for the faint-hearted. It involves editing the Windows registry and you should have a complete backup of everything in case it goes wrong.

 

There is another way by using Group Policy Editor... do a search for gpedit.exe and see if you have it. I don’t and will need to install it... 

df

 



On May 17, 2020, at 17:42, "kenfilmer@..." <kenfilmer@...> wrote:



 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> on behalf of Steve VE3RX <ve3cwj@...>
Sent: 17 May 2020 15:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

Instead of giving up on Windows, would it not be easier to give up on Defender and load some other third party free anti-virus? I assume this is possible on W10, as I'm sticking with Win7 for now....
If one takes the L32 .EXE file and test it on the site "virustotal.com", you will see which AV pass the .EXE as OK and, which AV flags it. Pick an AV from there. Most free AV products like AVG, AVAST, etc. work just fine. The is no one AV product that is 100% protection anyway, not even the commercial ones. Most AV products have false positives, and most of those vendors respond to them rather well. With Defender, you are dealing with MS bureaucracy...

73
Steve.

 


Re: Logger32 wrong statistic

Andreas Paulick
 

Hi Mike VP8NO and others,

OMG - it was the reason. The box in the Worked/Confirmed Windows "Show DXCC Info for 2020 only" was marked.
I don't know, when I did it.

The problem is solved now.

Thank you all!

73!

Paul, DL5CW

Am So., 17. Mai 2020 um 23:02 Uhr schrieb Bob <k4cy@...>:

That was next on my list :)

> On May 17, 2020 at 4:55 PM "Michael Harris via groups.io" <mike.harris=horizon.co.fk@groups.io> wrote:
>
>
> Worked/confirmed window set to 2020 instead of ALL. Top left corner?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 17/05/2020 17:52, Andreas Paulick wrote:
> > Hi Bob,
> > I did it. But it doesn't solve the problem.
> >
> > 73 Paul
> >
> > Bob <k4cy@... <mailto:k4cy@...>> schrieb am So., 17. Mai
> > 2020, 22:50:
> >
> >     __
> >     Click SETUP | UPDATES | COUNTRY DATABASE EXCEPTIONS FROM CLUB LOG |
> >     LOOK FOR UPDATES NOW. If that does not solve the problem, Click
> >     TOOLS | DATABASE MAINTENANCE | RECALCULATE STATISTICS (and wait for
> >     it to finish). SeventyThree(s).
> >>     On May 17, 2020 at 4:42 PM Andreas Paulick
> >>     <andreas.paulick@... <mailto:andreas.paulick@...>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hello,
> >>
> >>     suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong
> >>     DXCC challenge points).
> >>     The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster
> >>     spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.
> >>     Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points).
> >>     The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.
> >>     Recalculate Statistic doesn't help.
> >>     The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.
> >>
> >>     What could it be?
> >>
> >>     I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.
> >>
> >>     73,
> >>
> >>     Paul, DL5CW
>
>
>




Re: Logger32 wrong statistic

Bob
 

That was next on my list :)

On May 17, 2020 at 4:55 PM "Michael Harris via groups.io" <mike.harris=horizon.co.fk@groups.io> wrote:


Worked/confirmed window set to 2020 instead of ALL. Top left corner?

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 17/05/2020 17:52, Andreas Paulick wrote:
Hi Bob,
I did it. But it doesn't solve the problem.

73 Paul

Bob <k4cy@... <mailto:k4cy@...>> schrieb am So., 17. Mai
2020, 22:50:

__
Click SETUP | UPDATES | COUNTRY DATABASE EXCEPTIONS FROM CLUB LOG |
LOOK FOR UPDATES NOW. If that does not solve the problem, Click
TOOLS | DATABASE MAINTENANCE | RECALCULATE STATISTICS (and wait for
it to finish). SeventyThree(s).
On May 17, 2020 at 4:42 PM Andreas Paulick
<andreas.paulick@... <mailto:andreas.paulick@...>> wrote:

Hello,

suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong
DXCC challenge points).
The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster
spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.
Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points).
The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.
Recalculate Statistic doesn't help.
The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.

What could it be?

I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.

73,

Paul, DL5CW


Re: Windows Defender ...

Bob
 

No Ken, not paranoia, just a fact of life in the on-line era. Just Google 'Harley Davidson' a couple of times, or stamp collecting, or something else that you have absolutely no interest in. You'll immediately notice targeted marketing ads, and spam mail, appearing on your screen that relate directly to what you searched for. I logged on to my 4th XYLs PC, and searched for 'Chippendales' 20 times, and logged off. That kept her out of my face for weeks. SeventyThree(s).

On May 17, 2020 at 4:32 PM Ken McVie <kenmc@...> wrote:

This sounds like USA paranoia!!!!


73

KeN ZL4NR

On 18 May 2020 at 06:55 Jim SIMON <jhsimon@...> wrote:

One caveat regarding Avast, from PCMag: “Avast is harvesting users' browser histories on the pretext that the data has been 'de-identified,' thus protecting your privacy. But the data, which is being sold to third parties, can be linked back to people's real identities, exposing every click and search they've made.”

 

And while we are on the subject, as for Kasperksky, given it’s ownership, I would be cautious with that one as well. Jmho.

 

73,

Jim  W1YY

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

I concur. AGV Free disables Windows Defender. I have used it for many years and never had problems with it, or it with Logger32.

 



 


 


 


Re: Logger32 wrong statistic

Gary Hinson
 

Hi Paul.

 

Have you accidentally turned on annual statistics rather than all time?  Does the top left corner of your worked/confirmed window say “2020”, like this:

 

 

If so, that window and the DXcluster spot highlighting only takes account of countries you have worked during this calendar year.  This is very useful for those of us entering annual marathon DX challenges.

 

Simply click the top left corner cell again to change it back to “ALL”, like this:

 

 

Similarly, in your DXCC statistics report, there is a selector box at the bottom that allows you to select just the current year or all time, and you can also choose particular callsigns etc.

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andreas Paulick
Sent: 18 May 2020 08:42
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: [hamlogger] Logger32 wrong statistic

 

Hello,

 

suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong DXCC challenge points).

The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.

Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points). The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.

Recalculate Statistic doesn't help. 

The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.

 

What could it be?

 

I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.

 

73,

 

Paul, DL5CW


Re: Logger32 wrong statistic

Michael Harris
 

Worked/confirmed window set to 2020 instead of ALL. Top left corner?

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 17/05/2020 17:52, Andreas Paulick wrote:
Hi Bob,
I did it. But it doesn't solve the problem.
73 Paul
Bob <k4cy@... <mailto:k4cy@...>> schrieb am So., 17. Mai 2020, 22:50:
__
Click SETUP | UPDATES | COUNTRY DATABASE EXCEPTIONS FROM CLUB LOG |
LOOK FOR UPDATES NOW. If that does not solve the problem, Click
TOOLS | DATABASE MAINTENANCE | RECALCULATE STATISTICS (and wait for
it to finish). SeventyThree(s).
On May 17, 2020 at 4:42 PM Andreas Paulick
<andreas.paulick@... <mailto:andreas.paulick@...>> wrote:

Hello,

suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong
DXCC challenge points).
The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster
spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.
Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points).
The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.
Recalculate Statistic doesn't help.
The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.

What could it be?

I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.

73,

Paul, DL5CW


Re: Logger32 wrong statistic

Andreas Paulick
 

Hi Bob,
I did it. But it doesn't solve the problem. 

73 Paul 

Bob <k4cy@...> schrieb am So., 17. Mai 2020, 22:50:

Click SETUP | UPDATES | COUNTRY DATABASE EXCEPTIONS FROM CLUB LOG | LOOK FOR UPDATES NOW. If that does not solve the problem, Click TOOLS | DATABASE MAINTENANCE | RECALCULATE STATISTICS (and wait for it to finish). SeventyThree(s).
On May 17, 2020 at 4:42 PM Andreas Paulick <andreas.paulick@...> wrote:

Hello,

suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong DXCC challenge points).
The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.
Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points). The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.
Recalculate Statistic doesn't help. 
The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.

What could it be?

I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.

73,

Paul, DL5CW

 


Re: Logger32 wrong statistic

Bob
 

Click SETUP | UPDATES | COUNTRY DATABASE EXCEPTIONS FROM CLUB LOG | LOOK FOR UPDATES NOW. If that does not solve the problem, Click TOOLS | DATABASE MAINTENANCE | RECALCULATE STATISTICS (and wait for it to finish). SeventyThree(s).

On May 17, 2020 at 4:42 PM Andreas Paulick <andreas.paulick@...> wrote:

Hello,

suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong DXCC challenge points).
The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.
Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points). The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.
Recalculate Statistic doesn't help. 
The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.

What could it be?

I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.

73,

Paul, DL5CW

 


Logger32 wrong statistic

Andreas Paulick
 

Hello,

suddenly I have a wrong statistic (wkd/cfm entities at all, wrong DXCC challenge points).
The DX spot window is full of colours now. Nearly every cluster spot is a new entitie or a new challenge point.
Was almost blank last time (with more than 2600 Challenge points). The Worked/Confirmed window is also wrong.
Recalculate Statistic doesn't help. 
The problem is: I don't change anything. From one moment to another.

What could it be?

I'm using Windows 8 since a long time.

73,

Paul, DL5CW


Re: Windows Defender ...

Ken McVie <kenmc@...>
 

This sounds like USA paranoia!!!!


73

KeN ZL4NR

On 18 May 2020 at 06:55 Jim SIMON <jhsimon@...> wrote:

One caveat regarding Avast, from PCMag: “Avast is harvesting users' browser histories on the pretext that the data has been 'de-identified,' thus protecting your privacy. But the data, which is being sold to third parties, can be linked back to people's real identities, exposing every click and search they've made.”

 

And while we are on the subject, as for Kasperksky, given it’s ownership, I would be cautious with that one as well. Jmho.

 

73,

Jim  W1YY

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

I concur. AGV Free disables Windows Defender. I have used it for many years and never had problems with it, or it with Logger32.

 



 


 


Re: Windows Defender ...

Ken McVie <kenmc@...>
 

i'm not sure this is a correct statement as my security settings say that Defender is turned OFF, & my [ purchased] firewall/antivirus is operational. I have no problem with W10 updates, or L32, or anything else either.


73

Ken ZL4NR

On 18 May 2020 at 05:19 Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...> wrote:

Permanently disabling Windows Defender is possible but not for the faint-hearted. It involves editing the Windows registry and you should have a complete backup of everything in case it goes wrong.

There is another way by using Group Policy Editor... do a search for gpedit.exe and see if you have it. I don’t and will need to install it... 

df


On May 17, 2020, at 17:42, "kenfilmer@..." <kenfilmer@...> wrote:


 


From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> on behalf of Steve VE3RX <ve3cwj@...>
Sent: 17 May 2020 15:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...
 
Instead of giving up on Windows, would it not be easier to give up on Defender and load some other third party free anti-virus? I assume this is possible on W10, as I'm sticking with Win7 for now....
If one takes the L32 .EXE file and test it on the site "virustotal.com", you will see which AV pass the .EXE as OK and, which AV flags it. Pick an AV from there. Most free AV products like AVG, AVAST, etc. work just fine. The is no one AV product that is 100% protection anyway, not even the commercial ones. Most AV products have false positives, and most of those vendors respond to them rather well. With Defender, you are dealing with MS bureaucracy...

73
Steve.


 


 


Re: Windows Defender ...

Ken McVie <kenmc@...>
 

Why not just ditch 'Defender' & use another anti virus/firewall program?? I have no problems with my set up.


73

Ken ZL4NR

On 17 May 2020 at 22:45 "kenfilmer@..." <kenfilmer@...> wrote:

The saga continues.

 

Windows updated. I disabled auto updates, Windows still updated.

 

Reloaded L32 but will not load. I’ve done all the usual things, added to exclusions, done the command prompt, still not able to load L32. Windows have changed the wording on the virus threat and there is no longer an ‘allow’ option for deleted apps.

 

I sent a response to MS positives/negatives but got a reply that was completely meaningless. Some automated rubbish.

 

I could restore to a previous version but that will not stop Windows updating again.

 

As you can see its a hopeless situation trying to use L32.

 

Ken

G3XPO

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephen Tompsett
Sent: 16 May 2020 16:19
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

Please submit any file producing a false positive virus/malware warning to the antivirus/malware provider, it should help to prevent the problem in the future for yourself and for others.

For Microsoft see: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/windows-defender-antivirus/antivirus-false-positives-negatives

On 16/05/2020 15:58, Jim Altman wrote:

Merely adding it to Exclusions will not restore the one it quarantined, you have to go to quarantined items and restore to do that.   Or reinstall.

 

 

 

Jim Altman

jaltman636@...

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of kenfilmer@...
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:12 AM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

Thanks Bob, that’s very helpful. I never knew what the little upside down arrow was for.

 

I have followed the messages in the group and I have done that in Exclusions but I wondered if ‘whitelisting’ needed me to do anything else. I also added to exclusions the update file, but that didn’t seem to help much.

 

L32 is fine now, V3.50.0 but I’m apprehensive about updating it.  

 

Now lets see what MS can come up with next to spoil my enjoyment!

 

Tks again stay safe over there.

 

73

 

Ken

G3XPO

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bob
Sent: 16 May 2020 12:44
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

On the Windows task bar at the bottom of the screen, look at the right hand side. See a symbol like an upside down V. Click it, you will see something like this

 

 

Im my case the icon I'm interested in is the shield (mine is white with a green check mark) Click in to open the Windows Security center. Lots of options. Click the first one Virus & threat protection. Now scroll down to Virus & threat protection settings. Click on Manage settings. Now scroll down to Exclusions. Click on Add or Remove exclusions, Now click on Add an exclusion. Click on Folder and navigate you way to the \Logger32 folder. All done, SeventyThree(s).

On May 16, 2020 at 4:15 AM "kenfilmer@..." <kenfilmer@...> wrote:

Yes, it happened again! That's 3 times in a week I've lost L32.

MS updated my PC to the latest version of Windows overnight. In the morning - you guessed it - No L32. I got a window saying preparing to install, but this looked unlikely to do so it in my lifetime, so I cancelled it. I remember a similar thing happened some weeks ago when many people complained about a disastrous Windows upgrade losing their apps.

So I went back to a previous version of Windows10 and I have L32 again. Temporarily no doubt thanks to MS.

If I go to Virus Protection-Threat History- Quarantined Threats- Trojan Win32/Occamy/C- Restore it says W32 has been quarantined and will be periodically removed - which is something to look forwards to!

I have another logging programme on this PC which has been unaffected through this traumatic period. Thought, is my PC at fault? Am I alone in getting these problems?

Bob, if you get an idle moment please could you expand on how to 'whitelist' Logger32?

I need the detail in baby steps due to my limited computer skills!

73

Ken
G3XPO


 

 

-- 
Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB)
Tel: 01788 578940
Mob: 07956 855816

 

 


 


 


Re: Windows Defender ...

Jim SIMON
 

One caveat regarding Avast, from PCMag: “Avast is harvesting users' browser histories on the pretext that the data has been 'de-identified,' thus protecting your privacy. But the data, which is being sold to third parties, can be linked back to people's real identities, exposing every click and search they've made.”

 

And while we are on the subject, as for Kasperksky, given it’s ownership, I would be cautious with that one as well. Jmho.

 

73,

Jim  W1YY

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

I concur. AGV Free disables Windows Defender. I have used it for many years and never had problems with it, or it with Logger32.


Re: Windows Defender ...

Nick
 

I concur. AGV Free disables Windows Defender. I have used it for many years and never had problems with it, or it with Logger32.


Re: Windows Defender ...

Phill Morris (G6EES)
 

I use McAfee and it automatically disables Defender. I have never had a problem with L32 being disabled or deleted (touch wood!)

Those that are struggling with Microsoft removing Logger32 should seriously consider installing an alternative protection software and drop Defender quickly.

If you dont want to pay for virus protection, then AVG always comes out tops in reviews, although you sometimes get popup's trying to encourage you (unnecessarily) to buy the paid version. Bitdefender is another one that gets good recommendations

Google "best free anti virus software"

You should never ever have two virus protection applications running at the same time as one can affect the other, making both less effective 

Phill G6EES




-------- Original message --------
From: Peter Wollenberg <peterwollenberg@...>
Date: 17/05/2020 18:48 (GMT+00:00)
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

I remember reading somewhere that installing eg AVG or other anti virus will de-activate Defender by default until the other anti virus is uninstalled again.

73
Peter
VA3DXA

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:19 PM Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...> wrote:
Permanently disabling Windows Defender is possible but not for the faint-hearted. It involves editing the Windows registry and you should have a complete backup of everything in case it goes wrong.

There is another way by using Group Policy Editor... do a search for gpedit.exe and see if you have it. I don’t and will need to install it... 

df


On May 17, 2020, at 17:42, "kenfilmer@..." <kenfilmer@...> wrote:





From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> on behalf of Steve VE3RX <ve3cwj@...>
Sent: 17 May 2020 15:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...
 
Instead of giving up on Windows, would it not be easier to give up on Defender and load some other third party free anti-virus? I assume this is possible on W10, as I'm sticking with Win7 for now....
If one takes the L32 .EXE file and test it on the site "virustotal.com", you will see which AV pass the .EXE as OK and, which AV flags it. Pick an AV from there. Most free AV products like AVG, AVAST, etc. work just fine. The is no one AV product that is 100% protection anyway, not even the commercial ones. Most AV products have false positives, and most of those vendors respond to them rather well. With Defender, you are dealing with MS bureaucracy...

73
Steve.


Re: Windows Defender ...

David Leckie
 

I think you are correct.

 

I am running Kasperski and Windows Defender has been de-activated and not by me.

Note that so far I have never had any issues with Kasperski and Logger32

 

73

Dave

GM4NFI

 

From: hamlogger@groups.io [mailto:hamlogger@groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Wollenberg
Sent: 17 May 2020 18:48
To: hamlogger@groups.io
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

I remember reading somewhere that installing eg AVG or other anti virus will de-activate Defender by default until the other anti virus is uninstalled again.

 

73

Peter

VA3DXA

 

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:19 PM Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...> wrote:

Permanently disabling Windows Defender is possible but not for the faint-hearted. It involves editing the Windows registry and you should have a complete backup of everything in case it goes wrong.

 

There is another way by using Group Policy Editor... do a search for gpedit.exe and see if you have it. I don’t and will need to install it... 

df

 



On May 17, 2020, at 17:42, "kenfilmer@..." <kenfilmer@...> wrote:



 

 


From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> on behalf of Steve VE3RX <ve3cwj@...>
Sent: 17 May 2020 15:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...

 

Instead of giving up on Windows, would it not be easier to give up on Defender and load some other third party free anti-virus? I assume this is possible on W10, as I'm sticking with Win7 for now....
If one takes the L32 .EXE file and test it on the site "virustotal.com", you will see which AV pass the .EXE as OK and, which AV flags it. Pick an AV from there. Most free AV products like AVG, AVAST, etc. work just fine. The is no one AV product that is 100% protection anyway, not even the commercial ones. Most AV products have false positives, and most of those vendors respond to them rather well. With Defender, you are dealing with MS bureaucracy...

73
Steve.


Re: Windows Defender ...

Peter Wollenberg
 

I remember reading somewhere that installing eg AVG or other anti virus will de-activate Defender by default until the other anti virus is uninstalled again.

73
Peter
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On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:19 PM Duncan Fisken <duncan.fisken@...> wrote:
Permanently disabling Windows Defender is possible but not for the faint-hearted. It involves editing the Windows registry and you should have a complete backup of everything in case it goes wrong.

There is another way by using Group Policy Editor... do a search for gpedit.exe and see if you have it. I don’t and will need to install it... 

df


On May 17, 2020, at 17:42, "kenfilmer@..." <kenfilmer@...> wrote:





From: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io> on behalf of Steve VE3RX <ve3cwj@...>
Sent: 17 May 2020 15:45
To: hamlogger@groups.io <hamlogger@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [hamlogger] Windows Defender ...
 
Instead of giving up on Windows, would it not be easier to give up on Defender and load some other third party free anti-virus? I assume this is possible on W10, as I'm sticking with Win7 for now....
If one takes the L32 .EXE file and test it on the site "virustotal.com", you will see which AV pass the .EXE as OK and, which AV flags it. Pick an AV from there. Most free AV products like AVG, AVAST, etc. work just fine. The is no one AV product that is 100% protection anyway, not even the commercial ones. Most AV products have false positives, and most of those vendors respond to them rather well. With Defender, you are dealing with MS bureaucracy...

73
Steve.